james501 said: Plus, slapstick comedy works there because there is no "plot" whatsover. There is no story, no characterss so to speak, no development so this kind of comedy works better in its small sketches. When applied to something like Fullmetal Alchemist or Naruto or any other show that tries to take itself seriously and tell a story it is cringy. There's an important distinction to be made there. "X beats up Y" comedy doesn't work in anything remotely serious because it's an abusive relationship, and those aren't funny. But slapstick can also function through bad luck or misadventure, if it's not happening because another person willed it to happen, you don't have the same issue. |
| Japanese people actually love their puns, and anime is often filled with untranslatable kanji puns that give subbers headaches. Why would you expect them to make english puns? ^_- Some jap sexual comedies are really cringe, but then there's American Pie, so I'm not too sure where you're coming from. Try City Hunter or Golden Boy |
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Pullman said: Omkar_Nagwade said: If you want American SJW crap, you watch cartoons. Japan doesn't give a fuck about putting satire and philosophy in their anime. wtf kind of delusional generalization is that? The mindless anti-SJW hatred must have fried your brain :(. Shit like this pisses me off sometimes(I'm totally calm now, don't worry:)) . He's essentially asking why are you guys enjoying stuff I can't? Also, he hasn't even watched any comedy anime to begin with. |
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Omkar_Nagwade said: Pullman said: wtf kind of delusional generalization is that? The mindless anti-SJW hatred must have fried your brain :(. Shit like this pisses me off sometimes(I'm totally calm now, don't worry:)) . He's essentially asking why are you guys enjoying stuff I can't? Also, he hasn't even watched any comedy anime to begin with. I mean, I also shit on OP earlier for the reasons you mentioned but that's no reason to randomly include /pol/ memes or similar toxicity in your reasoning. I just hate mindless anti SJW hatred. God knows there are enough tangible examples of being justified with complaints about SJW actions or articles, but when you just bring it up out of nowhere all the time it seems like ideological obsession of the exact same kind that real SJWs suffer from. That kind of stuff triggers me :>. The political climate is divisive enough without people turning completely unrelated, individual issues into their ideological playgrounds. |
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| Different culture, different humour. I'm from the UK, and I find some American comedies (like Bob's Burgers and Family Guy) really stupid, as gross out, shock factor humour just isn't my thing. Personally, I find British humour in general to be a lot more satirical (Have I Got News for You, Mock the Week) and sarcastic, with lots of self deprecation and deadpan delivery, which is what I prefer, probably because it's what I'm used to. I also enjoy surreal humour like Monty Python. It's literally just what you're used to seeing. A lot of the jokes won't be as funny to Western people because of the culture discrepancies. Also, we're reading subtitles. Some of the humour will always be lost in translation. A lot of phrases and jokes in English wouldn't make sense at all it another language. Also, repetitive comedy isn't an anime problem :P Most comedies are like that :') |
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logopolis said: james501 said: Plus, slapstick comedy works there because there is no "plot" whatsover. There is no story, no characterss so to speak, no development so this kind of comedy works better in its small sketches. When applied to something like Fullmetal Alchemist or Naruto or any other show that tries to take itself seriously and tell a story it is cringy. There's an important distinction to be made there. "X beats up Y" comedy doesn't work in anything remotely serious because it's an abusive relationship, and those aren't funny. But slapstick can also function through bad luck or misadventure, if it's not happening because another person willed it to happen, you don't have the same issue. That kinda depends. It is funny in One Piece for example because the entire world and all the characters are over the top and quirky. Or when it happens to a side character who was a genuine asshole instead of the Main character who is innocent. But when it happens in Naruto ior FMAb it is obnoxious |
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mikey2218 said: I mean seriously anime comedy sucks hard. It's all just an over abundance of fan service, mixed with some guy walking in on a girl changing, and then getting his ass kicked. I've never seen any good puns or heard any good pop culture references in anime comedy. The only anime comedies that actually made me laugh were prison school and one punch man (cause it was a good parody of overpowered anime characters). Prison School because it took some influence from western comedy (gross out gags, nudity, very in your face shock) and combined them with strong themes of friendship that made me pull for the main characters till the end. Sure, it had a lot of fan service but it was so over the top and disgusting I couldn't help but laugh. All the others I've seen just flat out suck. So why is anime comedy so terrible compared to excellent western animated comedy like south park, family guy, bob's burgers, futurama? i mean the former uses a lot of gross out humor but it also mocks and make you question some things going on in modern society such as subtle political satire, some interesting perspectives on philosophy, and good puns. You need to be watching Gintama and Cromartie High. There's good anime comedy, you just gotta know where to look for it. :) |
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mikey2218 said: I mean seriously anime comedy sucks hard. It's all just an over abundance of fan service, mixed with some guy walking in on a girl changing, and then getting his ass kicked. I've never seen any good puns or heard any good pop culture references in anime comedy. The only anime comedies that actually made me laugh were prison school and one punch man (cause it was a good parody of overpowered anime characters). Prison School because it took some influence from western comedy (gross out gags, nudity, very in your face shock) and combined them with strong themes of friendship that made me pull for the main characters till the end. Sure, it had a lot of fan service but it was so over the top and disgusting I couldn't help but laugh. All the others I've seen just flat out suck. So why is anime comedy so terrible compared to excellent western animated comedy like south park, family guy, bob's burgers, futurama? i mean the former uses a lot of gross out humor but it also mocks and make you question some things going on in modern society such as subtle political satire, some interesting perspectives on philosophy, and good puns. Well, I think what you're describing in bold is generic slice of life/ecchi/harem anime that is mass produced by anime studios in Japan. I too do not find those situations to be all that funny. With that being said, there are plenty of funny anime out there that do not incorporate this and/or execute this concept much better than you described. Some examples include: -Prison School (the latter statement I made applies here) -Welcome to the NHK (at times, certainly in a more hysterical type of laughter) -Great Teacher Onizuka -Samurai Champloo (mainly the situations Mugen gets himself in and how he reacts to them) -Steins Gate (again, at times in a more hysterical type of laughter) -DxD (probably not the best example, but I found it funny at times) -Black Lagoon (actually laughed quite a lot here with Remy and her vulgarity...probably due to my tastes) The list goes on. I know I am speaking to my own tastes, but I think there are plenty of anime, while not heavily considered to be in the comedy genre, that incorporate comedy into them that in turn generates a lot of laughter within the anime community. I suppose that's where I get the most of my laughs rather than with shows that try to force laughter down your throat (is this a pun at all?). |
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ThatCynicalOtaku said: james501 said: Plus, slapstick comedy works there because there is no "plot" whatsover. There is no story, no characterss so to speak, no development so this kind of comedy works better in its small sketches. When applied to something like Fullmetal Alchemist or Naruto or any other show that tries to take itself seriously and tell a story it is cringy. Why does slapstick comedy have to have no plot to work? I specifically refer to the slapstick comedy of Tom and Jerry. You cant pretend to have a plot that you take seriously and then put such antics on. The contrast is too big. At least any anime that I see do it pretty much fails. |
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R3dPlaty said: all media comedy is terrible and repetitive. disney channel, cartoon network, bbt and shows that are like that all recycle jokes from older series their producers created. If I had a penny for every time disney channel made a lame joke about something falling and queuing in a cat shrieking... I'm not sure. Cartoon Network - at least in the 00's or so - had a golden age of unique jokes. Each show had its own style. But yeah, pre-packaged comedy is often not as good as jokes that rise out of social interaction. |
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| Maybe because Japan doesn't think of antics that are just for laughs (anime humor is absent in something with sophomoric, bizarre, subtle, unexpected, unpredictable yet sophisticated hilarity). I have yet to see most anime with mockery made with such masterful asininity that will make you laugh so painfully with tears rolling down your cheeks. Look at ecchi anime, it still suffers from laziness where much of the humour are just mindless, sexualized jokes with poor attempts at shocking the audience. |
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Kurt_Irving said: Maybe because Japan doesn't think of antics that are just for laughs (anime humor is absent in something with sophomoric, bizarre, subtle, unexpected, unpredictable yet sophisticated hilarity). I have yet to see most anime with mockery made with such masterful asininity that will make you laugh so painfully with tears rolling down your cheeks. Look at ecchi anime, it still suffers from laziness where much of the humour are just mindless, sexualized jokes with poor attempts at shocking the audience. Ecchi isn't really any way to measure comedy. It takes a lighthearted tone because it has to. It rarely tries to have any actual jokes. |
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mikey2218 said: It's all just an over abundance of fan service, mixed with some guy walking in on a girl changing, and then getting his ass kicked. Holy over generalization batman. I've never seen any good puns or heard any good pop culture references in anime comedy. Pop culture references are one of the easiest ways to date an anime. Good comedy is timeless. So why is anime comedy so terrible compared to excellent western animated comedy like south park, family guy, bob's burgers, futurama? Family Guy is shit cut away gags. South Park used to be good but has went to shit with recent seasons. Futurama has some good episodes but is only okay overall. Haven't seen Bob's Burgers. i mean the former uses a lot of gross out humor but it also mocks and make you question some things going on in modern society such as subtle political satire Having Mr. Garisson dress and act like Trump is not subtle. |
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