| Nintendo isn’t alleging Yuzu stole the keys — but says it’s all about piracy. If you’ve ever seen a Steam Deck playing a Legend of Zelda game, chances are you were seeing the Yuzu emulator at work. Now, Nintendo has sued the developers of Yuzu in US federal court, with the intent of squashing Yuzu for good. In the lawsuit, spotted by Stephen Totilo, Nintendo alleges that Yuzu violates the anti-circumvention and anti-trafficking provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) as well as accusing the creators of copyright infringement. It alleges Yuzu is “primarily designed” to circumvent several layers of Nintendo Switch encryption so its users can play copyrighted Nintendo games. https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24085075/nintendo-switch-emulator-yuzu-lawsuit damn emulators enabling piracy is true though not gonna lie but lets see the future of emulators because of this |
| To be fair, there's still ryujinx so not all hope is lost. Or maybe nintendo is doing this to deter all emulators on the switch. |
| Emulation and piracy is not going down for any company. I doubt even if Nintendo can win this case. Even if yuzu magically disappears which is near impossible we still got Ryujinx for Switch. Nintendo always shuts down their stores so I side with cfw and piracy. Love my luma 2ds. |
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| Welp, Nintendo just being Nintendo again. |
| When deciding who to buy media entertainment from, it's best to direct your disposable income towards companies which don't sue hobbyists like this. |
| Nintendo being typical Nintendo. I own 5 Nintendo Switches and like 45 games. Don't have a need for an emulator but who are they to tell me I can't use one if I want too, especially if I already own the content I am emulating. |
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| There is legal precedent for the legality of emulators and clean room reverse engineering although I haven't seen anyone go for the encryption method yet. Nintendo's goal is probably to intimidate even though the case doesn't seem in their favor given previous cases and hopefuly (for them) taking down the other decent Switch emulator in the process. |
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| Either way the verdict for this suit will set a precedent for all suit of similar situations that follow. |
| Typical of Nintendo, but maybe they should concentrate on creating a console worth buying, and not ripping their customers off with a crappy paid online service. They make great games, but unfortunately they're on Nintendo consoles. Edit: It is ethical and morally righteous to pirate Nintendo games. |
 @deg @tchitchouan The precedent was already set over two decades ago. Emulators are legal, but copyrighted bios and roms are not. |
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@deg @tchitchouan
The precedent was already set over two decades ago. Emulators are legal, but copyrighted bios and roms are not.
| @DreamWindow The Sony lawsuit never truly solidified the legality of emulators and the sum of its potential copyrighted parts needed for software to run. |
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Typical of Nintendo, but maybe they should concentrate on creating a console worth buying, and not ripping their customers off with a crappy paid online service. They make great games, but unfortunately they're on Nintendo consoles.
Edit: It is ethical and morally righteous to pirate Nintendo games.
Edit: It is ethical and morally righteous to pirate Nintendo games.
| @Alita let's be honest, they could make the best console there is at a reasonable price. people would still pirate the shit out of it. and while emulators are technically not illegal, let's not kid ourselves. the overwhelming majority use emulators to play pirated games. |
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| Well, to be fair... it is kind of their right to call it "piracy" or whatever, you are certainly not going to build a chip reader to buy games, and the Nintendo Shop is not available on PC. If they where issuing BIOS with it, then I think they can be fucked up, so lets hope they didn't, so the project can keep on. And about Nintendo... this is their usual shit: use their legal team to strike anything that threats them. I honestly don't understand them, they could have taken the whole mobile market but they haven't done anything to consolidate their territory, and then Valve launched the Steam deck that open the game to other PC based software. This is probably because they already tasted the sweet money of smartphone market, I don't think they will return anytime soon. |
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@Alita let's be honest, they could make the best console there is at a reasonable price. people would still pirate the shit out of it.
and while emulators are technically not illegal, let's not kid ourselves. the overwhelming majority use emulators to play pirated games.
and while emulators are technically not illegal, let's not kid ourselves. the overwhelming majority use emulators to play pirated games.
| @DreamingBeats They could, hypothetically, but they won't. And yeah you're right, many people will still pirate no matter what. I will pirate Nintendo games cause you can very easily have a better experience pirating their games on PC, upscaling the resolution and reaching higher framerates, and you can do it for free... It's a no-brainer. For example I'd rather play BOTW at 1440p 60fps than 1080p with an inconsistent 30fps, it's their own fault for releasing a console so underpowered it can be emulated easily by fairly low end PC hardware. Their treatment of their retro library is particularly bad too. On the other hand, I don't really bother with pirating PC games, I'm fine with buying them on steam since its a relatively decent platform. The only performance gains you'd possibly see from pirating is due to the removal of DRM which can reduce performance. So while there are people who are just gonna pirate everything they possibly can, there are still people like me who simply dislike Nintendo's consoles or their business practices. |
Reply to Alita
Typical of Nintendo, but maybe they should concentrate on creating a console worth buying, and not ripping their customers off with a crappy paid online service. They make great games, but unfortunately they're on Nintendo consoles.
Edit: It is ethical and morally righteous to pirate Nintendo games.
Edit: It is ethical and morally righteous to pirate Nintendo games.
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Love it when people parrot shit because a defunct dev gone streamer/youtuber said so.
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Love it when people parrot shit because a defunct dev gone streamer/youtuber said so.
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Reply to tchitchouan
@DreamWindow The Sony lawsuit never truly solidified the legality of emulators and the sum of its potential copyrighted parts needed for software to run.
| @tchitchouan Yes, it did. It determined that emulators in of themselves are legal to distribute, but it established that copyrighted files (such as BIOS files and software) are not. This is why you can find people distributing emulators, but saying that you need to dump the BIOS files yourself, because it's not legal for them to distribute them. It's been like this for a long time. |
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@tchitchouan
Yes, it did. It determined that emulators in of themselves are legal to distribute, but it established that copyrighted files (such as BIOS files and software) are not. This is why you can find people distributing emulators, but saying that you need to dump the BIOS files yourself, because it's not legal for them to distribute them. It's been like this for a long time.
Yes, it did. It determined that emulators in of themselves are legal to distribute, but it established that copyrighted files (such as BIOS files and software) are not. This is why you can find people distributing emulators, but saying that you need to dump the BIOS files yourself, because it's not legal for them to distribute them. It's been like this for a long time.
| @DreamWindow So basically Nintendo's argument is not about the legality of the emulator rather it's about the tools that the devs gave to dump a switch's bios and copyrighted authentication keys. |
Reply to tchitchouan
@DreamWindow So basically Nintendo's argument is not about the legality of the emulator rather it's about the tools that the devs gave to dump a switch's bios and copyrighted authentication keys.
| @tchitchouan Yeah basically. I don't think they would have much ground to stand on otherwise. |
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| Update: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-emulator-creator-settles-nintendo-lawsuit-for-2-4m/ There was a settlement of 2.4 mil (USD) and the creators can no longer offer Yuzu. Hopefully this won't affect older emulators (such as DesMuMe, Dolphin, etc.) |
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Update:
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-emulator-creator-settles-nintendo-lawsuit-for-2-4m/
There was a settlement of 2.4 mil (USD) and the creators can no longer offer Yuzu.
Hopefully this won't affect older emulators (such as DesMuMe, Dolphin, etc.)
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-emulator-creator-settles-nintendo-lawsuit-for-2-4m/
There was a settlement of 2.4 mil (USD) and the creators can no longer offer Yuzu.
Hopefully this won't affect older emulators (such as DesMuMe, Dolphin, etc.)
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