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| DAMN! I'm sure I will cry a lot if I hadn't read the manga first, but still, I alomost cried... >< |
maji_saikou said: O-M-G! Just one word: KANDOU ! Cant find the English word for it xD Really loved this episode!! I think the word you want 2 use is epic |
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| Wow! Just wow :3 I was a little disappointed over how easy they "won" over Father though. |
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| THIS IS ANIMATION. THIS IS ACTION. THIS IS FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST. THIS IS EPICNESS. ANd I'm not a FMA fan, I just thoroughly enjoyed this episode. |
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| Its just weird, I finished the manga and felt content, but now as im watching the series end im having a hard time believing its gonna end. 2 more to go. |
| EPIC EPISODE!!!! Alphonse sacrifices himself for his brother. His brother in rage with his body parts back goes in rage and destroys the homunculus! Will he be able to save Alphonse after its all over? Will he be willing to sacrifice a human life to get his brother back? |
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| Watched tmd's version online , and gotta admit , the subs make this episode look better . Wow . . Kameda's work in two important scenes is worthy of appreciation . . :) still can't find an eclipse version though :( |
| 5/5 Nothing more to say |
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| Am I the only one who got goosebumps??? WOW, what an episode, what a series. Also, can we stop fighting about who makes the discussion and what the poll says, this is an utterly stupid waste of time, we're here to discuss FMA, not the poll or who makes the thread. I think that the forum moderators should just make an automatic discussion thread for every episode, that way we don't have a million people bitching every week. |
| Man, I wanted to cry. :o |
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| Holy fuck. I am astounded. I'm kind of pissed at the first anime though. They spoiled what Al did in THIS version, by having him do nearly the same thing in their version. No matter how you look at it, that was NO coincidence. Especially since we know that they knew the ending back then. |
_Vincent_Jun 21, 2010 8:47 PM
| AWESOME EPISODE!!! And yes,the first anime is full of crap!! |
KazeFalcon said: AWESOME EPISODE!!! And yes,the first anime is full of crap!! Thank you, you're absolutely correct. NOW, can we please lower their ridiculously high rating that they have. Honestly 8.66 for an anime that DOESN'T follow the manga, and had a ridiculous "anime-only" ending?? Seems like there are too many HYPOCRITES in MAL, they HATE fillers, but that's only when they are aware of it. In other words most people who saw the first FMA, had not read the manga, therefore they thought it was a "masterpiece" despite the fact it was actually crap. |
belatkuro said: Jrittmayer said: This is what makes FMA:B even better, apart from the show itself. I enjoy coming to this thread every week to see the weekly argument on polls :D *crosses fingers that Fai will start next weeks thread* |
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alexcampos said: KazeFalcon said: AWESOME EPISODE!!! And yes,the first anime is full of crap!! Thank you, you're absolutely correct. NOW, can we please lower their ridiculously high rating that they have. Honestly 8.66 for an anime that DOESN'T follow the manga, and had a ridiculous "anime-only" ending?? Seems like there are too many HYPOCRITES in MAL, they HATE fillers, but that's only when they are aware of it. In other words most people who saw the first FMA, had not read the manga, therefore they thought it was a "masterpiece" despite the fact it was actually crap. lol i knew it was filler towards the end but i still like it....not as much as this one though :P plus im probably one of the few who like fillers.....i mean the big 3 shounen manga movies are almost always filler but i rarely see people complain about them on the forums >< |
alexcampos said: KazeFalcon said: AWESOME EPISODE!!! And yes,the first anime is full of crap!! Thank you, you're absolutely correct. NOW, can we please lower their ridiculously high rating that they have. Honestly 8.66 for an anime that DOESN'T follow the manga, and had a ridiculous "anime-only" ending?? Seems like there are too many HYPOCRITES in MAL, they HATE fillers, but that's only when they are aware of it. In other words most people who saw the first FMA, had not read the manga, therefore they thought it was a "masterpiece" despite the fact it was actually crap. Too true, same thing goes for those who complain about anime being cut/uncut. If they can watch the cut version and not notice the difference...then whats the point? |
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| The action in this is pretty amazing. |
| Ok. I've got a question. Is Al dead now? The way it was translated (I think I got a decent translation), it sounded like he was giving up the blood seal, which had been what sealed his soul to the armor, and re-accepting his body. The blood seal had cost Ed's arm, so that was returned to him. Since both the arm, and Al's body disappeared from the gate area, it wasn't really explained well. |
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| @Jrittmayer , fai did start the thread this time around , but , it was removed (by moderators most probably) the first anime was a masterpiece in its own right , so please don't degrade it . Its not crap . . And al hasn't died yet . He's just locked in front of the gate and has no way out . . XVID version {TMD} |
lafuria_suxJun 22, 2010 12:14 AM
silent_killer said: still can't find an eclipse version though :( Nothing biggy, since I have Jap 101, and the episode was soooo full of actions (minimal dialog) i understood most of it. anyways, I will be waiting for Eclipse: Just that their TL moved to Tokyo, FMA 62 predicted for tuesday night [Europe]. Thats all I have got from Eclipse. |
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| I cried. A really good episode :) |
silent_killer said: the first anime was a masterpiece in its own right , so please don't degrade it . Its not crap . . Whether or not it was good, is completely up to the viewer, I however don't like the Hypocrisy associated with the first FMA. Many people blame fillers for the hating of big anime such as Naruto and Bleach, many people blame "anime-only" endings for the same hating of other series like Claymore, Soul Eater, Love Hina, Hellsing (the original), Tsubasa Chronicle, I could keep going but there are too many to name. However, the first FMA, had BOTH fillers and an "anime-only" ending, and yet it was hailed as a masterpiece, and "one of the best". BUT NOW that everyone has seen just how FMA REALLY IS, many have questioned themselves: What was so great about the first FMA??? The fact is that many people who saw the first FMA had not read the manga, and therefore did not know that the MAJORITY of the first FMA was filler and NOT THE FMA STORY AT ALL. All I'm saying is that I LOVE FMA manga and THIS anime, However; the first FMA, IN MY OPINION was not good at all and should be downgraded in terms of rankings. (only because this is the accurate story) |
alexcampos said: silent_killer said: the first anime was a masterpiece in its own right , so please don't degrade it . Its not crap . . Whether or not it was good, is completely up to the viewer, I however don't like the Hypocrisy associated with the first FMA. Many people blame fillers for the hating of big anime such as Naruto and Bleach, many people blame "anime-only" endings for the same hating of other series like Claymore, Soul Eater, Love Hina, Hellsing (the original), Tsubasa Chronicle, I could keep going but there are too many to name. However, the first FMA, had BOTH fillers and an "anime-only" ending, and yet it was hailed as a masterpiece, and "one of the best". BUT NOW that everyone has seen just how FMA REALLY IS, many have questioned themselves: What was so great about the first FMA??? The fact is that many people who saw the first FMA had not read the manga, and therefore did not know that the MAJORITY of the first FMA was filler and NOT THE FMA STORY AT ALL. All I'm saying is that I LOVE FMA manga and THIS anime, However; the first FMA, IN MY OPINION was not good at all and should be downgraded in terms of rankings. (only because this is the accurate story) I loved the first anime, but had to lower my score on it a notch when I started with the manga and Brotherhood storyline, because that showed me the true potential of FMA as a work of fiction. Can't say I didn't enjoy the first anime so it still gets a decent score, but I did lower it from a 9 to an 8. Brotherhood is on the verge of getting a 10. |
ArnoldKJun 22, 2010 7:07 AM
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alexcampos said: Whether or not it was good, is completely up to the viewer, I however don't like the Hypocrisy associated with the first FMA. Many people blame fillers for the hating of big anime such as Naruto and Bleach please , don't compare naruto and bleach to fullmetal alchemist. And cmon , soul eater's ending sucked to the core . Mindless mind *uck in the last episode . |
silent_killer said: alexcampos said: Whether or not it was good, is completely up to the viewer, I however don't like the Hypocrisy associated with the first FMA. Many people blame fillers for the hating of big anime such as Naruto and Bleach please , don't compare naruto and bleach to fullmetal alchemist. And cmon , soul eater's ending sucked to the core . Mindless mind *uck in the last episode . I wasn't trying to compare Naruto and Bleach to the first FMA, just what they both have in common which was FILLERS. FMA is a great series, I just have a problem with the first FMA. Just like Hellsing is another great series, and just like FMA, the first Hellsing was not made to follow the manga and nor did it do a very good job at the end. Soul Eater is a perfect example of a good manga getting an anime adaptation, and then having that anime end completely OUTSIDE the manga, and I guess it's not surprising that BONES was in charge of both the first FMA and Soul Eater. If Soul Eater were remade 6 years from now, and they followed it to the end just like the manga, WITHOUT fillers, I would also be saying the same thing about Soul Eater that I'm saying about FMA. Remakes (in anime) are made to RIGHT the WRONGS, and I applaud Bones for remaking FMA. |
| Wow, this was the best episode after the episodes with King Bradley Vs. everyone. |
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| Great episode, great series, 2 more episodes to go and then it's over. But seriously, this anime will be a classic for years to come. |
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| I really loved the first anime, but when compared to Brotherhood... IT DOESNT WORTH S*** !! AND EPISODE 62 WAS FREAKIN AWESOME !! I just want to see what happens next O_O but I dont want the anime ta end -___- |
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| Mustang show again in the pic :) Loved him And Al was awesome xD |
| Last 5 minutes of this episode were the best I've seen in a long long time, gave me goosebumps! The next two are going to be equally epic! Can't wait! >_< |
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silent_killer said: And al hasn't died yet. Yet? |
alexcampos said: KazeFalcon said: AWESOME EPISODE!!! And yes,the first anime is full of crap!! Thank you, you're absolutely correct. NOW, can we please lower their ridiculously high rating that they have. Honestly 8.66 for an anime that DOESN'T follow the manga, and had a ridiculous "anime-only" ending?? Seems like there are too many HYPOCRITES in MAL, they HATE fillers, but that's only when they are aware of it. In other words most people who saw the first FMA, had not read the manga, therefore they thought it was a "masterpiece" despite the fact it was actually crap. I saw FMA without knowing about the manga. After knowing it was half filler especialy the ending, i saw it again twice over 3 years, and I still can say It's a masterpiece of anime, even after Watching Brotherhood.Yes, Dante sucks, but still the "other side of the gate" was awesome and original, I loved the fact they put the Human World in the anime, and the history of World War. And Lust had very good development, the fact that Homunculus were born from human transmutations was great, maybe more that in this case, that Father simply creates them. The Ost of the first series is suberb too And I can't see what's the problem of FMA (or any other anime) having 8.66 even without following the manga, for me it's still awesome and epic, and my 2nd favorite anime ever, only behind FMA: Brotherhood. So let your opinions be less ofensive and more comprehensive because we can think a series is epic even if we don't know about the manga. (And know I do, because I watch Brotherhood and read the Ishibal chapters of the manga) |
AnoniMus said: alexcampos said: KazeFalcon said: AWESOME EPISODE!!! And yes,the first anime is full of crap!! Thank you, you're absolutely correct. NOW, can we please lower their ridiculously high rating that they have. Honestly 8.66 for an anime that DOESN'T follow the manga, and had a ridiculous "anime-only" ending?? Seems like there are too many HYPOCRITES in MAL, they HATE fillers, but that's only when they are aware of it. In other words most people who saw the first FMA, had not read the manga, therefore they thought it was a "masterpiece" despite the fact it was actually crap. I saw FMA without knowing about the manga. After knowing it was half filler especialy the ending, i saw it again twice over 3 years, and I still can say It's a masterpiece of anime, even after Watching Brotherhood.Yes, Dante sucks, but still the "other side of the gate" was awesome and original, I loved the fact they put the Human World in the anime, and the history of World War. And Lust had very good development, the fact that Homunculus were born from human transmutations was great, maybe more that in this case, that Father simply creates them. The Ost of the first series is suberb too And I can't see what's the problem of FMA (or any other anime) having 8.66 even without following the manga, for me it's still awesome and epic, and my 2nd favorite anime ever, only behind FMA: Brotherhood. So let your opinions be less ofensive and more comprehensive because we can think a series is epic even if we don't know about the manga. (And know I do, because I watch Brotherhood and read the Ishibal chapters of the manga) Before FMA brotherhood began, the first FMA had a score of 8.70 - 8.72 I can't remember how high it was, but at least it was 8.70. Now it's down to 8.66, add to the fact that OVER 76,000 MAL members have given their scores, TRUST ME, people have noticed that the first FMA was NOT as good as they thought it was. UPDATE: it's now at 8.65 (I wonder why?) |
| Worst that those that give an high rate, are those who gives 1 out of 10 only to lower the average (I'm not teling you did it). I have given FMA 10 out of 10, and I mantain it, and Brotherhood has the same 10. But I think it should be possible to give half points, like 9,5 this way some of my 9 would turn out 9,5 and some of my 10 (like the 1st FMA, Monster and Code Geass) would turn 9,5. So it would be like 0 out of 20 instead of 10, I think it would be more fair. And I do not say 0 out of100, because for me that's ridicuouls, how can someone distinguish 98 from 99 or 76 from 77, it's the same shit. lol i've ended up talking about other stuff, but who cares :P But answering your question, it's natural the first Fma series lose some points for 2 reasons. 1º- Memories tend to fade away, you see and epic anime long time ago, and now you see another, and sudently you think there's nothing better that this, so you give less importance to the old anime. It happened to me with Naruto, one time I thought it was awesome, but I can see it's no big anime, only good. 2º and most important. You see FMA and rate 10 for example, and then see Brotherhood and rate 10 but you think it's better that FMA, so FMA droops 1 points, lowering the average. (like my case, but I prefer to give 10 that 9, but as I said 9,5 would be ideal). |
AnoniMusJun 22, 2010 7:07 PM
AnoniMus said: Worst that those that give an high rate, are those who gives 1 out of 10 only to lower the average (I'm not teling you did it). Those are HATERS, those are people who despise something so much that they go out of their way just to spite everyone else. IMO, there is NO anime that deserves a 1 out of 10, especially if you saw it from beginning to end, at the other side of the coin giving something a 10 is the exact opposite. I will admit that I am GUILTY of being drawn into fanaticism and giving an anime a 10, even when it doesn't deserve it (BLEACH) I honestly think Bleach deserves between a 7.5 - 8.0, I gave it a 10 because it continues to be my favorite anime, and NO, I'M NOT CRAZY nor do I lack the taste of "quality anime". BUT, I would never rate down or up an anime just to see their rating improve or destroyed. I gave the first FMA a 6 out of 10, I honestly felt that it was never that great and I did not like how it ended. I will OBVIOUSLY give FMA Brotherhood a 10 out of 10, not because it's my favorite, but because it DESERVES IT. |
shanimebib said: silent_killer said: still can't find an eclipse version though :( Nothing biggy, since I have Jap 101, and the episode was soooo full of actions (minimal dialog) i understood most of it. anyways, I will be waiting for Eclipse: Just that their TL moved to Tokyo, FMA 62 predicted for tuesday night [Europe]. Thats all I have got from Eclipse. Moved to 'Wednesday night'.... |
| I watched FMA 1, felt it had a good ending. That was why I was interested to hear that there was a manga alternate version, and started following the manga. Ignoring purist arguments of "because it's not the original", FMA 1 had really good direction and plot. I suppose FMA 2 was more appealing because it had a more shounen feel from Arakawa, compared to 1's more eccentric, personal and intense drama and perspective all on Ed. I think recent manga chapters are too fresh on my mind, I don't quite get the same thrill watching now as I had 20++ episodes back. Greed still felt kinda out-of-place, all the surprise attacks that don't really do anything proper (and concerning what happened eventually). Still the pacing is not too bad. If Shunkan was still the ending song, it'd think this episode would have ended on a more epic note. =D |
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| 2 more episodes omg i just can't get enough of full metal alchemist, lol i'm going to read the manga after this. |
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cardinal4 said: I watched FMA 1, felt it had a good ending. That was why I was interested to hear that there was a manga alternate version, and started following the manga. Ignoring purist arguments of "because it's not the original", FMA 1 had really good direction and plot. I suppose FMA 2 was more appealing because it had a more shounen feel from Arakawa, compared to 1's more eccentric, personal and intense drama and perspective all on Ed. exactly , fma1 had much better direction than fma brotherhood . I've already had an argument wit fai about which anime was directed better . But like i said . . Core content , art/animation , brotherhood tops fma1 . But both remain masterpieces in their own rights . Creating fillers is also a tricky thing to do AlexCampos . That is where fma1's staff has to be respected . Not only did they come up wit a logical story , they also ended up creating a great series , which was critically/commercially acclaimed . . |
| ^giving a 10 doesn't make someone a fan boy but i do agree wit you , i don't see a point in reducing the score of an anime series just because you've seen a remake which has turned out to be better . Don't forget the two series are completely different from each other :) Its like reducing the score for one piece , after watchin naruto . I'm not comparing the series . But thats how it is . . (where one piece =/fma 1 , and naruto =/fma brotherhood) @Anonimus . . Yes , it is the 4th ending :) |
lafuria_suxJun 23, 2010 6:00 AM
cardinal4 said: Still the pacing is not too bad. If Shunkan was still the ending song, it'd think this episode would have ended on a more epic note. =D Shunkan is the 4th ending right? |
| epicness! 5/5 for me |
| Wheres my Eclipse subs >_> |
| awesome episode with a great fight ^-^ i can't wait for the next one !!!!!!!!!!! |
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