is there anyway to counter Gold Experience Requiem?

May 31, 2022 11:11 PM

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You can use any abilities from any animes you want, but i still cant think of any power that can counter GER. What abilities can you think of that can counter GER return to zero specifically

May 31, 2022 11:30 PM

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While giorno is going thru his speech, sheer heart attack would have time to blow him up and that would probably cancel return to zero, or turing the fight befor return to zero kira could make giorno a bomb and blow him up if his VERY lucky.

May 31, 2022 11:34 PM

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GER is basically the UNO reverse card of the medium,the possibility of the existence of a counter is null.

And the drip is overwhelming,too.

May 31, 2022 11:44 PM

PMJ11

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I imagine it would take another requiem stand to defeat GER

May 31, 2022 11:45 PM

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Pot_of_Greed1 said:
While giorno is going thru his speech, sheer heart attack would have time to blow him up and that would probably cancel return to zero, or turing the fight befor return to zero kira could make giorno a bomb and blow him up if his VERY lucky.

No it can’t. GER can just make sheer heart attack’s explosion to 0 and same to giorno

May 31, 2022 11:46 PM

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I don't think so.
GER is a reality bender and is completely untouchable.

May 31, 2022 11:47 PM

DiomarBrasindo

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You would need a 4 dimensional or higher character to beat GER. Like soft and wet beyond or tusk act 4. But then again GER could just prevent them from attacking in the first place

Jun 1, 2022 12:00 AM

kizumi91

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The only way to beat GER

Jun 1, 2022 12:27 AM

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Yes. But only 1 stand. World Over Heaven

Jun 1, 2022 12:38 AM

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kizuyomi

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Any character that is 5D+ or that is simply beyond the concept of time-space can counter it.

If you specifically want an ability, Imagine breaker from Magical index would do. it simply reverses anything even if a character seemingly changes the whole multiverse.

The Madoka abstract concept or the Devil abstract concept from puella magi madoka magica: a law that exist throughout space-time and can simply deny the existence of GER.

Zeno's hakai from DBS. it has killed a near abstract concept that existed constantly in many timelines.

Golden longsword, Endless magic, Endless nine, Red truth from umineko. GER got no chance here cause these abilities' fate manipulating and denial work on higher plane of existence (endlessly higher infinities and lower zeroes unless it's absolute zero). Here zero is different from Jojo's definition of zeroes cause there are infinite spaciometrical dimensions in Umineko, ie, if something didn't exist in one universe/multiverse, it can exist in another and so-on towards endless planes or if it doesn't exist in any planes of existence, it will have its records in the realm that can be accessed by the creator. Note: these aren't referring to parallel universes but to the existence of dimensional planes like 3D, 4D, 5D, 6D..... and towards infiniteth dimension then higher to the point where all of it becomes fiction and then so on.

Servents, grand servants and their noble phantasm from fate. These thing exists as higher level abstract concepts and they are not limited to space-time.

Gate of Babylon from fate. it contains Enuma Eilish which is an anti world noble phantasm; anti world is not limited to the 3rd dimension. it can even destroy 6th dimensional object like the Avalon.

and many more.

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Jun 1, 2022 12:58 AM

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madoka kaname or Haruhi suzumiya can pretty much defeat GER

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
[WATCH THIS^^^]

Jun 1, 2022 1:08 AM

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Jun 1, 2022 2:14 AM

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ger's power is like infinity- to counter it you'd need another power on the level of infinity and then it would probably be a draw- something like Jorge joestars power

Jun 1, 2022 2:17 AM

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The World Over Heaven

Jun 1, 2022 2:41 AM

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mikeanims2006

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i think you should eat pizza in worst possible way and he will die of emotional damage

Jun 1, 2022 3:55 AM

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gaburiii

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I don't give a shit about GER's powers.

Jun 1, 2022 3:56 AM

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TheLoneStar said:
The World Over Heaven

Not canon and stupidly OP.

Jun 1, 2022 4:12 AM

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GER can be countered by Jesus.

Jun 1, 2022 4:16 AM

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Lakuherra

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Vanessa from black clover has the same type of ability that lets her rewind the time as many times that it comes like she wants it to

Jun 1, 2022 4:31 AM

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Lakuherra said:
Vanessa from black clover has the same type of ability that lets her rewind the time as many times that it comes like she wants it to

I remember she got too exhausted to keep it going though, so theres a limit to it.

Hhhmmmmmm.......

Jun 1, 2022 5:00 AM

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mrjdko said:
You can use any abilities from any animes you want, but i still cant think of any power that can counter GER. What abilities can you think of that can counter GER return to zero specifically

nothing can really counter ger since Return to Zero is a passive ability, you would need a reality overwriter to beat it or somethng

Jun 1, 2022 5:20 AM

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Another Requiem Stand where the User’s desire at that time is to beat G.E.R.

I truly never understood the hype behind GER being the “most powerful Stand”. From my understanding, a Requiem Stand is a Stand evolution that allows a Stand to do whatever their user wants the most in that moment, but the key is, it’s only temporary. For example, Polnareff’s Silver Chariot Requiem’s ability was to be extremely evasive. More specifically, it kept the arrow away from everyone because Polnareff didn’t want Diavolo to get the arrow. Also, his Stand only appeared invincible, as it had a weakness as discovered by Buccaratti (I think). Now think about it: Silver Chariot’s Requiem evolution makes absolutely zero sense for the Stand itself. Why would a Stand whose main abilities are fencing and swordplay evolve to be highly evasive and nothing else?

Requiem Stands as I understand them are not as definitive as people seem to think they are. Let’s say for example, Polnareff showed up in Part 4 and was fighting Kira when Silver Chariot became a Requiem Stand, and rather than “keep the arrow away from Diavolo”, his desire was something like “Stop Kira from using Sheer Heart Attack”. Its ability would have been completely different from what we saw in Part 5 because Polnareff’s immediate desire in that moment would have been completely different, something more suited to stopping Killer Queen’s Sheer Heart Attack ability.

What I’m saying overall is that GER was only as powerful as it was because of the EXACT situation Giorno obtained the arrow in. Giorno’s ultimate desire in that moment was to defeat Diavolo, a person who’s Stand could skip time and see a temporary future and was effectively invincible when using these abilities. Therefore, Giorno needed a Stand that was capable of countering these abilities, which is how GER as we know it was born. If Giorno was fighting ANYONE ELSE or any other Stand in that moment, GER’s ability would have been completely different, more suited to taking down that particular Stand. Also keep in mind, like Silver Chariot Requiem, GER likely also has some sort of weakness. I have no clue what that would be, and due to the circumstances of the Jojo universe we’ll likely never know.

Also due to the Jojo universe’s circumstances, we’re (likely) never going to canonically see Giorno again, so none of this can really be proven or disproven. Given what we know based on what we have seen with Requiem Stands, it is likely that Giorno is back to having regular Gold Experience.

I guess to formally answer the question, as I said at the beginning, any Requiem Stand created with defeating GER in mind would be capable of defeating GER. But also, there would never really be a situation where someone could fight GER as we know it (Unless someone’s desire was to go back in time and fight Giorno when he had GER during the Diavolo fight. Now THAT would be one hell of an encounter lol).

Jun 1, 2022 7:04 AM

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In the Jojo canon universe, as of now NO, but if we use non canon Jojo material then yes. Other anime characters out there can beat GER

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Jun 1, 2022 7:25 AM

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mrjdko

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some of these answer gives me science class vibes
actually physic class vibes

Jun 1, 2022 8:50 AM

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Shonen_6307

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his heaven ascended dad can clap him 🗿

Jun 1, 2022 10:31 AM

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salad77

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technically theres also Go Beyond which is a non existant attack tho im not sure if it can beat ger

Jun 1, 2022 1:20 PM

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cjmcmullen

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I’ve always had a feeling that tusk act IV could break through GER

Jun 1, 2022 3:43 PM

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PMJ11 said:
I imagine it would take another requiem stand to defeat GER

I think only reality rewrite like the world over heaven can actually beat him otherwise he will just return the requiem stand to zero I think

Jun 1, 2022 3:44 PM

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Lakuherra said:
Vanessa from black clover has the same type of ability that lets her rewind the time as many times that it comes like she wants it to

but she need to touch the person

Jun 1, 2022 3:45 PM

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Lakuherra said:
Vanessa from black clover has the same type of ability that lets her rewind the time as many times that it comes like she wants it to

but she isn't a stand user so her cat cannot touch the stand to rewind whatever

Jun 1, 2022 3:55 PM

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Just get a mutiversal god. Like WN Rimuru for instance.

I think Return By Death and Al's authority can possibly counter GER since RBD also undoes stuff. If Giorno killed Subaru even once, then RBD would undo everything and take the world back to the checkpoint. And since it has been undone, GER is no longer relevant.

Jun 1, 2022 4:14 PM

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Acausal characters. Eobard Thawne is one of them iirc. He also has access to the Speed Force so killing Giorno should be easy.

Any character with better reality warping.

Jun 1, 2022 4:21 PM

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As seen in Eyes of Heaven, any reality warpers can override GER, therefore characters like Saiki K or Wanda Maximoff could theoretically beat him.

Jun 1, 2022 4:25 PM

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mrjdko

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kizumi91 said:
The only way to beat GER

funny if that actually happened

Jun 1, 2022 7:32 PM

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samavalon05

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Talk no jutsu from Naruto, will work against anyone with feelings and is undefeated.

Jun 1, 2022 8:06 PM

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the13thStruggle

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He gets negged by Yhwach (Bleach), who's possibly acausal anyway considering Orihime's causality manipulation was completely ignored by him. The Almighty is even more hax than Return to Zero.

Jun 1, 2022 9:25 PM

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Zepe63

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nice 73 IQ "theory"

Jun 2, 2022 5:41 AM

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shozaro

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Tell Prince about it, he'll probably file a copyright infringement lawsuit againts Giorno.

Jun 2, 2022 5:52 AM

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ok_master

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what about wonder of you.

Jun 2, 2022 7:46 AM

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mrjdko

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speaking of kira, i wonder how bite the dust affects Return to Zero

Jun 4, 2022 12:00 PM

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Ashikhi

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the world over heaven beat ger do yes

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