| Given how Naofumi is fighting serious foes he can not afford having a traitor by his side. Also, slavery system helps buff his party, and it is a sign of devotion to his goals so no one half heartidly joins him. |
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| its just another trashy power fantasy tbh. but this show is always trying to morally justify it lmao |
Hamzov_Komrade said: its just another trashy power fantasy tbh. but this show is always trying to morally justify it lmao It’s not trashy and the fact that it is normal in the other world, it doesn’t need to “justify” it |
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Nyron said: shouldn't this loser have enough self esteem by now to let the girls like him without being literally shackled to him? When someone does not pay attention and follow a story, they end up writing comments that just make them look bad, instead of the show/character they are trying to insult. Anyone actually watching the story knows what’s going on and the good relationship these characters have with each other. Naofumi Iwatani was betrayed by literally everyone in the country, except a small few, which means he couldn’t trust anyone. This left him with the only option of getting slaves, as a way to get help and to make sure they didn’t betray him or stab him in the back, like the princess of the nation did. He did not mistreat Raphtalia, he healed her of her sickness, clothed and fed her, gave her confidence, and taught her to fight. He did not mistreat Filo either, he took care of her, fed her, got her a wagon, which made her really happy, and helped her with the Queen of Filolias Fitoria. He provided them with weapons, he saved them, he protected them, and he fought for them many times. And then later, the girls Raphtalia & Filo, freely chose to remain “slaves” for the power / experience boost they both received, in fact, the girls convinced Rishia to become a slave to get more powerful faster. |
ejleonFeb 5, 5:59 PM
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| It's pretty obvious, that Naofumi has severe trust issues and won't trust anyone, but his slaves who can't betray him due to collar. |
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| What episode are you in? looks like you have yet to get to that part if you're asking like that. |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| I still don't understand why slavery actually give them a buff. |
| Because it's hot. |
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| It was told somewhere in the beginning of the show, and I don’t remember it well enough, but I think that having the “slave” status has several upsides, such as an increased growth rate (if a slave kills an enemy, both get the EXP and the same goes for the master) and additional param boost from the master. As a downside, though, a slave can’t disobey their master’s orders, of course, and is easily trackable. |
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| Not gonna defend the show itself but it's obvious that the girls want to be his slaves, he doesn't force any of them. |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
ejleon said: Nyron said: shouldn't this loser have enough self esteem by now to let the girls like him without being literally shackled to him? When someone does not pay attention and follow a story, they end up writing comments that just make them look bad, instead of the show/character they are trying to insult. Anyone actually watching the story knows what’s going on and the good relationship these characters have with each other. Naofumi Iwatani was betrayed by literally everyone in the country, except a small few, which means he couldn’t trust anyone. This left him with the only option of getting slaves, as a way to get help and to make sure they didn’t betray him or stab him in the back, like the princess of the nation did. He did not mistreat Raphtalia, he healed her of her sickness, clothed and fed her, gave her confidence, and taught her to fight. He did not mistreat Filo either, he took care of her, fed her, got her a wagon, which made her really happy, and helped her with the Queen of Filolias Fitoria. He provided them with weapons, he saved them, he protected them, and he fought for them many times. And then later, the girls Raphtalia & Filo, freely chose to remain “slaves” for the power / experience boost they both received, in fact, the girls convinced Rishia to become a slave to get more powerful faster. Notice how this person is ignoring this. Looks like they were bored and decided to make a dumb thread for some interaction |
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JavvyF61 said: plot needs to happen The most logical take. Every char in any media doesn't have a free will, they're the puppets of fate/destiny aka writers. Did anyone ask Raphtalia and Filo if they want to remain slaves to Naofumi without the forcing of the writer, hell no! Fictional character lives matters!!! |
Bard_ErenFeb 6, 6:59 AM
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Otaku-Max said: Nyron said: shouldn't this loser have enough self esteem by now to let the girls like him without being literally shackled to him? Raphtalia wanted the collar, Naofumi doesn't really care doubt them now Author interference |
| Much of what happens in this awful series makes me think the author must be a real creep and loser. Or he has a very low opinion of his target audience. I'm only human, I do find some enjoyment in wish fulfillment sometimes. But I found it almost insulting that he thinks I need to be pandered to in this way. One of the worst goddamn shows I've ever seen. |
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Nyron said: @_Zanga there's nothing to respond to here lmao "The characters like each other so it's fine that they're slaves" is not an argument or explanation. Neither is "the plot says being a slave makes you stronger" because that's obviously nonsense I'm asking why the story is this way. "shouldn't this loser have enough self esteem by now to let the girls like him without being literally shackled to him?" That was your question and @ejleon and @TrickyHunter0506 gave you answers. You're now changing your answer to "why the story is that way". As for that how are we supposed to know? Unless the author has made a statement on why they made the story that way we can only answer you with information provided to us in the story |
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Reply to Moppit
EdgyLord666 said:
I still don't understand why slavery actually give them a buff.
I still don't understand why slavery actually give them a buff.
Naofumi poured the special ink that the slave merchant used into his shield. It gave him a passive ability. Anyone enslaved to him gets extra stats everytime they level.
| @Moppit thanks for reminding me, I wouldn’t have able to answer that one |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to epidemia78
Much of what happens in this awful series makes me think the author must be a real creep and loser. Or he has a very low opinion of his target audience. I'm only human, I do find some enjoyment in wish fulfillment sometimes. But I found it almost insulting that he thinks I need to be pandered to in this way. One of the worst goddamn shows I've ever seen.
| @epidemia78 You have clue what this show is about, if you think it’s about “wish fulfillment”, being a “creep loser”, or “pandering” to the audience. If that’s your take, you really didn’t pay attention or follow the story. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to Nyron
@epidemia78 this. Also he was correct to have such a low opinion of his audience, apparently. Begging shield hero fans to watch Now and Then, Here and There and maybe grow up a little and challenge themselves
| @Nyron your friend postings for you, did not help you, both of you have no clue what the show is actually about. And when multiple people write in to explain the actual story, you ignore that and act like you still have a valid point, but that’s being cowardly. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to kazumalifu
EdgyLord666 said:
I still don't understand why slavery actually give them a buff.
I still don't understand why slavery actually give them a buff.
and I don't understand why does an note kill people, its anime my dude
| @kazumalifu I love this response đź‘Ź thank you |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to Moppit
@ejleon I wouldn't be surprised a lot of people didn't catch it. When Raphtalia got her slave crest for the second time, Naofumi took the leftover ink and absorbed it. He said something like, "Slave bearer shield." Then it completely moved on after that.
| @Moppit Wow … yep I did miss that scene some how. Thanks for explaining what happened and the reason. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to Nyron
@ejleon buddy you have Franxx and 8 isekai in your faves. I'm ignoring you because it's apparent you've grown up on really shitty writing, so you don't see anything weird about "loser seethes about a girl and then has a harem of loli slaves", but i assure you that shield hero is not the "norm" for storytelling. This show's story isn't "about" anything. The writing is a stream of consciousness with no real point or moral. Most people can just admit that it's a trashy kink show because they know what a good show looks like. You don't tho, so maybe watch... anything else. Then maybe you can look back on these series as half-assed and juvenile.
| @Nyron I have completed 474 anime series (you only have 309) and not all of them are Isekai, there are many different genres, so your assumed claim about my MAL favorites and what I know about anime is completely invalid. Besides, your own personal opinion about my personal anime favorites on MAL is totally irrelevant. Having an irrational bias against “isekai” anime and claiming that none of them have good writing, is a major Red Flag, because I have seen many anime in other genres with absolutely horrid writing, only making isekai anime look far better. I can easily see that you are just trying to force a false narrative into the story, but failing because there is absolutely no sensual or sexual tone between the show’s main characters, meaning Naofumi and company. In fact, the main male character Naofumi Iwatani, has expressed no such interest in the girls, he has even stated multiple times that he sees them as daughters to care for and protect. Even when Sadina asked him about a relationship between Raphtalia and himself, he denied it and again expressed that he only saw them as daughters. Now don’t go making this out to be some strange or weird sexual family fantasy, because there was absolutely no sensual or sexual tone to this either, and doing this, people might just start accusing you of leaking out your own personal creepy desires onto the show. However, it is really strange that you did not mention … 1.) the spear hero Kitamura Motoyasu, who does act like a really creepy lustful werido with Filo, he even started calling Naofumi “father”, because he says he wants to marry Filo. 2.) the slave owner from the other world, who did forcefully misuse Filo as a slave for money profits, persecuting her and causing her much suffering with his cruelty. This proves that you are not really aiming to point out what is truly creepy or bad behavior in the show, but like I stated, you are just trying to force a false narrative into the show, that is just not there in any way. Honest humans — who are not just trying to trigger people as a troll like you — can easily see that you are not paying attention at all or following the actual storyline, dialogue, or interactions between the characters. You should stop being an arrogant troll, looking down on people, and making posts that are only to spark agitation and trigger people. Because all it does is make you look bad, not anyone else. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series and judge each based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to LucenProject
Nyron said:
shouldn't this loser have enough self esteem by now to let the girls like him without being literally shackled to him?
shouldn't this loser have enough self esteem by now to let the girls like him without being literally shackled to him?
He should have enough self-esteem by now.
He doesn't have enough self-esteem this far.
And for all the story lore reason that make it seem acceptable, I'm then looking at the author who made a new world, could have defined/created new types of interactions/relationships, decided to go with slavery.
| @LucenProject Another friend of the original poster, who is ignorant of the characters and show, you are just making yourselves look bad. |
ejleonFeb 6, 2:09 PM
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Reply to Nyron
@ejleon un-private your list, coward
If you've seen anything good at all, you wouldn't have a wall of 4/10 isekai shows in your favorites.
If you've seen anything good at all, you wouldn't have a wall of 4/10 isekai shows in your favorites.
| @Nyron Everyone, notice that this MAL user completely ignored everything I explained about the show, to attack me personally again, which is another major Red Flag There is nothing cowardly about it. I have my MAL profile private, because untrustworthy agitators like yourself have attacked me, leaving lying comments on my page. That’s the whole reason for making things private, it is to protect from people like you. And Again, your own personal bias against “Isekai” anime and comments about my personal MAL page, have absolutely nothing to with whether the shield hero is as you say or not. A lot of other people gave good arguments against your claims, but you ignored them and attacked others. If fallacious arguments using “ad hominem” — attacking the person, instead of discussing the topic — is all you have, then you lost already. |
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