86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
| I don't know why they're trying so hard to make us care about Fido. It's not even a particularly well made character because they're taking a stereotypical approach to pet chars, and it's not working for me. |
| Yeah I also got that cringe feeling after watching the 3rd episode but there are people who like it. |
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| Your thread is kinda cringeworthy 😬 |
| We love Fido! He's the goodest boy out there! |
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| I think they want to just show or give some hapiness to the characters. Personally it felt cute. |
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| Another troll post lololol |
Hilarious video. lol Thanks for sharing. Chota_Itachi said: (...) the idea of it having recordings of Shin and Ded team Nitroade24h said: (...) the idea of following Shin’s life with the 86 and seeing them live and die and recording it was great Yeah, that concept is fine. My issue wasn't with that, but with Fido acting like a regular dog all the time despite being an AI. |
Sheklon said: My issue wasn't with that, but with Fido acting like a regular dog all the time despite being an AI. Even if the AI really really thinks it is a dog!? Because, how do you know it doesn't? |
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borderliner said: Sheklon said: My issue wasn't with that, but with Fido acting like a regular dog all the time despite being an AI. Even if the AI really really thinks it is a dog!? Because, how do you know it doesn't? My post was half bait, but since you're asking; AI don't think, not in the same way living beings do. You could, of course, program an entire AI to act exactly like a dog, but then again, it would be just a program mimicking a dog, and it's hard to empathize with that. |
| Welcome to another classic post on "Things I don't like, so I will express my complaints to people". Ya, no one cares. |
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Sheklon said: borderliner said: Even if the AI really really thinks it is a dog!? Because, how do you know it doesn't? My post was half bait, but since you're asking; AI don't think, not in the same way living beings do. You could, of course, program an entire AI to act exactly like a dog, but then again, it would be just a program mimicking a dog, and it's hard to empathize with that. You simply have no idea how AI's might come to think, not in this world and certainly not in a Sci-Fi setting. |
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| I was gonna speculate something similar to this. Yes otherwise there's like 0 reason why a perfect death needs to be reversed. |
| there are people who hate fido..? what the Fuck😧🙁🤬😠🤬🤬 |
| I find the idea of him having tapes of all the team members very heartwarming. at least even if they all die, something out there remembers them and tbh it seems like he is going to play an important role in the future. |
ThatOneDude25 said: Sheklon said: My post was half bait, but since you're asking; AI don't think, not in the same way living beings do. You could, of course, program an entire AI to act exactly like a dog, but then again, it would be just a program mimicking a dog, and it's hard to empathize with that. Edgy lol Bro they are in machines moving fast af and shooting things out of cannons that are strapped to said machines. Those machine look pretty high tech. That civilization looks pretty advanced. I wouldn’t doubt it if they had AI that can think and learn. "AI don't think, not in the same way living beings do. You could, of course, program an entire AI to act exactly like a dog, but then again, it would be just a program mimicking a dog, and it's hard to empathize with that." On a serious note, AI thought processes would be more akin to a software running codes instead of an organic form of life naturally interacting with the world and making chemical processes with their brain. AI is precise and numerical, we're not. This means that if you program an AI to be exactly like a dog, then it's just a fake dog. And if you make a robot cat to jump like a cat, it will be perfect, but a cat isn't - they may miss and fall to their deaths, the AI would only do so if you program it badly, or program it to fail on purpose. A real dog doesn't "act like a dog", it just is, and became so through countless instances of adapting and learning throughout millennia. |
Chota_Itachi said: Sheklon said: Its a bit complex people need to use a lil bit of their brain to understand how AI works so it doesn't matter how much you explain them!"AI don't think, not in the same way living beings do. You could, of course, program an entire AI to act exactly like a dog, but then again, it would be just a program mimicking a dog, and it's hard to empathize with that." On a serious note, AI thought processes would be more akin to a software running codes instead of an organic form of life naturally interacting with the world and making chemical processes with their brain. AI is precise and numerical, we're not. This means that if you program an AI to be exactly like a dog, then it's just a fake dog. And if you make a robot cat to jump like a cat, it will be perfect, but a cat isn't - they may miss and fall to their deaths, the AI would only do so if you program it badly, or program it to fail on purpose. A real dog doesn't "act like a dog", it just is, and became so through countless instances of adapting and learning throughout millennia. And they're angry at me because I said the pet dog isn't that cute. lol |
Chota_Itachi said: Sheklon said: Its a bit complex people need to use a lil bit of their brain to understand how AI works so it doesn't matter how much you explain them!"AI don't think, not in the same way living beings do. You could, of course, program an entire AI to act exactly like a dog, but then again, it would be just a program mimicking a dog, and it's hard to empathize with that." On a serious note, AI thought processes would be more akin to a software running codes instead of an organic form of life naturally interacting with the world and making chemical processes with their brain. AI is precise and numerical, we're not. This means that if you program an AI to be exactly like a dog, then it's just a fake dog. And if you make a robot cat to jump like a cat, it will be perfect, but a cat isn't - they may miss and fall to their deaths, the AI would only do so if you program it badly, or program it to fail on purpose. A real dog doesn't "act like a dog", it just is, and became so through countless instances of adapting and learning throughout millennia. You two are really doubling down on this dumb notion that there's some sort of link between the AI we experience in everyday life and what we observe about Fido's behaviour. |
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| Cringe? It's not like the dog is doing anything cringey per se, it's just a dog... |
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Chota_Itachi said: borderliner said: what doubling ? , I'm saying what i think is rightYou two are really doubling down on this dumb notion that there's some sort of link between the AI we experience in everyday life and what we observe about Fido's behaviour. Two things, What's been said about AI isn't true. Whether Fido is an AI or not has zero impact on our ability to empathise with it as a character. Sharks are living creatures, how much empathy do you feel for them? |
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| @borderliner You'll have to explain further. What was wrong with what I said about AI and what are you trying to bring up with the shark analogy? @Thatonedude25 I just don't really like (what to me feels like) a generic robot dog and I think it's low effort and not compelling. It's not that deep. Some people said above that there is more to Fido than meets the eyes; cool, but the anime hasn't show that yet. |
SheklonOct 21, 2021 10:22 AM
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