| What really pisses me off more so than bad dubs are shows that have a part where the characters speak English with Japanese subtitles. Most of the time when there is a part like this it makes my ears bleed from the Engrish. |
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jrgcool35 said: What really pisses me off more so than bad dubs are shows that have a part where the characters speak English with Japanese subtitles. Most of the time when there is a part like this it makes my ears bleed from the Engrish. You know what pisses me off, when the Japanese actors speak English and then on the dub track the English actors say something completely different as if out of spite. It is odd how so many people like dubs for their fake accents get disturbed by real accents when Japanese people speak English. Is that ironic or hypocrisy? |
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jrgcool35 said: What really pisses me off more so than bad dubs are shows that have a part where the characters speak English with Japanese subtitles. Most of the time when there is a part like this it makes my ears bleed from the Engrish. EFFU YUU WANA SHUUTO SHETO DEN WAI DONUTO YUU HEDO APPU CHU REBANON!?!? |
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| It can be annoying and I might not like that character very much, one example is Niijima from History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi. I actually stopped watching that show after a while because of him. It doesnt really happen a lot though... |
| Bad voice acting can outright ruin an anime for me. Of course what I consider bad someone else may very well not. But I don't think I've seen any show (yet knock on wood) where the original and dub both failed. |
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| I watch 99% of anime subbed. I don't speak the language, so I can't really tell if there is bad voice acting. The only way I'll think Japanese VA is bad is if the voice doesn't fit the character, like a teen character having an 8 year old boy's voice. As for the dubs I watch, I over- examine it, so there will always be times when it is lacking. For example, I saw Welcome to the NHK dubbed. The VA in English was funny as hell, and probably made me enjoy the series more than if it was subbed. However, during emotional scenes, I found the acting to be very lacking, so during those times, I switched the language back.. |
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Remnants- said: I watch 99% of anime subbed. I don't speak the language, so I can't really tell if there is bad voice acting. The only way I'll think Japanese VA is bad is if the voice doesn't fit the character, like a teen character having an 8 year old boy's voice. . Question. If you are claiming ignorance of the language and how it is spoken then how do know what a Japanese teen should sound like when speaking Japanese? |
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Anime_Name said: jrgcool35 said: What really pisses me off more so than bad dubs are shows that have a part where the characters speak English with Japanese subtitles. Most of the time when there is a part like this it makes my ears bleed from the Engrish. You know what pisses me off, when the Japanese actors speak English and then on the dub track the English actors say something completely different as if out of spite. It is odd how so many people like dubs for their fake accents get disturbed by real accents when Japanese people speak English. Is that ironic or hypocrisy? To the 1st part: I think thats mostly the fact that they want to use more "conversational" english because the original thing is usually really stale/proper. I don't really think its out of spite. To the 2nd part: To be honest I don't think its either, but what I was saying is when they have characters from America or England have a totally wonky accent vs putting a bit more effort and getting a few lines to be a bit more natural. Of course their main audience (in Japan) probably don't really care about that. |
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| For the 1st part I wasn't really referring to complete sentences. I had exclamations and catchphrases in mind. Secondly, people always want authentic fake accents in dubs wherever possible like Hellsing, Baccano, and Hetalia but the same people will conveniently forget they want accents and go lol Engrish when shows like Beck, Samurai Champloo, and Detective Conan have undoubtedly Japanese characters speaking English with an authentic as you can get, Japanese accent. |
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Anime_Name said: For the 1st part I wasn't really referring to complete sentences. I had exclamations and catchphrases in mind. Secondly, people always want authentic fake accents in dubs wherever possible like Hellsing, Baccano, and Hetalia but the same people will conveniently forget they want accents and go lol Engrish when shows like Beck, Samurai Champloo, and Detective Conan have undoubtedly Japanese characters speaking English with an authentic as you can get, Japanese accent. I never thought of it like that... That's a really good point. But I have to disagree with the inclusion of Beck in that group. Just because from what I can remember the characters that spoke English in the Japanese were meant to be fluent in english and feel more comfortable speaking it. |
| Voice acting plays a huge part in whether or not I consider an anime good. For example, when a character is screaming, I want to here a full-hearted effort into acting that scream. Not someone just bluntly and dully giving a half-assed shout. Voice acting helps gets you more involved in the anime. |
| Dear goodness English Dubs.. Though some I'd prefer over Japanese, when they're well done such as School Rumble or YuYu Hakusho. |
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rosebrook said: Anime_Name said: For the 1st part I wasn't really referring to complete sentences. I had exclamations and catchphrases in mind. Secondly, people always want authentic fake accents in dubs wherever possible like Hellsing, Baccano, and Hetalia but the same people will conveniently forget they want accents and go lol Engrish when shows like Beck, Samurai Champloo, and Detective Conan have undoubtedly Japanese characters speaking English with an authentic as you can get, Japanese accent. I never thought of it like that... That's a really good point. But I have to disagree with the inclusion of Beck in that group. Just because from what I can remember the characters that spoke English in the Japanese were meant to be fluent in english and feel more comfortable speaking it. Well that is arguable, fluency in a language doesn't mean sounding like a native speaker. The characters in Dying Breed spoke English well. Their manger sucked at it though. The Japanese characters Maho and and Ray, lived in the US for a bit but I don't recall any definite time frames about how old they were when they arrived or how long they stayed. At best I would immediately agree that their English sounded better than other native Japanese like Koyuki and Chiba. Ray sounded more fluent in English, that doesn't mean he speaks it perfectly or without an accent. Maho knows English but seemed to be at a Japanese High School level and did more talking with her Japanese friends in poorly used English catchphrases. |
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| Not really. If I get bored, I can start making fun of the voices. If it's decent, then there's no arguing about it. The effort of adding voices was put, so I have to appreciate that, even if it doesn't work as well. |
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| It doesn't really ruin it for me, but it definitely puts a damper on it. Like say for instance I'm watching World Destruction: Sekai Bokumetsu no Rokunin in English... and I'm not particularly fond of the woman who voices Morte Asherah. It just doesn't seem to fit the character. But that's just my opinion. |
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| Not really the Anime itself but rather the character alone. |
| Yes it does. I usually go for Japanese voices with english subs. Usually I stay away from the dubed animes because most of them suk and ruin the mood. Though animes like Death Note, Full Metal Panic and Code Gease where great dubbed. |
| Well, yeah, it can... sometimes, the voices are so annoying that I can barely watch the anime (I'm not talking just about the english dub, but it also happens there) XP That's why I watch them almost always in the original Japanese... |
| Deffinitely yes. I mean, I can still watch it, but I can't fully enjoy it. |
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| Yeeeeeeeeees It can be so annoying sometimes -_____- |
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| It depends if it's genuinely(i.e Excel from Excel saga) then yes but if the person is just haming it up then I'll stick with it, I may not take it seriously but it'll still be fun. |
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| Dropped Fruits Basket in the first ten minutes. Both Japanese sub and English dub. |
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| Definitely. It becomes a nuisance, and then you skip past all of their lines in the anime. |
| I haven't really seen bad voice acting overall(maybe a few scenes here and there). If anything, it just bothers me when a character from an anime I was anticipating sounds nothing like how I thought they would sound. I'm talking to you Black Star(Soul Eater), as well as you Goku(DBZ). |
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| english dub almost always puts me off for anime for games i don't really mind as much but there was one where the voice acting was sooooooo bad that i couldn't play it i forgot the name but id recognize it if i saw the cover |
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| there's only one anime that I watch with English Dub. Trigun, because I had the DVD set in English. Now the Japanese version sounds really weird. Otherwise, HELL NO! |
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| Of course it ruins the mood. If it feels fake then you can't get immersed in the series because that realization that its just some actor in a booth reading some lines keeps yanking you out. And its not like there aren't anime with terrible Japanese VA's either. Kare Kano is an example of a show I couldn't finish, partially due to the mostly terrible voice actors with exception being the lead herself. (sadly the dub was even worse...). |
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| It can be annoying when the voice of the voice actor doesn't fit with the character or when the VA speaks in a bored manner. I also don't like it when English VAs pronounce names strangely (or wrongly), although I have to say that this got a lot better in recent dubs and most of them really make an effort to pronounce it as close as possible to the Japanese pronunciation. But these things don't ruin the whole show for me, I've never dropped any anime because of that. It's also not restricted to English dub, I've also heard enough bad/unfitting Japanese voices / voice actings. |
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| Original is the best. If you really like an anime then you should watch it with japanese audio because those are the original voices of the characters. |
| It can make an anime. Garzey's Wing wouldn't be the same without the English dub. |
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MisakiMisaka said: I think I'm the only one here that avoids almost all the English dubs. Thats 95% of all ppl that watch anime |
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| Yeah, thought it would be convenient to watch Haruhi in English. Not making that mistake again. Same with quite a few things, but it depends on the program really. I actually really disliked the Japanese voice actors for Fullmetal Alchemist, so I suppose it doesn't ruin it, but it may make me reach for the other language version. Matter of interest, I got the 5cm per Second dubbed version by accident recently, is it good/bad/ugly? Should I look for the sub? |
| Yes, though there aren't many instances where the VA has been really bad, though I do tend to avoid dubs so I have missed most of the bad ones. |
| Only times I get frustrated is when certain female characters get a 'manlier' tone for Jap; and when male characters get a 'girlier' tone in English dubs. Altogether it doesn't bother me too much, and I normally adjust, if not grow onto the voice actor. So to answer your question, no, not really. ^^ |
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| Not really. If it's a series I'm interested in, if I watch it long enough I'll get used to it and eventually like it. |
Nabris said: Not really. If it's a series I'm interested in, if I watch it long enough I'll get used to it and eventually like it. That sounds so sad. |
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| It usually depends on whether or not I've seen the Japanese dub yet. If I haven't seen the Japanese version I can watch the English version just fine. But if I saw the Japanese version first I tend to hate the English dub. But yeah, maybe that's just me |
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TenkaseiRyo said: its bad acort placement that kills things for me one big emale is wakamoto in azumanga i liked it cause of all the other seiyuu but hearing his voice with all the youngster took the shine of them having a legend in your cast is good for bring in older fans but overall if for the moast part hes older to be the father of all the cast it draws you to him as the oly reason olde fans would view it why to you think the new Rupan tv sp did not do that well taking voices thta in some cases have been in that cast from day 1 kills older fans form looking at it and the Hrand dawn animation for drive some younger fans away Dude. People need to retire eventually. Of the 3 replacements only 1 is kind of questionable. And the art for the show says Lupin. |
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| Yes, no particular anime, but I refuse to watch most english dubs. The characters just seem emotionless with english VA.. but that's just me ^^; |
| Yes, which is why I stick to subs. |
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