| The 90's Berserk adaptation is leagues above the manga. It is a coherent and self contained story with an actual structure, which doesn't devolve over time into self-defeating teenage edgelord pandering and actually justifies its imagery, unlike the manga not long after the Golden Age arc. It seems to me when people praise the Berserk manga they forget that the Millennium Falcon arc and the Fantasia arc take up half of the manga, and are both completely redundant in adding any value to the story. They are bloated and meandering, just like most long running manga are, and ruin the integrity and flow of the narrative. Reminder: we were denied an actual conclusion to what could have been a phenomenal story because audiences tolerated this. I could see an argument for the Conviction arc being worthwhile, a lot of iconic moments come from it and I personally enjoyed it on my first read-through but it's something I see less value in as time goes on. For the sake of the argument I'm willing to concede it's not that bad. |
TibetanJazz666Aug 14, 2023 1:14 AM
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| i guess no one's brave enough to take responsibility for adapting it these days as it's a highly loved manga and people would go absolute bonkers if it is not adapted properly. i'm not aware about the past adaptations but i've heard that they weren't good. berserk adaptation can indeed be one of the best animes ever if made properly with love and passion. i hope wit studio thinks about it. it will be better if it collaborates with other studios too. |
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TibetanJazz666 said: The 90's Berserk adaptation is leagues above the manga Lol no, not even close, it wouldn't be a thing without the manga in the first place so don't treat it like some original work which got adapted manga with some continuation later on, that's just lame, and as an adaptation it's better than the rest ONLY for adapting most of the Golden Age arc in details (and fully in 2D if that matters and I think it does) but is average at best with a boring atmosphere and with a shit ending, Advent movie is easily miles ahead of it simply because of adapting the ending perfectly well and successfully capturing the horror and creepiness of the entire event. |
| The top and most popular SHONEN and especially Shonen Jump and mostly battle shonen manga get top of the line anime adaptations as they easily sell like hot cakes. Berserk is seinen manga, although storywise it becomes a semi-shonen later on, it is still a seinen one, seinen manga rarely get such adaptations, and I think the reasons are obvious, I'm not the expert but I think studios just don't want to risk it. Berserk happens to be too gore-ish which could be one of many reasons why it's avoided. Berserk art isn't easy to translate into anime, especially 2D, especially in our modern era, going 2.5D or 3D would be the option but people wouldn't like that, they tried before and didn't work that well. Berserk would require a huge budget and time and with it being a seinen one full of gore and nudity they'll have to either tone it down or air it late at night which I think would be bad for views, Idk, but anyways it will most likely result in a loss no studio wants to bother risking. And is Berserk REALLY that popular in Japan? To the point it would push studios to seriously consider it? I doubt it. This are few reasons I could think of. Going for a western live action adaptation would probably work for the best in all seriousness. But I still which one day we will get that one wonderful adaptation that would make drool at the TV at every single bit of it, I can only imagine... |
TheBerserkerAug 14, 2023 4:27 AM
| Because Studios hate Seinen that is why the Best Seinen Mangas get either condensed adaptations or straight garbage CGI adaptations While Mediocre Seinen like Midland Saga gets best adaptation |
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| I haven't read it but it looks like something HBO can handle better than most anime studios. |
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| If you want an excellent adaptation of a manga to anime, a high budget and highly skilled animators, directors and voice actors are required. This isn’t cheap. |
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| There are many other historical seinens in the market already and the fantasy genre is saturated with isekais. So a fantasy seinen won't really do that well Theo1899 said: I haven't read it but it looks like something HBO can handle better than most anime studios. Honestly no They could do well with series like monster and vagabond which are more grounded in reality rather than something like berserk where the mc goes full sicko mode later on Those fuckers supposedly didn't have enough budget for the direwolves in got so they reduced their appearances and their relevance to the plot (in the books all stark children are wargs not just bran) |
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| There are probably multiple reasons because of it, the one I can quickly pointing out on top of my head is that it's hard to adapt something like Berserk, not just because of the art alone but its dark themes and story won't sell well nowadays so it's pointless to spend a lot of work and talent to something that it's not guaranteed to succeed |
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Za_Panda said: Theo1899 said: I haven't read it but it looks like something HBO can handle better than most anime studios. Honestly no They could do well with series like monster and vagabond which are more grounded in reality rather than something like berserk where the mc goes full sicko mode later on Those fuckers supposedly didn't have enough budget for the direwolves in got so they reduced their appearances and their relevance to the plot (in the books all stark children are wargs not just bran) Since we are talking about Game of Thrones, there was a (very) visible increase in production quality after S4 aired. Also Westworld, another very expensive looking show was coming out during that time so I still think HBO can take on a production like this. Apple TV and Amazon have also been producing some very expensive looking shit so I believe TV is ready. |
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| My theory is simply because of Guts himself. He doesn't look marketable and was penned at the tail-end of wild frontier days of dark, violent and cooky era of OVAs. If Berserk was published in the same year as Hokuto No Ken it would've been a no brainer for the manga to get a proper adaptation albeit in a poorly drawn, long-running 80s shows fashion. So back to character presentation in today's dark, violent yet very popular shows, the main protagonists look marketable and appeal to wide audience; not overly masculine, have some feminine features/pretty boy looking. Guts simply stand no chance against these gory nyan nyan tomgirls. |
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IMortaI said: I guess you've never heard of Phoenix or The Promised Neverland or X.Usually the top and most popular manga(s) have good or decent anime adaptation. |
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| It literally doesn't? It's not trash just because it's not as good as arguably the greatest manga. It has an 8.31 weighted rating on Anidb. |
LostSpectreAug 14, 2023 10:59 AM
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| You see, anime is designed as an advertisement for manga. The anime was purposely shitty so that more people would just pick up the manga |
| I could ask the same about Blade of the Immortal and Gantz. :( |
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The 97 anime is very good, its biggest sin is that it ended without completing the eclipse part. |
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| The 97 adaptation is a masterpiece in its own right. |
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| Its adaption seemed good to me. The 21st century stuff doesn't work so well, but if it weren't highly popular you wouldn't be getting that at all. |
| Who knows... they couldn't even be bothered to make something new for the "memorial edition". |
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| I remember this original adaptation left me in shock when I finished it. It's the only 10 I have given. So you know that one is good at least. It's been such a long time since I watched it though. |
| 1997 was the perfect adaption idk how they fumbled it so hard, an anime created 20 years prior was 1000x better than one created with the technology we have to today |
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| the manga is too dark for modern anime audience, plus its way too long to adapt now, AND it will never have a conclusion. there is no point in advertising the manga anymore with an anime, its past its peak |
| The 1997 adaptation is great, and from what I hear adapts the best part of the manga (I won't start the manga til it ends). I actually don't think the 2016 version is awful. Yes its low budget but in terms of CGI its leagues beyond the stuff Polygon Pictures put out as there actually is a bit of style to the animation. Adapting Berserk at this point would be long and costly as the source material is so big, I'm guessing studios would rather invest in more modern and manageable manga adaptations. Also in a world where anime is made to promote manga I assume they believe a 30 year old manga already has an audience locked in and there isn't much room for growth. |
| Kingdom is a more popular seinen in Japan than berserk. And a lot of CGDCT seinen manga are more popular than berserk. |
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