| So not too long ago, I happened to have read Kamisama, Kisama wo Koroshitai, which is a (albeit cheesy) horror/thriller manga about a killer who witnessed a high school girl trying to kill herself, while she witnessed a killer murder someone. The Killer made the promise to kill her once they solve the mystery of who killed her family. Thus, the pair start their adventure as the story focuses moreso on the "who done it?" narrative from then on. The manga was popular, to the point of it being serialized outside of Japan. There are currently 4 complete volumes of it that is possible to purchase (google "MAKO : L'ANGE DE LA MORT T0[#]" and add a vol number, ie. T02 for vol 2), with an incomplete 5th vol that is not available outside of Japan. However, upon reaching the "last" chapter, there was a lack of closure on behalf of the mangaka, and neither this work nor any other new upcoming projects were ever updated. What interests me is a footnote that was made by the scanlation team on the last chapter: I found the tweet they were referring to, and the mangaka hasn't updated it ever since. I have also found the wiki that they are referencing as well, though it is not available in english, so I only saw a very rough google translate version. There is some editing history that confirms the data that they refer to was added in as well. What really interests me is the fact that the latest incomplete volume was talking about the Yakuza, as well as how it has connections to political parties as well as an ..."uncommon" Yakuza torture method in which Google doesn't really help, as there is a lack of details about the mangaka, with no information on him at all post-2015. I just think it's strange that a pretty well known guy who had a popular magazine publication(look under "DL" for sales numbers) completely disappear from the face of the internet as well as the publishing company, with no announcements anywhere about it. Though there could be more info about his whereabouts in more obscure Japanese sites, but I don't have the skills to pull that off.What do you guys think? Have any new info about the mangaka? edit: tl;dr= a mangaka, which may have some underground connections, showcased this underground info in his most recent publication, only to disappear with no explanation since 2015. Any theories? |
(I think it's a stretch, though they never show the guy's face)foxsurpriseJan 4, 2019 8:21 AM
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| RIP mangaka. The underworld must've swallowed him. If his body is ever found someone should make a manga about it from a fan's POV whom is trying to uncover the mystery about the disappearance of his favorite author. In all seriousness all the obscurity surrounding the incident is indeed mysterious. Now I'm intrigued and want to know more too. Maybe his girlfriend broke up with him and he moved out of the country without saying a word lol who knows |
| i mean this sounds more interesting than his mangas' plots - i'd say it could be a publicity thing but considering there's so little about it, i doubt that. perhaps he just reinvented his life, and wanted to leave his past completely behind. wonder whether those panels are really enough for the yakuza to get involved; after all, there's a lot on the mafia but they've never disappeared any mangakas. |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
N30-R3TR0 said: RIP mangaka. The underworld must've swallowed him. If his body is ever found someone should make a manga about it from a fan's POV whom is trying to uncover the mystery about the disappearance of his favorite author. I wish someone who was fluent in JP as well as otaku enough to actually research this can come to a more rounded conclusion, because I ain't touching the underworld biz anytime soon. In all seriousness all the obscurity surrounding the incident is indeed mysterious. Now I'm intrigued and want to know more too. Maybe his girlfriend broke up with him and he moved out of the country without saying a word lol who knows could be as simple as that, but why go such far lengths as to risking your career and your identity on the web just because of a nasty breakup lol |
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photophobic said: i mean this sounds more interesting than his mangas' plots - i'd say it could be a publicity thing but considering there's so little about it, i doubt that. perhaps he just reinvented his life, and wanted to leave his past completely behind. True, but the mangaka had moderate success in his publications, both in and outside of Japan, as well as ambition to continue the manga, so I am confused on why disappear from the face of the Earth so suddenly. There is lack of reasoning and no party has come forward to explain what's going on. wonder whether those panels are really enough for the yakuza to get involved; after all, there's a lot on the mafia but they've never disappeared any mangakas. Yakuza may be a stretch, but the way he explained them is different from something like Homunculus, or sanctuary, or any more mainstream Yakuza story I can think of. I can't think any other manga that talks about how much influence yakuza have in court dealings and the like, both in numbers and political parties who influence the law. I doubt it it had to do with the yakuza too, but that's the only new info that popped up in regards to this Mangaka's whereabouts. ______ Anyhow, my goal is to spread this mysterious case around in hopes that someone can catch wind of this story and have the solution to solve this. Because it's completely fascinating how someone with this much popularity just suddenly vanish. |
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foxsuprise said: Anyhow, my goal is to spread this mysterious case around in hopes that someone can catch wind of this story and have the solution to solve this. there must be someone on here who can speak japanese, and knows how to navigate more obscure sites |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| this is a great mystery to read, super interesting. everything looks normal and nothing creepy hidden in it, from the tweet about hospitalization, to the wikipedia pages. it could very well be he died from the bile duct stones. although when it look it up, it's rare to die from that unless it's actually a disease or something of that nature. although when i look up inusuke matsuhashi, i come across pages linked to his name also with kensuke matsuhashi, coming from links listed in a wikidata page. it could be so his birth name or another alias. if he did have connections with underground organizations, the yakuza, or political parties, he could've took on that alias and left in fear of them. although that alias is too close to his real name, i'd find the name alias too far fetched and stupid. i would honestly doubt the yakuza to actually get involved with a simple mangaka though, tons of mangakas make mangas and stories about the yakuza. unless the guy had something big, i wouldn't imagine them to hop on him. quite frankly my japanese isnt nearly as good enough to dig any further than reading a little katakana and hiragana about his works. man i hope this dude gets found or the case is resolved, cause this is peaking my curiosity. really, the only thing i can think of that would make this guy's career get thrown out the window is indeed, death. |
saengdao said: this is a great mystery to read, super interesting. everything looks normal and nothing creepy hidden in it, from the tweet about hospitalization, to the wikipedia pages. it could very well be he died from the bile duct stones. although when it look it up, it's rare to die from that unless it's actually a disease or something of that nature. I thought the same thing in regards to his bile ducts stones, but even in the rare case of someone passing away, one would think there was an announcement about his passing anywhere on the web. But, there isn't. When I searched his name in English and added the word "death" to it, it just showed me results about a local rapper from my area passing away, though their names are completely different. Just wondering, when you search up his name in English and add the word "death" to it, what sort of results do you get? although when i look up inusuke matsuhashi, i come across pages linked to his name also with kensuke matsuhashi, coming from links listed in a wikidata page. it could be so his birth name or another alias. if he did have connections with underground organizations, the yakuza, or political parties, he could've took on that alias and left in fear of them. although that alias is too close to his real name, i'd find the name alias too far fetched and stupid. This is very interesting new info, thanks so much for searching it up! :D When I search up that name in EN, unlike "Inusuke"(+matsuhashi) which had some info linked to Japanese , the name "Kensuke"(at least first pg results) gave me only English+a couple of French results. Also, when I searched just the name "Inusuke"both in JP and EN, it linked back to this mangaka. However, when I searched just "kensuke" in JP and EN in various kanji variations wiki has given me, it showed various people, subjects, towns, etc. So, I thought that was interesting, though I have no clue what to make of that info. Perhaps Inusuke is a weird & rare nickname that may be a play on words and/or combination of some words that the mangaka chose? I don't know anything about Kanji, so who knows what it means. I agree that taking on an alias like that to hide away from something like the Yakuza is a stupid move, so I agree to cross out the suggestion that he used it to hide from such organisation. i would honestly doubt the yakuza to actually get involved with a simple mangaka though, tons of mangakas make mangas and stories about the yakuza. unless the guy had something big, i wouldn't imagine them to hop on him. quite frankly my japanese isnt nearly as good enough to dig any further than reading a little katakana and hiragana about his works. man i hope this dude gets found or the case is resolved, cause this is peaking my curiosity. really, the only thing i can think of that would make this guy's career get thrown out the window is indeed, death. Agree about the yakuza involvement seeming far fetched. I just wonder who wrote the info of him having such connection. The only thing we know is that someone has an Osaka IP. Which even then, may actually not be the real location in which this editor had added this info. Best we can do is look for the bread crumbs, which for me at least, was his twitter. But, from the google translate translations, it shows nothing outstanding, just mostly promotional stuff. Thanks again for helping this research. I hope more info can come to light! |
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| Well that was a riveting read, thank you. I'm also interested in those twitter replies in that post with the IV bags. |
stand said: Well that was a riveting read, thank you. I'm also interested in those twitter replies in that post with the IV bags. Thanks for reading my posts! :) Is there anything significant that you've found in regards to the replies? Because all I saw were "your health comes first, so better take care of it!" replies circa 2015, followed by "where is he? what happened? /why is there no explanation?/I'm worried..." type of replies circa 2016/'17/'18. |
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foxsuprise said: Is there anything significant that you've found in regards to the replies? Because all I saw were "your health comes first, so better take care of it!" replies circa 2015, followed by "where is he? what happened? /why is there no explanation?/I'm worried..." type of replies circa 2016/'17/'18. No sorry. Sadly i'm of no help since I don't know Japanese. Quick online translating led me to the same 'I pray for your health/i'll be waiting for sensei' type of comments. It's still very interesting. You would think that some of his fans who are able to sleuth around the internet would have discovered more information by now. But maybe they just stay away from the darker areas of the JP internet out of fear. |
stand said: foxsuprise said: Is there anything significant that you've found in regards to the replies? Because all I saw were "your health comes first, so better take care of it!" replies circa 2015, followed by "where is he? what happened? /why is there no explanation?/I'm worried..." type of replies circa 2016/'17/'18. No sorry. Sadly i'm of no help since I don't know Japanese. Quick online translating led me to the same 'I pray for your health/i'll be waiting for sensei' type of comments. It's still very interesting. You would think that some of his fans who are able to sleuth around the internet would have discovered more information by now. But maybe they just stay away from the darker areas of the JP internet out of fear. That's alright, as long as I sparked an interest for something that sounds so bizarre that it should be made into a documentary in others. Out of curiosity, when you search "Inusuke matsuhashi death", what sort of results do you get on google? because for some reason, it seems to show a death in my local region regardless if I have location on or not |
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foxsuprise said: thought the same thing in regards to his bile ducts stones, but even in the rare case of someone passing away, one would think there was an announcement about his passing anywhere on the web. But, there isn't. When I searched his name in English and added the word "death" to it, it just showed me results about a local rapper from my area passing away, though their names are completely different. Just wondering, when you search up his name in English and add the word "death" to it, what sort of results do you get? when i search up his name, the results i get are just different manga sites or pages about him and his works. whilst doing it in japanese results in a lot of articles and tweets about his works, nothing potential death. This is very interesting new info, thanks so much for searching it up! :D When I search up that name in EN, unlike "Inusuke"(+matsuhashi) which had some info linked to Japanese , the name "Kensuke"(at least first pg results) gave me only English+a couple of French results. Also, when I searched just the name "Inusuke"both in JP and EN, it linked back to this mangaka. However, when I searched just "kensuke" in JP and EN in various kanji variations wiki has given me, it showed various people, subjects, towns, etc. So, I thought that was interesting, though I have no clue what to make of that info. Perhaps Inusuke is a weird & rare nickname that may be a play on words and/or combination of some words that the mangaka chose? I don't know anything about Kanji, so who knows what it means. I agree that taking on an alias like that to hide away from something like the Yakuza is a stupid move, so I agree to cross out the suggestion that he used it to hide from such organisation. From looking at the names,and inusuke is 犬輔. matsuhashi is 松橋, and both of them individually mean dog and pine bridge. kensuke's common kanji is 健介, meaning something along the lines of health. dog pine bridge and dog health, doesnt seem to be any correlation nor a pun or joke is involved. seems like inusuke is a rare name, and kensuke is common for athletes. this stuff would be a ton easier if there was a native at or someone good at japanese. Agree about the yakuza involvement seeming far fetched. I just wonder who wrote the info of him having such connection. The only thing we know is that someone has an Osaka IP. Which even then, may actually not be the real location in which this editor had added this info. Best we can do is look for the bread crumbs, which for me at least, was his twitter. But, from the google translate translations, it shows nothing outstanding, just mostly promotional stuff. Thanks again for helping this research. I hope more info can come to light! it could be the person with the osaka ip just made up rumors and left honestly. i wonder if they just said "it's the yakuza" and left, or if they had a more thorough theory and never put it out there. if it was not death that took him since you did point out there would've been an official announcement, then every theory is open basically. it'll be hard to narrow it down without a bigger search, which i hope is spread. totally hope to hear about more of this eventually. |
| This was a pretty interesting theory to read, even though I think it's not really a possibility lol. It isn't that rare to see a mangaka go on an indefinite hiatus and not finish their work. In this case the person even had a good excuse as he/she was hospitalized. - Maybe he decided it wouldn't be worth continuing after a point, a long hiatus lowers the popularity of a series. And he couldn't think of a new story yet. - Maybe he wasn't earning enough, and decided to follow a different career. - Maybe his illness turned out to be something more serious. There could be many more explanations, and they're all more believable than a random person's crazy conspiracy theory on the internet. foxsuprise said: I just think it's strange that a pretty well known guy who had a popular magazine publication(look under "DL" for sales numbers) completely disappear from the face of the internet as well as the publishing company, with no announcements anywhere about it. That's just the number of downloads the app has. Of course the mobile application of Shounen Jump (which contains popular series from the main Jump magazine like Dragon Ball and Jojo too) is super popular, but it doesn't necessarily mean this manga in particular was selling well. Web serializations sometimes randomly get discontinued, and I think some publishers don't care enough about them to make announcements. Gesu to Kamisama was a series that suddenly stopped right before the final, the author said next chapter would be the final and didn't say a word about the manga after that. Similar story with Mizuiro Idea, although the mangaka of that one later explained on her blog that she decided to stop writing because she had an argument with ComicWalker (web magazine) when they said the next volume would be published digital-only. These manga still look as if they are ongoing with unknown next chapter date (aka hiatus) on ComicWalker after years. If the authors are not responsible people like Mizuiro Idea's mangaka and don't post an explanation on their blog/twitter, we will never know what happens to series like these and if they're going to continue or not. |
| Wow, so mysterious! Interesting read.. Hope that he's okay. |
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saengdao said: when i search up his name, the results i get are just different manga sites or pages about him and his works. whilst doing it in japanese results in a lot of articles and tweets about his works, nothing potential death. alright, thanks for searching it up! I wonder why it was region locked for me then, though I searched with no location on or anything... From looking at the names,and inusuke is 犬輔. matsuhashi is 松橋, and both of them individually mean dog and pine bridge. kensuke's common kanji is 健介, meaning something along the lines of health. dog pine bridge and dog health, doesnt seem to be any correlation nor a pun or joke is involved. seems like inusuke is a rare name, and kensuke is common for athletes. this stuff would be a ton easier if there was a native at or someone good at japanese. Thanks for the translation, and that explains a lot, though now I wonder why I didn't get articles/images of dogs then. Plus, is having a name being the equivalent of "dog" an appropriate name? It sounds so strange to me when hearing it in English. I agree about how much easier it would be if there was someone fluent JP to explain this stuff. But, you have explained a lot to someone like me who knows practically nothing in regards to the language, so congrats for that! it could be the person with the osaka ip just made up rumors and left honestly. i wonder if they just said "it's the yakuza" and left, or if they had a more thorough theory and never put it out there. if it was not death that took him since you did point out there would've been an official announcement, then every theory is open basically. it'll be hard to narrow it down without a bigger search, which i hope is spread. totally hope to hear about more of this eventually. That's definitely true, though one would think that after the numerous edits after this claim of "some pressure from the underground" , this info would disappear. As well, it's pretty weird for someone to edit such a claim too after 3 years of inactivity and irrelevancy from the mangaka, but what do I know about trolls... |
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Jinbou said: - Maybe he decided it wouldn't be worth continuing after a point, a long hiatus lowers the popularity of a series. And he couldn't think of a new story yet. - Maybe he wasn't earning enough, and decided to follow a different career. - Maybe his illness turned out to be something more serious. -definitely a possibility, he could've had burnout, even with all his ambition prior to incident -can be also true, though I have no idea if income is stable enough for a mangaka who had a good enough success to start physical manga publishing overseas in a mostly digital magazine -is also a possibility, though publishers never announced anything like an extended hiatus There could be many more explanations, and they're all more believable than a random person's crazy conspiracy theory on the internet. Agreed. But I am curious on what actually happened. I guess crazy conspiracies and explanations get thrown around when people (including myself) feel the need to fill the gap due to lack of info. foxsuprise said: I just think it's strange that a pretty well known guy who had a popular magazine publication(look under "DL" for sales numbers) completely disappear from the face of the internet as well as the publishing company, with no announcements anywhere about it. That's just the number of downloads the app has. Of course the mobile application of Shounen Jump (which contains popular series from the main Jump magazine like Dragon Ball and Jojo too) is super popular, but it doesn't necessarily mean this manga in particular was selling well. True, I haven't found physical vol numbers. Though it may be still pretty good considering the French version released all the latest available volumes (available in Japan) even before the hiatus. Since I find that unless it is somewhat popular, (or very slow progress of release, which this manga didn't have), overseas publications tend to be a vol or two behind the latest complete JP vol. And like you said, it is from a very successful magazine publication. Web serializations sometimes randomly get discontinued, and I think some publishers don't care enough about them to make announcements. Gesu to Kamisama was a series that suddenly stopped right before the final, the author said next chapter would be the final and didn't say a word about the manga after that. Similar story with Mizuiro Idea, although the mangaka of that one later explained on her blog that she decided to stop writing because she had an argument with ComicWalker (web magazine) when they said the next volume would be published digital-only. These manga still look as if they are ongoing with unknown next chapter date (aka hiatus) on ComicWalker after years. If the authors are not responsible people like Mizuiro Idea's mangaka and don't post an explanation on their blog/twitter, we will never know what happens to series like these and if they're going to continue or not. It sucks that two ComicWalker mangas are incomplete with no announcements. Though in the case of Gesu to Kamisama, the mangaka is still active on his social media even after not completing his work, whereas the latter case has some sort of explanation as to why it's incomplete. In the case Kamisama, Kisama wo Koroshitai, the mangaka not only had no updates on behalf of a fairly large publishing company, but also his social media in general, which is why it piqued my interest. I understand losing ambition, or encountering obstacles and the like to continue, but we are left in the dust on even his whereabouts of whether he's alive or not. Anyhow, very good theories all around. Thanks for putting in the effort for this conversation, it was pretty interesting! |
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| holyshit i'm reading this manga and never heard about this maybe because i was still stalling reading it (still at chapter 23) so i didn't get to the end yet god damn |
| What happens in the underground stays in the underground. I hope we learned something valuable from this. |
mamojama said: holyshit i'm reading this manga and never heard about this maybe because i was still stalling reading it (still at chapter 23) so i didn't get to the end yet god damn There's only 5 more ch left for you then, so you're not far from completing it. Hope I didn't spoiler the ending for you... ^.^; Only_Brad said: What happens in the underground stays in the underground. I hope we learned something valuable from this. The lesson is......the government the yakuza is always watching |
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| Is nothing particularly exceptional. Japanese are peoples who are very intimate. Is very easy for a Japanese to disappear from the public eye if he wants. The society doesn't bother you if you want to be left alone. So yeah, many authors may choose to abandon social media, and then the publisher will respect their rights to privacy. If you had been a manga fan for long, you will get used to this... to wondering what the fuck does an author do, and where it vanished. I remember the hiatus of the D-Gray Man author... we knew she had some health problems, and she will be back, and then for the next +3years we didn't even know if she was alive... then one day she made an Instagram account, and we discovered her. And even with that, she would say nothing if she returns or not. Same with the author of Nana, who had been in hiatus for what? 7 years? This is how Japanese live... is nearly impossible to find information about peoples if they don't want to be found. In the West, you can find info about how some person from some stupid meme or random picture is doing, with little effort... but when it comes to Japan. Heaven have mercy on your soul. So is nothing with Yakuza and stuff like that. Yakuza are very public, have always been. They had been so public that there were tabloid magazines that would follow up the newest events in their world... Moreover, today they are dying out. Japan took some harsh measures that really reduced their numbers and power. |
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| I am somewhat familiar with japanese. I searched a bit and could not find anything new. There was one more note of goodbye: He states almost the same thing as in his twitter post. The weird thing is that it was uploaded the exact same date as the tweet. Which I thought was odd. I have not read the manga and the message might come from it. Do you guys have any insight? |
| Quite interesting theories. Hope it can be solved one day. |
| to me, it sounds like they're either still being hospitalized with some chronic disease and went silent, or passed away and was never prevalent enough in the manga community to where they felt the need to release their death publically. |
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