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Sep 5, 2019 10:41 AM
#1
I mean, I hate when they make bad anime. most of people do as well but theyre are alwais those who defend them no mater what, just admit they are not god and you ave tastesless! moreogre: they keeps making bad anime! shouldn't they learn with time they are bad! some times they even become popular and more than just a minority start saying they like it!(and if there's one thing life taught me it's that the majority is alwais right) so that asks very phylosophical question.... if its shit but poeple like it am i the one in the wrong?!?? and I won't state what animes i'm talking about to avaid craeting a shitstorm. I don't want that. what do you felow weebs think about that? one thing for sure: bad animes are evil. |
ZehennagelSep 5, 2019 12:24 PM
Sep 5, 2019 10:42 AM
#2
Because studios that are making them don't think that they are bad and instead believe that they can make a profit or boost manga sales. |
Sep 5, 2019 10:49 AM
#3
Xstasy said: Because studios that are making them don't think that they are bad and instead believe that they can make a profit or boost manga sales. Exactly! No one ever intends to make a bad anime. Reputations and livelihoods are on the line. I know it's hard to believe with some of the things that are released each season, but someone in charge thought it was a good product. I also wish as a consumer of the product that it would suit my tastes 100% of the time. A happy pipe dream. |
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Sep 5, 2019 10:53 AM
#4
To make us appreciate even more the good ones :) |
Sep 5, 2019 11:00 AM
#6
ChiMur said: What an incredibly naïve thing to say. The people who decide whether an anime is made or not are the producers and most producers care a lot less about a product being good as much as a product making, or losing, money. That's where their considerations end, there's no "Oh yeah I think this will be a good product" as much as "Oh yeah I think this will make us money". That's how corporations work.Xstasy said: Because studios that are making them don't think that they are bad and instead believe that they can make a profit or boost manga sales. Exactly! No one ever intends to make a bad anime. Reputations and livelihoods are on the line. I know it's hard to believe with some of the things that are released each season, but someone in charge thought it was a good product. I also wish as a consumer of the product that it would suit my tastes 100% of the time. A happy pipe dream. The team making the actual anime? They are much more likely to want to make a good product but even they must know that appalling junk such as arifureta, for instance, (which I deeply enjoy but is objectively horrid) is not a good product. Maybe it's the best the actual team can do under the circumstances, but it still doesn't make it good. Not by a long shot. |
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Sep 5, 2019 11:05 AM
#7
I sincerely doubt that there is a single anime ever made that at least one person doesn't think is fantastic. |
Sep 5, 2019 11:07 AM
#8
Kurgo said: ChiMur said: What an incredibly naïve thing to say. The people who decide whether an anime is made or not are the producers and most producers care a lot less about a product being good as much as a product making, or losing, money. That's where their considerations end, there's no "Oh yeah I think this will be a good product" as much as "Oh yeah I think this will make us money". That's how corporations work.Xstasy said: Because studios that are making them don't think that they are bad and instead believe that they can make a profit or boost manga sales. Exactly! No one ever intends to make a bad anime. Reputations and livelihoods are on the line. I know it's hard to believe with some of the things that are released each season, but someone in charge thought it was a good product. I also wish as a consumer of the product that it would suit my tastes 100% of the time. A happy pipe dream. The team making the actual anime? They are much more likely to want to make a good product but even they must know that appalling junk such as arifureta, for instance, (which I deeply enjoy but is objectively horrid) is not a good product. Maybe it's the best the actual team can do under the circumstances, but it still doesn't make it good. Not by a long shot. I'm not sure you're right. That money-grubbing producer knows the profit rises or falls on acceptance by the intended audience. That greedy capitalist at least knows that much, and probably listens to input from the 'artists'. |
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Sep 5, 2019 11:12 AM
#9
imagine gatekeeping anime because you dont get that some people still would like bad stuff, this thread is retarded |
Sep 5, 2019 11:12 AM
#10
Vazka said: why are bad threads still being made?? This right here is the real question. |
Sep 5, 2019 11:13 AM
#11
The only “bad” anime I can immediately think of this season has just gotta be Isekai Cheat Magician by far >_< |
Sep 5, 2019 11:14 AM
#12
The OP doesn't seem to have even the most basic understanding of how the entertainment industry works. Please read a Wikipedia page or two before making dum-dum posts. |
Sep 5, 2019 11:19 AM
#13
because there are billions people in this world that doesn't have taste like you |
Sep 5, 2019 11:19 AM
#14
"Bad" and "good" animes are subjective matters. To one some anime might appears bad and to other it might be most fantastic thing ever. It also depends if we ask from western viewers or asian ones. Just looking top selling animes already tell we've quite different tastes in some areas and that's alright. If everybody liked same things, then we would have only ONE anime. How sad that would be? |
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Sep 5, 2019 11:28 AM
#15
Because they think they might sell and a lot of times they do in fact sell |
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Sep 5, 2019 11:46 AM
#16
Zehennagel said: Dear OP,I mean, I hate when they make bad anime. most of people do as well but theyre are alwais those who defend them no mater what, just admit they are not god and you ave tastesless! moreogre: they keeps making bad anime! shouldn't they learn with time they are bad! some times they even become popular and more than just a minority start saying they like it!(and if there's one thing life taught me it's that the majority is alwais right) so that asks very phylosophical question.... if its shit but poeple like it am i the one in the wrong?!?? and I won't state what animes i'm talking about to avaid craeting a shitstorm. I don't want that. what do you felow weebs think about that? one thing for sure: bad animes are evil. 1. Since you've already created a shitstorm, and since that was totally a cop-out excuse since other people regularly do label various anime as bad already: Please list 10 anime series you consider "bad", and ten that you consider not "bad". 2. How are "bad animes" "evil"? What makes them "evil"? Yours truly, someone looking to actually understand/explore your point further and disappointed that you haven't actually come back to post a reply at all |
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Sep 5, 2019 11:48 AM
#17
What is bad in your opinion ? There isn't anime that is bad for everyone and also there is no anime that is good for everyone... so another pointless topic |
Sep 5, 2019 11:52 AM
#18
have you considered that maybe everything YOU like is bad? what are the criteria you are judging stuff by? why should anyone care about those criteria? why should anyone take your opinion on how individual shows match up to that criteria seriously. Maybe what you need is introspection, because i could rattle way more of these questions at you. Find the answer on your own. Who is the one TRUE ANIME JUDGE!? trick question, it's Keanu Reeves |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:00 PM
#19
GlennMagusHarvey said: well anime that are bad are:Zehennagel said: Dear OP,I mean, I hate when they make bad anime. most of people do as well but theyre are alwais those who defend them no mater what, just admit they are not god and you ave tastesless! moreogre: they keeps making bad anime! shouldn't they learn with time they are bad! some times they even become popular and more than just a minority start saying they like it!(and if there's one thing life taught me it's that the majority is alwais right) so that asks very phylosophical question.... if its shit but poeple like it am i the one in the wrong?!?? and I won't state what animes i'm talking about to avaid craeting a shitstorm. I don't want that. what do you felow weebs think about that? one thing for sure: bad animes are evil. 1. Since you've already created a shitstorm, and since that was totally a cop-out excuse since other people regularly do label various anime as bad already: Please list 10 anime series you consider "bad", and ten that you consider not "bad". 2. How are "bad animes" "evil"? What makes them "evil"? Yours truly, someone looking to actually understand/explore your point further and disappointed that you haven't actually come back to post a reply at all evil because their are bad -not bad because their are evil know the difference. yours truly, some dweebs triyng to make things right. |
Sep 5, 2019 12:05 PM
#20
"Bad anime" isn't being made. Anime is being made, and you think some of it is bad. |
Sep 5, 2019 12:06 PM
#21
ComboSmooth said: well no because as I said the majority is alwais rigth and I agree when bad animes are being realesed they are called ""bad"" becoz peolpe are just rihgt! I agree with them!have you considered that maybe everything YOU like is bad? what are the criteria you are judging stuff by? why should anyone care about those criteria? why should anyone take your opinion on how individual shows match up to that criteria seriously. Maybe what you need is introspection, because i could rattle way more of these questions at you. Find the answer on your own. Who is the one TRUE ANIME JUDGE!? trick question, it's Keanu Reeves but we go back to the real phylosophilical question I was talking about: if the majority is saying a anime is good but it is bad, am I the one in the wrong?! also raises an other question: maybe they are not the majority and we ca'nt realy know if the majrority is callling it bad or good. anyway, I'm here to ask questions, you're here to answer. again 1 actually only thing is for sure: bad anime is evil. and that's a fatx. |
Sep 5, 2019 12:06 PM
#22
Bad is subjective my friend. They make the anime because they may personally enjoy their work or there is an audience for it. Every series out there appeals to someone. Why is it your business if these series become popular? The industry isn't going to cater to your needs 100% of the time, so sometimes you just have to shrug your shoulders, say this series isn't for you and find something else. I noticed you have Hunter X Hunter and Berserk on your favorites list and there are plenty of people who hate or don't care about those series for their own reasons. Does that mean you enjoy them any less? No, so why should they with their own favorites? Live and let live. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:07 PM
#23
I'm getting the idea that this person is a troll tbh. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:16 PM
#24
MarinBlue said: Bad is subjective my friend. They make the anime because they may personally enjoy their work or there is an audience for it. Every series out there appeals to someone. Why is it your business if these series become popular? The industry isn't going to cater to your needs 100% of the time, so sometimes you just have to shrug your shoulders, say this series isn't for you and find something else. I noticed you have Hunter X Hunter and Berserk on your favorites list and there are plenty of people who hate or don't care about those series for their own reasons. Does that mean you enjoy them any less? No, so why should they with their own favorites? Live and let live. I think that's a good place to end this thread. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:17 PM
#25
[/quote] Vazka said: well ladies & gentleman this is a Real Question.why are bad threads still being made?? |
Sep 5, 2019 12:20 PM
#26
there is no any bad anime but there is lot of anime which some people does not like |
Sep 5, 2019 12:23 PM
#27
Zehennagel said: 1. You have not listed any anime you consider bad nor have you contrasted such a list with a list of anime you consider not bad.GlennMagusHarvey said: well anime that are bad are:Zehennagel said: I mean, I hate when they make bad anime. most of people do as well but theyre are alwais those who defend them no mater what, just admit they are not god and you ave tastesless! moreogre: they keeps making bad anime! shouldn't they learn with time they are bad! some times they even become popular and more than just a minority start saying they like it!(and if there's one thing life taught me it's that the majority is alwais right) so that asks very phylosophical question.... if its shit but poeple like it am i the one in the wrong?!?? and I won't state what animes i'm talking about to avaid craeting a shitstorm. I don't want that. what do you felow weebs think about that? one thing for sure: bad animes are evil. 1. Since you've already created a shitstorm, and since that was totally a cop-out excuse since other people regularly do label various anime as bad already: Please list 10 anime series you consider "bad", and ten that you consider not "bad". 2. How are "bad animes" "evil"? What makes them "evil"? Yours truly, someone looking to actually understand/explore your point further and disappointed that you haven't actually come back to post a reply at all evil because their are bad -not bad because their are evil know the difference. yours truly, some dweebs triyng to make things right. 2. I ask you what is considered bad. You don't respond. I ask you why they are evil. You say they're evil because they're bad. I'm sorry, I'm having trouble parsing this circular reasoning. You still haven't defined anything. You've simply attached moral labels to things, but what things these are is still unknown. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:25 PM
#28
Zehennagel said: The majority of whom? Of people who use MAL? And where do you have polls of them to say that something is good or bad? What about if something is meh? So what if we can't determine what the majority says? Maybe that means we can't determine whether something is bad or good.ComboSmooth said: well no because as I said the majority is alwais rigth and I agree when bad animes are being realesed they are called ""bad"" becoz peolpe are just rihgt! I agree with them!have you considered that maybe everything YOU like is bad? what are the criteria you are judging stuff by? why should anyone care about those criteria? why should anyone take your opinion on how individual shows match up to that criteria seriously. Maybe what you need is introspection, because i could rattle way more of these questions at you. Find the answer on your own. Who is the one TRUE ANIME JUDGE!? trick question, it's Keanu Reeves but we go back to the real phylosophilical question I was talking about: if the majority is saying a anime is good but it is bad, am I the one in the wrong?! also raises an other question: maybe they are not the majority and we ca'nt realy know if the majrority is callling it bad or good. anyway, I'm here to ask questions, you're here to answer. again 1 actually only thing is for sure: bad anime is evil. and that's a fatx. In which case, calling something evil because it's bad is meaningless. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:28 PM
#29
GlennMagusHarvey said: Zehennagel said: The majority of whom? Of people who use MAL? And where do you have polls of them to say that something is good or bad? What about if something is meh? So what if we can't determine what the majority says? Maybe that means we can't determine whether something is bad or good.ComboSmooth said: have you considered that maybe everything YOU like is bad? what are the criteria you are judging stuff by? why should anyone care about those criteria? why should anyone take your opinion on how individual shows match up to that criteria seriously. Maybe what you need is introspection, because i could rattle way more of these questions at you. Find the answer on your own. Who is the one TRUE ANIME JUDGE!? trick question, it's Keanu Reeves but we go back to the real phylosophilical question I was talking about: if the majority is saying a anime is good but it is bad, am I the one in the wrong?! also raises an other question: maybe they are not the majority and we ca'nt realy know if the majrority is callling it bad or good. anyway, I'm here to ask questions, you're here to answer. again 1 actually only thing is for sure: bad anime is evil. and that's a fatx. In which case, calling something evil because it's bad is meaningless. I don't think you should bother with them. Their poor spelling and refusal to explain themselves gives me the impression that they are a troll and further interaction will be a waste of time. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:36 PM
#30
true, 7-8 out of 10 titles that come out nowadays are pretty bad, the rest is either meh tier or good to some extent. we truly have accepted mediocrity and just getting along with it, gaslighting everyone who has any grain of doubt in the current anime good shit is hardly produced anymore, mad facts |
Sep 5, 2019 12:37 PM
#31
Gather around, Children. I'm going to teach some basic economics. When a studio green lights an anime idea, it's all based around a simple fact. They crunched the numbers and the numbers indicate that enough people will like this anime for it to make a profit. At this point, they have a good idea of what their budget needs to be, how to market the series and roughly what time slot to get. Now, they get a team together and this team does their best to make the product, whether it be an adaptation or an original. Soon, the various anime made for the season are released and each one has its own audience based on who the studio's marketing to. Some people will watch and dislike the series based on its subjective qualities. Others will watch and like a series based off of its subjective qualities. As there is no objective good or bad when it comes to these kinds of products. What you're experiencing is called having your own set of subjective standards that not everything meets. Welcome to the human race. |
Sep 5, 2019 12:39 PM
#32
Because some people have trash taste. |
The word elitist is stupid since it's just used by people who can't defend their favorite shows and use it on people who criticize their favorite shows. |
Sep 5, 2019 12:54 PM
#33
Zehennagel said: I see you added this to the OP.some times they even become popular and more than just a minority start saying they like it!(and if there's one thing life taught me it's that the majority is alwais right) so that asks very phylosophical question.... if its shit but poeple like it am i the one in the wrong?!?? The answer is that it's neither wrong nor right. Because not everything in life has to be either wrong or right. You still haven't listed any shows. Ironically, there'd be less of a "shitstorm" if you did list some, because people would have something concrete to discuss. |
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Sep 5, 2019 12:57 PM
#34
for one, I don't think studios intend to make bad anime, they make something to the best of their ability and sometimes that ability is lacking and it'll show in their work, but just because it's bad either in your eyes or based on the audience overall score, doesn't mean it was done so on purpose. two, if you're talking about anime with high scores that you think are shit than that's strictly your opinion, personally I think naruto and one pieces are trash but i'll have friends wipe the tears from their eyes as they tell me otherwise. three, who cares what's being made, not like you're forced to watch it anyway. if you don't want to hear or read things on stuff you don't like you can just avoid it and let that community be happy with what they have. |
Sep 5, 2019 1:14 PM
#35
uninstallthegame said: serious answer though(idk if you were being serious but Ill be) I think there are a lot of good things nowadays even more than before but that inevitably causes for there to be more shitty ones too.true, 7-8 out of 10 titles that come out nowadays are pretty bad, the rest is either meh tier or good to some extent. we truly have accepted mediocrity and just getting along with it, gaslighting everyone who has any grain of doubt in the current anime good shit is hardly produced anymore, mad facts |
Sep 5, 2019 1:47 PM
#36
Zehennagel said: what do you felow weebs think about that? I think if this isn't a poor bait then you should delete your account. |
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Sep 5, 2019 2:07 PM
#37
Sep 5, 2019 2:10 PM
#38
I know right. I hate it when bad things happen. But how do we stop the bad things? Edit: He's obviously taking the piss, guys. Jesus christ calm down. |
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Sep 5, 2019 8:49 PM
#39
Zehennagel said: ComboSmooth said: well no because as I said the majority is alwais rigth and I agree when bad animes are being realesed they are called ""bad"" becoz peolpe are just rihgt! I agree with them!have you considered that maybe everything YOU like is bad? what are the criteria you are judging stuff by? why should anyone care about those criteria? why should anyone take your opinion on how individual shows match up to that criteria seriously. Maybe what you need is introspection, because i could rattle way more of these questions at you. Find the answer on your own. Who is the one TRUE ANIME JUDGE!? trick question, it's Keanu Reeves but we go back to the real phylosophilical question I was talking about: if the majority is saying a anime is good but it is bad, am I the one in the wrong?! also raises an other question: maybe they are not the majority and we ca'nt realy know if the majrority is callling it bad or good. anyway, I'm here to ask questions, you're here to answer. again 1 actually only thing is for sure: bad anime is evil. and that's a fatx. There is no reason to assume that just because the majority said something that that makes it right. Majorities depend on the specific group for one, and some groups have terrible ideals (like nazis and NRA supporters). Other times, people often hear a ton from vocal minorities and confuse them for being the majority. Example for this would be all the SAO haters. LOUD outcries to how shit it is but it stands at 8/10 on MAL. The loudest people are usually the minority. Also MAL is a fine enough indicator to tell what general audiences think. So the majority say its good. But does that make it good? Heck what is this false dichotomy you've set up to begin with. A show doesnt have to be all good or all bad. personally I think half of SAO is good and half of it is bad and that includes all its seasons. It all comes down to personal taste in the end and can one taste really be better than another or is it all relative? |
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Sep 5, 2019 9:01 PM
#40
What is "bad" or "good" is up to the viewer to decide Just because you think something is bad doesn't mean that everyone else will, in the same way that not everyone is going to like your favorite anime either There isn't some objective quality art is rated on, what is bad or good is entirely up to the viewer. |
Sep 5, 2019 9:30 PM
#41
WatchTillTandava said: If you can still say that after watching Mars of Destruction, than bravo to youI sincerely doubt that there is a single anime ever made that at least one person doesn't think is fantastic. |
Sep 5, 2019 9:31 PM
#42
To piss off people like OP. Long may it continue. |
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Sep 5, 2019 9:57 PM
#43
When will people learn that everyone has different taste? Pretty sure that one of OP's favorite anime is shit to me. |
Sep 5, 2019 10:00 PM
#44
sturgeons law says 90% of everything is trash or things you do not want anyway so its more likely you do not prefer those kind of shows thats all and what you are asking is like the billion dollar question of the entertainment industry as a whole |
Sep 5, 2019 10:43 PM
#45
Because there's people who actually like these "bad" anime. If I read this correctly you even said so yourself. People have different tastes and interests and not everyone has to like the same thing. Also because they still continue to make money, which ties into the whole people actually enjoying these thing. |
Sep 5, 2019 10:51 PM
#46
Sep 5, 2019 11:03 PM
#48
You dropped some of the best anime out there. Anime are not bad just because you say they are. |
Sep 5, 2019 11:04 PM
#49
Sep 5, 2019 11:15 PM
#50
Because quality is subjectuve thing. What is bad to you are not bad to others. Poor bait. |
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