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Jul 25, 9:51 PM
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welp there is a backslash about the romance between niska and bug eyes since people think niska is not yet in the age of consent or the age gap is too big https://www.reddit.com/r/VinlandSaga/comments/1m99xyu/certain_relationship_in_final_chapter_220_spoilers/

i say its just culture wars again especially old generations vs new generations this time i mean im sure ancient people do not have much developed morality like modern humanity has and also this is just japan culture thing again

but what are your thoughts on the matter?

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Jul 25, 10:27 PM
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Lmao, people will make a controversy about anything.
Jul 26, 1:06 AM
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bro the concept of age is dependent on generation. ignore those stupid people. they make controversy about anything without second hand knowledge.
Jul 26, 1:08 AM
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I havent even read it and there's already a controversy. Sigh... age gap huh. Nothing new i guess.
Jul 26, 1:56 AM
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I mean it's just 6 tweets with no interactions to them, I think no one rly cared about that, just a few people because everyone is different and some will not like it.
Jul 26, 4:40 AM
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Best thing is to ignore people who make a big deal about this case of age gap. You're bringing more attention to this than it deserves

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Jul 26, 5:53 AM
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bro this is normal having relationships like that my mom is 44 and dad is 50 and there are many people having relationships like that. I don't get why people are so obsessive about "Oh he is 4 years older than her it is DISGUSTING" like do these people hear themselves when talking like that, 4 years is not large gap and actually 12 to 15 years is definition of large gap, but heck even if someone is 12 years older if both sides are caring for each other and are comfortable with why not. As long as both sides are comfortable, having consent, and are caring towards each other then what's the issue there? Some people will always have some issues and try to create these controversies based on such their issue, it's best to ignore these type of people.
jacobPOLJul 26, 6:10 AM
Jul 26, 5:59 AM
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Age gap? In my historical story that took place 1,000 years ago? Too problematic. Let’s ignore the viking mercenary leader that everyone loves who facilities murder rape and pillaging, and just complain about this.
Jul 26, 6:05 AM
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Age gap romance is wholesome.
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Jul 26, 6:52 AM

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controversy? is fucking Vinland Saga, who cares about that detail? 😭 😭
Jul 26, 7:35 AM

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That's utterly stupid, but hey it's from Twitter it's been a long time since I don't expect anything clever coming from this trashy website

Story is set in the Middle Ages, Niska is something around 15-16 according to the author
Heck, girls were getting married at 11 or 12 in real life back then, most of the time with far older adults and for political/economical purposes

Here in Vinland you have a relationship between two consenting adults (yeah, at 15 at that time you were definitively an adult) so there's nothing wrong


So yeah, twitter stupidity is at it again, coupled with that scary modern puritanism tendency
Jul 26, 7:36 AM

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If these people look at the marriage ages of their ancestors in their family tree, they'll go crazy.
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Jul 26, 7:50 AM

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I know neither characters age and then again they're just characters on a page of paper. Meaning it's all good and people crying about irrelevant stuff like this should seek mental healthcare :)
I'm not reading any replies or comments directed at me at all. I know my truth and if you disagree: that's fine but i couldn't give a damn about :)

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Well the manga is semi based on real history, so it makes sense to have big age gaps since this was something that happened back then, it's not the author's fault
Jul 26, 11:42 PM
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Well the manga is semi based on real history, so it makes sense to have big age gaps since this was something that happened back then, it's not the author's fault
@Yoda_832 yep i just recently remember this term presentism
Jul 27, 1:15 AM

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Lol imagine if those people learned that girls had arranged marriages to old fucks at early adolescence during that age.
Jul 27, 2:15 AM
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God fucking damn bro what’s with ppl and age in anime characters? Like they act like they’re real fucking ppl and shit it’s so weird and annoying
Jul 27, 3:33 AM

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Reply to Damuzen
That's utterly stupid, but hey it's from Twitter it's been a long time since I don't expect anything clever coming from this trashy website

Story is set in the Middle Ages, Niska is something around 15-16 according to the author
Heck, girls were getting married at 11 or 12 in real life back then, most of the time with far older adults and for political/economical purposes

Here in Vinland you have a relationship between two consenting adults (yeah, at 15 at that time you were definitively an adult) so there's nothing wrong


So yeah, twitter stupidity is at it again, coupled with that scary modern puritanism tendency
Damuzen said:
Heck, girls were getting married at 11 or 12 in real life back then, most of the time with far older adults and for political/economical purposes
Marriages to secure alliances, yes however, it wasn't like those marriages were consummated immediately. People were aware of when it was safe to have a child back then. Henry VII's marriage to Margaret Beaufort (12 at the time) and consummation was actually considered quite scandalous at the time.

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These people are idiots

Marriage have been always a thing after puberty ... women and men got married at 9 and 10 and they were great parents

The concept of "Minors", "Underage" and "18 = adult" is a modern thing linked to the new educational system and it is all based on profit

If people don't work or get married until they go through the whole system then someone has to pay for that ... yes it is all about money

How do you become an adult? The answer is simple: puberty ... this is the case for all mammals and for some reason humans decided to ignore nature and come up with their own rules ...

In face many countries still allow young people (minors) to get married and guess what these "minors" are more responsible than "adults" in "developed" countries.

Also, many people got married despite the huge age gap (10-20 years gap) ... marriage is about supporting each other and starting a family; age has nothing to do with that. Marriage was never about love ... but even if it is about love, people now support LGBTQWERTY why are they against age gap?! That's dumb ...

Age gap is also a concept that produces profit ... because if you reduce the age gap then those who got old will be forced to continue working instead of finding a partner, making a family, and passing the baton to the next generation

I know someone who got married at 10 to someone who is 18 and guess what they have now about more than 7 children and they are living happily ...

The author simply depicted reality ... I marry a woman who has the potential to be a good wife and a good mother and women should marry men who are fit to be fathers and husbands ... that's all you need


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bro this is normal having relationships like that my mom is 44 and dad is 50 and there are many people having relationships like that. I don't get why people are so obsessive about "Oh he is 4 years older than her it is DISGUSTING" like do these people hear themselves when talking like that, 4 years is not large gap and actually 12 to 15 years is definition of large gap, but heck even if someone is 12 years older if both sides are caring for each other and are comfortable with why not. As long as both sides are comfortable, having consent, and are caring towards each other then what's the issue there? Some people will always have some issues and try to create these controversies based on such their issue, it's best to ignore these type of people.
@jacobPOL According to the wiki, Niska is 15-16 yo and Bug Eyes is 25-26 yo.
People are making it a big deal because she's a minor even if she can legally consent (anyone can be groomed even adults because it's about the power dynamics of the relationship), and Bug Eyes seemed wanting to reject her in precedent chapters (they relationship would have worked out better if it wasn't rushed and if they turned lovers once she became an adult imo, it would felt more earned at least).
Along with the fact that they made a big part of the last chapter and most people wanted it to be more about the main cast especially Thorfinn. People wouldn't have been that upset if they weren't left with that imo.

PS (doesn't really respond to your comment \(;゚∇゚)/) : Yukimura is bringing a modern ideology to the Viking period so people doing the same for this age gap doesn't seem out of place.
Jul 28, 8:25 PM

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Just throwing a thought in the air for anyone that might need it...

You can just stop caring about anything anyone has to say in regards to your hobbies or stories you might like, it's too easy and it makes your life better!
Jul 29, 12:09 AM

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Cielord said:
Lmao, people will make a controversy about anything.

so true brother, nowadays, even silence turns into controversy. People just need something to argue about 🤷‍♂️

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Bug-eyes and Niska kinda reminds me of my parents, lol. there goes a great manga with a wholesome ending. pathetic moralfanboys are just mad best guy gets what he deserves.
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