Best Power System
| With every new Shounen, comes a new power system; but which power system is the best? DISCLAIMER: I'm a person of GREAT TASTE. If your pick isn't on here then it just means it's trash. |
DragevardOct 12, 2021 1:31 PM
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| I just finished Word Trigger first season recently, it's definitely one of the better power systems in shounen anime that I've seen. Also love how strategic and tactical their battles are. It may even get my vote. I thought One Piece's devil fruit system was amazing when I first started it, haki is awesome too. |
| Physics [High School of the Dead] Can't forget. |
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| Nen is the most complete system, it imposes self-limitations to the writer, so he can't come with something overpower from nothing (like Oda did with Haki in One Piece), so he needs to be creative and play with his own rules. GakutoDeathGlare said: I just finished Word Trigger first season recently, it's definitely one of the better power systems in shounen anime that I've seen. Also love how strategic and tactical their battles are. It may even get my vote. I thought One Piece's devil fruit system was amazing when I first started it, haki is awesome too. I'll take a look |
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| The way you phrased some of these gave me a laugh thanks lol but my favorite is one piece :) or jojo stands |
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| I swear this is the 10th time I've seen this poll in a few weeks. |
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Nemersis said: Nen is the most complete system, it imposes self-limitations to the writer, so he can't come with something overpower from nothing (like Oda did with Haki in One Piece), so he needs to be creative and play with his own rules. GakutoDeathGlare said: I just finished Word Trigger first season recently, it's definitely one of the better power systems in shounen anime that I've seen. Also love how strategic and tactical their battles are. It may even get my vote. I thought One Piece's devil fruit system was amazing when I first started it, haki is awesome too. I'll take a look I don't like it, main character can from nowhere smash villan who is 500 times stronger than him and at the end we all know he will survive anyway, no matter what he sacrificed in exchange. But every Shounen have some wierd power-ups, this one is atelast consistent with the rules invented by the author |
| I believe One Piece is the perfect anime to show the issues with power systems, if they're not firmly grounded There's Devil Fruits and Haki: Devil Fruits have properties and limitations, this is a grounded system Haki is just will...the stronger your will, the stronger you are(that's basically Qi, Hamon, Cosmos, Reiatsu, Chakra, etc...) Nen is the best since it's a mix of both, but unlike One Piece(where Haki and DF are separated powers...that can be used together), your will is limitated by your matchup(of course there's exceptions...Specialists, Exorcists and Self Imposed Limitations) |
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ReegrezSNK said: Nemersis said: Nen is the most complete system, it imposes self-limitations to the writer, so he can't come with something overpower from nothing (like Oda did with Haki in One Piece), so he needs to be creative and play with his own rules. I'll take a look I don't like it, main character can from nowhere smash villan who is 500 times stronger than him and at the end we all know he will survive anyway, no matter what he sacrificed in exchange. But every Shounen have some wierd power-ups, this one is atelast consistent with the rules invented by the author There are "ultimate abilities" well established in Nen rules, like Netero's last attack before the rose bomb (Gon becomes aesthetically like him before sacrificing everything as he did, you can see his thin arms in the hospital bed, just like Netero becomes thin too); Pitou can still fight after death because of his ultimate ability, Kaito can reincarnate his soul etc. The main character is not even close the most OP character in hxh. Armados said: Nemersis said: Nen is the most complete system, it imposes self-limitations to the writer, so he can't come with something overpower from nothing (like Oda did with Haki in One Piece), so he needs to be creative and play with his own rules. I'll take a look I would've agreed regarding Nen at the very beginning of its introduction, but Togashi bullshited alot of stupid things throughout HxH that quite ruined Nen for me. For example, Emperor Time is stupid. Mastering all types due to a condition is just a hax cheap way to make Kurapika's skills be relevant enough to fulfill his motivation in an instant. Gon vs Pitou is another example. His "sacrifice" was irrelevant as Togashi deus ex-machina'd the consequences. You might be thinking - Killua's sister has nothing to do with Nen, which is argueably true, but Gon's sudden growth in exchange for his potential was just a typical shounen super saiyan bullshit, especially since the jump was even higher than Kurapika's. Also, in the manga, in parts that the anime didn't manage to go through, there are even more bullshit moments due to Togashi breaking the Nen's limitations through dumb gimmicks that shouldn't have existed. Nen doesn't limit Togashi, he constantly breaks the limits he created for this power system, thus making your claim inaccurate. --------------------------------------------- >Mastering all types due to a condition is just a hax cheap way to make Kurapika's skills be relevant enough to fulfill his motivation in an instant. It would be true if it only happened with Kurapika. And there's a limitation to his powers: it only works towards the Genei Ryodan, that's why it's so overpower (more limitations = more power). >but Gon's sudden growth in exchange for his potential was just a typical shounen super saiyan bullshit it's well established that Gon "is a monster". He almost killed Morel in a demonstration. His sacrifice to power up his ultimate was to lose all his Nen (yes, Gon is now no longer able to use Nen). Alluka only heals his wounds after he blows up himself (she didn't raise him from the dead), and there's a rule for her power too. There were great consequences and no established rules were broken, so no god ex machina from my pov. |
NemersisOct 12, 2021 5:19 PM
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Dragevard said: With every new Shounen, comes a new power system; but which power system is the best? DISCLAIMER: I'm a person of GREAT TASTE. If your pick isn't on here then it just means it's trash. The best and most enjoyable for me was Nen from HxH. The 2nd sentence is obviously troll, so I won't take it personally, or perhaps it's just ignorance, idc ^^. |
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| My vote is for World Trigger, its battles are so satisfying, and it's pretty balanced without being boring or over-complicated. |
  "Truth is always a cruel thing." |
Dragevard said: DISCLAIMER: I'm a person of GREAT TASTE. If your pick isn't on here then it just means it's trash. How many times are you going to make yourself look bad like this... this is the 5th post i've read of yours this week... I won't keep letting you get away with not picking my trash. |
My taste is trash. So is yours. |
| personally i love stands from jojo. there's so many creative powers that are both powerful and pretty useless. |
| desu desu binches |
| Nen, no question. Devil Fruits, Stands and Grimoire in BC are also pretty good. |
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| Didn't vote but: Bloodline limit (Kekkei Genkai, Kekkei Mora and Kekkei Tota). |
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| Stand in jojo and Reiatsu in Bleach are top notch power system |
| "Fear is necessary for evolution. The fear that one could be destroyed at any moment" -Aizen Sousuke |
Nemersis said: this is complete bs, not everyone has ultimate abilities, it's just abilities that use more aura, Gon didn't have an ultimate ability, just because he looks same as netero doesn't mean he did the same thing as netero, Netero was like that cause he had no Aura (all aura used in Zero Hand), he could recover, Gon was in that situation cause he lost his aura and overexerted himself (he lost his aura forever and his body couldn't handle all that) Gon could NOT recover, Pitou could still fight not because of an "ultimate ability" but because of how nen works (post mortem nen gets stronger) so after she died the puppet controlling her remained and controlled her, as for Kite that was just one his 10 abilities in his hatsu. Also yea the MC in that form is one of the strongest character in HxHReegrezSNK said: I don't like it, main character can from nowhere smash villan who is 500 times stronger than him and at the end we all know he will survive anyway, no matter what he sacrificed in exchange. But every Shounen have some wierd power-ups, this one is atelast consistent with the rules invented by the author There are "ultimate abilities" well established in Nen rules, like Netero's last attack before the rose bomb (Gon becomes aesthetically like him before sacrificing everything as he did, you can see his thin arms in the hospital bed, just like Netero becomes thin too); Pitou can still fight after death because of his ultimate ability, Kaito can reincarnate his soul etc. The main character is not even close the most OP character in hxh. |
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Armados said: Nemersis said: Nen is the most complete system, it imposes self-limitations to the writer, so he can't come with something overpower from nothing (like Oda did with Haki in One Piece), so he needs to be creative and play with his own rules. I'll take a look I would've agreed regarding Nen at the very beginning of its introduction, but Togashi bullshited alot of stupid things throughout HxH that quite ruined Nen for me. For example, Emperor Time is stupid. Mastering all types due to a condition is just a hax cheap way to make Kurapika's skills be relevant enough to fulfill his motivation in an instant. Gon vs Pitou is another example. His "sacrifice" was irrelevant as Togashi deus ex-machina'd the consequences. You might be thinking - Killua's sister has nothing to do with Nen, which is argueably true, but Gon's sudden growth in exchange for his potential was just a typical shounen super saiyan bullshit, especially since the jump was even higher than Kurapika's. Also, in the manga, in parts that the anime didn't manage to go through, there are even more bullshit moments due to Togashi breaking the Nen's limitations through dumb gimmicks that shouldn't have existed. Nen doesn't limit Togashi, he constantly breaks the limits he created for this power system, thus making your claim inaccurate. Emperor time doesn't make Pika a master in all Nen types, it just gives him same level of control he has as conjurer, iirc anime didn't cover this part but there are levels in Nen, before Emperor time lets says kurapika control was 1 over everything but 5 at conjuration, after Emperor time he would have level 5 control on everything now, not 100 Yea I agree this was BS, Nanika was an asspull it made all the sacrifice and everything irrelevant Nen beasts work differently than others we will have to see more of them to know how much different |
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| I liked the power system in One Piece because they have proper mechanics. There, you don't have to rely on genetics or spiritual power, you can just search down what specific power you want, or eat a devil fruit and hope for the best. |
| Nen [Hiatus X Hiatus] by far the best for me. |
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Faozan_ said: Nemersis said: this is complete bs, not everyone has ultimate abilities, it's just abilities that use more aura, Gon didn't have an ultimate ability, just because he looks same as netero doesn't mean he did the same thing as netero, Netero was like that cause he had no Aura (all aura used in Zero Hand), he could recover, Gon was in that situation cause he lost his aura and overexerted himself (he lost his aura forever and his body couldn't handle all that) Gon could NOT recover, Pitou could still fight not because of an "ultimate ability" but because of how nen works (post mortem nen gets stronger) so after she died the puppet controlling her remained and controlled her, as for Kite that was just one his 10 abilities in his hatsu. Also yea the MC in that form is one of the strongest character in HxHThere are "ultimate abilities" well established in Nen rules, like Netero's last attack before the rose bomb (Gon becomes aesthetically like him before sacrificing everything as he did, you can see his thin arms in the hospital bed, just like Netero becomes thin too); Pitou can still fight after death because of his ultimate ability, Kaito can reincarnate his soul etc. The main character is not even close the most OP character in hxh. Well, this nomenclature is not used in HXH, so there's no problem in calling post mortem nen this way. >Netero was like that cause he had no Aura (all aura used in Zero Hand), he could recover, Gon was in that situation cause he lost his aura and overexerted himself (he lost his aura forever and his body couldn't handle all that) Gon could NOT recover π€£ So you are just ignoring the visual semiotic and the scene that Gon literally blows up, with no further justifications. Armados said: Nemersis said: There are "ultimate abilities" well established in Nen rules, like Netero's last attack before the rose bomb (Gon becomes aesthetically like him before sacrificing everything as he did, you can see his thin arms in the hospital bed, just like Netero becomes thin too); Pitou can still fight after death because of his ultimate ability, Kaito can reincarnate his soul etc. The main character is not even close the most OP character in hxh. >Mastering all types due to a condition is just a hax cheap way to make Kurapika's skills be relevant enough to fulfill his motivation in an instant. It would be true if it only happened with Kurapika. And there's a limitation to his powers: it only works towards the Genei Ryodan, that's why it's so overpower (more limitations = more power). >but Gon's sudden growth in exchange for his potential was just a typical shounen super saiyan bullshit it's well established that Gon "is a monster". He almost killed Morel in a demonstration. His sacrifice to power up his ultimate was to lose all his Nen (yes, Gon is now no longer able to use Nen). Alluka only heals his wounds after he blows up himself (she didn't raise him from the dead), and there's a rule for her power too. There were great consequences and no established rules were broken, so no god ex machina from my pov. You are acting like Gon will permanently not be able to use Nen. Its a shounen, its a common overused trope to have the MC lose the ability to use their powers through sacrificing it for short conditional massive gains. But eventually, they magically get fixed by something bullshit and are allowed to use it once again. The only thing stopping Gon from getting Nen back is Togashi's hiatuses. Gon's conversation with Ging is more than enough to understand that Gon will somehow bullshit his way into fixing the remaining consequences, assuming the manga wouldn't just stopped prior to that. so when it happens, you come back here to discuss lol |
NemersisOct 14, 2021 1:43 PM
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| Nen is cap, it is very vague in the anime and isn't introduced until later into the series. |
| Stands are by far the best here. 2nd is Nen. Stands make the most diverse encounters of all these power systems. It is not about increasing your power level or control. Nen gets very stupid and bs at times like Gon defeating a certain buggy boi. Alluka`s ability made me disdain nen system in general for being such a deus ex machina. In the end why stands>nen Stand fights have way more strategy while nen fights are pretty much the stronger guy wins almost every time regardless of matchup. |
rohan121Dec 18, 2021 11:48 PM
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| I like Nen, Stands and Curse the most! |
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