Jujutsu Kaisen Chapter 236 Discussion

Whao, that sucks, explanation sounds like cheap try to give some logic stuff but any OP chara needs some of that

That CSM dude lol

Wow, this part really took the cake of being the manga's most controversial chapter (yet).

After thinking over the events of the battle, I'd thought: how much of the characters' claims can we take at face-value? Before the fight began in the first place, Gojo tells Kenjaku he doesn't expect to lose to Sukuna. However, when he meets Geto in the afterlife, he tells him he wasn't sure about winning. I also don't think the claims made between Yuuji and the others are 100% reliable. They get surprised when Gojo and Sukuna come up with new counterattack or use a cursed energy in an unthinkable way. Not all the time, but the moments are there when Sukuna or Gojo explains what they're doing out loud. Kusakabe mentioned, they're capable of doing the impossible, which makes sense because they're two highly strong cursed sorcerers facing off each other. Both of them are highly smart, especially Sukuna, and are capable of evolving their abilities while fighting. In the same vein, Kusakabe says Gojo wins from the previous chapter. Yeah... I don't know about that chief. Like them, we, as the readers, are also spectators of the battle, watching it unfold. We don't have the full picture of their abilities.

I was upset about how Gojo died. It's one of the biggest fights, he comes back after a long-ass time, and goes down like that? Like... geez, no grand death scene for one of the strongest sorcerers of all time.

Going back to Gojo telling Geto he wasn't confident enough to win against Sukuna; I believe Geto is one of the very few people Gojo could actually be vulnerable with about himself. Although Yuuji and the others were aware of the possibility of him losing, I'm sure everyone was banking on him to beat Sukuna, somehow. Gojo's seen as the strongest by pretty much everyone in their world, and he's highly aware of that. Up until Sukuna, no one felt challenging for him. He might've been highly overconfident because of his image and said what he said. With Gojo, I'm at least glad to see there is at least some semblance of happiness for him. The world for jujutsu sorcerers is cruel; no one is spared from its sufferings as they continue to live in it.

If you do not like JJK, what are you doing here? participate in the forums of the series you like. I find CSM and Boring Saga, really boring, and I do not write in those forums, because it has no sense. In fact, this thread is to discuss about the 236 chapter, it is clear that this chapter is controversial. I still do not accept what the author did to Satoru : (

Let me explain to the people who didn’t understand this chapter and are screaming “asspull”.

In chapter 224, Sukuna throws a Dismantle at Gojo which provokes a surprised expression from him. From this we can deduce that Gojo can “detect” Sukuna slash but he cannot “see” it. However, in chapter 118, Sukuna stated that Mahoraga could “see” his slash. This also means that Mahoraga could “see” Infinity or rather space itself.
Then we go to chapter 234 where Mahoraga performs a slash similar to Sukuna’s. This means that either Sukuna passed down his technique to Mahoraga or Mahoraga can use the technique it has adapted to. Either way, Mahoraga bypasses Infinity.

In this chapter 236, Sukuna explains how Mahoraga’s adaptation works. Mahoraga changes its Cursed Energy to fit the Cursed Technique it has adapted to making it immune. This is testified when Gojo blows himself up in chapter 235 and takes minimal damage. Mahoraga also uses this principle to his attacks and neutralizes infinity.
Mahoraga expands the slash to target space hence cutting right through it. Space isn’t something someone can see but Mahoraga can. Being able to see space means it can target space with the slash and Sukuna copies this.

Sukuna has already been shown to be able to perform any type of Cursed Energy manipulation or even basic or advanced techniques like him being able to turn himself into a cursed object by just seeing the process once. He “saw” how Mahoraga performed the attack and learned to cut space.

In chapter 235, Kusakabe declared the victory and not the Author. Sukuna was half dead, his output was growing weak and Mahoraga was out of the game either destroyed or unsummoned and he had no way or attack to bypass Gojo’s Infinity(or at least they thought so). Everyone thought it was over and that Gojo had won, even Gojo thought so. Gojo was also focusing on healing himself with his restored output. Gojo’s guard was down.

Remember how I said that Gojo could “detect” and not “see” the slashes? Well Gojo’s guard was down and he was most likely not even reinforcing himself with cursed energy. His focus was also divided in healing himself and feeling relieved that he “won”. And that is when Sukuna performed it silently. A cut that targets space, the world, itself. Infinity manipulates space but Sukuna has now cut through it. It was game over.

Not to mention that Dismantle requires very little cursed energy and doesn’t need to charge up because if he had to Gojo would detect it and dodge.

It was instantaneous. In the previous chapter I quoted Reggie’s line of how a sorcerer’s lie determines their victory. Gojo tricked Sukuna and performed a Purple which was his winning condition, however, Sukuna also had a lie, a trick, up his sleeve. As a sorcerer Sukuna proved himself better and his lie or having no more cards up his sleeves determined and solidified his victory.

There were zero asspulls. Everything here can be explained by things that were introduced in previous chapters. Everyone is just mad that the “good guys” are losing.
Something which doesn’t happen in almost any anime.

Overall, this fight was… in Biscuit Oliver’s words. Beautiful~

@Maumuu controversial? Please, the hate on this chapter is justified, and it shows that Gege's writing is nothing but mid, only drawing a non-stop flashy generic battle Shonen and its choreography are his good at.

edit btw: NOBARA IS ALIVE(she wasnt in afterlife)

1st and foremost.... PLEASE DONT BE TOXIC AGAINST THE MANGAKA UNLESS U WANT ANOTHER ENDING LIKE AOT...

2ndly
what was all that about gojo dad??

3rdly....infinity works upon the principeles of calcalus like how in limits the closer u come to thing the farthe away it is....so y does it matter if even the world is slashed?? infinity makes every attack slow.... IT DOESNT STOPS IT...
so some1 explain that plzz..... as for chap

gege u fucking monster ...i hate this i hate this guy and love him so much at the same time...he doesnt care about fan that much was clear from shibuya he has a story to tell and that he will without care of the world