Attack on Titan
| I honestly didn’t like season 1. Much of it I thought was goofy but season 2 really wowed me. If you’re not into it then you’re not into it, but maybe your mind will change about it as a whole after a certain point is reached like with me. If you’re not feeling up for it but wanna see if your opinion will change, consider waiting until the final season has ended and the hype is a little bit mild so it doesn’t overwhelm the atmosphere. |
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Almeidolas said: Asked and answered. This anime didn't get its praise until season 3 part 2. I'm not saying "just keep watching it gets good later" but if you already enjoy then there's no reason to not continueBtw I havent watched season 3 yet just 1 and 2 |
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| I honestly think Shingeki no Kyojin truly becomes a masterpiece after season 3, so I understand how you feel. I feel like the first two seasons are great, but starting season 3, the story goes from a guy who wants to kill titans to a war between races and the corruption the governments have. It starts to get deeper and even more impressive. I would honestly recommend you giving third season a chance, and if you didn’t like it, then that’s alright, everything is about preferences and no one can judge you because you didn’t enjoy something popular. |
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| You should watch season 3 both parts and then you'll understand. Or not, which would mean it's just not your cup of tea. I wasn't seriously impressed with seasons 1-2 either but the story went beyond what I expected and even first seasons seem more impressive now after the rewatch and picking up on details. |
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| Idk, but humanity at risk or at war with another race is an interesting plot, and if executed right, the show’s exceptional. Just depends on what you enjoy. And season 3 exemplifies the series further with character development and action. |
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| season 3 and 4 is when AOT really shines in my opinion but if you don't like it that's cool. |
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Almeidolas said: I mean i like this but it's nothing special. I don't want to be toxic at all. Just why do you like this so much. I see people saying bc of the plot but for me it's just normal. Did i not understand the plot??? Am i too new to anime??? Btw I havent watched season 3 yet just 1 and 2 PS: sorry for my English Season 1 was good, Season 2 was average. Season 3 was amazing and Season 4 is following in those foot steps, just wait, it gets way better. I felt the same way you did until season 3. P.S. If you want some recommendations with better stories in my opinion, let me know. |
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GoZha said: Almeidolas said: Asked and answered. This anime didn't get its praise until season 3 part 2. I'm not saying "just keep watching it gets good later" but if you already enjoy then there's no reason to not continueBtw I havent watched season 3 yet just 1 and 2 Not really. S3p1 is in the same level as s3p2 for me and also s2 is full of iconic moments like beast titan, armor colossal reveal, eren reiner fight and scream Pog |
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| I don't understand why all people here act like Season 1-3p1 were shit or Season 1-2 weren't good and AoT gets good only after that LUL For me as I rewatched it few times all season are amazing since ep1 till the latest. Every season is full of memorable moments, chill moments, tear moments and hops my breath intense moments but yeah seasons 3+ are more focused on plot on deeper level |
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L0sMichal0s said: I'm talking in terms of overall community approval. I also like the first 3 seasons a lot but overall they don't get as much praise as part 2 of season 3 or season 4. And to be fair season 1 is great but by itself it's not outstandingGoZha said: Asked and answered. This anime didn't get its praise until season 3 part 2. I'm not saying "just keep watching it gets good later" but if you already enjoy then there's no reason to not continue Not really. S3p1 is in the same level as s3p2 for me and also s2 is full of iconic moments like beast titan, armor colossal reveal, eren reiner fight and scream Pog |
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BlueSheDemon said: İf you ask me, AOT is perfect in any ways... But I just cant help but to be bored :( I started watching and it was amazing. But at season 2 I got bored. Then I started wacthing again a year later. And again I got bored in s2 e16... Idk whats wrong w me lol. I reeealy wanna finish this anime but cant :( There is no episode s2 ep 16 you probably watched something else |
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GoZha said: Almeidolas said: Asked and answered. This anime didn't get its praise until season 3 part 2. I'm not saying "just keep watching it gets good later" but if you already enjoy then there's no reason to not continueBtw I havent watched season 3 yet just 1 and 2 *coughs* yeah you weren't here back then. S1 was massively praised. Currently at ep 7 of s1, avoided watching it for ages because I was pretty sure I wouldn't like it, but friends kinda forced me to start. At least it's entertainingly bad so far. I'm laughing way harder than I should at over-the-top sad yelling and tragic backstories. |
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Ghemotoc said: Compare the score of season 1 to the score of season 3 part 2 or season 4. No one was calling it a masterpiece and being taken seriously when there was only 1 season. Yes, I was there back then.S1 was massively praised. |
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GoZha said: Ghemotoc said: Compare the score of season 1 to the score of season 3 part 2 or season 4. No one was calling it a masterpiece and being taken seriously when there was only 1 season. Yes, I was there back then.S1 was massively praised. This is rewritting history massively lmao. SNK's been the big talk of the community since season 1, with tons of threads every day, an excellent place in the top, and normie friends recommending it to me. I'm sure you realize it, but season 3 part 2 had 1.1M watchers when season 1 has 2.6M. Very obviously people who didn't like the first seasons are less likely to stick and rate the later seasons. It's the whole Gintama trusting the top thing again. When you have enough different sequels in the database at some point only hardcore fans keep watching and rating a show. Besides, taking a quick look at the stats of the latest SNK season, one can doubt the validity of its rating and watchers numbers. Massive number of ghost accounts voting there. To be clear, you taking fans seriously doesn't change anything to their existence. I still wouldn't take anyone claiming SNK's a masterpiece seriously nowadays... I'll be sure to stick around until the last ep to judge it fairly tho. |
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Ghemotoc said: Yes, it was popular during season 1, but no one that was being taken seriously was calling it a masterpiece like they were at the end of season 3. It was viewed as any other battle shounen. And @keragamming has made a few posts showing that the people who were rating it like 4 or below did not have much of an effect on the score. The score was higher mainly because people who rated season 1 like a 7 were raising later seasons at a 9 or 10. Look at something like My Hero Academia. It already has 4 seasons and has been more popular than SnK, at least between 2016 and 2020. No one calls it a masterpiece and the later seasons' scores are lower than the first 2. It's pretty much viewed as a pretty simple shounen. Sword Art Online is in a similar scenario. Gintama is an exception, not the rule.GoZha said: Compare the score of season 1 to the score of season 3 part 2 or season 4. No one was calling it a masterpiece and being taken seriously when there was only 1 season. Yes, I was there back then. This is rewritting history massively lmao. SNK's been the big talk of the community since season 1, with tons of threads every day, an excellent place in the top, and normie friends recommending it to me. I'm sure you realize it, but season 3 part 2 had 1.1M watchers when season 1 has 2.6M. Very obviously people who didn't like the first seasons are less likely to stick and rate the later seasons. It's the whole Gintama trusting the top thing again. When you have enough different sequels in the database at some point only hardcore fans keep watching and rating a show. Besides, taking a quick look at the stats of the latest SNK season, one can doubt the validity of its rating and watchers numbers. Massive number of ghost accounts voting there. To be clear, you taking fans seriously doesn't change anything to their existence. I still wouldn't take anyone claiming SNK's a masterpiece seriously nowadays... I'll be sure to stick around until the last ep to judge it fairly tho. A work's popularity and being the talk of the town does not mean that it is regarded as a masterpiece. Attack on Titan earned this title. |
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GoZha said: Ghemotoc said: Yes, it was popular during season 1, but no one that was being taken seriously was calling it a masterpiece like they were at the end of season 3. It was viewed as any other battle shounen. And @keragamming has made a few posts showing that the people who were rating it like 4 or below did not have much of an effect on the score. The score was higher mainly because people who rated season 1 like a 7 were raising later seasons at a 9 or 10. Look at something like My Hero Academia. It already has 4 seasons and has been more popular than SnK, at least between 2016 and 2020. No one calls it a masterpiece and the later seasons' scores are lower than the first 2. It's pretty much viewed as a pretty simple shounen. Sword Art Online is in a similar scenario. Gintama is an exception, not the rule.This is rewritting history massively lmao. SNK's been the big talk of the community since season 1, with tons of threads every day, an excellent place in the top, and normie friends recommending it to me. I'm sure you realize it, but season 3 part 2 had 1.1M watchers when season 1 has 2.6M. Very obviously people who didn't like the first seasons are less likely to stick and rate the later seasons. It's the whole Gintama trusting the top thing again. When you have enough different sequels in the database at some point only hardcore fans keep watching and rating a show. Besides, taking a quick look at the stats of the latest SNK season, one can doubt the validity of its rating and watchers numbers. Massive number of ghost accounts voting there. To be clear, you taking fans seriously doesn't change anything to their existence. I still wouldn't take anyone claiming SNK's a masterpiece seriously nowadays... I'll be sure to stick around until the last ep to judge it fairly tho. A work's popularity and being the talk of the town does not mean that it is regarded as a masterpiece. Attack on Titan earned this title. keragamming was also spamming AD about how SNK is a masterpiece and p e a k f i c t i o n since day one, and every other battle shonen "objectively" inferior to it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by bringing him up, he pretty much invalidates your whole point. You just sound like you're trying to present your personal opinions on a bunch of random battle shonens as facts. And a "lots of people think like me *citation needed* so I'm objectively right" argument doesn't help to make your point more valid. The hilarious thing is that SNK fans were already like that during S1 lmao. I see some things never change. People praised SNK s1 as a masterpiece, they praisedSNK s3p2 as a masterpiece, and they also claim Elfen Lied is a masterpiece. You can probably find people who legit believe Highschool DxD is a masterpiece. I thought it was common knowledge that there was no consensus on those things, but I see battle shonen fans still didn't get the memo lol. About "earning" anything... We'll see a decade or two after it's done airing. |
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Ghemotoc said: I brought up Keragamming because of his analysis of the stats, not his position of how this is better than all other battle shounen. If he actually said that then that is not what I am citing from him. If you think I'm trying only trying to present my personal opinion then you must not have read the part where I said that if you look at the stats, the amount people who rate 4 or below is not high, so they would not affect the score much.GoZha said: Yes, it was popular during season 1, but no one that was being taken seriously was calling it a masterpiece like they were at the end of season 3. It was viewed as any other battle shounen. And @keragamming has made a few posts showing that the people who were rating it like 4 or below did not have much of an effect on the score. The score was higher mainly because people who rated season 1 like a 7 were raising later seasons at a 9 or 10. Look at something like My Hero Academia. It already has 4 seasons and has been more popular than SnK, at least between 2016 and 2020. No one calls it a masterpiece and the later seasons' scores are lower than the first 2. It's pretty much viewed as a pretty simple shounen. Sword Art Online is in a similar scenario. Gintama is an exception, not the rule. A work's popularity and being the talk of the town does not mean that it is regarded as a masterpiece. Attack on Titan earned this title. keragamming was also spamming AD about how SNK is a masterpiece and p e a k f i c t i o n since day one, and every other battle shonen "objectively" inferior to it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by bringing him up, he pretty much invalidates your whole point. You just sound like you're trying to present your personal opinions on a bunch of random battle shonens as facts. And a "lots of people think like me *citation needed* so I'm objectively right" argument doesn't help to make your point more valid. The hilarious thing is that SNK fans were already like that during S1 lmao. I see some things never change. People praised SNK s1 as a masterpiece, they praisedSNK s3p2 as a masterpiece, and they also claim Elfen Lied is a masterpiece. You can probably find people who legit believe Highschool DxD is a masterpiece. I thought it was common knowledge that there was no consensus on those things, but I see battle shonen fans still didn't get the memo lol. About "earning" anything... We'll see a decade or two after it's done airing. You also never addressed MHA and SAO and even brought up at how you're laughing about the backstories, so if anyone's cherrypicking data and bringing their personal opinion into the matter, it's you. Not me. And yeah, bringing up what other people think is exactly what I'm doing because that's what this whole conversation is about. OP asked why people love this anime so much, not "is it objectively a masterpiece?", a question that I know can't be answered. I'm not stupid. People did not generally call SnK a masterpiece until the third season ended. If you did that during season one everyone would look at you and say "I bet it's the only anime you've watched", which sure, might actually be true. The whole "pieck fiction" meme only came up quite recently. Also how are you gonna say it's battle shounen fans who don't understand subjectivity? You literally have NGE in your favorites. You're the ones always acting like the smartest people in the room with the most elite taste. Battle shounen fans are too busy with who can beat Goku. I'll say it again. Compare season 3 part 2's and the final season's score to the first season. You don't see a similar effect with MHA or SAO, which are also massively popular. Gintama's score has been high since the first season. Waiting for an actual counterargument |
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GoZha said: Ghemotoc said: I brought up Keragamming because of his analysis of the stats, not his position of how this is better than all other battle shounen. If he actually said that then that is not what I am citing from him. If you think I'm trying only trying to present my personal opinion then you must not have read the part where I said that if you look at the stats, the amount people who rate 4 or below is not high, so they would not affect the score much.keragamming was also spamming AD about how SNK is a masterpiece and p e a k f i c t i o n since day one, and every other battle shonen "objectively" inferior to it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove by bringing him up, he pretty much invalidates your whole point. You just sound like you're trying to present your personal opinions on a bunch of random battle shonens as facts. And a "lots of people think like me *citation needed* so I'm objectively right" argument doesn't help to make your point more valid. The hilarious thing is that SNK fans were already like that during S1 lmao. I see some things never change. People praised SNK s1 as a masterpiece, they praisedSNK s3p2 as a masterpiece, and they also claim Elfen Lied is a masterpiece. You can probably find people who legit believe Highschool DxD is a masterpiece. I thought it was common knowledge that there was no consensus on those things, but I see battle shonen fans still didn't get the memo lol. About "earning" anything... We'll see a decade or two after it's done airing. You also never addressed MHA and SAO and even brought up at how you're laughing about the backstories, so if anyone's cherrypicking data and bringing their personal opinion into the matter, it's you. Not me. And yeah, bringing up what other people think is exactly what I'm doing because that's what this whole conversation is about. OP asked why people love this anime so much, not "is it objectively a masterpiece?", a question that I know can't be answered. I'm not stupid. People did not generally call SnK a masterpiece until the third season ended. If you did that during season one everyone would look at you and say "I bet it's the only anime you've watched", which sure, might actually be true. The whole "pieck fiction" meme only came up quite recently. Also how are you gonna say it's battle shounen fans who don't understand subjectivity? You literally have NGE in your favorites. You're the ones always acting like the smartest people in the room with the most elite taste. Battle shounen fans are too busy with who can beat Goku. I'll say it again. Compare season 3 part 2's and the final season's score to the first season. You don't see a similar effect with MHA or SAO, which are also massively popular. Gintama's score has been high since the first season. Waiting for an actual counterargument Back in 2013 I wasn't on MAL but so many people were already praising it as the best series of all time and masterpiece. Just because it became more prominent now doesn't invalidate that it was already a huge thing back then. Even many people I met in rl were talking about it. There's really no significant difference between back then and now, only that there are more anime watcher online in general. You also gotta consider that people love to disregard everything said or done before just because they think things got suddenly better. While I see some legitness to this in terms of AoT's plot progression, you can't really deny that it's also influenced by recency bias to a certain degree. One Piece fans for instance love to hype up certain milestones and arcs. Episode 300, no episode 400 is where One Piece becomes a masterpiece, this arc is the arc is where things get going for real and more random statements along these lines. Same people were saying the exact same thing about episode 200 or arcs before. These people have 0 credibility because they drop their prior held beliefs in favor for something newer or "better", at least for from their perspective. And you can observe a similar phenomenom when it comes to AoT These people represent the community and general beliefs, whether you like it or not. A better example of a series which got praise later down the line is Black Cover tbh. There's an actual contrast worth bringing up. |
FMmatronMar 10, 2021 9:19 AM
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GoZha said: I'm not stupid. People did not generally call SnK a masterpiece until the third season ended. If you did that during season one everyone would look at you and say "I bet it's the only anime you've watched", which sure, might actually be true. The whole "pieck fiction" meme only came up quite recently. Also how are you gonna say it's battle shounen fans who don't understand subjectivity? You literally have NGE in your favorites. You're the ones always acting like the smartest people in the room with the most elite taste. Battle shounen fans are too busy with who can beat Goku. Hilariously out of touch and elitist bullshit lol. I don't have to adress any point regarding SAO's quality or reputation because my answer was simply aimed at the "nobody praised SNK before s3p2". Which is obviously wrong. You can read what FMmatron posted, or just dig the forum for 2016 threads. Or you can keep spouting nonsense, presenting them as facts, and calling others elitists when they burst your bubble. The fact that you randomly brought up the age-old "NGE=elitist" meme is priceless too. Nothing beats seeing an actual elitist call others that way lol. Because you in this thread = "haha s3p2 is p e a k f i c t i o n and my buddies agree with me, anyone who says otherwise should be loled at (like SNK s1 fans or SAO fans, or those damn NGE elitists!" Bruh. |
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FMmatron said: People get clowned on for saying Demon Slayer and MHA are masterpieces, and I think a similar thing happened during season 1 of SnK. People were around to call it a masterpiece but that was also met with "OvErRaTeD". Both are extremely popular but I'd doubt that saying KnY or BnHA is a masterpiece would be met with as much acceptance as saying SnK is a masterpiece.GoZha said: I brought up Keragamming because of his analysis of the stats, not his position of how this is better than all other battle shounen. If he actually said that then that is not what I am citing from him. If you think I'm trying only trying to present my personal opinion then you must not have read the part where I said that if you look at the stats, the amount people who rate 4 or below is not high, so they would not affect the score much. You also never addressed MHA and SAO and even brought up at how you're laughing about the backstories, so if anyone's cherrypicking data and bringing their personal opinion into the matter, it's you. Not me. And yeah, bringing up what other people think is exactly what I'm doing because that's what this whole conversation is about. OP asked why people love this anime so much, not "is it objectively a masterpiece?", a question that I know can't be answered. I'm not stupid. People did not generally call SnK a masterpiece until the third season ended. If you did that during season one everyone would look at you and say "I bet it's the only anime you've watched", which sure, might actually be true. The whole "pieck fiction" meme only came up quite recently. Also how are you gonna say it's battle shounen fans who don't understand subjectivity? You literally have NGE in your favorites. You're the ones always acting like the smartest people in the room with the most elite taste. Battle shounen fans are too busy with who can beat Goku. I'll say it again. Compare season 3 part 2's and the final season's score to the first season. You don't see a similar effect with MHA or SAO, which are also massively popular. Gintama's score has been high since the first season. Waiting for an actual counterargument Back in 2013 I wasn't on MAL but so many people were already praising it as the best series of all time and masterpiece. Just because it became more prominent now doesn't invalidate that it was already a huge thing back then. Even many people I met in rl were talking about it. There's really no significant difference between back then and now, only that there are more anime watcher online in general. You also gotta consider that people love to disregard everything said or done before just because they think things got suddenly better. While I see some legitness to this in terms of AoT's plot progression, you can't really deny that it's also influenced by recency bias to a certain degree. One Piece fans for instance love to hype up certain milestones and arcs. Episode 300, no episode 400 is where One Piece becomes a masterpiece, this arc is the arc is where things get going for real and more random statements along these lines. Same people were saying the exact same thing about episode 200 or arcs before. These people have 0 credibility because they drop their prior held beliefs in favor for something newer or "better", at least for from their perspective. And you can observe a similar phenomenom when it comes to AoT These people represent the community and general beliefs, whether you like it or not. A better example of a series which got praise later down the line is Black Cover tbh. There's an actual contrast worth bringing up. Since some people can't read, I am not saying anything is or isn't a masterpiece. I am talking about how things are generally looked at. So if you want to argue with me then stay on topic. Ghemotoc said: The more you respond the more I'm convinced that you can't read. I never once said s3p2 is peak fiction, and I didn't say nobody praised SnK before it either. I said it used to not get the praise that it gets now. Sure people called it a masterpiece back then but it was equally met with tons of "overrated" in response. There are not nearly as many "overrated"s anymore. Look at Demon Slayer, something that some people also call a masterpiece, but is met with shit tons more "overrated" than SnK.GoZha said: I'm not stupid. People did not generally call SnK a masterpiece until the third season ended. If you did that during season one everyone would look at you and say "I bet it's the only anime you've watched", which sure, might actually be true. The whole "pieck fiction" meme only came up quite recently. Also how are you gonna say it's battle shounen fans who don't understand subjectivity? You literally have NGE in your favorites. You're the ones always acting like the smartest people in the room with the most elite taste. Battle shounen fans are too busy with who can beat Goku. Hilariously out of touch and elitist bullshit lol. I don't have to adress any point regarding SAO's quality or reputation because my answer was simply aimed at the "nobody praised SNK before s3p2". Which is obviously wrong. You can read what FMmatron posted, or just dig the forum for 2016 threads. Or you can keep spouting nonsense, presenting them as facts, and calling others elitists when they burst your bubble. The fact that you randomly brought up the age-old "NGE=elitist" meme is priceless too. Nothing beats seeing an actual elitist call others that way lol. Because you in this thread = "haha s3p2 is p e a k f i c t i o n and my buddies agree with me, anyone who says otherwise should be loled at (like SNK s1 fans or SAO fans, or those damn NGE elitists!" Bruh. I only brought up NGE fans because you did that about battle shounen fans first lol don't be a hypocrite. Also I'd like to know what the fuck I've done that would indicate elitism You started the discussion about the sequel effect, then I debunked you and suddenly you don't wanna talk about it anymore. Hmm.... It's almost like... you know you're wrong! 😮😮😮 |
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