evoniee said: everybody has the right to rate what they want. like some user with average rating 9.8 with hundreds anime. what prevent ppl rate this anime high? why sao fans can rate their anime 10/10 in the first episode while fans of IR cant? why fans of BNHA can rate at first episode of s4 a 10/10 while fans of IR cant rate 10/10 at ep 4? The main problem is if someone have multiple MAL accounts to rate up his/her favorite anime so that's wrong.... |
42caio said: Paulotronator said: Oh, I don't know, maybe because people actually expect this to be a serious website to review anime and inform themselves about what should they consume from the industry? Anyone who considers MAL scores and reviews a serious source of information about the anime industry and choses what to watch based on them only has themselves to blame. Some of the best anime I ever watched didn't have super high scores because they weren't overhyped flavor of the season shonen. Some of the most fun anime I ever watched had reviews bashing them by wannabe movie critics nitpicking its technical aspects and plot structure. MAL as a review site is and has always been a joke. So that gives the right to someone with influence in the community to mess up with the website even more? Lol. |
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Sarteck said: all of the people using stupid memes like "all hail nux" are sheep. if you are not a sheep, you would not worship an influencer.Mayuka said: don't bother, the fans of this YouTuber all act like sheep lol Hmm. We're being bitched at for not falling in line with generic MAL opinion. But that makes us "sheep." Hmm. |
zmortis said: What I am beginning to take away here is that as a 40+ year fan of Anime (starting with Star Blazers in the 1980s) if I happen to review a show I like as a 10/10 that other people find they don't like, I shouldn't be allowed to rate it unless I'm an approved part of the "reviewer" community on MAL. Is this an accurate take? Yes, I've watched every episode so far, and yes this Anime is in my top 2 new series this season along with Dorohedoro. It is also in my top 2 most anticipated shows each week as the episodes are laugh out loud funny to my tastes. I agree people are not required to like it or watch it. However, I don't think my rating should be overlooked or discarded because someone else doesn't find it to be their taste. I don't see what relevance has your comment with this issue. |
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42caio said: DeathTheKid4 said: So that gives the right to someone with influence in the community to mess up with the website even more? Lol. The fact that people can do that is why MAL is so untrustworthy. I don't known if something this blatant happened before but shows getting boosted or bombed by bots, alt accounts and fanbases engaged in flamewars is commonplace. It's not a matter of having the right to do it, it's a matter of MAL's design allowing and rewarding it That's why I'm eagerly awaiting that Phase 1 fix that they promised |
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DeathTheKid4 said: NikNak514 said: Guys it’s a meme. A sh*t post. It’s not actually some crazy fan movement beyond “let’s mock Funimation”. At the end of the day I don’t think anyone really cares. The issue with this site is that it’s ONLY user reviews. Normally on these kind of sites you have User and Critic reviews. But for this site they don’t really have an established set of anime critics so review brigades are the only thing people see. Frankly who cares! Most people don’t take user reviews seriously unless you are some kind of pundit looking to make a point. At best they are just a tool for gauging the culture around a specific piece of media. And in this case the culture is purely a memetic one. Honestly I think the correct response is to vet bots vs new users, create an account expiration period for accounts that remain unused over long periods of time which will weed out accounts that were made just for this, and introduce a trusted reviewer section where you can just stick some of the big names in the anime community. Those are actually good ideas. Thanks for your comment. If only the mods would read this. this honest to god is a good idea |
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zmortis said: What I am beginning to take away here is that as a 40+ year fan of Anime (starting with Star Blazers in the 1980s, though technically I watched some Astro Boy in the 1970s as a kid) if I happen to review a show I like as a 10/10 that other people find they don't like, I shouldn't be allowed to rate it unless I'm an approved part of the "reviewer" community on MAL. Is this an accurate take? Yes, I've watched every episode so far, and yes this Anime is in my top 2 new series this season along with Dorohedoro (Also rated at a 10/10). It is also in my top 2 most anticipated shows each week as the episodes are laugh out loud funny to my tastes. I agree people are not required to like it or watch it. However, I don't think my rating should be overlooked or discarded because someone else doesn't find it to be their taste. The problem here are not random people like you that rate things honestly, the problem here is that an anituber and his mob followers made 30000 accounts to give this show a 10/10 in less than 24 hours. |
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Mayuka said: Hmm. Hmm. We don't kowtow to your opinion and that makes us "sheep."Sarteck said: all of the people using stupid memes like "all hail nux" are sheep. if you are not a sheep, you would not worship an influencer.Hmm. We're being bitched at for not falling in line with generic MAL opinion. But that makes us "sheep." Hmm. |
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BlakexEkalb said: Meew2 said: And this is why I switched to Anilist. The same fucking shit happened a few years ago with Pengu for christ sakes. There's no way to circumvent fake scoring. Well the development team is and was already working on a way to fix this kind of problem. At least we know there is still hope. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=4750#msg59087935 @DeathTheKid4 I'd recommend to just ignore these people. Clearly logic doesn't work against trolls/dense people. This used to be a fake profile thread, then it got 180'd into a scoring thread, then it was locked. > This is why I use Anilist now. |
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Sarteck said: you are delusional lol.Mayuka said: Hmm. Hmm. We don't kowtow to your opinion and that makes us "sheep."all of the people using stupid memes like "all hail nux" are sheep. if you are not a sheep, you would not worship an influencer. i dont care what anime you enjoy, but worshiping any youtuber to this extent makes you sheep. |
TenzaSajiin023 said: I say people have the right to choose what they wish to watch. Its an independent choice whether the shows standards are up or down. Some butthurt people have some standards to keep as they say but its a sorry excuse Says the guy who literally joined today after watching Nux's video. Think we can't tell when you made your account, it's right there on your profile. And it's dead empty with no other anime on it. So stop band-waging already, it's ridiculous |
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Mayuka said: You seem to care very much. You seem to think your shit opinion on what I can or can't like (whether anime or youtubers) is the end-all-be-all, and are very hostile to anyone showing support for this show, regardless of their support of Nux. Case in point, I haven't said a single thing in every single one of my posts that could be inferred as "I like Nux," much less the "worship" you claim. However, you seem bound and determined to be a complete wanker because I share the same opinions that many of them do.Sarteck said: you are delusional lol.Hmm. Hmm. We don't kowtow to your opinion and that makes us "sheep." i dont care what anime you enjoy, but worshiping any youtuber to this extent makes you sheep. You're the one ascribing attitudes and religion to people for no real reason. Maybe you are the one deluded here? |
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DeathTheKid4 said: 42caio said: Anyone who considers MAL scores and reviews a serious source of information about the anime industry and choses what to watch based on them only has themselves to blame. Some of the best anime I ever watched didn't have super high scores because they weren't overhyped flavor of the season shonen. Some of the most fun anime I ever watched had reviews bashing them by wannabe movie critics nitpicking its technical aspects and plot structure. MAL as a review site is and has always been a joke. So that gives the right to someone with influence in the community to mess up with the website even more? Lol. Yes, as an influencer, he has the power to influence people to do what he says. He has the right, bcs he earned his position as an influencer. The one to blame is this website's management for not having good enough defense against this kind of situation, against trolls/cheaters. However, people overreacting to this are just so.... idk, just let the mods work their shit. It'll probably take time. If not, let's just move on and pretend this anime never happen if you hate it so much. Just continue watching your anime. |
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DynastyStar2 said: I've been loving the hell out of the anime, I've seen 4 episodes for it already and I consider it a Masterpiece, alongside Keijo!!!!!!!! I did have to make a new account though because I haven't been on my account for so long that I forgot the password to it and the password reset email wasn't sending to my email. this is legit bullshit. I've forgotten my original passwords numerous times and was able to reset them multiple times until I finally figured out a good one to remember. And given the fact how your account shows you literally joined the day after Nux put up his video while also giving a 10 the same time he said in the video to do so, you're just full of bullshit it's unbelievable. I don't care if people before this whole debacle gave it 10, at least is still had a reasonable score. But with people like you coming in and messing with the rating system, it's a pain in the ass |
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| The bottom line is: this show is not particularly special. People are entitled to rate it whatever they want, sure. I don't disagree with that. But the influx of 10/10 ratings seems less like somebody sincerely expressing their love of a show, and more "sticking it to the libs" or whatever, out of some misguided idea that anybody actually cares. Ecchi anime like this are a dime-a-dozen, Funimation doesn't typically delve into hentai territory and this show is basically softcore hentai. So in the rush of licensing grabs which is all too common in today's anime industry, they grabbed up something they hadn't realized was typically the kind of content they don't license. So they've veered away from it. In the meantime, people who don't know how corporations work assume it's a social justice thing (it isn't) and throw a tantrum in voting spams because...uh...well I'm sure it makes them feel good, or something. |
Sarteck said: LOL you are the one who seems offended when I never straight up called you a sheep. You seem so defensive of this anime and every single thread created in the subforum. Mayuka said: You seem to care very much. You seem to think your shit opinion on what I can or can't like (whether anime or youtubers) is the end-all-be-all, and are very hostile to anyone showing support for this show, regardless of their support of Nux. Case in point, I haven't said a single thing in every single one of my posts that could be inferred as "I like Nux," much less the "worship" you claim. However, you seem bound and determined to be a complete wanker because I share the same opinions that many of them do.you are delusional lol. i dont care what anime you enjoy, but worshiping any youtuber to this extent makes you sheep. You're the one ascribing attitudes and religion to people for no real reason. Maybe you are the one deluded here? |
| You guys are arguing over a show about 3-4 males who fuck different species of females. I think insulting each other over something like this is possibly worse than the show itself. Thanks for the keks, glad i checked the thread. I didn't even need to put salt on my popcorn because of the mine left here. You truly are humanists. The show is shit and I'm glad funamation dropped it harder than a sack of potatoes. |
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Mayuka said: Sarteck said: LOL you are the one who seems offended when I never straight up called you a sheep. You seem so defensive of this anime and every single thread created in the subforum. You seem to care very much. You seem to think your shit opinion on what I can or can't like (whether anime or youtubers) is the end-all-be-all, and are very hostile to anyone showing support for this show, regardless of their support of Nux. Case in point, I haven't said a single thing in every single one of my posts that could be inferred as "I like Nux," much less the "worship" you claim. However, you seem bound and determined to be a complete wanker because I share the same opinions that many of them do. You're the one ascribing attitudes and religion to people for no real reason. Maybe you are the one deluded here? Yeesh. Now you're trying to insinuate we're not sheep when you're confronted to weasel your way out of what ya said. Make up your mind already. |
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Rebill12 said: I never called Sarteck a sheep. I said people who worship Nux and say shit like "All hail Nux" are sheep. I don't know if he said that. Repeating a meme is really immature.Mayuka said: you are delusional lol. i dont care what anime you enjoy, but worshiping any youtuber to this extent makes you sheep. I don't recall sartek ever hailing nux or anything. It sounds like you're quick to assume. I like nux and think he's chilling, but all of you people who call anyone who knows who nux is sheep is lame. Liking nux doesn't equate to being a sheep. It feels more like you are a sheep for going along with all the nux opposers and calling us sheep. A lot of people just need to take a step back and consider anime on their own internal scale instead of rating a show just because MAL says that it is. I mean, you do realize that 5 is supposed to be average on this site, right? SAO has a 7.4 rating, which is in between good and very good, both things I wouldn't consider it being. It's not hard to realize that the world isn't ending because of a meme taking up one of the top spots on MAL. Just for the record, I think that ishuzoku is a solid 8, not a 10, so good luck calling me a sheep because I voted 10 or something. Sarteck said: Again, delusional. You think everything I say is targeted towards you.Mayuka said: LOL you are the one who seems offended when I never straight up called you a sheep. You seem so defensive of this anime and every single thread created in the subforum. Yeesh. Now you're trying to insinuate we're not sheep when you're confronted to weasel your way out of what ya said. Make up your mind already. |
Rebill12 said: I'm calling people who spammed the other threads with "all hail nux" a sheep. Do you want a list of all of the posts? I've seen at least 20.Mayuka said: you are delusional lol. i dont care what anime you enjoy, but worshiping any youtuber to this extent makes you sheep. Actually I think you did call him a sheep for worshipping nux right there, just to be sure. |
Rebill12 said: Meew2 said: You guys are arguing over a show about 3-4 males who fuck different species of females. I think insulting each other over something like this is possibly worse than the show itself. Thanks for the keks, glad i checked the thread. I didn't even need to put salt on my popcorn because of the mine left here. You truly are humanists. The show is shit and I'm glad funamation dropped it harder than a sack of potatoes. Just because a show is bad doesn't mean it should be dropped. They did Dragon Ball Super and that show sucks big time. Oh no yeah, Super sucks. But on top of being part of a longrunning license? Super is profitable. VERY profitable. To the point where any subjective criticism of it is a moot point to their bottom line. Ishuzoku on the other hand? Well, let's not quibble around the details here. It's porn. It's just porn. Funi has licensed some pretty ecchi stuff before, but nothing quite so explicit. They're not dropping it because of some moral high ground, they're dropping it because that's not the type of territory they venture into, or what their actors sign up for. They jumped the gun on licensing it, sure, and that itself can be irritating - but this is about their general company practices, nothing else really to it. |
Rebill12 said: Mayuka said: I'm calling people who spammed the other threads with "all hail nux" a sheep. Do you want a list of all of the posts? I've seen at least 20. Yeah I know and those people add nothing to this thread but the way you write implies that anyone who doesn't agree with you a sheep. I wrote this: Mayuka said: all of the people using stupid memes like "all hail nux" are sheep. if you are not a sheep, you would not worship an influencer. People who worship a youtuber/influencer/famous person and do whatever they tell them to do are sheep. How is it so hard to understand what I'm saying? LOL Sarteck said: Are you bored yet of using the same rebuttal?Mayuka said: I do think that when you reply to me and quote my post what you say is targeted at me, yes.Again, delusional. You think everything I say is targeted towards you. And okay, I get it. You only think that the people who don't bother talking back to you are sheep. M'kay. |
Mayuka said: I do think that when you reply to me and quote my post what you say is targeted at me, yes.Again, delusional. You think everything I say is targeted towards you. And okay, I get it. You only think that the people who don't bother talking back to you are sheep. M'kay. |
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DeathTheKid4 said: If all it takes is one youtuber to encourage his/her fanbase to upvote/downvote an anime/manga to mess the ratings and scores, and nothing is done about it, all I can do is just ask: Do mods care about this site at all? Is this acceptable in their eyes? Shouldn't they be thinking right now of ways to stop this kind of behaviour? You are losing more credibility every day that passes.. ratings were subjective to begin with. there is no true objectivity to rating a medium like movies, books, music, painting, anime. there is no objective truth to these kinds of things. some people hate fish, but enjoy chicken vise versa. |
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FlowersInTheRain said: DeathTheKid4 said: It's a fabricated success lol. It had 7,5 score before. And no sane anituber ever said: go upvote/downvote that specific show. Anitubers recommend or bash anime if they are right in their heads. This nux dude isn't. It isn't even MAL's fault. The war is between Funimation and Ishuzoku Reviewers fans. MAL shouldn't have been dragged in this. Your reasoning is plain wrong. No your reasoning is plain wrong. MAL hasn't been dragged into anything. This has nothing to do with the mods. No rule has been broken! People have used the site as intended. They have made an account and rated a show that they are watching. Shock horror! it is against the rules to make bot/alt accs, but thats all. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
DeathTheKid4 said: zmortis said: What I am beginning to take away here is that as a 40+ year fan of Anime (starting with Star Blazers in the 1980s, though technically I watched some Astro Boy in the 1970s as a kid) if I happen to review a show I like as a 10/10 that other people find they don't like, I shouldn't be allowed to rate it unless I'm an approved part of the "reviewer" community on MAL. Is this an accurate take? Yes, I've watched every episode so far, and yes this Anime is in my top 2 new series this season along with Dorohedoro (Also rated at a 10/10). It is also in my top 2 most anticipated shows each week as the episodes are laugh out loud funny to my tastes. I agree people are not required to like it or watch it. However, I don't think my rating should be overlooked or discarded because someone else doesn't find it to be their taste. The problem here are not random people like you that rate things honestly, the problem here is that an anituber and his mob followers made 30000 accounts to give this show a 10/10 in less than 24 hours. I think mods should be changed to developers in the title. I genuinely doubt mods have the power to do anything, in fact I'd be very surprised if they were ever paid to moderate this site. But to answer your question, mods - yes, probably. Developer? Probably not, which is why the forums remains so unintuitive and still looks like a website stuck in the early 2000s. Looking at suggestions should tell you that much. |
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| Yeah no it's an issue I mean i just disregard MAL ratings and kinda have always have. Outside of obvious issues like this Chihayafuru, FMAB fans and just old anime ratings they never have been good. Also most of Nux Tux fans honestly are doing more harm to this show and probably encouraging more people to write it off due to them making it an obvious meme score unlike when it was just slowly rising. |
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