Are girls really attracted to the playboy/"alpha" type?

Scud said:
5 whole pages of this embarrassing tripe.

aiji_hotaru said:
What an interesting thread.. (5 pages? o_O)

To answer, guys with that trait are not attractive at all (playboys, I mean).
But we sure are attracted to men with backbone.

yomachi said:
I've already killed 3 other males and my dad. Am I an alpha yet? :D

CJ_Kiyoruki said:
I've learned from experience that guys who're more the "beta" type can be quite tiring to be with. I end up making all the decisions and they never really give me an opinion so I kinda feel like a micro-manager; especially in the first months of the relationship when I don't know their taste too well.

yomachi said:
"What do you wanna eat for dinner?"
"I don't know. What do you feel like eating?"
"I don't know, what do you wanna eat?"
"Nevermind I'm not hungry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

CJ_Kiyoruki said:
@--ALEX--

I mean all girls are different, but personally, I like it in moderation. I've learned from experience that guys who're more the "beta" type can be quite tiring to be with. I end up making all the decisions and they never really give me an opinion so I kinda feel like a micro-manager; especially in the first months of the relationship when I don't know their taste too well. Asked my ex where he wanted to go for lunch one day, he says "anywhere you love cuz I love you". Take him to get crepes. He waits till he GETS THERE to be like, "I don't like crepes"; WTF. I don't think that's cute or endearing, me just sitting there looking at you with only a glass of water. And then there's those guys who sound like they ripped of an Ed Sheeran song, it's nice that I'm a guy's #1, but it's kinda boring being with someone who acts like their whole world is about me; I have parents for that (Lol, jk).

For girls, like me, who have such busy schedules, a man who takes action to guarantee time with you is attractive. A man willing to plan and take initiative in a relationship is even hotter. A man who takes on chores is A F***ING KEEPER!! Granted, I don't like cocky d***s who think they can order s*** for you and act like being their lover is a privilege. That's why I like it in moderation, if anything I like a confident guy with an opinion.

Cbr_Star said:

...You expect an "Alpha" to do chores? lol. Besides your a psychology student don't you feel that Social Dominance Theory much better explains the situations that you have experienced then the whole bunk "Alpha" theory?

CJ_Kiyoruki said:

For girls, like me, who have such busy schedules, a man who takes action to guarantee time with you is attractive. A man willing to plan and take initiative in a relationship is even hotter. A man who takes on chores is A F***ING KEEPER!! Granted, I don't like cocky d***s who think they can order s*** for you and act like being their lover is a privilege. That's why I like it in moderation, if anything I like a confident guy with an opinion.

Cbr_Star said:
...You expect an "Alpha" to do chores? lol. Besides your a psychology student don't you feel that Social Dominance Theory much better explains the situations that you have experienced then the whole bunk "Alpha" theory?

Cbr_Star said:
I had the same issues with my ex, and even some friends, in the past and I'm a male. According to people, I'm assertive and know how to have my way. Do alpha guys like alpha women too? lol this shitty tabloid theory.

annmaryjay said:


Ah, every time I come back from a break I fall in love with the forums again lol.

I prefer alpha in the house but definitely wouldn't fall for an "all around alpha" who does all that alpha shit in public. It's just embarrassing imho. And never ever a playboy. But I like competing (for fun) with those guys about who has the best alpha features. I like being more alpha female in certain surroundings but prefer being beta in the house.

149597871 said:
What?? I thought you were banned for that boob pic that I warned you to delete before the mods arrive and you didn't listen to me.

Fuck the house, I only care about women being alpha in a certain room.

annmaryjay said:


No way, I didn't even get a warning for that! :'D I was just sleeping through all my free time for a month lol.

Well in a certain room the guy needs to be extra alpha for me.

annmaryjay said:

Because the guys are being too soft ...

annmaryjay said:


Haha, I didn't mean THAT kind of soft you little perv. Oh, you didn't mean that either? I wonder which one is the perv here then ...

149597871 said:


Oh... how disappointing... no, no I meant the latter... Anyway, I thought we can truly advance mankind...



Yes, the effect of soy food finally kicks in!!

Sorry, I don't know what I'm typing anymore, welcome back to that wonderful place.

-Elegant- said:
I find funny people thinking that what it matters is 'Confidence' HAHAHAHA.

This video is a total redpill about looks, PUA and 'confidence'



Looks is all that matters.

StarSwoardsman said:

LOL. Good luck. Hope your way of life works for you.

CJ_Kiyoruki said:


Yes, I would expect an "alpha" male to do chores; not all of them, but chores. Personally cleaning one's house allows someone to manage their personal environment and determine its organization, therefore, I don't think that cleaning would be out of character for an "alpha". Also if you consider the characteristics and backgrounds of myself and my ex-lover, than it'd be rash to say my experiences could be explained by Social Dominance. Not to mention, Social Dominance is primarily used to explain social groups, it's not really used to explain personal relationships. Of course, I didn't include those facts in my little anecdote (that would make it too long and irrelevant) so the fact that you were mistaken is understandable. :)

Cbr_Star said:


That's the thing the Alpah-Beta theory was first used to explain how a "Group" of animals behave in a pack, and people have tried to use it for humans and it simply doesn't work.

I believe SDT does apply to your experience. You didn't like being the dominant one, instead you much rather be submissive maybe there's a better explanation for this?

StarSwoardsman said:

Here's the thing, we are human animals. It's unbelievable how people think that their superior to animals just because we are human beings. That's not how it works at all.

Cbr_Star said:


There's a huge difference in how humans and animals relate sexually. And that is humans can look at a sexual partner and say NO!. In the animal world the strongest and fittest automatically does get to mate with who ever it chooses. In human society if you ran around doing that hopefully you would be put in jail. Most humans find that behavior repugnant and wrong.

StarSwoardsman said:

Obviously we are civilized. But, in reality, we have the same animalistic urges that a Lion or Bear does. Back before modern society it was more like wild animals to begin with.

A modern alpha is someone who gets what he wants in a civil and legal way without abusing his power. A good example of a modern alpha is Leonardo DiCaprio. He is a huge movie star and always gets the projects that he wants done. If you read about how he got The Aviator and Wolf of Wallstreet made it's kinda brilliant. And, he gets tons of women as one of the Jonas brothers reported how he left a club with 20 women after he broke up with his girlfriend. He does this without having to use his power which is why (knock on wood) you'll never hear about him having a sexual allegation.

StarSwoardsman said:


You are being WAY too myopic about this.

Obviously we are civilized. But, in reality, we have the same animalistic urges that a Lion or Bear does. Back before modern society it was more like wild animals to begin with.

A modern alpha is someone who gets what he wants in a civil and legal way without abusing his power. A good example of a modern alpha is Leonardo DiCaprio. He is a huge movie star and always gets the projects that he wants done. If you read about how he got The Aviator and Wolf of Wallstreet made it's kinda brilliant. And, he gets tons of women as one of the Jonas brothers reported how he left a club with 20 women after he broke up with his girlfriend. He does this without having to use his power which is why (knock on wood) you'll never hear about him having a sexual allegation.

Thanakos said:


If your theory needs to be adjusted for every new observation, it's probably a very bad one.

Cbr_Star said:

There's nothing "Alpha" about Danny Devito he's short, out of shape, and bald. He has had only one wife. Yet he's been voted for sexiest actor by glamour magazine. And you might not remember because your too young but women used to go crazy for him back in the late 80's.

Personality goes a long way. I've dated beautiful women just to find out they were psychotic, and I've met so-so looking girls but the better I got to know them the better looking they got. In the animal kingdom personality's are meaningless, but with humans if your going to be stuck with someone for 50+ years you have to be able to talk to them.



...There's lots of "beta" guys who get girls out of their league and vice versa.

StarSwoardsman said:


But, in reality, we have the same animalistic urges that a Lion or Bear does.

ThrashMatto said:
So what you're suggesting is that guys who enter relationships with single mothers should kill the children since they aren't biologically his? I mean if we have the same animalistic urges as lions then clearly that's what you're insinuating. The "Well, it's true for some animals, and we're animals, so it must be true with us" line of thinking is stupid. Alpha-Beta dynamics do indeed exist in SOME animals, including SOME primates. However, there has been no scientific evidence supporting your assertion that it exists within our species. If you have evidence that supports your opinion, please present it.

Cbr_Star said:
That's the thing the Alpah-Beta theory was first used to explain how a "Group" of animals behave in a pack, and people have tried to use it for humans and it simply doesn't work.

I believe SDT does apply to your experience. You didn't like being the dominant one, instead you much rather be submissive maybe there's a better explanation for this?

But, don't think for a second that you can get a girl 100% based off of your personality. It gets you into the door, but there are other things that need to go off in a girl before she goes out with you.

Cbr_Star said:


Maybe with your personality you won't get a date.lol
I can't help think that your a "Beta" who idolizes and wishes he was a "alpha" and you don't like to hear that it's simply untrue and all bunk. It's good to look up to someone successful and all but don't put yourself down because of them.

CJ_Kiyoruki said:


I still think you don't get so I'll summarize it:

-First and foremost PEOPLE ARE ANIMALS!!! Don't get it twisted.

-Alright next up, there are 2 PEOPLE in a couple. 2 people, dos personas, 二人。Because of this...

-It's INAPPROPRIATE to use SDT in my situation BECAUSE the theory usually looks at humanity as a population, as an ANIMAL SPECIES.

-Even if I WERE to humor you, your hypothesis would still be off. You think that I didn't like being the "alpha" and wanted him to take charge so I could be the "Beta"? That can't be since I was never the alpha. If you look at the factors that are focused on in the SDT, my ex-lover, according to the theory, would be the dominant one. I would've never been the "alpha" in the first place.

As Prosecutor Sahdmadhi would say, it is now time to "let it go, and move on". XD

Cbr_Star said:
See your totally missing the point. You said that you didn't like making the decisions like where to go to eat like the crepes shop. You are submissive who isn't comfortable being dominant in the relationship I.E making the decisions. Your ex lover was also submissive which put a strain on the relationship because you wanted him to be more dominant and take charge.

And according to the dictionary a group=: two or more figures forming a complete unit in a composition. So therefor a relationship is a group and SDT totally applies.

StarSwoardsman said:
All you've done in this thread is project.

All this guy is doing is projecting. He has nothing to say.

StarSwoardsman said:
your projecting your beta self image onto me.

StarSwoardsman said:
You are just projecting bro

-Elegant- said:
Sure, it is their biological instinct, nothing can be done to revert this, women have a similar taste when it comes to men, they want almost the same male type with little variances, unlike men who have taste for all kind of women.

StarSwoardsman said:

LOL, no such thing as an alpha male?

Alpha males and beta males exist.

Psyotic said:


They somewhat do, but it has more to do with context of the structure of the group rather than any overarching biological causes. One person could be the dominant personality in one group ("the leader" I guess), but may not be as dominant or a leader in another group.

"Alphas" and "Betas" exist within social circles, but the notion that such dynamics can be applied to the human species at large is the subject of a lot of controversy. Even the founder of the theory, David Mech, disavowed the terminology. At the very least, you could argue that it's a contentious topic with the field of ethology, but that's about as far as you could get tbh.

StarSwoardsman said:

It's really just a way of life. Neither one is wrong per say. But a man can either go through life as an alpha or beta. Most men will be beta because they can't handle being alone and need women.

Psyotic said:


Wut? Okay, maybe you didn't get what I was saying. The point is that no one is just an alpha or just a beta, humans are more complex than that. So while a person can more dominant in one situation, they will be more submissive in another situation. It's based entirely on the group and the context, it has nothing to do with not wanting to be alone or wanting to have a woman.

StarSwoardsman said:

There are three main types of Alpha males. The one that is alpha with both women and in regard to career. The only that is alpha with women, but only works a 9-5. And the one that has an amazing career, but isn't good with women. The first being a true alpha.

To be a true alpha you must have a great career and be making money doing what you want. You have to be able to date several different women at once. You have to be able to detach from the women that you are involve with. You have to be able to be alone and not be in a committed relationship. A true alpha basically doesn't need anyone or anything, but can get anything that he puts his mind too.

The term alpha has been around since the beginning of time.

HaXXspetten said:
How is this thread still alive? :o

Well anyway I can understand where people like that are coming from, I mean I'd love to be pinned down by a dominant and confident guy as well, but nevertheless this whole "alpha" and "beta" trope idea has gotten way out of control >.>

teruu said:


That is disgusting. As a male, I would never lay a finger on a female let alone 'pin you down'

Females really need to keep their ovaries in check or fantasies like these appear. As a male, the only thing I want to do for a female is show them respect. Pinning down is the exact opposite.

Gan_water said:


"Pinning down" i mean come on that's just like putting your hands on a girl's shoulders. Pretty common sex move really.

Also Haxxspetten's a dude

teruu said:


Uh no! It literally means to pin her down
Females like to be dominated

Not sure if you even know what you are talking about. Clearly not

And wow! what kind of sick role play is that. Sounds like mental issues

teruu said:


That is disgusting. As a male, I would never lay a finger on a female let alone 'pin you down'

Females really need to keep their ovaries in check or fantasies like these appear. As a male, the only thing I want to do for a female is show them respect. Pinning down is the exact opposite.