i dont get the hate at all

Oct 30, 2022 6:07 AM

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Can’t say much but isn’t it because of the plot armor aspect of the show?

Oct 30, 2022 6:10 AM

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I loved Steins Gate 0 too, but I still prefer the original more since I feel like 0 has a few more episodes where nothing really happens in it. So it's lows are lower than S;G, but it's highs are just as high imo

Oct 30, 2022 6:12 AM

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I really liked it to, but it might be because I'm no SG fanboy.

Oct 30, 2022 6:13 AM

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Asphiee said:
Can’t say much but isn’t it because of the plot armor aspect of the show?

there's no plot armor seen around even tho some action scenes be absurd a bit

Oct 30, 2022 6:15 AM

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attidzh said:
I loved Steins Gate 0 too, but I still prefer the original more since I feel like 0 has a few more episodes where nothing really happens in it. So it's lows are lower than S;G, but it's highs are just as high imo

the slice of life stuff were a part on their own but it didnt real bother me in both sides, i like em equally through all their halves, i also even seen people call og steins gate first half boring which is wrong

Oct 30, 2022 6:16 AM

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i watched steins gate episode 1 to 21 then 23beta than Steins gate 0 then rest of Steins gate, therefore i love both equally

Oct 30, 2022 6:17 AM

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Piromysl said:
I really liked it to, but it might be because I'm no SG fanboy.

im a huge ass dickrider to the point i even play the darling embrace game but i still like 0 equally with og lmfao

Oct 30, 2022 6:18 AM

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I mean the lack of plot armor. As I’ve remembered, Kurisu rescue op was still hopeless right because of the timeline thingy? I guess audiences hoped for a happy ending because they’ve developed an emotional connection with the heroine (i.e simping).

I can’t call it hate rather the appropriate word is...what’s the word...”overly sentimental”?

It’s been years I’ve watched it, so yes I’d need a proper correction if ever I’m spouting nonsense.

Oct 30, 2022 6:20 AM

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but over all it was still the best. it was one of the anime I couldn't get enough.

Oct 30, 2022 6:21 AM

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Rajatsanatani said:
i watched steins gate episode 1 to 21 then 23beta than Steins gate 0 then rest of Steins gate, therefore i love both equally

facts i eventually did the same and it enhanced the experience

Oct 30, 2022 6:22 AM

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sensorika01 said:
but over all it was still the best. it was one of the anime I couldn't get enough.

fr even the visual novel extras aint enough smfh

Oct 30, 2022 6:26 AM

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sure it is👍 at first I though it wasn't that good but after watching it shit. I wish there's another sequel

Oct 30, 2022 6:26 AM

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slenderblak said:

attidzh said:
I loved Steins Gate 0 too, but I still prefer the original more since I feel like 0 has a few more episodes where nothing really happens in it. So it's lows are lower than S;G, but it's highs are just as high imo

the slice of life stuff were a part on their own but it didnt real bother me in both sides, i like em equally through all their halves, i also even seen people call og steins gate first half boring which is wrong

I enjoy slice of life animes so I did enjoy the first half of S;G , but at least the episodes did progress the plot a fair bit in them and hinted and foreshadowed the dangers of manipulating with time. But like what was the point in that one episode of 0 where they just cleaned up Maho's room, or when Suzuha made Daru try to be a Chad. Just overall Steins;Gate 0 episodes often went up and down with the middle fifth of the series where nothing really happens whilst with Steins Gate the slow part is only for a little at the very start

Oct 30, 2022 6:29 AM

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slenderblak said:

sensorika01 said:
but over all it was still the best. it was one of the anime I couldn't get enough.

fr even the visual novel extras aint enough smfh

i will literally watch a slice of life series on their after adventure 🥺, i love Steins gate so much 💖

Oct 30, 2022 6:39 AM

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I like steins gate 0 as much as i like steins gate Steins gate 0 has different versions of same character and i honestly love it for that reason

Oct 30, 2022 6:41 AM

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attidzh said:

slenderblak said:

the slice of life stuff were a part on their own but it didnt real bother me in both sides, i like em equally through all their halves, i also even seen people call og steins gate first half boring which is wrong

I enjoy slice of life animes so I did enjoy the first half of S;G , but at least the episodes did progress the plot a fair bit in them and hinted and foreshadowed the dangers of manipulating with time. But like what was the point in that one episode of 0 where they just cleaned up Maho's room, or when Suzuha made Daru try to be a Chad. Just overall Steins;Gate 0 episodes often went up and down with the middle fifth of the series where nothing really happens whilst with Steins Gate the slow part is only for a little at the very start

tbh the suzuha trying to make daru a chad was funny and i appreciated the epsiode well for that, idk about maho its just odd funny for some reasons

Oct 30, 2022 6:47 AM

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Like others have said, watching it all at once (original plus the alternate episode plus zero) all at once really enhances the experience as opposed to watching the original years ago, being loaded with nostalgia, and then watching zero. I’m a huge S;G fanboy and I like both!

Oct 30, 2022 7:36 AM

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Been a little while since I watched them both, from what I remember 0 had a lot more comedy that didn’t exactly hit with me, lessened the stakes some. Given it tries to be a dark what if scenario, they didn’t mesh well imo.

Oct 30, 2022 8:16 AM

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SaMMy17BST said:
Been a little while since I watched them both, from what I remember 0 had a lot more comedy that didn’t exactly hit with me, lessened the stakes some. Given it tries to be a dark what if scenario, they didn’t mesh well imo.

i dont think it be a what if scenario and more like how okabe came up with the arclight mission to send the dmail to the past, which was a great addition imo btw W MF DOOM pfp

Oct 30, 2022 8:18 AM

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I have mixed feelings about it, felt kinda unnecessary; not bad tho, just a bit pale compared to the og

it actually is pretty necessary considering it gave more context on the okabe who sent the dmail to the older one, even tho in the middle they kinda added fanservice stuff it continued beautifully after

Oct 30, 2022 8:57 AM

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slenderblak said:
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Rajatsanatani said:
i watched steins gate episode 1 to 21 then 23beta than Steins gate 0 then rest of Steins gate, therefore i love both equally

facts i eventually did the same and it enhanced the experience

I also did this :)

I view S;G0 together with the original, so I like them both, though they do each have a different feel to each other.

Oct 30, 2022 9:03 AM

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I never remembered someone hating this, more like the opposite.

It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.

Oct 30, 2022 9:48 AM

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It was good, but it didn't quite live up to Stiens;gate for me. I didn't like most of the new characters as much as the original. I didn't like the romance between Mayuri and Okabe. In the first series they just felt like really close friends, much more closer to a brother sister relationship. I probably misinterpreted it, but it did make me not like 0.

The ending was fucking awesome though.

Oct 30, 2022 10:15 AM

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toxispice said:
It was good, but it didn't quite live up to Stiens;gate for me. I didn't like most of the new characters as much as the original. I didn't like the romance between Mayuri and Okabe. In the first series they just felt like really close friends, much more closer to a brother sister relationship. I probably misinterpreted it, but it did make me not like 0.

The ending was fucking awesome though.

idk if you interpreted the mayushi letter as a real love letter or not but there was no romance between them, mayushi didnt want to see okabe suffer anymore and it hurt her so much that the old hououin kyouma is gone leaving a depressed person and since she heard about the truth she wanted herself to be of use and bring back the real okabe by doing what must be done, the care between them is strong and i appreciated it alot, about the other characters maho was fine and atleast had a personality on her own, kagari tho i give you that she's a plot device

Oct 30, 2022 11:52 AM

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its been a while since i watched the anime but by plot armour is it referring to some of the more action-based scenes that just occur but are disrupted by some other characters?

there was that one scene where some soldiers raid okabe's laboratory apartment (much like how SERN did in the og series) before they all just ran because the landlord came to defend his daughter and then another where okabe, haru and hiyajo just get caught by some random foreigners in an alleyway before some other foreigners come in and break some laptop they had, but then again sometimes plot armour might not be as obvious unless if youre paying attention to it so its probably subjective

could it also be because of how random kagari was as a character in the story considering that she somehow had assassination skills that none of the other characters had during one of the last episodes to a point where its even more unrealistic than how most physical fights were in the series in general lol

idk if any of this is wrong because ive only binged the anime once in less than half a week (much like most other animes i watch pretty much) so feel free to correct me if i got some information wrong

Oct 30, 2022 12:16 PM

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i remember SG0 actually getting positive reviews, i confusion

Oct 30, 2022 12:52 PM

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I really liked this too. When I found out about the hate I figured it was just Kurisu fans because this part focuses a lot more on Mayuri.

Oct 30, 2022 2:26 PM

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SG 0 to me is like the sequel no one asked for but they somehow made it just as good

Oct 30, 2022 2:31 PM

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I don't think it was as good as its predecessor. It was a cool concept but no one wants a sad and gloomy Okabe.

𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶

Oct 30, 2022 5:21 PM

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yeah it's a masterpiece

Oct 30, 2022 8:23 PM

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Rajatsanatani said:
i watched steins gate episode 1 to 21 then 23beta than Steins gate 0 then rest of Steins gate, therefore i love both equally

same, best way to watch it

Oct 30, 2022 8:39 PM

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Seems like I'm the only one who didn't like 0.

First, S;G is more than a favorite series to me, so I'd love to see more of what I loved with the same cast and all that stuff.

But after a few episodes, the harsh slap of reality made me realize this is not S;G. LBP also has a different approach to S;G, and you can still get that S;G feel from this.

But 0 doesn't feel like anything. I liked the loli girl and how they gave some space to our girl Mayushi, but no one in 0 is a lab member. Everyone is just an empty shell of their former past.

0 wasn't fun to watch, and I guess the "who taught the song" episode wraps everything up nicely: Every character in 0 is running circles with decisions and story elements that are painfully dumb and alien to the series' atmosphere.

There's no balance between comedy and drama in the show, either. Not only does it fall flat on the comedy side, but the show also doesn't know when to use the comedy trigger to lighten up the situation.

The entire thing to me felt like a cheap adaptation of a loose idea that didn't have enough potential in the first place

Oct 30, 2022 9:57 PM

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Wait, there is hate?

Oct 31, 2022 7:05 AM

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Mohireza said:
Seems like I'm the only one who didn't like 0.

First, S;G is more than a favorite series to me, so I'd love to see more of what I loved with the same cast and all that stuff.

But after a few episodes, the harsh slap of reality made me realize this is not S;G. LBP also has a different approach to S;G, and you can still get that S;G feel from this.

But 0 doesn't feel like anything. I liked the loli girl and how they gave some space to our girl Mayushi, but no one in 0 is a lab member. Everyone is just an empty shell of their former past.

0 wasn't fun to watch, and I guess the "who taught the song" episode wraps everything up nicely: Every character in 0 is running circles with decisions and story elements that are painfully dumb and alien to the series' atmosphere.

There's no balance between comedy and drama in the show, either. Not only does it fall flat on the comedy side, but the show also doesn't know when to use the comedy trigger to lighten up the situation.

The entire thing to me felt like a cheap adaptation of a loose idea that didn't have enough potential in the first place

As someone who still enjoyed Steins Gate 0, I very much agree with your points.

The original (due to a strong source AND a strong team for the adaptation) knew how to balance drama and comedy. They failed in 0.

Some of them, altho I knew it was like that in the vn I feel its appropriate to make changes. I mean they made plenty of changes in other parts of the story, why not do it with these scenes that don't mesh well together?

Oct 31, 2022 7:26 AM

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Whover reads this to the end, I salute you lol.

I guess it has to do with Steins Gate 0 having such a strong start that started to drag with no purpose then eventually picked back up again.

There are plenty things to be disappointed with in Steins Gate 0. Their adaptation of the plot is strange and just doesn't connect well. I still have no idea why they didn't just adapt all the routes linearly instead of picking pieces from each one and hoping they all fit together in one timeline. If Higurashi's anime can do it, and even Yu-No's anime can do it.. then surely Steins Gate can, right?

Also regarding the plot, we all know where this is leading to. We know this is supposed to be the story of how Okabe got his determination back and paved the way to Steins Gate. However the anime doesn't do a good job explaining how all these arcs are relevant to that point. What exactly does Okabe learn in each arc that is relevant to him realizing that deceiving the world is possible? Cos it doesn't seem like he actually learns anything until he comes to 2036.

Then there is underdeveloped and underutilized characters. Specifically Kagari, Yuki and Amadeus. By the end of the anime we don't learn anything about Yuki except she is cute, clumsy and isn't an easy girl. Amadeus and Kagari just seem like plot devices to move the WW3 plot along when the slice of life segments start to get too stale and slow. They don't feel like characters. Kagari especially. I wish we got to see more of her relationship with Mayuri in the future and Why she's so possessive and protective of her. They had a great concept in regards to her motivation which is her fear of changing the future and thus losing Mayuri. That does seem like a very interesting point. Despite how terrible and depressing the future is, she found someone worth going through that with. So she doesn't want to change that future.

Anyway thats all I got.

Oct 31, 2022 6:07 PM

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Rajatsanatani said:
i watched steins gate episode 1 to 21 then 23beta than Steins gate 0 then rest of Steins gate, therefore i love both equally

Same! I still believe this is the best way to watch Steins;Gate. No one can tell me otherwise.

Oct 31, 2022 9:36 PM

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Jesus Christ no, this anime was garbage and I don't feel like explaining it since I've wasted too much time explaining why I think it's garbage in plenty of the other threads and at the moment, I just don't feel like wasting my time explaining it any further. This shit was a HUGE DOWNGRADE IN EVERYTHING compared to Steins;Gate.

Maybe another day I will explain it when I feel like it but if you liked this garbage then good for you, as for me, I give this garbage a 4/10 and I believe I'm being generous with that rating.

Nov 1, 2022 1:28 AM

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slenderblak said:

toxispice said:
It was good, but it didn't quite live up to Stiens;gate for me. I didn't like most of the new characters as much as the original. I didn't like the romance between Mayuri and Okabe. In the first series they just felt like really close friends, much more closer to a brother sister relationship. I probably misinterpreted it, but it did make me not like 0.

The ending was fucking awesome though.

idk if you interpreted the mayushi letter as a real love letter or not but there was no romance between them, mayushi didnt want to see okabe suffer anymore and it hurt her so much that the old hououin kyouma is gone leaving a depressed person and since she heard about the truth she wanted herself to be of use and bring back the real okabe by doing what must be done, the care between them is strong and i appreciated it alot, about the other characters maho was fine and atleast had a personality on her own, kagari tho i give you that she's a plot device

If I remember correctly it was made very clear that Mayuri loves Okabe, I could be remembering wrong though.

And Kagari was the worst of the new characters, and the fact that they gave her the face of best girl Kurisu just made me not like her more. I liked Maho from the new characters in 0, and that's about it. I didn't hate everyone else, but they were nowhere near as rememberable as the characters in Stiens Gate.

Nov 1, 2022 1:37 AM

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The slice of life aspect of steins;gate 0 dragged a bit longer for my liking. It made watching the first half a chore to get through.
I only enjoyed the interactions between Okabe and Amadeus Kurisu. And some with Maho.
The second half of the show is really good.

NaroomakiNov 1, 2022 1:40 AM

Nov 1, 2022 3:28 PM

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slenderblak said:

toxispice said:
It was good, but it didn't quite live up to Stiens;gate for me. I didn't like most of the new characters as much as the original. I didn't like the romance between Mayuri and Okabe. In the first series they just felt like really close friends, much more closer to a brother sister relationship. I probably misinterpreted it, but it did make me not like 0.

The ending was fucking awesome though.

idk if you interpreted the mayushi letter as a real love letter or not but there was no romance between them, mayushi didnt want to see okabe suffer anymore and it hurt her so much that the old hououin kyouma is gone leaving a depressed person and since she heard about the truth she wanted herself to be of use and bring back the real okabe by doing what must be done, the care between them is strong and i appreciated it alot, about the other characters maho was fine and atleast had a personality on her own, kagari tho i give you that she's a plot device

Mayuri loves Okabe. This is a straight fact

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Nov 1, 2022 3:52 PM

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Amadeus was nearly useless.

Bad pacing.

Kagari.

Lack of comedy,
If not, the balance or the timing of it.

Most of the lab members are just there & didnt contribute that much on the plot.

The action scenes in the last few eps.

Who was the villain again???

Its an unnecessary sequel if you ask me.

" Kindness can sometimes lead you to trouble. "

Nov 1, 2022 4:38 PM

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Hitagi__Furude said:
Amadeus was nearly useless.

Bad pacing.

Kagari.

Lack of comedy,
If not, the balance or the timing of it.

Most of the lab members are just there & didnt contribute that much on the plot.

The action scenes in the last few eps.

Who was the villain again???

Its an unnecessary sequel if you ask me.

L

L

L

L

L

L

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and its not a sequel

Nov 1, 2022 4:39 PM

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SciADV_Maniac said:

slenderblak said:

idk if you interpreted the mayushi letter as a real love letter or not but there was no romance between them, mayushi didnt want to see okabe suffer anymore and it hurt her so much that the old hououin kyouma is gone leaving a depressed person and since she heard about the truth she wanted herself to be of use and bring back the real okabe by doing what must be done, the care between them is strong and i appreciated it alot, about the other characters maho was fine and atleast had a personality on her own, kagari tho i give you that she's a plot device

Mayuri loves Okabe. This is a straight fact

i dont know to be honest

Nov 1, 2022 4:43 PM

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Naroomaki said:
The slice of life aspect of steins;gate 0 dragged a bit longer for my liking. It made watching the first half a chore to get through.
I only enjoyed the interactions between Okabe and Amadeus Kurisu. And some with Maho.
The second half of the show is really good.

idk why you watch it as a chore, its best to watch it for the fun of it

Nov 1, 2022 4:44 PM

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xZabuzax said:
Jesus Christ no, this anime was garbage and I don't feel like explaining it since I've wasted too much time explaining why I think it's garbage in plenty of the other threads and at the moment, I just don't feel like wasting my time explaining it any further. This shit was a HUGE DOWNGRADE IN EVERYTHING compared to Steins;Gate.

Maybe another day I will explain it when I feel like it but if you liked this garbage then good for you, as for me, I give this garbage a 4/10 and I believe I'm being generous with that rating.

people like you are the reasons i aint like talking with nobody ever

Nov 1, 2022 6:04 PM

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slenderblak said:

xZabuzax said:
Jesus Christ no, this anime was garbage and I don't feel like explaining it since I've wasted too much time explaining why I think it's garbage in plenty of the other threads and at the moment, I just don't feel like wasting my time explaining it any further. This shit was a HUGE DOWNGRADE IN EVERYTHING compared to Steins;Gate.

Maybe another day I will explain it when I feel like it but if you liked this garbage then good for you, as for me, I give this garbage a 4/10 and I believe I'm being generous with that rating.

people like you are the reasons i aint like talking with nobody ever

Sucks to be you.

Nov 1, 2022 8:13 PM

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It's because of different director, the direction is not as good as the original SG

Nov 1, 2022 11:03 PM

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I liked 0 more than the original. It did have out-of-place episodes, but the original S;G had the same thing in the middle of the plot and done worse (just stuffing 5 episode of harem plot into the lead-up to the finale). Since 0 is a character development piece (and yes I loved depressed Okabe) the slice-of-life actually worked and the show itself tied everything together (it made me like the original S;G more just by existing because otherwise the ending of S;G is just a stupid deux ex machina). The “android Makise” subplot and predictable twist villain were unnecessary, but I didn’t expect anything better from Steins;Gate anyways, so the rest of the show was still an improvement. Mostly because of Okabe, I love that guy. Mayuri too as an extension of that.

Nov 2, 2022 12:56 AM

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slenderblak said:

SciADV_Maniac said:

Mayuri loves Okabe. This is a straight fact

i dont know to be honest

She explicitely states it in Ep17 lmao.

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