| @flannan Right, when I wrote "until recently", I meant until I tried Berzerk this summer. The thing is: how are those fictions "teaching" us to rape? There is no promotion of this act. The characters are not rewarded for it and usually it is used as a depiction of evil. Even in Urotsukidoji, it was presented as a "demoniac weapon". (except in your hentai examples) To teach something necessitates to demonstrate some benefits. Like in 24, the torture done by the "good people" is actually rewarded. (and even in this example, I doubt that the teaching was intentional) @aging0601 The text is incomplete. It is either: - "Target creature"... what? - or: what?... to "target creature". |
JustALEX said: Oh and I like how 8man is the choice for "Edginess" Well, the are edgy anime, but Hachiman is an edgy person. Hinata said: One time on a school camping trip before departure. Boy A : First thing I'm gonna do at the camp. Boy B : Ya? Boy A : I'm gonna sneak into the hot springs and peek at the girls. Boy B : Dude, that only happens in anime. Me(in my head) : oh... Note : Btw just regular camping in America no hot springs on this trip btw. Japan has a lot of hot springs for some reason. The mountains of my homeland have only really cold springs (that's not bad in the heat of summer). SigOpram said: NTR made me wary of future relationships. NTR sure feels bad, but I don't think it's a reason to avoid relationships. I remember a good song about it, but it's in russian. It consists mostly of bad stuff one can avoid by not having things and people the bad stuff happens to, and ends with "If you don't live, you wouldn't have to die". Rei366 said: @flannan Right, when I wrote "until recently", I meant until I tried Berzerk this summer. The thing is: how are those fictions "teaching" us to rape? There is no promotion of this act. The characters are not rewarded for it and usually it is used as a depiction of evil. Even in Urotsukidoji, it was presented as a "demoniac weapon". (except in your hentai examples) To teach something necessitates to demonstrate some benefits. Like in 24, the torture done by the "good people" is actually rewarded. (and even in this example, I doubt that the teaching was intentional) I agree with you. I just felt we needed a few more examples. |
teruu said: Anime fans will often deny the reality of the situation but there are a lot of bad things anime teaches you. I see tons of people post here about how naruto taught them to never give up and hope and yadda yadda but never have I seen anyone acknowledge all the bad things anime teaches. Tons of users here use words like 'rape' liberally, like when someone posts 'This anime girl is in front of you, what would you do?', they will often reply with rape. Rape is nothing to joke about and neither are the negative qualities anime spreads. It's time to stop being blind and recognize that anime isn't all that good as many people make it to be.  Sexualisation, sure no one really cares.. till its hyper sexualised. — characterized tits. Not female characters with any personality to speak of, but supple, bouncy, comically large breasts. The women these breasts were attached to were not represented by their spectacular intelligence, or their bravery in battle so much as the fact that they were in possession of breasts (and in a few cases, an ass). Where the fuck do you see that in TV shows? Or games? Tomb Raider? Meanwhile Code Geass Often times people will say that these qualities only affect a few people but there is a reason it's used by other people to ridicule anime. Anime fans will always blame the actions of the affected otaku, that he is just a rare case who has his social interaction harmed by anime and never the source of the problem. Which is pretty understandable considering they love anime, but being oblivious to the negative traits of anime is just plain ignorance. Edit: It is with great sorrow that I say most of the people here have completely missed the point which is actually pretty simple. They are so offended by the fact that their beloved anime has negative qualities that they will point out every single other thing with those qualities. It's like a serial killer justifying himself by saying 'But that dude killed more than me'. It doesn't change a thing and it's irrelevant. Lord Jesus help you all! Oh look! A stupid post. Yesterday there was a guy complaining about the broad comuunity that try push anti-feminist, anti-swj and anti-religious agenda... Is seems that is actually te reverse. This is one of those ''games make you violent'' type of shit. My dear friend... there is nothing to learn from anime... maybe just Japanese and some general knowlege in different domains. That crap with ''I had learn to never give up'' and shit, is just crap said by brats who try to look cool. It can'treally learn you negative things either. Where in anime was rape presented in a positive manner? (exclude hentai which is simply a fetish). In none of it. And the difference between a rape joke and an actual rape is so high that only an idiot would care. Yeah, rape is a serious matter... but so is death, yet that doesn't stop us to joke about. Politics are serious too, as they influence our life style and future, yet there is an entire genre of comety and satire revolved around. We can joke about war, we can joke about dissease... we can joke about anything negative, because they are negative things that make us scared and anxious, we feel the need to joke about them to reduce the tension around them... because otherwise we would go crazy... Is a natural self defense mechanism. Sexualisation, sure no one really cares.. till its hyper sexualised. — characterized tits. Not female characters with any personality to speak of, but supple, bouncy, comically large breasts. Yeah, is called fanservice. Is just simply made for males entertaiment.... Womans have an entire industry of them too, is called bishouen... and they also have the BL and Yaoi one. Plus, had you read shoujo manga? The majority of the male protagonist are handsome and the most popular in shcool. Womans are not without sin either... each of us have our guilty pleasures. The fact that males enjoy boobs and butts was never a secret... is our nature and we stay true with it. If you and SWJ are asexuasl is your problem. The women these breasts were attached to were not represented by their spectacular intelligence, or their bravery in battle so much as the fact that they were in possession of breasts (and in a few cases, an ass). Where the fuck do you see that in TV shows? Or games? Tomb Raider? Meanwhile Code Geass WAIT! Your example is Tomb Rider? I trough that you talked about some dumb bitches with big boobs that are dumb and incompetent in every aspects of their life. Lara Croft is fricking badass. Her body is the last thing that matter. But beauty is part of every womans war armour. Even so that womans explore ancient ruins, fights armies, bears and dinosaurs... you peoples are crazy. So it doesn't matter how competent those womans are, how powerfull, how inteligent, etc. As long as they are sexy, they are a sexual object? You are disgusting. In other order of ideeas there are many womans like that in movies and games... The only movie I watch in present is Big Bang Theory and Lucifer... and my movie archive is not huge either.. But I remember Cat Woman, Black Angel, Maze (from Lucifer), some Wonder Woman is coming next year I think, and many other of which names I don't remember... and In games... I am not a big gamer either, but have you hear of Bayoneta? Blood Rayne, Jill Valentine (Resident Evil), etc... the game industry is full of sexy capable womans. And you give Code Geass as the reversed example? Meanwhile: Yuki in Future Diary... there is an entire troupe for pathetic male protagonist. Pathetic female protagonist are much rare and most of them exist in Shoujo Manga. The conclussion of this situation is simple: You don't like it you don't watch it. Peoples who criticize will allways be no matter what you watch. Just look at bronies. They are the laughting stock of the internet, and many criticize them... what do they learn negative from My Little Pony? The fact that ''friendship is magic''? There are many real issues in this world that need to be adressed. Womans having boobs in anime is the least of them. |
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teruu said: How many people do you see acting weird in a gaming zone compared to people in an anime club?Lmfao what's even more hilarious is the ratio of males to females. Even though there are more girls who watch anime than play fucking Call of Duty, you'll see extremely few females at anime conventions. have you ever been to a gaming convention? there ar eppl acting far worse in them then anime conventions. im not talking abt those big ass corporate events like e3 or whtevr. small ones. ppl showing up as game chars.... they do that shit in video games too. also when you jesus blessed us, I stopped caring. btw, doesnt the bible teach us incest, rape and genocide too. and that women are property. |
romagia said: sjo said: you're pretty negative yourself =pYou're right, anime is currently full of a lot of negative elements, but so is all media nowadays. As long as there will be fools to eat it up, it will never go away, sigh! i for one non ironically like main character that helps everyone and power of friendship Look at my Favorites, I love Onizuka, Kenshirou, Kamina etc. That doesn't take away from the fact that there are plenty of negative aspects to the medium as a whole. |
"I came here to sniff Madoka panties and kick witch ass and I am all out 'doka panties" - Homora Akemi |
merryfistmas said: @flannan, we don't have free will, we're products of our environment just like animals. If somebody is conditioned think that torture is acceptable, they will think it is acceptable. media, propaganda, advertisements, and art all have a profound effect on us, and while I don't think it is art's responsibility to teach us right from wrong, what is created and what is popular is very telling of our values and priorities. Please note, I'm not targeting fetishes, I understand that an unbelievable amount of people (male and female, one of my best friend's wife has a rape fetish and apparently they play it out) have fetishes as extreme as rape (and everything else you you can think of) and that porn and other media cater to that, and that it is the parent/guardians responsibility to regulate what a minor consumes. I also understand tha most unsavory material is targeted towards those who are 20+ anyways. there was no "media" in before a certain time period and things like brutal killing, torture, and pedophilia were far more acceptable... so i wouldn't say media makes anything worse.... its not like all these fetishes and shit didn't exist before media, no, media was and is just a way to express them.... i mean, we live in the safest time theres even been in history... as violent and sexual media goes up, crime goes down... that has been proven... so obviously media isn't the issue |
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