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Oct 28, 2011 9:03 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.

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Just 22 minutes before it airs in Japan!~
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Oct 28, 2011 9:56 AM

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FUCK YES I WAITED FOR THIS EPISODE FOR 4 YEARS AND IT DID NOT DISAPPOINT!! This has been one of the best episodes of Shana I've ever seen out of all seasons! The music, the animation, everything was perfect!
They successfully adapted the last chapter of novel 16 to its full glory imo...JC Staff I am proud.
 
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Oct 28, 2011 12:14 PM

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lol, him taking care of them so peacefully as they try to kill him. And then him breaking margery to keep her out of the fight. I would of rather had him do the entire fight barehanded without any of his hougyoku just to show how overkill his powers are.
 
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Oct 28, 2011 1:02 PM

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Yuuji rocks!
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Oct 28, 2011 1:03 PM

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*Damn my English Sucks

i dint say subs, what i mean is Raw. I dint notice the difference of the two until now.


Anyway still waiting for the Subs its been 24 hours since i watched the raw version.
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Oct 28, 2011 2:52 PM

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Previous episodes was really a prologue to the start of the action this season, so I'm expecting this episode to set the framework for how the season goes.


Well after watching, I expected a decent episode, instead I got a radical personality change. So far it's not really doing standing out from any other show, it's just cliche I'm doing this to save you bullshit. The only "good" things so far would be the opening/ending theme, was hoping for good visuals too, but the animation seems to blow and the art seems a little off.

2/5
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Oct 28, 2011 3:24 PM

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That blew the other 3 episodes away!!
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Great episode Yuuji took Shana easily knock her out.
He sure could easily killed them all but he decide not to do it, that's prove him to be the real Sakai Yuuji
He is not really evil, don't know how the novel is since I haven't read it but probably good.
I guess in the preview that 3 loyal bodyguard are the one that going defend it.

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Oct 28, 2011 6:32 PM

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This episode is so exciting!
But I'm a bit confused on Yuuji's rational o_o
 
Oct 28, 2011 10:10 PM

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Awesome episode! Blew away my expectations beyond the roof! Great start to a brand new season of shakugan no shana! Im dieing to know the truth behind Yujii's rational xD :D
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Oct 29, 2011 12:57 AM

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So many different emotions in this one. Man it was more exciting than I read about!
I've waited so long for this episode of awesomeness!
 
Oct 29, 2011 1:06 AM

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I can't w8 for the sub to know what exactly Yuji talked to Margari and the others.... Seems everyone depressed after the battle....
 
Oct 29, 2011 10:09 AM
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I! WANT! SUBS! I! WANT! SUBS! >____>
Come OONNNNN, it's been a whole day, it should've been released HOURS ago!! >___< Gooosshhhh, I SO don't wanna miss this epic battle!!
 
Oct 29, 2011 10:56 AM

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fidelbuds1 said:
Watched the subs, This episode is awesome!


where did you find subs?
 
Oct 29, 2011 1:29 PM

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Appel_stroop said:
fidelbuds1 said:
Watched the subs, This episode is awesome!


where did you find subs?


Obvious troll is obvious.
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Oct 29, 2011 1:44 PM

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I dont think the subs are out yet. But if you read the english novel translation, you could imagine what they where saying. I did understand most of it (From my memory of Novel 16 + Learning japanese) Although I think it won't take that long before english subs are out.
 
Oct 29, 2011 2:29 PM

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I'm kind of surprised and annoyed that it isn't subbed yet while shows like Working'!! are subbed already despite airing 22 hours later and having a smaller fanbase.
Although I really like Working'!! it's still strange in my opinion.
 
Oct 29, 2011 4:58 PM

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Wat the Yuji is so freaking cool btw sub is already out
What gonna happen to shana next lol?
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Oct 29, 2011 5:19 PM

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Shih said:
This episode is so exciting!
But I'm a bit confused on Yuuji's rational o_o

Yuuji is cool, but I still can't handle that hair. He looks a old man. @@
Far I know he has 2 personalities now, his own self, and someone who somewhat is the ruler of the Guze no Tomogara. At least that was what I understood from the previous episodes.

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Just 22 minutes before it airs in Japan!~

I know now that you have enthusiasm, but please there's no point in create a thread before the episode actually airs, the rules Anime/Manga Discussion Rules are here. That also apply for people that keep asking for subs, and spam the thread like that. I don't actually see problem in it, but about 10 posts in there, are just asking when the subs is out, and not discussing about the episode itself.
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Oct 29, 2011 5:20 PM

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I laughed.

This episode rose my expectations for the next episodes.
 
Oct 29, 2011 5:26 PM

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Surprisingly, this episode was pretty good. Shana should've been solid like this since day 1.

4/5
 
Oct 29, 2011 5:35 PM

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Okay so episode 4 is finally what I wanted to see S+ xD after 3 episodes of mediocre we get a great episode now xD
 
Oct 29, 2011 5:52 PM

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It was a cool ep. But Yuuji using his hair to fight..uhhhh.
 
Oct 29, 2011 5:55 PM

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So confused yet so O_O.
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Oct 29, 2011 6:11 PM

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About time we got some action. Yuji is finally a man and shana is annoying as hell. He should had just destroyed them all. I hope Yuji side win but i just doubt it i bet it be like most animes.
 
Oct 29, 2011 6:25 PM

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wawawaawawawa...... The battle was very intense, Margery goes insane, and Yuuji has become a loveable hunk. Shana getting kidnapped is pretty cool too.

I can feel happy that i enjoy this show now that it lives up to my expectations. SO PUMPED!
 
Oct 29, 2011 6:33 PM

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hmmm.. i love this ep!!! so much action!!! :D
but it's stil lkinda funny for yuji to use hair to fight :P
 
Oct 29, 2011 6:46 PM

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bonifide said:
About time we got some action. Yuji is finally a man and shana is annoying as hell. He should had just destroyed them all. I hope Yuji side win but i just doubt it i bet it be like most animes.


As it stands right now, I don't exactly see what's wrong with Yujis' vision of the world, so maybe it wouldn't be so farfetched to see Bal Masque succeed. However, with the "Snake of the Festival" seemingly using Yuji as a vessel, it could ultimately be a conflict of interest, sort of an inner battle between what Yuji wants and what the S.o.t.F. wants.

What I was most surprised by, honestly, was that Margery went completely nuts. To me, she's the strongest-willed character, and it seemed as though, despite her constant drinking to feel as great as she could, nothing could bring her down. So it's really impressive that, all of a sudden, someone could use Margerys' personal ambitions against her in such an effective way. 0_o

I've been loving this season so far; I liked season 1, though season 2 felt somewhat disjointed and rushed at times. Glad that they took the time to really flesh this final season out so far.
 
Oct 29, 2011 6:47 PM
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Im so excited to watch this... but i just have this feeling

 
Oct 29, 2011 6:54 PM

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AMAZING EPISODE!!!

Yuuji literally played with Shana and the rest, they had NO CHANCE of winning!

But still.....FUCK YOU, Yuuji, how dare you want to "protect" Shana and try to destroy her!

....and now Shana is under the EVIL hands of Yuuji....


Also, GO FUCKING DIE Yoshida.....god, you're so horribly annoying....NOBODY LIKES YOU!!!!
 
Oct 29, 2011 7:04 PM

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Good ep, wish the first 3 were like this z.z
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Oct 29, 2011 7:08 PM

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AMAZING EPISODE!!!

Yuuji literally played with Shana and the rest, they had NO CHANCE of winning!

But still.....FUCK YOU, Yuuji, how dare you want to "protect" Shana and try to destroy her!

....and now Shana is under the EVIL hands of Yuuji....


Also, GO FUCKING DIE Yoshida.....god, you're so horribly annoying....NOBODY LIKES YOU!!!!


So true and yet so f***ed for her. No one like Yoshida because she so whiny. Maybe if she would actually DO something once in a while she wouldn't be so hated. Although I have a sense of pity for the bitch. Useless, but wanting to be more than just useless. How about she improvises like Homura Akemi from Madoka?
She doesn't even have a weapon personally but yet makes use of military status weapons! Maybe she could learn a little and say "Hey at least I tried shooting the RPG right?"
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Oct 29, 2011 7:19 PM

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First entertaining episode of the season so far and it was quite pleasing. The art has gotten quite a nice upgrade and it was quite nice seeing something other than a pink fuzetsu.
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Oct 29, 2011 7:23 PM

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Finally, what we all waited.......ended in one episode. It should've gone longer. Oh well, maybe there's more in the next episode.

 
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Can someone explain why Yoshida collapsed to the ground surprised?????? I dont get what was so shocking that Yuji said to her....

And I'm definitely liking this season more than the 2nd one since this is more serious and actually advancing with the story :)
 
Oct 29, 2011 7:34 PM
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OMG ... Been waiting on this since shakugan no shana II my friend Nikoli described this battle to me from the novels and i've been waiting ever since, i had hoped the prelude of this battle had happened in SnS II but it didn't so i was worried it would never happen but then news of SnS Final was revealed and my hope was once again re-ignited. This episode was worth the wait Yuji alongside the Snake of festival as one sent shivers of joy down my spine and the way he took them all like they were nothing the cruelness of basically saying shana over kazumi was excellently done and just as cruel as what i've heard happened in the novel some pieces seem different but brilliant all the same.

Voice actor for Snake of festival is awesom so glad they found someone of particular quality very well done.

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Can someone explain why Yoshida collapsed to the ground surprised?????? I dont get what was so shocking that Yuji said to her....

And I'm definitely liking this season more than the 2nd one since this is more serious and actually advancing with the story :)


Basically he picked shana over Kazumi and was basically like i don't love u XD
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Oct 29, 2011 7:36 PM

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All that chaos and all Yoshida cares about is the stupid love triangle. I hope with Yuuji's obvious answer, this stupid love triangle can go fuck off already along with Yoshida.

Lol at people reserving posts in a thread too. Is keeping your post at the beginning of the thread that important?
 
Oct 29, 2011 7:39 PM

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Yay finally something interesting happens. xD

All three flame hazes try to attack Yuji, and he just shrugs them off. Margery goes completely insane! And Shana gets kidnapped.
 
Oct 29, 2011 7:42 PM

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how fun. concepts behind the Silver are quite interesting.


 
Oct 29, 2011 7:43 PM

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Great ep. I really liked how they ended up the ep by totally crushing Yoshida. Coulda done without that ~2 minutes of hysterical Margery screaming though.

4/5
 
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kira-factor said:
Can someone explain why Yoshida collapsed to the ground surprised?????? I dont get what was so shocking that Yuji said to her....


Its simple, he returns the letters to both Shana and Yoshida, and then comes back and takes Shana away and tells Yoshida to "go home". Yuji said that he didnt want to SAY anything that would hurt her. So returning her letter is like saying that he will not return her feelings.

In other words....bitch got rejected hard
 
Oct 29, 2011 7:50 PM

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All that chaos and all Yoshida cares about is the stupid love triangle. I hope with Yuuji's obvious answer, this stupid love triangle can go fuck off already along with Yoshida.

Yoshida might single handedly be the worst character of any and ALL J.C Staff anime....and that's saying a lot!!!

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In other words....bitch got rejected hard


LOLOLOL!

If this anime wasn't the way it is, I could definitely see the ending to Shana:

 
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ciddypoo said:
Great ep. I really liked how they ended up the ep by totally crushing Yoshida. Coulda done without that ~2 minutes of hysterical Margery screaming though.

4/5


You've got to admit despite margerys cringe worthy screaming it was brilliant how he mentally cracked her by revealing she had been chasing a shadow that technically didn't exist as it was the embodiment of her desires that killed the ppl she wanted to kill after hundreds of years there was tech no officially no silver guze no tomogara just an illusion type thing :P
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You've got to admit despite margerys cringe worthy screaming it was brilliant how he mentally cracked her by revealing she had been chasing a shadow that technically didn't exist as it was the embodiment of her desires that killed the ppl she wanted to kill after hundreds of years there was tech no officially no silver guze no tomogara just an illusion type thing :P

I won't deny that it was interesting spin on the 'identity' of Silver, I was just raggin' on the unnecessarily melodramatic acting.

This new identity of Silver casts a really dark shadow on the Flame Hazes. The whole point of their existence is to combat fallen Crimson Denizens, but if the Silver is allowed to manifest and wreak havoc through a Crimson Lord's avatar, who's to say that the Crimson Lord cannot in turn be corrupted? After all, it's supposed to be a contract, and the Lord would be approving of their Flame Haze's actions --
 
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ciddypoo said:
metal-blaze said:
You've got to admit despite margerys cringe worthy screaming it was brilliant how he mentally cracked her by revealing she had been chasing a shadow that technically didn't exist as it was the embodiment of her desires that killed the ppl she wanted to kill after hundreds of years there was tech no officially no silver guze no tomogara just an illusion type thing :P

I won't deny that it was interesting spin on the 'identity' of Silver, I was just raggin' on the unnecessarily melodramatic acting.

This new identity of Silver casts a really dark shadow on the Flame Hazes. The whole point of their existence is to combat fallen Crimson Denizens, but if the Silver is allowed to manifest and wreak havoc through a Crimson Lord's avatar, who's to say that the Crimson Lord cannot in turn be corrupted? After all, it's supposed to be a contract, and the Lord would be approving of their Flame Haze's actions --


In the case of Margery, her Flame Haze existence is based on revenge. If her will is broken, she will cease to exist. In other words, it was a close call of the end of her existence right there... (not to mention that now, she's completely broken and useless).
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Oct 29, 2011 8:24 PM

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Yuji is a liar; he just wants the superior Yoshida to stay safe; his plans will destroy him and those around him.
 
Oct 29, 2011 8:35 PM

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Im so excited to watch this... but i just have this feeling





Awesome episode, cant wait for the next one.

Glad to see his first useful weapon back.
 
Oct 29, 2011 8:38 PM

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In the case of Margery, her Flame Haze existence is based on revenge. If her will is broken, she will cease to exist. In other words, it was a close call of the end of her existence right there... (not to mention that now, she's completely broken and useless).

What's scary is that according to Yuuji, the Silver is supposed to manifest when humans reach a critical point of their emotions. It's supposed to project the inner emotions or the absolute desires of the person into a material form. I assume that the Silver is a magnification of the user's power.

This could be what Yuuji is talking about when he talks about Flame Hazes burning out. If a Flame Haze's contract is based upon one particular emotion and the Silver is an outburst of extreme power when that emotion reaches a certain level, then Flame Hazes are inevitably doomed to cause their own destruction by fulfilling their innermost desire and thus losing the meaning of their existence according to contract.
 
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OMG!!! well worth the wait this episode was ossom! *-*
Shana and Yuji are eloping :P
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Great ep. I really liked how they ended up the ep by totally crushing Yoshida. Coulda done without that ~2 minutes of hysterical Margery screaming though.

4/5


You've got to admit despite margerys cringe worthy screaming it was brilliant how he mentally cracked her by revealing she had been chasing a shadow that technically didn't exist as it was the embodiment of her desires that killed the ppl she wanted to kill after hundreds of years there was tech no officially no silver guze no tomogara just an illusion type thing :P
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ciddypoo said:
Great ep. I really liked how they ended up the ep by totally crushing Yoshida. Coulda done without that ~2 minutes of hysterical Margery screaming though.

4/5


You've got to admit despite margerys cringe worthy screaming it was brilliant how he mentally cracked her by revealing she had been chasing a shadow that technically didn't exist as it was the embodiment of her desires that killed the ppl she wanted to kill after hundreds of years
there was tech no officially no silver guze no tomogara just an illusion type thing :P



I agree but at the end I sort of felt sorry for yoshida even though at times she can get on my nerves
 
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