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I'll start. I think the og Evangelion series is a pretty bad show. What about you guys?
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I think Madoka was boring and I don't like Shaft's quirky animation style.

And since you have Gintama in your favorites (just because this is a spicy thread and not because I'm trying to offend or anything), I think Gintama's story arcs (especially those belonging to the latter seasons) suck balls and Gintama the Final was terribly overrated. However I do really like Gintama when comedy is the focal point of the story. Gintama actually used to be my favorite anime.
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Mashle is not funny at all.

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Oct 11, 2023 7:09 PM
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Mashle is not funny at all.

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@Jonas-K Yeah, I liked mashle, but not because it was funny. Honestly comedy anime in general aren't usually funny to me.
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Oct 11, 2023 7:16 PM
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Ijiranaide Nagatoro San is one of the worst recent romcom.

@MadanielFL I've seen most people liking it and it was pretty well received to my knowledge. If that's not so then my bad..
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My hot take is that people don't know actual hot takes.

People ask for unpopular opinions and they will just say stuff like "One Piece is overrated" or whatever.

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Ijiranaide Nagatoro San is one of the worst recent romcom.
That's not a hot take, Nagatoro is pretty widely hated in the internet.
Oct 11, 2023 7:30 PM
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I think Madoka was boring and I don't like Shaft's quirky animation style.

And since you have Gintama in your favorites (just because this is a spicy thread and not because I'm trying to offend or anything), I think Gintama's story arcs (especially those belonging to the latter seasons) suck balls and Gintama the Final was terribly overrated. However I do really like Gintama when comedy is the focal point of the story. Gintama actually used to be my favorite anime.
@wizdom224 damn I feel like I've been shot lol. But I see where you're coming from. If you didn't like gintama's story then latter seasons definitely wouldn't be good
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Oct 11, 2023 7:35 PM
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My hot take is that people don't know actual hot takes.

People ask for unpopular opinions and they will just say stuff like "One Piece is overrated" or whatever.

Suryaaps said:
Ijiranaide Nagatoro San is one of the worst recent romcom.
That's not a hot take, Nagatoro is pretty widely hated in the internet.
@MadanielFL I'll hit you with another one then. I really liked fairy tail. It was the power of friendship at its best and that's exactly what I came for
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Oct 11, 2023 7:52 PM
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Anime does not exist solely to promote the source material. Sometimes they're adaptations for the sake of adaptation, as there's a lot more money to be made from merchandise (which is usually based primarily on the anime adaptation, not the source material) and Blu-Ray sales (if the anime is popular enough) than from the manga, light novel, or visual novel alone, and corporations care about profit above all else.

Also, you're right, Evangelion fucking sucks.
Oct 11, 2023 7:57 PM

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I'll hit you with another one then. I really liked fairy tail. It was the power of friendship at its best and that's exactly what I came for
Fairy Tail is a popular show, saying you liked it or disliked isn't a hot take.

Nobody thinks that's an unpopular opinion or a hot take.
Most people would just agree with you or they don't care at all.
Oct 11, 2023 8:02 PM

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BananaGod34 said:
I'll hit you with another one then. I really liked fairy tail. It was the power of friendship at its best and that's exactly what I came for
Fairy Tail is a popular show, saying you liked it or disliked isn't a hot take.

Nobody thinks that's an unpopular opinion or a hot take.
Most people would just agree with you or they don't care at all.
@MadanielFL I bet you're really fun at parties...
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Oct 11, 2023 8:17 PM

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@MadanielFL I bet you're really fun at parties...
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I bet you're really fun at parties...
Oh sorry for spoiling the party.

This is like the 100th thread I've seen on MAL telling people to list their hot takes, and 90% of it aren't hot takes at all...
Oct 11, 2023 8:23 PM

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I bet you're really fun at parties...
Oh sorry for spoiling the party.

This is like the 100th thread I've seen on MAL telling people to list their hot takes, and 90% of it aren't hot takes at all...
@MadanielFL ah ok my b. yeah that probably gets annoying. What about you though? What's one of yours? (Beside the hot take on hot takes lol)
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Oct 11, 2023 8:26 PM

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I have one that's pretty controversial

Kimetsu no Yaiba AKA The Demon Slayer is carried by the animation
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
Oct 11, 2023 8:52 PM

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-Byousoku 5 centimeter>Your name≒Suzume no Tojimari>Kotonoha no Niwa>Tenki no ko

-Hataraku Maou-sama! and Blue exorcist are kind of boring overall

-Monster and Ousama ranking's second half are kind of disappointing
Oct 11, 2023 9:08 PM

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I don't know, most of these threads are "popular series is bad" and "unpopular series is good", so I'll do the same.
Oct 11, 2023 9:14 PM

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I don't know, most of these threads are "popular series is bad" and "unpopular series is good", so I'll do the same.
@Ionliosite2 I mean, those are what hot takes are lol
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Oct 11, 2023 9:15 PM

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ah ok my b. yeah that probably gets annoying. What about you though? What's one of yours? (Beside the hot take on hot takes lol)
My hot take would be "anime piracy is bad" most people here on MAL would burn me for this.

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Ousama ranking's second half are kind of disappointing
Pretty much everyone agrees with that.
Oct 11, 2023 9:21 PM

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ah ok my b. yeah that probably gets annoying. What about you though? What's one of yours? (Beside the hot take on hot takes lol)
My hot take would be "anime piracy is bad" most people here on MAL would burn me for this.

takamono said:
Ousama ranking's second half are kind of disappointing
Pretty much everyone agrees with that.
@MadanielFL oooo interesting. how so?
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Oct 11, 2023 9:25 PM

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Code Geass is good, but overrated. Mob Psycho is a bad show with boring characters. Wonder Egg Priority is an amazing show and the the execution problems only really start in the final episode of the show (although the special ep was really mediocre). The original Fate/stay night by Deen is not that bad and people only say it is a bad show because they compare it to Ufotable's adaptations.
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@MadanielFL oooo interesting. how so?
Hardcore anime fans on MAL and on AniTwt who are anti-sjws and hates westerns and all their virtue signaling, are strongly against companies like Cr or Funi since they are "woke" or made up of "sjws"

And these are the type of people who listen to guys like Hero Hei and Rev, who are your classic anti-sjw "triggered feminist compilation" youtubers, the type of guys who build a career of covering twitter drama.
And also most people wants to feel good with themselves for pirating anime, so they will make a number of lists why they hate everything from dubs, official subs, streaming services, and everything that goes with them.

It's pretty much a never ending debate...
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I have one that's pretty controversial

Kimetsu no Yaiba AKA The Demon Slayer is carried by the animation
@Phosphophyllita Nah, the story and characters are better than in Steins;Gate, AOT and Vinland Saga.
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Oct 11, 2023 9:37 PM

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Mashle is not funny at all.

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@Jonas-K Imo, it's basically budget Saiki. Deadpan overpowered guy who just wants a normal life and is obsessed with some type of sweet. Just replace psychic powers with ridiculous strength and add less interesting side characters. It's ok for what it is, but I agree it's not that funny. Comedy in anime rarely is for me though.
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@MadanielFL I'll hit you with another one then. I really liked fairy tail. It was the power of friendship at its best and that's exactly what I came for
@BananaGod34 The first 51 episodes of fairy tail are peak shonen. a hot take would be if you still like fairy tail because buddy that shit's still goin.
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Tantei Opera Milky Holmes: Alternative / Futari wa Milky Holmes / Tantei Kageki Milky Holmes TD are much better than the main show.
Oct 11, 2023 9:50 PM

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Bocchi the Rock and Nichijou are boring.
Golden Time is mid.
JJK is mid.
Oct 11, 2023 9:54 PM

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@MadanielFL oooo interesting. how so?
Hardcore anime fans on MAL and on AniTwt who are anti-sjws and hates westerns and all their virtue signaling, are strongly against companies like Cr or Funi since they are "woke" or made up of "sjws"

And these are the type of people who listen to guys like Hero Hei and Rev, who are your classic anti-sjw "triggered feminist compilation" youtubers, the type of guys who build a career of covering twitter drama.
And also most people wants to feel good with themselves for pirating anime, so they will make a number of lists why they hate everything from dubs, official subs, streaming services, and everything that goes with them.

It's pretty much a never ending debate...
@MadanielFL Ah I see. Personally I'm of the mind that, while pirating isn't amazing, anime wouldn't be near as popular without it. International licensing is a pain in the ass, and anime would not have spread as far as it has today without pirating. Also, a lot of revenue streams are simply not pirate-able, like merchandise. Anime itself doesn't actually make a lot of money, but auxiliary avenues of revenue like merchandise and international licensing do, so I don't think piracy has the effect that some people think it does. So, while pirating isn't ideal, I wouldn't quite say that anime piracy is straight up bad.
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Oct 11, 2023 10:01 PM

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@BananaGod34 The first 51 episodes of fairy tail are peak shonen. a hot take would be if you still like fairy tail because buddy that shit's still goin.
@Curdiss I liked everything except achnologia and the final fight. That mf had no reason to exist other than to spark a time skip lol
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@Jonas-K Imo, it's basically budget Saiki. Deadpan overpowered guy who just wants a normal life and is obsessed with some type of sweet. Just replace psychic powers with ridiculous strength and add less interesting side characters. It's ok for what it is, but I agree it's not that funny. Comedy in anime rarely is for me though.
@FanofAction less interesting is an understatement. The best friend and the "love interest" don't do jack shit for 12 episodes lmao
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@Jonas-K Imo, it's basically budget Saiki. Deadpan overpowered guy who just wants a normal life and is obsessed with some type of sweet. Just replace psychic powers with ridiculous strength and add less interesting side characters. It's ok for what it is, but I agree it's not that funny. Comedy in anime rarely is for me though.
@FanofAction My problem with Mashle is that it's a comedy anime that didn't make me laugh at a single scene, even a stupid anime like Boku to Roboko can be 100x funnier, at least for me obviously. (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)
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So, while pirating isn't ideal, I wouldn't quite say that anime piracy is straight up bad.
I don't think piracy is something that's really bad and will ruin anime.

More like, it isn't as good as some people make it out to be.
Some people say you have "a moral obligation to pirate anime" because anime licensors are "evil"
Others just say it is better than legal services, and I fail to see how besides the whole library thing.
They say it has better subs, when in reality pirate sites have for the most part, the exact same subs as legal sites.
They also claim it has "better quality", when the video quality is the exact same if not a little worse on pirate sites.

And saying that it helped make anime popular is true, but this isn't 2001 anymore.
In the past, there simply was no way to watch the shows legally, but now pretty much every new popular show is licensed globally.
Pirating may have helped get anime popular in the past, but now anime gets popular from people sharing it on social media and so on...
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@Curdiss I liked everything except achnologia and the final fight. That mf had no reason to exist other than to spark a time skip lol
@BananaGod34 Not only was achnologia pointless he wasn't even as strong as he said he was. oh and key of the starry skies made me want to rip out my eyeballs. I can't believe i'm trapped in this fandom until 100 year quest is over.
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I hate Horimiya with a burning passion. If I could go inside of the show and hit Hori Kyouko with my car, I would. That's all I'm going to say.
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@FanofAction My problem with Mashle is that it's a comedy anime that didn't make me laugh at a single scene, even a stupid anime like Boku to Roboko can be 100x funnier, at least for me obviously. (⁠◔⁠‿⁠◔⁠)
@Jonas-K I'm only a few episodes in, so I can't say for sure I wont get a good laugh, but at the very least I'm not bored yet. I might not bother with season 2 though.
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Is it hot take or not? Idk, but I will defend the "12 ep 1 cour" anime release model until the end of time. Yes, there're times where I wish there's a least 24 eps or more, yes, sometimes it just feel like it's just a high budget ad for its source. But I think benefit out weight more and I will defend that.
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Cowboy Bebop along with Anohana are the most boring shows I’ve watched, I would put the Original Hellsing here too but it wouldn’t be much of a hot take from what I’ve seen.

Aizen is an overrated villain, I laughed when I found out his “all apart of my plan” scene ended up being a pseudo-recap episode.
Oct 11, 2023 10:31 PM

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BananaGod34 said:
So, while pirating isn't ideal, I wouldn't quite say that anime piracy is straight up bad.
I don't think piracy is something that's really bad and will ruin anime.

More like, it isn't as good as some people make it out to be.
Some people say you have "a moral obligation to pirate anime" because anime licensors are "evil"
Others just say it is better than legal services, and I fail to see how besides the whole library thing.
They say it has better subs, when in reality pirate sites have for the most part, the exact same subs as legal sites.
They also claim it has "better quality", when the video quality is the exact same if not a little worse on pirate sites.

And saying that it helped make anime popular is true, but this isn't 2001 anymore.
In the past, there simply was no way to watch the shows legally, but now pretty much every new popular show is licensed globally.
Pirating may have helped get anime popular in the past, but now anime gets popular from people sharing it on social media and so on...
@MadanielFL Yeah, piracy definitely isn't god's gift to human kind lol. Although it isn't 2001 anymore, there are different problems now. Although the U.S. and Canada are pretty free from licensing restrictions, the rest of the world isn't so lucky. Countries like South Korea, Singapore, and India have access to only a fraction of the content that the U.S. has access to. The rest of the world is also affected by said licensing restrictions (albeit not as bad as the countries I listed). So, while yes big anime are largely licensed globally, it can still be a pretty shallow selection. It's like the difference between a walmart-brand inflatable pool vs a giant 12ft community pool. You can swim in both yes, but you are going to hit the bottom much sooner in the walmart brand content pool. That's not even getting in to the fact that anime has become a part of the streaming conflict, as even streaming services like Disney Plus have begun dabbling in anime, gaining exclusivity rights to certain shows. So yeah, anime definitely doesn't rely on piracy for popularity anymore, but there are still other problems.
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instead of saying it's a bad show, it is boring, it is mid, it is shit, it sucks etc.. try thinking of it as that it is just not for you. you don't get its appeal and you don't find it fun or relatable in any way. the issue isn't with the show it is with you. you cannot understand the show and it is not targeted towards people like you. it doesn't interest you.

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instead of saying it's a bad show, it is boring, it is mid, it is shit, it sucks etc.. try thinking of it as that it is just not for you. you don't get its appeal and you don't find it fun or relatable in any way. the issue isn't with the show it is with you. you cannot understand the show and it is not targeted towards people like you. it doesn't interest you.
@TsutanaiFuun Naw. You can understand a show and why others might like it and still find it bad or boring. It not being for you specifically doesn't mean you can't criticize it. That just sounds like the mindset of someone who can't accept others don't like what they like.
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@TsutanaiFuun Naw. You can understand a show and why others might like it and still find it bad or boring. It not being for you specifically doesn't mean you can't criticize it. That just sounds like the mindset of someone who can't accept others don't like what they like.
@FanofAction what i said above can be applied to most of the people and what you're saying is correct and i agree with that. but when you look at people hating most of the time they are hating on something that they don't understand or aren't even interested in that genre.

what i said in my earlier post doesn't apply to criticism, proper objective opinion about how an anime is. it applies to the people who just blindly hate something without even knowing what it is about or what kind of people it is targeted towards.

and why others might like it and still find it bad or boring
exactly which could mean it is not targeted towards you and not relatable to you. that doesn't make the show bad just makes it unsuitable for you to watch and enjoy it. like i didn't like banana fish that doesn't mean it is a bad show, many others liked it. this just means it wasn't for me.
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"What are your anime hot takes?"

I have one - there's a whole universe of anime shows beyond those 50 most popular that people only keep talking about. Even if those 50 are the best for you, there are thousand more worth of discussing about.
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My hot take is that Bleach is miles apart in quality from Naruto and One Piece. The take wasn't so hot before TYBW came out, but now people worship it. I also think people love it because it is mainstream to do so, instead of just thinking that it is actually good.
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@FanofAction what i said above can be applied to most of the people and what you're saying is correct and i agree with that. but when you look at people hating most of the time they are hating on something that they don't understand or aren't even interested in that genre.

what i said in my earlier post doesn't apply to criticism, proper objective opinion about how an anime is. it applies to the people who just blindly hate something without even knowing what it is about or what kind of people it is targeted towards.

and why others might like it and still find it bad or boring
exactly which could mean it is not targeted towards you and not relatable to you. that doesn't make the show bad just makes it unsuitable for you to watch and enjoy it. like i didn't like banana fish that doesn't mean it is a bad show, many others liked it. this just means it wasn't for me.
@TsutanaiFuun Ok, I can agree people blindly hating things is an issue that pops up way too often. Ideally people would have to explain why they don't like something with actual thought, but that isn't enforcable.
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@TsutanaiFuun Naw. You can understand a show and why others might like it and still find it bad or boring. It not being for you specifically doesn't mean you can't criticize it. That just sounds like the mindset of someone who can't accept others don't like what they like.
@FanofAction nah that was their hot take lmao

again, idk whats considered a hot take (these probably arent), im not all that into anime. so heres my few

- horimiya is the most overrated shit. the show's okay, but it gets so much more praise than shows i think are better. but i guess thats subjective
- howl's moving castle is pretty boring
- psycho pass is excellent all the way through
- romcom has gone down the same path as isekai. this one you could probably change my mind on, but many romcom anime use the same tropes, plotlines, ideas; in the same way that isekai uses similar themes and tropes over and over again. romcoms seem to be created to appease the teenage boy with what a teenage boy would consider an 'ideal girl' or an ideal relationship. this is understandable, obviously because the anime audience is mostly teenage boys. but it leads to repetitiveness across seasons. though i think shojo/josei romance is quite good, or at least different from what the market is saturated with, which is why i enjoy it more.
- erased has probably one of the best endings to an anime ive ever seen. i hate how people shit on it because the ending doesnt end with a romantic relationship between the mc and the person he saved. you dont need to get into a relationship with someone who saved your life, that sounds like the most idealistic shit ever lmao. maybe im missing something
- in general, if an anime/manga doesnt end on the same standard of quality compared to the rest of the story, it doesnt always take away from the fact that the overall story was still fantastic. i saw this issue with aot and solo leveling. its strange to think that people praised aot as a masterpiece or one of the greatest, but once the ending came out, people began hating on aot as if season 1-3 wasnt top tier.

if i had to give an issue about the anime industry, or anime in general, that could be considered a hot take, id say this. again, dunno if it is, but im not that deep into anime or its culture.

the anime industry is oversaturated with hot garbage. there should be a lot less anime in a season, but the animes should be higher quality.
anime is also an immature medium; immature not in a bad way, but in a way that can hinder the full experience of a story. i felt this when i was watching vinland saga season 2. the show's message and themes were so mature, it felt like having a story like that animated just wasnt doing it justice. obviously when it comes to fights or fantasy, animation allows you to do things you wouldnt be able to create irl. but some shows are so mature that i think the animation medium holds them back. id say this applies for vinland saga, psycho pass, maybe 86 and from the new world as well. but this also creates another problem. i feel like stories sometimes have to be simplified to cater to a younger audience. theres a lot of great ideas or premises out there, but since the medium is anime, the story doesn't come out as mature as it can be, especially when it comes to really complex, or just dark stuff. akame ga kill is a somewhat good example of this. the idea of a resistance group taking down a corrupt government is an interesting premise, and the show had potential. but the anime seems so childish, as if its a dumbed down version of what it could be.

yeah, again, idk if its a hot take. so shit on me all you want if it isnt
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My hot take is: Kaibutsu > Yuusha >>> Idol
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@BananaGod34 Well, yeah, I guess.

Then mine are Monster is dogshit and Kanojo Okarishimasu is very good all around.
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Jojo is overrated and every dating sim anime adaptation like clannad, kanon etc etc I've watched is bad. I don't know about the original games as I never played any.

I also found evangelion a bit boring but I won't say it's bad.
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lol the CR shill here as usual. Anyway, ecchi is as good as any other genre, paying $60-90 for anime DVD is stupid, "chad" main characters in harem are as boring as the so called "beta" characters people screech about, and lastly, gore and killing off half the main cast doesn't make an anime "mature".
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My hot take is: Kaibutsu > Yuusha >>> Idol
@Nirinbo kaibutsu > idol > yuusha for me
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-Byousoku 5 centimeter>Your name≒Suzume no Tojimari>Kotonoha no Niwa>Tenki no ko

-Hataraku Maou-sama! and Blue exorcist are kind of boring overall

-Monster and Ousama ranking's second half are kind of disappointing
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Byousoku 5 centimeter>Your name≒Suzume no Tojimari>Kotonoha no Niwa>Tenki no ko
haven't watched suzume yet but I really agree with everything else.

Tenki no ko was the worst makoto shinkai movie I watched. I've watched every other except suzume
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