Muscle Devil Scene Removed (Leak)

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V1P3R0P said:
Annnnnd let the nitpicking begin!!

I’m surprised no one has said something negative in this forum as of yet. Again it is a very useless scene so I don’t think many people will care

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Oct 16, 2022 4:08 AM

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Yuri_Niji said:

V1P3R0P said:
Annnnnd let the nitpicking begin!!

I’m surprised no one has said something negative in this forum as of yet. Again it is a very useless scene so I don’t think many people will care

You just got to wait. haters are getting warmed up and might come any time now.

Oct 16, 2022 4:09 AM

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zemeck said:
i dont even remember there being a "muscle" devil in csm manga

Lmao yh it was really quick , it was chapter 2

Oct 16, 2022 4:09 AM

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LLBird said:
Yeah, I didn't remember this scene until I read the manga the 2nd time. Honestly I think cutting it is acceptable as people will have more time thinking Makima is a good person

Also, the leaks said that ep 2 would be directed by Touko Yatabe (Darling in the Franxx ep 7 director, OPM animator, Evangelion 3.0+1.0 assistant director)
And that ep 2 ending will be solo key animated by Hiromi Kariya (Key animation for Ousama Ranking and Children of the sea)

https://twitter.com/doryokuman01/status/1581336704291864577?cxt=HHwWgoDUmdbWhPIrAAAA

still,i think its always bad not doing like the manga was and even worse because its csm everything its important

Oct 16, 2022 4:11 AM

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SummitOPOP said:

LLBird said:
Yeah, I didn't remember this scene until I read the manga the 2nd time. Honestly I think cutting it is acceptable as people will have more time thinking Makima is a good person

Also, the leaks said that ep 2 would be directed by Touko Yatabe (Darling in the Franxx ep 7 director, OPM animator, Evangelion 3.0+1.0 assistant director)
And that ep 2 ending will be solo key animated by Hiromi Kariya (Key animation for Ousama Ranking and Children of the sea)

https://twitter.com/doryokuman01/status/1581336704291864577?cxt=HHwWgoDUmdbWhPIrAAAA

still,i think its always bad not doing like the manga was and even worse because its csm everything its important

The only thing this scene does is show how brutal the world is with the kid being taken over. Other than that it doesn’t really serve a purpose. As you can see by this forum a lot of people forgot it existed or just don’t care.

It would have been cool to see the fight but it doesn’t really matter in the overarching story

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Oct 16, 2022 4:11 AM

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The udon part will still be there ig, so it's not a big deal, only the devil and the fight will be removed, good for pacing.

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Oct 16, 2022 4:12 AM

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I’m fine with this, I can see them skipping most of chapter 2 except for the last few pages (they could even cut the “someone like this boy named denji” scene, as it doesn’t make much sense without the rest of the chapter - Denji still has a reason to like makima, as she gave him his new life).

Oct 16, 2022 4:15 AM

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Yuri_Niji said:

SummitOPOP said:

still,i think its always bad not doing like the manga was and even worse because its csm everything its important

The only thing this scene does is show how brutal the world is with the kid being taken over. Other than that it doesn’t really serve a purpose. As you can see by this forum a lot of people forgot it existed or just don’t care.

It would have been cool to see the fight but it doesn’t really matter in the overarching story

its shows a little of makima acting aswell,yes i know but idk maybe because of that cene they do more things like that in other parts of the manga

Oct 16, 2022 4:17 AM

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zemeck said:
i dont even remember there being a "muscle" devil in csm manga

Lmao yh it was really quick , it was chapter 2

just reread that and chapter 3, and yeah cutting chapter 2 will take nothing from the enjoyment, introducing aki early however will definitely add so thats a W in my books

Oct 16, 2022 4:17 AM

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SummitOPOP said:

Yuri_Niji said:

The only thing this scene does is show how brutal the world is with the kid being taken over. Other than that it doesn’t really serve a purpose. As you can see by this forum a lot of people forgot it existed or just don’t care.

It would have been cool to see the fight but it doesn’t really matter in the overarching story

its shows a little of makima acting aswell,yes i know but idk maybe because of that cene they do more things like that in other parts of the manga

The udon scene will still be there and Denji will still fall into her arms. It’s just the actual fight that will be removed. I guess Denji will just trip or something or will still be exhausted from the Zombie Devil fight

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Oct 16, 2022 4:19 AM

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Marcelly2Real said:

Lmao yh it was really quick , it was chapter 2

just reread that and chapter 3, and yeah cutting chapter 2 will take nothing from the enjoyment, introducing aki early however will definitely add so thats a W in my books

Big W . People overreacting for no reason

Oct 16, 2022 4:23 AM

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I liked the dialogue where Denji says, "Don't treat a man like a fucking dog". It really tells that Denji is not comfortable with the way Makima was treating him. Other than that though, the muscle devil was a fodder villain that gets one shotted so I don't really care.

Oct 16, 2022 4:25 AM

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wtf, crappa back at it again removing important scenes that foreshadows Makimas character

Oct 16, 2022 4:29 AM

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This isn’t too bad tbf if it is true. Think of it as them being able to animate more of the important fights instead of this 2 page one. Also it leaves more space for anime only scenes if they add them

Oct 16, 2022 4:30 AM

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King_KK said:
I liked the dialogue where Denji says, "Don't treat a man like a fucking dog". It really tells that Denji is not comfortable with the way Makima was treating him. Other than that though, the muscle devil was a fodder villain that gets one shotted so I don't really care.

I agree but for consistency its probably better off cut since we never see denji mad or uncomfortable around her for the rest of the manga so I dont know

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𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵,
𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰.

Oct 16, 2022 4:40 AM

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wtf, crappa back at it again removing important scenes that foreshadows Makimas character

We always have that one person huh…

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DeFa- said:

King_KK said:
I liked the dialogue where Denji says, "Don't treat a man like a fucking dog". It really tells that Denji is not comfortable with the way Makima was treating him. Other than that though, the muscle devil was a fodder villain that gets one shotted so I don't really care.

I agree but for consistency its probably better off cut since we never see denji mad or uncomfortable around her for the rest of the manga so I dont know

As I said I don't care too much. It's just that I liked that dialogue. I agree with your point of not including it being more consistent with Denji's character. I still hope they can find a way to add it while still removing the muscle devil.

Oct 16, 2022 4:47 AM

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You mean that devil at chapter 2 which spoiler Denji tried escaping with?

Oct 16, 2022 4:50 AM

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King_KK said:

DeFa- said:

I agree but for consistency its probably better off cut since we never see denji mad or uncomfortable around her for the rest of the manga so I dont know

As I said I don't care too much. It's just that I liked that dialogue. I agree with your point of not including it being more consistent with Denji's character. I still hope they can find a way to add it while still removing the muscle devil.

It’s possible, there is 20 cuts in between the last thing of chapter 2 and first thing of chapter 3 and we don’t know anything about that

𝓣𝓱𝓮 𝓯𝓪𝓴𝓮 𝓲𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓻 𝓿𝓪𝓵𝓾𝓮.
𝓘𝓷 𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓭𝓮𝓵𝓲𝓫𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓽𝓮 𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓹𝓽 𝓽𝓸 𝓫𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵,
𝓲𝓽𝓼 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓵 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰.

Oct 16, 2022 5:03 AM

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I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

Oct 16, 2022 5:06 AM

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Ah, yes, MAPPA has no money to animate action scenes.

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I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

There's no nonsense to be excused. Mappa is producing csm on their own, since they bought all the rights to the anime from the stakeholders. These little changes from the manga do not affect the story whatsoever. I'm more weirded out by how eager you are to slander a studio for no reason.

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thunderkitten13 said:
I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

What if ppl prefer the scene to be cut off then? It's pretty much a useless fight which doesn't affect the story in any way. I very much prefer it this way so that we can get to the juicy parts quicker.

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Theorder14 said:

thunderkitten13 said:
I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

What if ppl prefer the scene to be cut off then? It's pretty much a useless fight which doesn't affect the story in any way. I very much prefer it this way so that we can get to the juicy parts quicker.

That’s not what is happening though. They are cutting content deliberately. Nobody asked MAPPA to do this...

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StaleNut said:

thunderkitten13 said:
I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

There's no nonsense to be excused. Mappa is producing csm on their own, since they bought all the rights to the anime from the stakeholders. These little changes from the manga do not affect the story whatsoever. I'm more weirded out by how eager you are to slander a studio for no reason.

You have zero idea what slander means haha. And MAPPA purchased the rights for CM, they are not doing this out of the goodwill of their hearts, nor are they trying to innovate or impress the masses with their animation prowess...they are literally cutting corners to meet deadlines lol.

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thunderkitten13 said:

Theorder14 said:

What if ppl prefer the scene to be cut off then? It's pretty much a useless fight which doesn't affect the story in any way. I very much prefer it this way so that we can get to the juicy parts quicker.

That’s not what is happening though. They are cutting content deliberately. Nobody asked MAPPA to do this...

They're cutting content to make the pacing better and hide certain future plot twists better.

And no one forced them to do this, you're right. That's why it's called a "passion project"🤓

Oct 16, 2022 5:13 AM

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thunderkitten13 said:

Theorder14 said:

What if ppl prefer the scene to be cut off then? It's pretty much a useless fight which doesn't affect the story in any way. I very much prefer it this way so that we can get to the juicy parts quicker.

That’s not what is happening though. They are cutting content deliberately. Nobody asked MAPPA to do this...

Sure,but slight anime changes happens most of the time.If it's insignificant changes like these then most ppl are fine with it as you can see from this thread alone.
It also helps with the pacing imo.

Oct 16, 2022 5:14 AM

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thunderkitten13 said:

StaleNut said:

There's no nonsense to be excused. Mappa is producing csm on their own, since they bought all the rights to the anime from the stakeholders. These little changes from the manga do not affect the story whatsoever. I'm more weirded out by how eager you are to slander a studio for no reason.

You have zero idea what slander means haha. And MAPPA purchased the rights for CM, they are not doing this out of the goodwill of their hearts, nor are they trying to innovate or impress the masses with their animation prowess...they are literally cutting corners to meet deadlines lol.

There is no deadline. They're the producers, they make the deadline themselves lmao.

Oct 16, 2022 5:17 AM

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i don't even remember the scene
also great choice of removing

Oct 16, 2022 5:19 AM

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Theorder14 said:

thunderkitten13 said:

That’s not what is happening though. They are cutting content deliberately. Nobody asked MAPPA to do this...

Sure,but slight anime changes happens most of the time.If it's insignificant changes like these then most ppl are fine with it as you can see from this thread alone.
It also helps with the pacing imo.

I mean, it just sounds like they are cutting an interesting scene just because they want to not adapt that part because of time constraints. I don’t see how it negatively affects pacing to have it in, I am sure nobody was complaining about the scene in the manga, but somehow it’s ok it won’t be added? I just don’t understand it, like there have been instances when things have been cut for pacing yes but this just sounds like a harmless fight scene that probably would’ve been nice to see.

Oct 16, 2022 5:22 AM

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StaleNut said:

thunderkitten13 said:

You have zero idea what slander means haha. And MAPPA purchased the rights for CM, they are not doing this out of the goodwill of their hearts, nor are they trying to innovate or impress the masses with their animation prowess...they are literally cutting corners to meet deadlines lol.

There is no deadline. They're the producers, they make the deadline themselves lmao.

If that’s the case, they should’ve spent way more time on this anime. Oh right, they have other stuff they are working on, so instead they are working their animators like slaves pumping out this subpar releases while also trying to sink their teeth into other potential big hits. I mean, one of the producers said CM is going to go down in the history books...I haven’t seen anything that amazing so far, lol. The animation is good when it’s good but I would argue many classic anime have much more impactful and iconic beginnings, like Ghost in the Shell or Eva. But anyways, if you are happy they are cutting it, I’m not going to try and convince you you should be expecting more from MAPPA. I said my opinion already.

Oct 16, 2022 5:26 AM

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There is no deadline. They're the producers, they make the deadline themselves lmao.

If that’s the case, they should’ve spent way more time on this anime. Oh right, they have other stuff they are working on, so instead they are working their animators like slaves pumping out this subpar releases while also trying to sink their teeth into other potential big hits. I mean, one of the producers said CM is going to go down in the history books...I haven’t seen anything that amazing so far, lol. The animation is good when it’s good but I would argue many classic anime have much more impactful and iconic beginnings, like Ghost in the Shell or Eva. But anyways, if you are happy they are cutting it, I’m not going to try and convince you you should be expecting more from MAPPA. I said my opinion already.

Every anime they produce has different staff members. Since most of their staff consists of freelance animators, there's less of a chance they're actually overworking anyone. Well at least not overworking them more than other japanese studios overwork their staff as well.

I don't care about your opinion, you can say whatever you want to say. However don't pretend like you're in the right here, when you're just one of those deadbeat haters who don't know anything about how Mappa even operates.

And the directors are talking about the substance of the story and not the production quality. Csm manga on its own is good enough to go down in history as one of the best stories ever written. Tatsuki Fujimotos movie-like paneling is the most unique artistic choice a manga has ever taken. The production quality simply enhances that style, it doesn't take anything important away from it, and that's all it needs to do.

Oct 16, 2022 5:26 AM

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oh no one less bad cgi fight!!

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Oct 16, 2022 5:29 AM

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the Muscle Devil moment was kinda boring so I don't mind

Oct 16, 2022 5:32 AM

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Sure,but slight anime changes happens most of the time.If it's insignificant changes like these then most ppl are fine with it as you can see from this thread alone.
It also helps with the pacing imo.

I mean, it just sounds like they are cutting an interesting scene just because they want to not adapt that part because of time constraints. I don’t see how it negatively affects pacing to have it in, I am sure nobody was complaining about the scene in the manga, but somehow it’s ok it won’t be added? I just don’t understand it, like there have been instances when things have been cut for pacing yes but this just sounds like a harmless fight scene that probably would’ve been nice to see.

this fight scene doesn't add anything to the plot. Adaptations can cut few things out to fit the pacing unless it's super important for the plot. Besides, Mappa is adding more into action scenes like the Zombie devil fight.

Muscle devil fight doesnt add add anything to Denji's characterization. Even in the manga it was like 1 or 2 pages only. It's like a filler. So not adapting it is really not an issue.

If you are really interested about that fight, just read it in the manga after 2nd episode is released

Oct 16, 2022 5:32 AM

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they still keep this scene though

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thunderkitten13 said:

If that’s the case, they should’ve spent way more time on this anime. Oh right, they have other stuff they are working on, so instead they are working their animators like slaves pumping out this subpar releases while also trying to sink their teeth into other potential big hits. I mean, one of the producers said CM is going to go down in the history books...I haven’t seen anything that amazing so far, lol. The animation is good when it’s good but I would argue many classic anime have much more impactful and iconic beginnings, like Ghost in the Shell or Eva. But anyways, if you are happy they are cutting it, I’m not going to try and convince you you should be expecting more from MAPPA. I said my opinion already.

Every anime they produce has different staff members. Since most of their staff consists of freelance animators, there's less of a chance they're actually overworking anyone. Well at least not overworking them more than other japanese studios overwork their staff as well.

I don't care about your opinion, you can say whatever you want to say. However don't pretend like you're in the right here, when you're just one of those deadbeat haters who don't know anything about how Mappa even operates.

And the directors are talking about the substance of the story and not the production quality. Csm manga on its own is good enough to go down in history as one of the best stories ever written. Tatsuki Fujimotos movie-like paneling is the most unique artistic choice a manga has ever taken. The production quality simply enhances that style, it doesn't take anything important away from it, and that's all it needs to do.

https://animegalaxyofficial.com/overwork-causes-attack-on-titan-director-to-go-home-after-3-daysoverwork-causes-attack-on-titan-director-to-go-home-after-3-days/

Here is your lovely MAPPA. Oh, but I’m just a hater! I forgot. Anyways, you are more than welcome to mute if you find me insufferable lol.

Oct 16, 2022 5:35 AM

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StaleNut said:

Every anime they produce has different staff members. Since most of their staff consists of freelance animators, there's less of a chance they're actually overworking anyone. Well at least not overworking them more than other japanese studios overwork their staff as well.

I don't care about your opinion, you can say whatever you want to say. However don't pretend like you're in the right here, when you're just one of those deadbeat haters who don't know anything about how Mappa even operates.

And the directors are talking about the substance of the story and not the production quality. Csm manga on its own is good enough to go down in history as one of the best stories ever written. Tatsuki Fujimotos movie-like paneling is the most unique artistic choice a manga has ever taken. The production quality simply enhances that style, it doesn't take anything important away from it, and that's all it needs to do.

https://animegalaxyofficial.com/overwork-causes-attack-on-titan-director-to-go-home-after-3-daysoverwork-causes-attack-on-titan-director-to-go-home-after-3-days/

Here is your lovely MAPPA. Oh, but I’m just a hater! I forgot. Anyways, you are more than welcome to mute if you find me insufferable lol.

Right, and who gave the deadline for aot final season? Kodansha. But of course, it's mappas fault that the production committee is forcing the director to work overtime. Mappa is the one deciding that yes💀

Now of course, mappa knew this would be a problematic anime to adapt when they picked it up, and yes they didn't do anything to fight kodanshas decision, so they are definitely in the wrong as well. But you're only blaming mappa here and no one else.

Oct 16, 2022 5:37 AM

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The muscle devil is in like, half a chapter. This really isn't a big deal

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Oct 16, 2022 5:42 AM

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I mean, it just sounds like they are cutting an interesting scene just because they want to not adapt that part because of time constraints. I don’t see how it negatively affects pacing to have it in, I am sure nobody was complaining about the scene in the manga, but somehow it’s ok it won’t be added? I just don’t understand it, like there have been instances when things have been cut for pacing yes but this just sounds like a harmless fight scene that probably would’ve been nice to see.

this fight scene doesn't add anything to the plot. Adaptations can cut few things out to fit the pacing unless it's super important for the plot. Besides, Mappa is adding more into action scenes like the Zombie devil fight.

Muscle devil fight doesnt add add anything to Denji's characterization. Even in the manga it was like 1 or 2 pages only. It's like a filler. So not adapting it is really not an issue.

If you are really interested about that fight, just read it in the manga after 2nd episode is released

...I literally said what you are saying. It’s an interesting little fight scene that would’ve been nice to see. Not everything in an anime has to add to the characters or story. Sometimes moments of spontaneity add to a piece of art. Look at Kill la Kill, or Gintama, lol. I am seriously confused why anyone is saying it is fine; I am not saying they should be depressed or in a rage, but they at least should be disappointed. Like if any story/LN/manga I hold dear gets an adaptation by such a capable studio like MAPPA, I would hope they would give it their all to match the quality of the source material in all its entirety. But I guess I am learning from this community that sentiment is not widely held, oh well.

Oct 16, 2022 5:43 AM

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thunderkitten13 said:
I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

Never seen haters so dedicated to nitpicking and trashing on one particular studio for every little thing they do. Lmao, if you have watched some animes in your life, youll know that every, literally every adaptation has cut out content. So yeah nothing wrong with them doing it, same as they cut content, they expand it, like they did in episode 1. Also they are open for creativity, if they think these scenes better not be present this early on, to make it more interesting for fans they can cut it. Lol, if they wanted to cut corners they could do mediocre adaptation with some cool action and get money out of it, but they did movie level adaptation for series.

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thunderkitten13 said:

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Sure,but slight anime changes happens most of the time.If it's insignificant changes like these then most ppl are fine with it as you can see from this thread alone.
It also helps with the pacing imo.

I mean, it just sounds like they are cutting an interesting scene just because they want to not adapt that part because of time constraints. I don’t see how it negatively affects pacing to have it in, I am sure nobody was complaining about the scene in the manga, but somehow it’s ok it won’t be added? I just don’t understand it, like there have been instances when things have been cut for pacing yes but this just sounds like a harmless fight scene that probably would’ve been nice to see.

How is the muscle devil fight in any way intresting? It's pretty much meaningless and i can see why they decided to cut it off. Sure, no1 was complaining about it but it's not like it was necessary either.
I don't really get why you think it's such an intresting scene. It would just waste screen time imo.

Oct 16, 2022 5:45 AM

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I had to look up what the muscle devil even was again but it's still a little disappointing that they cut it out. But I guess it's okay. At first I was afraid they cut the scene with Denji and Aki in that devil's apartment... that would have been super unfortunate.

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thunderkitten13 said:

StaleNut said:

thunderkitten13 said:

StaleNut said:

thunderkitten13 said:
I have never seen a fan base so dedicated to excusing a studio’s nonsense. Not even AOT’s community was this resigned.

There's no nonsense to be excused. Mappa is producing csm on their own, since they bought all the rights to the anime from the stakeholders. These little changes from the manga do not affect the story whatsoever. I'm more weirded out by how eager you are to slander a studio for no reason.

You have zero idea what slander means haha. And MAPPA purchased the rights for CM, they are not doing this out of the goodwill of their hearts, nor are they trying to innovate or impress the masses with their animation prowess...they are literally cutting corners to meet deadlines lol.

There is no deadline. They're the producers, they make the deadline themselves lmao.

If that’s the case, they should’ve spent way more time on this anime. Oh right, they have other stuff they are working on, so instead they are working their animators like slaves pumping out this subpar releases while also trying to sink their teeth into other potential big hits. I mean, one of the producers said CM is going to go down in the history books...I haven’t seen anything that amazing so far, lol. The animation is good when it’s good but I would argue many classic anime have much more impactful and iconic beginnings, like Ghost in the Shell or Eva. But anyways, if you are happy they are cutting it, I’m not going to try and convince you you should be expecting more from MAPPA. I said my opinion already.

Every anime they produce has different staff members. Since most of their staff consists of freelance animators, there's less of a chance they're actually overworking anyone. Well at least not overworking them more than other japanese studios overwork their staff as well.

I don't care about your opinion, you can say whatever you want to say. However don't pretend like you're in the right here, when you're just one of those deadbeat haters who don't know anything about how Mappa even operates.

And the directors are talking about the substance of the story and not the production quality. Csm manga on its own is good enough to go down in history as one of the best stories ever written. Tatsuki Fujimotos movie-like paneling is the most unique artistic choice a manga has ever taken. The production quality simply enhances that style, it doesn't take anything important away from it, and that's all it needs to do.

https://animegalaxyofficial.com/overwork-causes-attack-on-titan-director-to-go-home-after-3-daysoverwork-causes-attack-on-titan-director-to-go-home-after-3-days/

Here is your lovely MAPPA. Oh, but I’m just a hater! I forgot. Anyways, you are more than welcome to mute if you find me insufferable lol.

Right, and who gave the deadline for aot final season? Kodansha. But of course, it's mappas fault that the production committee is forcing the director to work overtime. Mappa is the one deciding that yes💀

Now of course, mappa knew this would be a problematic anime to adapt when they picked it up, and yes they didn't do anything to fight kodanshas decision, so they are definitely in the wrong as well. But you're only blaming mappa here and no one else.

Sir, do you think Kodansha is just some Overlord that controls the will of the people at MAPPA? No, there are contracts, lots of ink and paper that must be signed by people with authority, and MAPPA agreed to Kodansha’s terms. You realize their is a chain of power at these places? Kodansha puts expectations on MAPPA, MAPPA imposes those expectations on the workers and regulates the labor to ensure efficiency. MAPPA is not a victim. And you know, I am critical of their work because they are greedy as a studio. They don’t want to promote quality, they want to promote cheating with CGI, not even doing a good job, and to be praised for the ACTUAL effort put in by traditional animators. Nobody cares about the CGI, it is the traditional work that is celebrated, that is beloved. And the fact is MAPPA abuses the hard work of very skilled people just to make deadlines at the behest of Kodansha but, again, it is MAPPA that should be caring for their workers before anyone else, and care about pushing the best quality.

Oct 16, 2022 5:55 AM

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