| Everything is okay as long as it is from Japan. I don't need korean or chinese crap. Database rules should be strict here. Change it so it allows all stuff from Japan but other stuff should get denied even if it published somewhere. (I think AniDB - which focuses on anime only - is a lot stricter here. Forbids non-japanese anime I think. Similar it should be done with manga and on MAL.) |
| This is in place to prevent cheaply made fan comics, doujins and h manga flooding the site. |
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| The fact that you used words like "boomer" to say this idea may make it hard for them to even consider this.Try talking more formal. Netsui-sama said: Luthandorius said: Everything is okay as long as it is from Japan. I don't need korean or chinese crap. Why? What is so wrong with having non-Japanese works on MAL? That seems unnecessarily exclusive and maybe a little racist, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm curious whether you have genuine logic and reasoning that backs up your POV? MSAtlos said: This is in place to prevent cheaply made fan comics, doujins and h manga flooding the site. Many H-manga have physical releases and are allowed. So it really isn't stopping that. If they dont want h-manga, they could easily just deny 18+ works. As far as cheap fan manga, I agree that you shouldn't be able to draw some random fanfiction, and have it get on MAL. You could easily adjust the rule to allow officially licensed and published, original works, both physical & online. This would allow everything that should be here and exclude fan creations. Also, another point here; what is allowed should never be determined by the quality of the art or writing. The publisher certainly can and they should - they want to make money. But if its officially published, who is anyone to decide what isn't "good enough" to be on here. This way of ruling would be very dangerous. The name is MyAnimeList, what is rule 1 to be an anime? Being made in Japan so yeah you get it.This discussion has been made many times before on Avatar.If you want webtoons here first make Avatar win.(why tf did you even relate this to racism?) I've also seen some webtoon ads on youtube not gonna lie they all look cliched and your everyday romance so no I'm not a fan of this idea. And about your h manga thing: They allow h mangas here that are kinda official but they don't allow doujinshis or fan-made stuff |
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| Yes, I agree. Waiting until it's published, so you can hold it in your hands and have a physical object to love from the freaking bottom of your heart is heaven, yes. BUT the only thing close to me actually getting the chance of buying a manhwa was two city's away and mom wouldn't let me buy it, because guess what it was? Killing Stalking, both parts even. I mean I've read it anyways, but I couldn't hold the manhwa in my hands. And this wasn't an example of a webtoon, but I'm trying to say that's exactly the same situation here. I'm actually way closer to buying manga than manhwa and everything else you find on webtoon or even doujinshis, sooo- really. And even if it'd be no problem for me, I don't think I'm the only one in this situation here. I mean that's the reason I read webtoons on webtoon and MAL should add them even if they haven't been published- my opinion |
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Anastacius said: I know what webtoon's are but allow webtoon's you allow doujin's, they fall in the same catagory.Fatefag said: The fact that you used words like "boomer" to say this idea may make it hard for them to even consider this.Try talking more formal. The name is MyAnimeList, what is rule 1 to be an anime? Being made in Japan so yeah you get it.This discussion has been made many times before on Avatar.If you want webtoons here first make Avatar win.(why tf did you even relate this to racism?) I've also seen some webtoon ads on youtube not gonna lie they all look cliched and your everyday romance so no I'm not a fan of this idea. Did you thoroughly check the database first before you posted some Bs? First off, the number one rule in anime is that its made in Japan and how they should only allow anime from Japan but there are already anime here from China such as Bloodivores and Tales of demons and Gods, and we weren't even talking about MyAnimeList adding Korean or Chinese anime because they already had them. We were talking about Webtoons without physical copies but understand that they were licensed so it isn't some garbage fan-fictions that didn't get licensed. Also, you can't judge all Webtoons based off one youtube add lol. That's like basing off all anime with hentai because in one anime you saw some tits like wtf? MyAnimeList only adds anime from Asia not from just Japan like i just mentioned. But they don't add avatar because it's american. Same with Castlevania. They're both American shows that use the same animation like anime. MSAtlos said: This is in place to prevent cheaply made fan comics, doujins and h manga flooding the site. Webtoons aren't Fan-fics, you know? They're licensed. So i don't think you know what Webtoons are in the first place. Also H manga are already in the site lol, but wtf does this got anything to do with webtoons? |
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DateYutaka said: Because all of CLAMP'S work is important in some regard, but if its just you average joe with his Naruto x Bluma fan comic no ones going to care. It is a database after allDamselflies said: Easy solution then, only valid webtoon providers like Lezhin, that should solve that. if soor them why do stuff like CLAMP's Eerly saint saei Doujin witch are not in the db |
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Damselflies said: You'll have to ask a mod that, not me.MSAtlos said: This is in place to prevent cheaply made fan comics, doujins and h manga flooding the site. Also, everything being added already has to go through approval, so they are already filtering out the stuff that shouldn't belong here, why not just do the same for fan made toons and such. |
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DateYutaka said: I was saying it's only on the DB because it was CLAMP I wasn't saying it wasn't on the DBMSAtlos said: Because all of CLAMP'S work is important in some regard, but if its just you average joe with his Naruto x Bluma fan comic no ones going to care. It is a database after all nope the CLAMP seiya Doujin is on in the DB |
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| there is already massive backlog of manga and lns to be approved. might be an issue |
| I’m not an expert on webtoons so sorry if I’m wrong here but don’t most of if not all the webtoons listed here need to have been published or licenced in Japan. I thought that was like a rule that all webtoons here must have some form of Japanese publication to be listed here. |
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Damselflies said: . Could we just stop, in all honesty, being a bunch of boomers and just go with the time ? Now you said the best definition of MAL. A f* bunch of f* boomers. The only reason i still stay here is you, and you there, and him or her, and them. This page is older and have more members, that's why. But the internet is open so i strongly support people to make profiles and participate of other similar and better featured pages. |
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| I'd recommend Anime-Planet if you want to keep track of webtoons. It has anime, manga, and webtoons, and I definitely prefer it over this site. However, I do agree that they should be less stingy when it comes to adding webtoons since Korean is really similar to Japanese. |
Damselflies said: Flamie_x said: I'd recommend Anime-Planet if you want to keep track of webtoons. It has anime, manga, and webtoons, and I definitely prefer it over this site. However, I do agree that they should be less stingy when it comes to adding webtoons since Korean is really similar to Japanese. Problem is not that korean isn't allowed, it just need have a physical paper publishing. There are a bunch of korean/chinese ones on here, but only paper published, so no webtoons only. I don't understand the point of that. |
| MAL is basically a synonym for outdated. I'm pretty sure that mods/admins don't even read suggestion threads. I'm here for a year now and I haven't seen a single change that would improve a user experience. |
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NamikazeHime said: MAL is basically a synonym for outdated. I'm pretty sure that mods/admins don't even read suggestion threads. I'm here for a year now and I haven't seen a single change that would improve a user experience. Here for five, not seen a single one too |
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| They could possibly have a section specifically for Webtoon? There are a lot of Webtoon exclusive people out there so it would make sense. |
| We don't need these trash here Edit: Oh wait I had already posted here when it was created |
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| 100% agree, MAL has a great community, but they're getting behind. What to expect from a site that doesn't even have an official dark mode in 2020? I really want to add webtoons here too. |
Luthandorius said: Everything is okay as long as it is from Japan. I don't need korean or chinese crap. Database rules should be strict here. "I don't like it so it shouldn't exist" Very odd way of thinking. |
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| I would love to see webtoons on MAL. Right now i khave a textdocument to keep track on which capter i read the last and stuff like that. Also it would be easier to find new series to get into. I think the argument that it is not from Japan so it cant have something to do with anime pretty stupid. Besides that webtoons are coloured the artstile and storys are pretty close to manga. And Tower of god, which is a webtoon ( or a manwha, i forgot ) became a anime adaption which took of pretty well |
| then you'd have to include thousands upon thousands of doujinshi as well, and low quality fanfictions from pixiv too. |
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| Oh, so there's a thread about it. It's simply necessary if MAL intends to stay on point with its manga database. The landscape of Asian comics have changed heavily and forever. We see manhwa being made into anime too at incresaing rates after all. There're official web publishers, web-manga/mahwa/mahua is massively popular. MAL is losing its relevance and fast by not including these titles. And plenty of web series have MAL pages already, it's just inconsistent. The rule of physical copies only is extremely outdated at this point. |
| I have seen way too many borderline-Hentai intercourse titles for webtoon using ecchi tag and only censored the private parts with white out. Tell the webtoon creators for ecchi series this: Ecchi is not sexual intercourse...that's hentai The other problem is what's official or not. If you use MAL for a really long time, you should already know MAL is mainly for anime as it is called myANIMElist. As for manga, a lot of the new recent manga/web-novel/light-novel are not even in the database when users want update. The problem is obvious not lack of manhua/manhwa source, but something. Users themselves need to add the series to the database first for them to research if it's official that meet with MAL guideline. The process is take a really long time. https://myanimelist.net/panel.php?go=mangadb&do=add deadoptimist You mean *MANHUA* being made into anime too at increasing rates since more series are produced in China |
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xkazutox said: deadoptimist You mean *MANHUA* being made into anime too at increasing rates since more series are produced in China Are Tower of God and The God of High School Chinese??? These two are more or less a breakthrough. In former seasons there were several adaptations of manhuas but they didn't get that much attention and good press, at least from what I saw. |
| @deadoptimist No, those two aren't manhua. They are webtoon. As for manhwa, it isn't considered a breakthrough since there are others like Ragnarök The Animation (2004), Blade of the Phantom Master (2004) and etcs. As for webtoon, there are Japanese webtoon with anime adaptation like ReLife before Korean webtoon with anime adaptation. Manhwa = Korean Manhua = Chinese Manga = Japanese Webtoon doesn't apply only to Korea so say it is the same as Manhwa is completely wrong. Yet people still get mix up between the two. |
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xkazutox said: @deadoptimist No, those two aren't manhua. They are webtoon. As for manhwa, it isn't considered a breakthrough since there are others like Ragnarök The Animation (2004), Blade of the Phantom Master (2004) and etcs. As for webtoon, there are Japanese webtoon with anime adaptation like ReLife before Korean webtoon with anime adaptation. Manhwa = Korean Manhua = Chinese Manga = Japanese Webtoon doesn't apply only to Korea so say it is the same as Manhwa is completely wrong. Yet people still get mix up between the two. Yeah, I am well aware of the three terms. Maybe I didn't put it right, but I was sure it was obvious that I was talking about web-series. And from what I observe, web-comics are especisally strong in Korea. Manhwa has been around for a while, but, imo, what they did with web-comics tailored for reading on phones has been major and changed the landscape of comics forever. Again, I may be mistaken, but in my eyes Korea has been the heart of this new development. Like kpop, like dorama, it's associated with their culture first and foremost. |
| I don't see the point. Even if the rules are changed to allow webtoons, the mods would never get around to approving any. |
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| If this happens, I'll have to plague my list with all the filthy manhwas I've been secretly reading. |
| This anime shit is addictive |
| Even if the rule change happened it would just end up with thousands of additional entries in the queue. The manga site of the DB is so overwhelmed already, you might never see an entry approved in your lifetime if you add it to the queue now. I'm trying to say that there are bigger fish to fry for the manga side of this site. It isn't even functioning properly now. |
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Luthandorius said: Everything is okay as long as it is from Japan. I don't need korean or chinese crap. Database rules should be strict here. Change it so it allows all stuff from Japan but other stuff should get denied even if it published somewhere. (I think AniDB - which focuses on anime only - is a lot stricter here. Forbids non-japanese anime I think. Similar it should be done with manga and on MAL.) ^^^THIS. I don't even fucking understand why Manhwas are here in the first place. It is in no way related to anime. It's not even from Japan. MAL should be a little strict about this and keep this place anime and manga only and if its not from Japan then it shouldn't be here. |
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