| It is up to society to come up with vegetarian/vegan alternatives to meat in a lab that taste as good as meat to wean me off of meat. Coming up with recipes and processing the foods like meat has been, is too hard for an individual. Vegetarianism will become the norm, but it will take time. The dishes are going to have to be as tasty and filling as meat before people consider the alternative. Otherwise they won't switch. I cook a lot but if I subsisted on veggies only then I'd be hungry all the time. Plus these patterns go back to childhood (cooking meat and knowing the dishes that make meat tasty). If society wants to make vegetarianism more mainstream, cheap like meat, just as if not more filling, just as if not more tasty, with preselected dishes which everyone can crave like before, then who am I to disagree? What is the vegetarian alternative to: spaghetti and meatballs, shrimp and cocktail sauce, hamburgers, hot dogs, ribs, bbq, cajun fish dishes, oysters, all the amazing things I've had since I was born. If you want to make it in a lab and I can't tell the difference and it's CHEAPER, well then I think a lot of people will become vegans without even thinking twice. Meat is not great for your diet. But the first thing we need to do is ban added sugars in foods, as well as enriched flours. All food should be 50% organic, whole wheat with no added sugar. If we can't even live up to that standard to reduce obesity, then what chance does vegetarianism have? The biggest problem for me is imagining vegetarian dishes that will be as tasty as meat. I can't. |
| I swear, half of this posts are just shit-posting and it is equally hilarious and sad. I am a "eat meat once a week" person. I am in the very lucky position to have access to a butcher who only operates locally and who makes sure the animals were raised, at worst, a few kilometres away from his shop. I tried regular meat from a super market several times and it just doesn't taste good at all so that's the reason why I might go vegetarian once our butcher goes out of business. |
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149597871 said: I just said 'cause it's CLEARLY obvious most people have this line of thinking, can't people come up with actual new arguments? If you don't have any, just skip it over, you kinda sound like a normie douchbag saying "I eat meat cause it tastes good" and that's it.Karote said: Why do people always use the same freaking argument "cause it tastes good"? I think they are just being honest. What are they supposed to say? |
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Karote said: I just said 'cause it's CLEARLY obvious most people have this line of thinking, can't people come up with actual new arguments? If you don't have any, just skip it over, you kinda sound like a normie douchbag saying "I eat meat cause it tastes good" and that's it. But Karote... It tastes so darn good. But yeah. It takes a lot more effort to not eat meat and while slaughterhouses are quite horrifying especially in the US, the vegan movement is going to take some time to win us all over. There's cultural reasons people would go for meat as well, especially pork in places like Spain where it's in so many dishes. |
| I've been here way too long... |
| It's also hilarious how most people here also believe Global Warming is man-made, and don't realize that the meat industry is the main reason. _cotillion said: Because like 80% of the people are saying the same thing like robots?Karote said: If you don't have any, just skip it over, you kinda sound like a normie douchbag saying "I eat meat cause it tastes good" and that's it. lmao, how is that sounding like a normie douchebag? Mod edit: merged double posts. |
Mol0koJul 13, 2020 2:08 PM
| Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
| It's filling, it's a great source of proteins, and it's tasty. Replacing meat proteins would mean much more money spent on food. Non-meat filling food is expensive - nuts, for example, are sooo pricey. Plus meat is relatively safe for my health, unlike fish, mushrooms, dairy, or many types of nuts. Vegan cooking doesn't look save or appealing to me - it has too many components to offset the lack of natural meat umami. Additionally, I live in a northern and thus meat eating region. I mean it depends on the place you live in. People who live near equator, where there's a ton of edible vegetation, have different circumstances from people who live at the north, where most of veg is imported. We let some ethnicities hunt and eat whales, for example, specifically because food depends on what's available, and people develop alongside this. |
_cotillion said: How it doesn't??Karote said: Because like 80% of the people are saying the same thing like robots? Dude that makes no sense at all. Also meat industry is the main reason for global warming...really? You have these giant corporations that cause pollution and don't give a fuck, but how is that my fault? Here's a cute animated video for you to get a little more educated. |
| Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
| I eat meat because it is an easy source of protein for me, as I am allergic to stuff like milk and eggs. It's fairly cheap. I was raised on it and I see no reason to switch, especially as I have tried a few alternatives like veggie sausages, which were rank. I loathe the taste of most vegetables and can't even begin to imagine trying to live off them. Meat tastes good too, I guess. Nothing beats a beef burger or a hot dog in the evening, especially if you're a busy student like me who has no experience nor wish to learn cooking. Not really going to waste my time looking for an alternative to a perfectly edible, tasty and cheap food for me. |
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_cotillion said: If you can afford to eat healthy vegan/vegetarian diet, you are much better than most of world's population. And that's not including fact that many people have allergies and dietary restrictions and so on. You are speaking from position of privilege already and it's very easy to be brave atop the castle walls I'm sorry, but an allergy does not bar you from adopting the diet. Also the argument that it is unaffordable is a myth. There are various cultures in all corners of the world that are practicing vegetarianism or veganism. For the most part I think the fact that most of us are socialised into eating meat is just going to be too strong for most people to consider giving it up. It's something we share with our friends and families, at special occassions, giving and recieving as a gift. Food has a lot of importance in all cultures. It's quite a big ask for someone to remove themselves from all of that! I think a good way to convince more people is to cook to a high standard, and show everyone that there's far more to offer than what people usually think of. There are health benefits to including vegetarian meals in your rotation as well. With arguments like this we can encourage people to reduce their intake, and I think that's a more realistic goal. Anyone who has the inclincation to become a full vegetarian/vegan is likely going to end up making that journey by themselves. |
Illuminatli said: Why are you still eating meat? Because I enjoy it and prefer a wide range of flavors, textures, and sensory experiences in my diet. Also, it doesn't produce any downside for me I actually care about. Illuminatli said: Now, it is true that back in the day, in the prehistoric era, it was necessary to eat meat to survive and increase brain capacity. However, that is not the case anymore today. Even if that's the case and humans can survive as vegetarians or vegans rather than omnivores, it's a pretty fallacious line of argument to suggest that means therefore that is what should be done. People don't have to do many things to survive, at the base biological level, other than breathe in oxygen and exhale carbon, eat some nutrients, drink water or liquids which contain water, sleep, urinate, and defecate. How many things do you and everyone else in the world do on a daily basis which are more than those named things which constitute the only list of necessary essentials for physical survival? Is the whole point and goal of life just to survive and exist? Forget eating meat - Why does anyone do anything other than breathe, eat, drink, sleep, and eliminate waste? Because it contributes to their emotional well-being and enriches their mind, life, and sense of self in some way? Because they derive pleasure from it. It's no different than why someone eats any particular meal besides plain crackers or bread and water. In the past, people ate meat to survive. In the modern information and communications age, a lot of people need an actual reason to survive rather than just go through constant mundane drudgery of life for its own sake. They need pleasure and novelty. And something to look forward to. That can be a whole range of experiences and activities which are not necessary for basic physical survival, but are done, even in a person with knowledge in a meta sort of way, because they simply like doing it and that's reason enough. There is no further justification required. Illuminatli said: We can get all our nutrients from plant-based products Again, you can do a lot of things to just survive. It doesn't mean you or the particular hypothetical person in question would want to and consider it a pleasant and worthwhile experience. And eating strictly plants would still leave humans as consumers. As are all other animals. And all fungi. And all bacteria. And all protists. Plants are the only producers. So humans, consumers, are just eating other consumers. The only thing the planet probably actually needs to thrive are the plants themselves who literally only require sunlight and water to sustain themselves by converting it to food and their requisite nutrition via photosynthesis. All animals, including humans, are more like window dressing and freeloaders off of that system. Illuminatli said: and live a longer life than people who frequently eat (especially red) meat. I have no desire to live a longer life for its own sake if that life is deprived of the things I enjoy. Otherwise I would spend all my time just eating roots and berries and the most commonly doctor-recommended and approved foodstuffs, jogging miles and miles for hours to exercise, never touching a single food or beverage item I actually cared about and derived satisfaction from, never touch anything with alcohol or caffeine, never sat in place too long, gave up any sedentary or superfluous hobby or passion like watching films and serials, listening to music, writing, etc. and instead just chopped firewood and built muscles all day. I personally don't see any point, reason, or motivation behind existing longer just to exist when I don't enjoy the term of existence. So "longer" or "longest possible" life when you have to live like a deprived prisoner or stoic chaste monk holds zero appeal to me. I don't want to live even a year of that type of life, let alone decades. We're already shackled by this prison of flesh being shackled by its biological limits and constraints. To me, this body is just a vessel and puppet for my consciousness. I have absolutely no intention of living like a non-human animal with fewer choices and less variety and access to all existence has to offer while relegated to it. I seek everything that's within my physical power to think, say, do, and experience. And self-imposing a limitation gains me nothing other than deference to some imaginary human construct of a morality or ideology which I don't agree with and consider false, like most if not all manmade ideologies. Illuminatli said: What is your motivation behind eating meat? Is it the taste? Of course the taste primarily - the same reason for eating or drinking anything else in the world beyond what's required for sustenance. Illuminatli said: Are you really that shallow I don't see what it has to do with shallowness as a trait, which I associate more with vanity. Or pride. And neither pride nor shame are emotions which hold an iota of weight or resonate with me at all, as I neither feel and experience nor identify with them in any way. I would say you have to have pride to be shallow. I don't have any pride. I believe I'm a member of a species of animal and therefore not removed from nature anymore than any other animal or plant or bacterial or fungal or protist species, or the sun, stars, and cosmic rays in the vastness of space or the world ocean teeming with life. I'm not separate from all that life and tangible material existence. And as such I can and will do anything within my power which I desire and don't believe in adhering to the false constraints other humans seek to prop up and impose over other humans' heads. If it's within my power to do, then it's natural, since I'm not some form of deity intervening in the world from outside of it but a product and subset of it. Anything a human does is as natural as anything a beetle or reindeer or algae does. Illuminatli said: and do you really want animals to be breeded and killed just for your enjoyment? I look at the big picture. What loss are the other remaining animals, including humanity, or all of the other biologically classified and sorted kingdoms of life, or the planet as a whole and its integral ecosystem, the Milky Way galaxy, or the universe losing from the loss of those animals, their deaths? And I don't apply this mentality only to non-human animals. The remaining humans, all the other species, and the planet itself wouldn't lose out on anything either and would realistically probably only gain and benefit if 5 billion or more humans disappeared tomorrow too. So I don't consider it intellectually honest to act as if this is any great loss in the grand scheme of things, other than a puerile and philosophically insolvent and incongruous appeal to emotion, which means nothing to me. I'll decide what emotions I feel about who and what and when, and it isn't something I let others program an ideology into me for. Illuminatli said: I'm not trying to guilt-trip you Neither you nor anyone else in this world would ever be capable of doing so in the first place since I don't think that way. Illuminatli said: I just want to know your motivations. Hopefully my overview was sufficient even if we are philosophically and ideologically at odds. It isn't a gap which will be bridged either, I suspect, so it would be futile to pursue any discussion with that as a motive. Illuminatli said: Please enlighten me, and hey, maybe you can even change my mind. I doubt I changed your mind either, since most folks (forgive the assumption of lumping you in with the general "everyone else" category since I don't know you well at all and can only assume) have an ingrained ideology which they subconsciously identify with on a tribal and emotional level and you need to appeal to them from within that framework to even have any reasonable shot at changing their mind on even a minor issue, but I didn't seek to do that here. I only explained my side. And before you or anyone else responds that they don't have an ideology, in my experience the most militant zealots are people whose ideology is invisible to themselves because they don't see it as an ideology, as only everyone else's ideology is visible to them and it's something they view as an external, artificial construct, whereas their own ideology is and can only be normality - a "logical" understanding of reality. Everyone else is just stupid or ignorant, crazy, or "evil". Illuminatli said: What if humans tasted damn delicious, (do we know?) would you also eat humans? Humans have a taste most comparable to pork. It isn't something I've tried yet, but that is the case according to most testimony on the subject from verified cannibals. |
WatchTillTandavaJul 13, 2020 3:52 PM
| Speaking as someone with little money to go towards food, a pack of hotdogs is pretty cheap and a nice change of flavor profile from ramen every day. |
| Hi :) |
| umm hello not everyone wants to look like their just got freed from concentration camp.. |
| Simply because I tried to go completely animal product free for about 6 months based on ethical concerns. Found myself with a constant fever for the last month, and it just went away when I reintroduced some meat. That said, I'm open to attempt at trimming animal products. This time, however, I would go in with a more complete knowledge of the nutritional deficiencies a vegan should be concerned about. And yes, there are multiple deficiencies to keep in mind. For example, here's a study showing vegetarians getting increased cognitive scores when they supplemented creatine, which they wouldn't be able to find in a natural vegetarian diet. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1691485/ For now I'm fine paying a little extra to eat pasture raised meat. |
_cotillion said: LMAO DUDE, I'm pretty sure you have NOT watched the video or just did not understand it at all."80% of people saying something" in no way equates to them acting like "normie douchebags" just because you don't like it. I know the vid. And ask you...so what? The animals have never been treated well, I have seen animal slaughtering and was to some occasions where animal was being slaughtered(it's big even with cooking and stuff). We are all part of ecosystem and us killing animals is no different than other animals killing them. There is no need to feel sorry for it. If the things weren't as they were, meat would have been much more expensive, as would dairy and other animal products and lot of poorer countries wouldn't be able to afford them either. If you can afford to eat healthy vegan/vegetarian diet, you are much better than most of world's population. And that's not including fact that many people have allergies and dietary restrictions and so on. You are speaking from position of privilege already and it's very easy to be brave atop the castle walls. My personal take, we ought to cut down on how much junkfood we create and use those resources, whether land or milk/whatever itself to put them into healthier food. Cut out shitty fastfoods, candy bars and all that disgusting crap that is just bad for your body. Plus GMOs could helper better regulate industry. Things like Golden Rice could be game changers. Everyone who's well aware knows that most of the CO2 emission comes from greenhouse polution, but you're doing your best to deny that lol. Like, no offense, but are you schizophrenic or what? I stopped reading when you said that animals are "treated" properly in lifestocks nor never talked about vegan food, I'm not vegan myself. ? I have never mentioned about animal mistreating once, and regardless of that, the industry is still going to crops the create greenhouse CO2, "organic" or not, that's the whole point of it. If you support "lifestock meat consumption", don't call youself an anti climate change agent, you're just being pro it. |
| Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
| tbf if you're trying to argue against a vegan diet with someone who actually knows what they are talking about, you'll lose the only way for us meat eaters to justify said act is through morality and enjoyment |
_cotillion said: but smugly dismissing points and attacking character is the height of forum enjoyment Karote said: LMAO DUDE, I'm pretty sure you have NOT watched the video or just did not understand it at all. Everyone who's well aware knows that most of the CO2 emission comes from greenhouse polution, but you're doing your best to deny that lol. Like, no offense, but are you schizophrenic or what? I stopped reading when you said that animals are "treated" properly in lifestocks nor never talked about vegan food, I'm not vegan myself. ? I have never mentioned about animal mistreating once, and regardless of that, the industry is still going to crops the create greenhouse CO2, "organic" or not, that's the whole point of it. If you support "lifestock meat consumption", don't call youself an anti climate change agent, you're just being pro it. Nice ad hominem. I was addressing the points in video. Have you seen it lmao? You suffer from very poor reading comprehension. Or is it schizophrenia and are you projecting? Where did that even come from lmao. Because you seem to see what you want, rather than what I am saying. Just look at the quoted text. Just like with the "normie douchebags". You extrapolate the most bizarre shit. I know it's easy to act smug, but try a little harder to do more than that. Because you are not saying anything. So if you want to rumble, try to addressing some points of what I said. |
| because it tastes good you stupid faggot |
| > Are you really that shallow and do you really want animals to be breeded and killed just for your enjoyment > I'm not trying to guilt trip you or anything nigga what? let me put it like this. If the majority of people were given an opportunity, they get ten dollars for every human they poof out of existence, there would be a lot of billionaires in this forum. People dont have empathy for some stupid dumb fucking pig, its a goddamn pig i dont give a shit what they do to it before it dies. I eat it and it tastes good as fuck on me plate. People have no reason to care about shit that doesnt effect them. |
_cotillion said: oh yeah, i agreehverfa said: but smugly dismissing points and attacking character is the height of forum enjoyment Reading what I wrote, it's kind of hard for me to complain about being smug asshole, isn't it. hehe But I just don't like someone dismissing what someone said completely like that. That's kind of where I draw the line. Though to add to what you were saying about how hard it is to argue against vegan, switching from meat to some replacement, like lab meat is would be good, but it's just not feasible right now for everyone and being judgmental and ignoring circumstances of lives of many people is top tier irony, when they are for advocating for animal rights, etc. They have sympathy for animals but not their own kind. people misinterpret an ideal for a reality i do think in the far future, people will look back and think that we were monsters for eating meat, or at least the way we do but it's incredibly hard to morally judge someone for doing so when society is built around it (also, i am morally alright with eating meat regardless of that since i don't think animals and humans deserve the same consideration but that is beside the point) |
PMD said: i feel like your argument just turned me vegan> Are you really that shallow and do you really want animals to be breeded and killed just for your enjoyment > I'm not trying to guilt trip you or anything nigga what? let me put it like this. If the majority of people were given an opportunity, they get ten dollars for every human they poof out of existence, there would be a lot of billionaires in this forum. People dont have empathy for some stupid dumb fucking pig, its a goddamn pig i dont give a shit what they do to it before it dies. I eat it and it tastes good as fuck on me plate. People have no reason to care about shit that doesnt effect them. |
PMD said: > Are you really that shallow and do you really want animals to be breeded and killed just for your enjoyment > I'm not trying to guilt trip you or anything nigga what? let me put it like this. If the majority of people were given an opportunity, they get ten dollars for every human they poof out of existence, there would be a lot of billionaires in this forum. People dont have empathy for some stupid dumb fucking pig, its a goddamn pig i dont give a shit what they do to it before it dies. I eat it and it tastes good as fuck on me plate. People have no reason to care about shit that doesnt effect them. It's "affect", kid. Maybe spend a little more time practicing your basic english and a little less time being an edgelord online. |
| The real questions is: Why should I stop eating meat? |
| ¿Existe una razón para que vivas en este mundo? |
Karote said: I just said 'cause it's CLEARLY obvious most people have this line of thinking, can't people come up with actual new arguments? If you don't have any, just skip it over, you kinda sound like a normie douchbag saying "I eat meat cause it tastes good" and that's it. Well, if you ask someone why they watch anime and they tell you "because I like it" would it be a douchebag thing to say? You don't need intricate arguments for something that basic and natural. As the person above me asks, why should I stop eating meat? That is obviously out of the ordinary and needs an explanation. Is it healthy? Nobody knows. Is it morally right? No. Would my meals taste better? Definitely not. Is it more convenient? Absolutely 100% not. |
149597871Jul 13, 2020 5:21 PM
Peaceful_Critic said: _cotillion said: I agree with your last point, I really don't see what issue people have with people eating animals, as they don't have issues with animals eating other animals. We are all part of ecosystem. We aren't above it. That's an appeal to nature. Just because animals do it, doesn't mean we should also do the thing. Animals don't live in a society, they do what they need to in order to survive. Humans are above that as we can live effortlessly without the struggle of nature, and therefore, stricter moral concepts apply to us when it wouldn't for animals. Animals do live in a society though it just depends on the animal in question. They have their own morals and social rules. How humans live isn't really different from hive brained animals. Our system is just more complex not completely separate. Due to it being more complex it can differ from other animals in some ways and be same in others. This doesn't really work as an argument for or against. |
| Eating meat has been part of our society for long enough for me to feel like it's completely natural to eat it without guilt. I like it, it tastes good. That's really all there is to it. The fact that meat is not as healthy as it used to be because of human interference and mass breeding, is a whole different story though. |
物事は良くなりますか ？ |
Okazaki93 said: PMD said: > Are you really that shallow and do you really want animals to be breeded and killed just for your enjoyment > I'm not trying to guilt trip you or anything nigga what? let me put it like this. If the majority of people were given an opportunity, they get ten dollars for every human they poof out of existence, there would be a lot of billionaires in this forum. People dont have empathy for some stupid dumb fucking pig, its a goddamn pig i dont give a shit what they do to it before it dies. I eat it and it tastes good as fuck on me plate. People have no reason to care about shit that doesnt effect them. It's "affect", kid. Maybe spend a little more time practicing your basic english and a little less time being an edgelord online. being an edgelord on line is what brings me happiness. Let me have this |
hverfa said: PMD said: i feel like your argument just turned me vegan> Are you really that shallow and do you really want animals to be breeded and killed just for your enjoyment > I'm not trying to guilt trip you or anything nigga what? let me put it like this. If the majority of people were given an opportunity, they get ten dollars for every human they poof out of existence, there would be a lot of billionaires in this forum. People dont have empathy for some stupid dumb fucking pig, its a goddamn pig i dont give a shit what they do to it before it dies. I eat it and it tastes good as fuck on me plate. People have no reason to care about shit that doesnt effect them. thats how i do it baby im such a fuckin champ |
PMD said: Okazaki93 said: It's "affect", kid. Maybe spend a little more time practicing your basic english and a little less time being an edgelord online. being an edgelord on line is what brings me happiness. Let me have this Roger that. You may proceed, carry on then. |
| @_cotillion Aww okay, sorry if facts if facts and arguments hurt your feelings :) 149597871 said: The thing is, we are in a forum and everybody is literally saying the same thing. Can't anyone bother to read/expect the other posts and add at least a little trace of argumentation to theirs instead of being ordinary?Karote said: I just said 'cause it's CLEARLY obvious most people have this line of thinking, can't people come up with actual new arguments? If you don't have any, just skip it over, you kinda sound like a normie douchbag saying "I eat meat cause it tastes good" and that's it. Well, if you ask someone why they watch anime and they tell you "because I like it" would it be a douchebag thing to say? You don't need intricate arguments for something that basic and natural. Just being honest, I say "douchbag", because it's kind of annoying how normie and ordinary people tend to be. Also meat is not a hobbie, it's a much more delicate subject than "anime". And even so, it would feel ordinary if people only said that, right? Even though I don't expect that happening in an anime forum why they like anime, I would expect weebs to be expressing like Quora posters. But yeah, what can I do? People like being ordinary. I expected more from MAL users. |
| Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
| Simple, I will anything I can. I am just that hungry. |
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| I'm not necessarily against going vegan, but I don't see whats wrong with eating meat if the animal lived cage-free etc etc. |
| a few reasons tbh: -It tastes good -I was taught to not be picky about my food (EDIT: Food is food. Shouldn't matter where it comes from. If anything, not eating it disrespects the animal more, since you're leaving it's remains to rot and essentially spitting on the reason it died in the first place. To feed people and help sustain them) -Humans are apart of the food chain too. No one complains about lions constantly eating meat (Raw meat as well). If lions could eat a species of animal for years and years. I don't see why we can't IMO (Ngl this is sorta a dumb thread. It's just gonna make people think you're attempting at forcing your opinions/world views on them) |
RaverzJul 13, 2020 11:24 PM
| "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is." -Kino's Journey |
Raverz said: a few reasons tbh: -It tastes good -I was taught to not be picky about my food -Humans are apart of the food chain too. No one complains about lions constantly eating meat (Raw meat as well). If lions could eat a species of animal for years and years. I don't see why we can't IMO (Ngl this is sorta a dumb thread. It's just gonna make people think you're attempting at forcing your opinions/world views on them) Your second point sounds more like a reason not to eat meat beyond the Buddhist approach of eating meat only when offered to you. |
traed said: Raverz said: a few reasons tbh: -It tastes good -I was taught to not be picky about my food -Humans are apart of the food chain too. No one complains about lions constantly eating meat (Raw meat as well). If lions could eat a species of animal for years and years. I don't see why we can't IMO (Ngl this is sorta a dumb thread. It's just gonna make people think you're attempting at forcing your opinions/world views on them) Your second point sounds more like a reason not to eat meat beyond the Buddhist approach of eating meat only when offered to you. You think so? I meant it in the way of refusing to waste food. Probably should have worded that better lol. Thanks tho |
| "The world is not beautiful, therefore it is." -Kino's Journey |
| because it tastes good of course!!! |
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| cuz plants are ugly |
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Raverz said: traed said: Your second point sounds more like a reason not to eat meat beyond the Buddhist approach of eating meat only when offered to you. You think so? I meant it in the way of refusing to waste food. Probably should have worded that better lol. Thanks tho Pickiness usually implies being specific about the taste and exact food you want. The later does imply not being wastful but again this still can also be applied to the Buddhist approach of vegetarianism where they aren't strict about it and also can apply to a low level freeganism which would be removing the anticonsumerist stance of it though which is a big part of freeganism. |
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