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Dec 2, 2023 5:10 PM
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Hands down the best thing about this show is the fact that Goblin Slayer is clearly autistic and, given the time period, no one around can tell and just thinks he’s kind of a weird, shy guy. It’s actually such a powerful piece of representation that anime, as a medium, may not have ever explored - even if done by accident.
The way that he begins to learn to pick up on social cues and care outwardly for others through immersion by being with his party is actually brilliant. I came for the gritty violence of the first episode but I stayed to see these characters develop and persevere!
Drizzy_DanDec 2, 2023 5:14 PM
Dec 2, 2023 5:18 PM
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More like he was traumatized.
Dec 2, 2023 5:29 PM
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ktg said:
More like he was traumatized.

The trauma from childhood is what caused the mental development indeed
Dec 2, 2023 5:33 PM
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ktg said:
More like he was traumatized.

I agree, someone seeing their entire village slaughtered in front of them + more. I'm sure it would have an effect on how they open up and form new relationships.
Dec 2, 2023 7:09 PM
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Euphoria177013 said:
ktg said:
More like he was traumatized.

I agree, someone seeing their entire village slaughtered in front of them + more. I'm sure it would have an effect on how they open up and form new relationships.

I’d argue that it goes past trauma when it comes to the fixations and lack of social awareness
Dec 2, 2023 9:58 PM
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ah yes because autism is when you get massively traumatized

you're so smart
Dec 2, 2023 11:48 PM
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Man stop looking for representation in everything, it has ruined hollywood. Just enjoy the story.
Dec 3, 2023 12:31 AM
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That's not autism, but hyperfixation and obsession caused by rage and traumatic experience.
Sword Maiden also had a traumatic experience with goblins, but her response was with phobia, because she was personally subjected to it.
Goblin Slayer saw his own sister, whom he loved very much being murdered and reyped, while he was powerless to save her, so he responded with hatred.
Basic psychology.
Dec 3, 2023 6:50 AM
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That would be "brilliant" if it wasn't made up by you (or some Youtuber you like) and if it was actually canon^^
I would be down for a Comedy/Slice of Life version of Goblin Slayer, focusing on autism - mixed with some wholesomeness to learn about the condition.


In reality it's not that deep, tho.
It's just a Power Fantasy, pandering to more introverted people, who enjoy scenes with the MC learning some Social Skills or people who simply wanna watch some easy, mindless Goblin Slaying.
Merve2LoveDec 3, 2023 7:02 AM
Dec 3, 2023 7:09 AM

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Drizzy_Dan said:
Hands down the best thing about this show is the fact that Goblin Slayer is clearly autistic and, given the time period, no one around can tell and just thinks he’s kind of a weird, shy guy. It’s actually such a powerful piece of representation that anime, as a medium, may not have ever explored - even if done by accident.
The way that he begins to learn to pick up on social cues and care outwardly for others through immersion by being with his party is actually brilliant. I came for the gritty violence of the first episode but I stayed to see these characters develop and persevere!

You are trying to force a scenario that is not mentioned in the show.

Goblin Slayer just lacks all care about anything else except to rid the world of what killed his sister, which he feels and thinks was his own fault for not stopping them, which is in a way caused by the trauma of seeing his sister suffer, but this did not make him “autistic”.

In a way he is like Batman, but not rich, he is just as intelligent, but hyper focused on killing goblins.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

Dec 3, 2023 7:25 AM
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Goblin Slayer is autistic.

In episode 3, the Priestess has to explain the concept of a discussion to him. The administrators at the guild call him inscrutable, and say he’s not bothered by rudeness. He doesn’t always explain himself thoroughly, but he always explains himself clearly. He wields a direct and simple logic, with a vast knowledge of his work. And he spends all day, every day, obsessing over his special interest: slaying goblins

This isn’t mentioned at all in the anime. The anime pays a lot of attention to the effects of trauma, but the discipline of psychology isn’t exactly prominent in Goblin Slayer’s heavily D&D-inspired medieval fantasy world. Still, when you take a neurodivergent lens to watching the show, it’s inescapable. The distance put between autistic people and the rest of the world by lack of ability for physical expression is manifested directly before the viewer in the form of a helmet that hides Goblin Slayer’s face.

Anime isn’t always the best when it comes to representing diverse experiences and identities. And this is particularly unexpected in a show often accused of being rape porn, and which does have gratuitous breast shots. However, it’s authentic, and it’s easy to understand. There is something for neurotypicals to learn here.

I’m glad diversity and authenticity can exist in such unlikely places.
Dec 3, 2023 7:39 AM
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Daoooal said:
Goblin Slayer is autistic.

In episode 3, the Priestess has to explain the concept of a discussion to him. The administrators at the guild call him inscrutable, and say he’s not bothered by rudeness. He doesn’t always explain himself thoroughly, but he always explains himself clearly. He wields a direct and simple logic, with a vast knowledge of his work. And he spends all day, every day, obsessing over his special interest: slaying goblins

This isn’t mentioned at all in the anime. The anime pays a lot of attention to the effects of trauma, but the discipline of psychology isn’t exactly prominent in Goblin Slayer’s heavily D&D-inspired medieval fantasy world. Still, when you take a neurodivergent lens to watching the show, it’s inescapable. The distance put between autistic people and the rest of the world by lack of ability for physical expression is manifested directly before the viewer in the form of a helmet that hides Goblin Slayer’s face.

Anime isn’t always the best when it comes to representing diverse experiences and identities. And this is particularly unexpected in a show often accused of being rape porn, and which does have gratuitous breast shots. However, it’s authentic, and it’s easy to understand. There is something for neurotypicals to learn here.

I’m glad diversity and authenticity can exist in such unlikely places.

Thank you! It’s merely an interpretation!
Dec 3, 2023 7:41 AM
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Merve2Love said:
That would be "brilliant" if it wasn't made up by you (or some Youtuber you like) and if it was actually canon^^
I would be down for a Comedy/Slice of Life version of Goblin Slayer, focusing on autism - mixed with some wholesomeness to learn about the condition.


In reality it's not that deep, tho.
It's just a Power Fantasy, pandering to more introverted people, who enjoy scenes with the MC learning some Social Skills or people who simply wanna watch some easy, mindless Goblin Slaying.

I made it up for the record. Let it be known
Dec 3, 2023 9:58 AM
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"Souka"

@Drizzy_dan others also asked this as far back as 2018 from what I can tell. As I've watched this season, he also reminded me of Batman.

I think it brings up an interesting question about art. If an artist sets out to draw a cow but people see a zebra, what did the artist draw? It might seem silly in the context of skilled and mature artists, but same applies to a 4 year old. At what point do we change from saying "the artist drew what we see it as" to "the artist drew what they sought to draw"? (Or vice versa, of course.)

I think any art of any form consumed by others beyond the artist is subject to this question. I also think people simply saying it's one answer or the other at all times, while seeking a clean answer, undermine art's ability to highlight the complexity and messy nature of life and perspective.
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LucenProject said:
"Souka"

@Drizzy_dan others also asked this as far back as 2018 from what I can tell. As I've watched this season, he also reminded me of Batman.

I think it brings up an interesting question about art. If an artist sets out to draw a cow but people see a zebra, what did the artist draw? It might seem silly in the context of skilled and mature artists, but same applies to a 4 year old. At what point do we change from saying "the artist drew what we see it as" to "the artist drew what they sought to draw"? (Or vice versa, of course.)

I think any art of any form consumed by others beyond the artist is subject to this question. I also think people simply saying it's one answer or the other at all times, while seeking a clean answer, undermine art's ability to highlight the complexity and messy nature of life and perspective.

Now this is a beautiful response!

For the record, I’ll admit my post was only halfhearted when I thought of it and gained steam in my head while writing. It’s actually just an interpretation of Goblin Slayer’s personality and I doubt the author had any intention at all to represent autism. It’s just not that deep. But it’s the fact that the interpretation can be made here that sets this one apart.

Goblin Slayer’s character development as he opens up in general is really what’s beautiful about this.
Dec 3, 2023 10:41 AM
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ktg said:
More like he was traumatized.

The trauma from childhood is what caused the mental development indeed
@Drizzy_Dan That's not autism.
I'm not a psychologist, but what we are seeing here is more like a depression and PTSD combonation or something like that.
Dec 3, 2023 10:47 AM
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ktg said:
@Drizzy_Dan That's not autism.
I'm not a psychologist, but what we are seeing here is more like a depression and PTSD combonation or something like that.

I completely agree we’re seeing a man with post traumatic stress scarred for the rest of his life out of revenge and hatred for the goblins that caused it.

While it is known that childhood trauma does not cause autism, I think it’s presented itself in ways that can be seen as such.
Dec 3, 2023 1:42 PM

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I emphatically agree with you, but lamentable as it may be, don't expect much sympathy or much of a receptive audience here.

It definitely adds another layer or dimension to the series and the subjective experience of watching and going through it for me as well. As well as some intentional or unintentional hilarity in just seeing the way NTs, even those of other species like elves, are portrayed as reacting to ASD folk. One of the outright funniest scenes for me in all of anime comes from an episode of Goblin Slayer due to this dynamic being present.
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Dec 3, 2023 2:15 PM
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Drizzy_Dan said:
Hands down the best thing about this show is the fact that Goblin Slayer is clearly autistic and, given the time period, no one around can tell and just thinks he’s kind of a weird, shy guy. It’s actually such a powerful piece of representation that anime, as a medium, may not have ever explored - even if done by accident.
The way that he begins to learn to pick up on social cues and care outwardly for others through immersion by being with his party is actually brilliant. I came for the gritty violence of the first episode but I stayed to see these characters develop and persevere!

OK one goblin slayer is not autistic to just enjoy this story and stop worrying about stupid representation. That is just one of the many things that has been ruining Hollywood. Oh and one more thing fuck Disney fuck Hollywood.
Dec 3, 2023 4:31 PM
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sailaway30 said:
Drizzy_Dan said:
Hands down the best thing about this show is the fact that Goblin Slayer is clearly autistic and, given the time period, no one around can tell and just thinks he’s kind of a weird, shy guy. It’s actually such a powerful piece of representation that anime, as a medium, may not have ever explored - even if done by accident.
The way that he begins to learn to pick up on social cues and care outwardly for others through immersion by being with his party is actually brilliant. I came for the gritty violence of the first episode but I stayed to see these characters develop and persevere!

OK one goblin slayer is not autistic to just enjoy this story and stop worrying about stupid representation. That is just one of the many things that has been ruining Hollywood. Oh and one more thing fuck Disney fuck Hollywood.

Noted! Thank you for your well-thought out response!

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