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Dec 26, 2009 4:35 AM

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francismeunier said:
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Oh and francis *points at francismeunier* you make as little sense as you usually do. ^^;

Now then, where's my season 3?
No not at all, this episode makes no sense. I agree with you about the fact they ruined the whole thing with this.
They didn't ruin anything, you peeps are just confused! it was cool man, support BONES, DO IT!
They did not ruin it? Let's see.....=>2 earths? Multiple Yins? Suou being dead but not really? A flying car like in Back To The Future? Shion being used and used? That is it for now.
2 earths, what's wrong with that? Multiple Yin's <3 Suou should've stayed dead D: Flying car was too much.
So francis, only 2 of your points there are accepted.

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3. BK-201's star is back
Oh I thought there was something bugging me, that's what it was, his star's back : D
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I don't know... First of all, I had to read some comments here to understand what was going on: I hate series that don't give you enough hints but just pop out some stupid deus ex machina and voila.
But this happened in the first season too (although at a different degree), so I expected it.

What bothered me the most was the feel you get from the series: it's totally different from the first season! We get some new characters, but none of them is "spiritually tense" as ANY of the contractors from the first season. They just took all the characters who didn't die from the first season, added some random cardboard characters and a plot made of twists only. And don't tell me that the new characters were good: they were uninteresting and with almost no depth. Where's the noir feel that made DtB so moving, so good?

It's not that bad per se: it's bad as a sequel of DtB. This feels like a spin-off: the feel is wrong, the setting is awkward, the plot seems badly sewed and all the new characters die.

I hope the continuum will settle a bit with the OVAs. Until then, this is a 7/10, because as I stated it's not that bad, still it's far away from its prequel.
Dec 26, 2009 4:41 AM

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Although many questions still remain unanswered, I think this Ending is greater than what I had expected. I was afraid like hell that Hei would die, thank god it doesn't happen! And this Ending isn't so tragic either (at least the main characters are still alive and kicking, whether they are illusions or copies or whatever)...

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I take my words back. I want a Season 3 right now. WTF has happened to Hei and Yin? BONES, I know you have done a great job, thank you very much. But you know what, this SS is way too short and it doesn't make me feel satisfied one bit. I want more!!! T_T
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Dec 26, 2009 4:55 AM

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Shion copied the planet ...
Shion copied yin..
That copy is a boy and still taking contractors soul or whatever...
Misaki became stylish syndicate member (why now?)...
This syndicate is different and i didnt get what the hell they're doing...
In the new world Shion is a boring happy ordinary girl (hate her much more now)...
July is...yeah yeah he must be happy.good kid...
New gate is opened (where?middle east?)

bla bla bla..Ok i accept them even though i didnt understand how the hell all these happened..but just at least show what happened to Hei and Yin..
The thing that made most disgusted in whole series is Misaki's "I know he's alive bla bla.." crap about Hei

They didnt answer anything at all =_=

Dec 26, 2009 4:56 AM

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francismeunier said:
KingDeadKira said:
francismeunier said:
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Oh and francis *points at francismeunier* you make as little sense as you usually do. ^^;

Now then, where's my season 3?
No not at all, this episode makes no sense. I agree with you about the fact they ruined the whole thing with this.


They didn't ruin anything, you peeps are just confused! it was cool man, support BONES, DO IT!
They did not ruin it? Let's see.....=>2 earths? Multiple Yins? Suou being dead but not really? A flying car like in Back To The Future? Shion being used and used? That is it for now.
The 2 Yins are probably Izanami and the real Yin.

As for the car, well that car always flew. It explains how in ep 10 Madame Oreille randomly disappeared from the building she was talking to Suou on.

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Dec 26, 2009 4:56 AM

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zenzennai said:
(why now?)...
Because then we know we'll get another season? : D
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Dec 26, 2009 4:57 AM

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That was terrible ending. It`s like the whole thing was to prepare us for season 3, or worse - like a longer ark then the 2 eps ones from the season 1. I`m not sure that I want a continuation - it can go only down :?
Dec 26, 2009 4:58 AM

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I wont accept this annoying loli story, Pinker than Pink: Ryuusei no Gemini with Hei as side character as a sequel to Darker than Black. As a stand-alone title it deserves 5/10 for massive plotholes, but for what the authors have done to awesome action-adventure title with deep characters I give it 2/10. (Call, me a troll or whatever you like, this title is the biggest dissapointment I've ever had in anime)
Dec 26, 2009 4:59 AM

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Ximinez said:
this title is the biggest dissapointment I've ever had in anime
11eyes was worse.
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Dec 26, 2009 5:03 AM
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Oosran said:
Ximinez said:
this title is the biggest dissapointment I've ever had in anime
11eyes was worse.


But it wasn't disappointing.
Dec 26, 2009 5:06 AM

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Arc_ said:
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Ximinez said:
this title is the biggest dissapointment I've ever had in anime
11eyes was worse.
But it wasn't disappointing.
Right you are.. My bad
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Dec 26, 2009 5:07 AM

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Ximinez said:
I wont accept this annoying loli story, Pinker than Pink: Ryuusei no Gemini


probably the best comment in this topic XD

Ximinez said:
Call, me a troll or whatever you like, this title is the biggest dissapointment I've ever had in anime


I've seen worse..
edit:oops said the same thing..but i've seen more dissappointing endings too
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Oosran said:
Ximinez said:
this title is the biggest dissapointment I've ever had in anime
11eyes was worse.

I haven't expected anything from 11eyes - i've never played the game ;)
On the contrary sequel to DtB was the second thing after a sequel to Berserk, I longed for.
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Ximinez said:
I wont accept this annoying loli story, Pinker than Pink: Ryuusei no Gemini



So, whats so bad about pink? :)
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Dec 26, 2009 5:12 AM

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July hugged Suou!
...and that's about the only thing that's completely clear for me xD
So: Hei lied to Suou about being together forever and had a nice lolicon moment with her. Shion basically created an alternate Earth, on which July, Suou and her family still live, but there's no Hei nor Shion. Genma killed Youko because he sided with CIA against Kirihara and the rest. Hazuki paid him back in a Missed Moment of Awesome fight, which was not shown to us. Kirihara is still a virgin and the creepy kid killing CIA dudes at the end is what? Yin and Shion's lovechild? Lol.
1st season > Gemini, easily.
Although I enjoyed my Magician randomly coming back. (I knew he's not totally dead)
Also, with the Meteor breaking, and BK-201 star being back, Hei's contractor abilities are also back right?
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Dec 26, 2009 5:14 AM

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Not as good as S1,but still great!
10/10 from me...

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Dec 26, 2009 5:15 AM

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Okay... that was weird.
It was too open, damn you Bones.
9/10 and I want the OVAs now >:3
Dec 26, 2009 5:19 AM

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Poor Misaki, she's still hopelessly chasing Hei.

SEASON 3 ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE?
Dec 26, 2009 5:33 AM

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Fleri said:
Poor Misaki, she's still hopelessly chasing Hei.

SEASON 3 ANNOUNCEMENT WHERE?


In our dreams xD lmao
But there are great chances that there will be S3...They can't leave things like this :3

I liked this season. 5/5 From me <3 through i'm frustrated that i don't know is Yin dead or alive... :3
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Dec 26, 2009 6:00 AM
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I have more questions than at the end of season 1.... Still, i liked how they wrapped up things even though the story barely fit into only 12 eps. And Hazuki survived, yay!
Dec 26, 2009 6:16 AM
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big wtf ending indeed....

July and Soun (and possibly Mikhail too?) go to the newly created planet

Misaki, that woman, the guy (forget those 2 name) and Mao create a new Syndicate

Yin and Shizume died

That red (and possibly sadist) magician still live

Hei and Hazuki disappeared (possibly together?)

and a new gate is opened.

So all in all, this look like a Hazuki x Hei end for me. That and Yin died, which made this season full of crap. If they not gonna made a season 3 soon there ought to be some angry mob show up at their doorstep.
Dec 26, 2009 6:19 AM

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Okay, I'm actually glad they got rid of Sou now (never liked her...) incase of a third season. Which I sincerly hope will be airing next year, around November like the sequal.
I had hoped to see where Hei went off to, of course all in vain, they just kept showing the twin dolls and the freaking floating car with passengers (none of them protagonists).

Season three will probably be about killing the female Yin version vs the male Yin (Ying & Yang, anyone?). Which happends to be super evil, with a liking of killing people. Everyone blaims the female version and Yin & Hei ends up being chased, killing of american soldiers and whatnot.
Dec 26, 2009 6:40 AM

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Epic ending.Without a doubt the best episode of season 2(maybe the best of darker than black).For me,without the unanswered questions it would have been a boring season.10/10 from me
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Dec 26, 2009 6:41 AM
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So Suou died or lived? Is she a lost soul with memories or in another world?
I want Suou back because it seemed sad how she said she felt in the other place where she was with the mom and dad, that someone was missing in her life.
Yin alive or not?
Hei going to do something or just walk on aimlessly?
I really didn't get ep. 12.
I hope there's a Season 3.
Dec 26, 2009 6:56 AM

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I really wanted to give this season a 10, but the ending was.. WTF. I barely understood all the things. First Hei is with Yin, and after 2 seconds Yin is alone in a coffin.

Omg I did not expect a ending like that in DtB. The ending was brilliant! I fuckin loved it... and hated it.
But I didn't understand what happend with
Dec 26, 2009 7:06 AM

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Sooo.... S3 where? Hopefully they'll make a season where shit actually makes perfect sense.
Dec 26, 2009 7:30 AM

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huznme said:
I really wanted to give this season a 10, but the ending was.. WTF. I barely understood all the things. First Hei is with Yin, and after 2 seconds Yin is alone in a coffin.

Omg I did not expect a ending like that in DtB. The ending was brilliant! I fuckin loved it... and hated it.
But I didn't understand what happend with


That's not Yin in the coffin at the end. That's some Yin look-a-like which is most likely a clone.

Hei did NOT die and he got his powers back (as his star started to shine again). In the end he's seen carrying Yin and then most likely disappeared from the face of earth. Misaki believes he's still alive in the epilogue, WE CAN SURELY BELIEVE!
Dec 26, 2009 7:34 AM
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Strange ending :S
A more depressing ending for suou would have been better i think.
My english is not very good, so i didnt understand some parts.
First: Why is shion izanagi? how do they know that shion is izanagi? the same goes with yin.
so hei killed yin before she could meet shion, so nothing happened?
and shion copied the whole earth? with the people? °_o
Dec 26, 2009 7:35 AM

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The ending isn't wtf. It got wrapped up, not too nicely but it got wrapped up.

1. Shion copied the entire earth.
2. All the dead souls got sent to the other planet to be reborn.
3. Hei got his powers back to kill Yin.
4. He stopped the calamity from befalling the planet.
5. The world continues to exist with more contractors and more gates appearing.
6. Misaki joined the "new syndicate" watching and guiding things from the shadows.
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??? Male Yin?
Confused...

Oh that's Madam Orielle's flying car ....
So BONES cover their mistake or it's their plan from start? =o

Congrats to Suou and July although it's copy earth? =x

Need OVA and S3 now when Yin is there!
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Despite what many say, I actually enjoyed this season far more than season 1, though the crappy ending followed the trend of all the other anime this season

No, I would not like a 3rd season. We have seen how anime that were good became bad with endless seasons. Most recent examples would be Shugo Chara and Nogizaka, which tore whatever success they had in earlier seasons with pointless sequels.
Dec 26, 2009 7:47 AM

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Glad that at least some1 understood the ending.

Dec 26, 2009 7:48 AM

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Wasabi said:
Sooo.... S3 where? Hopefully they'll make a season where shit actually makes perfect sense.
Exactly.....perfect sense. Those are the key words.

In spoiler my anime list for now.
Dec 26, 2009 7:54 AM
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I gave up trying to understand Darker Than Black a long time ago.
I don't have as many headaches these days thanks to it.
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As a biased person I should be saying .. what the fuck ?! at least it was interesting.
But you know what?
FUCK THIS.
If there is no 3rd or 4th seasons \ OVA that will tie ALL the loose ends (including the ones that I have from 2007) ... bah.
%!@#$!@$#

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francismeunier said:
Let me guess and speculate at the ED parts:Observations are continuing on the moon thing=>
Kobayashi/Kirihara continue to fight and join forces=>
USA army obvious involvement with heavier armies=>
That guys commits suicide before CIA gets any information from him=>
Shizume is dead possibly with Hazuki but maybe not=>
Best example that the twins are dolls even if it was said before=>
Yin clone or whatever the other Yin is that takes the sould of John Smith and soldiers around him. I suspect anyone going around that place is a goner=>
Those cars that hover can actually fly like in Back To The Future 2=>
Now....what are your thoughts ladies and gentlemans?


If i'm not wrong, that's not the moon. Shion cloned an entirely new earth and paid his life as the remuneration. And yin, using her powers somehow brought all the souls onto the new earth, and the machine madame oriel has implanted all the memories of everyone onto their clones on the new earth.

And I think Hei probably killed Yin, or at least I thought he did but Yin somehow survived by taking the souls of those cia guys? Unless of course that short haired person isn't Yin.

Overall I think most loose ends were tied up though it takes awhile to understand, the only actual unanswered question is probably is that short hair person at the end Yin and did she die.
Dec 26, 2009 8:07 AM

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I cried bucket loads at the end :( I feel sorry for Suou
Dec 26, 2009 8:11 AM
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Hmmm, I'm not too sure about Hazuki...I mean that's an awfully big blood stain on the wall.(Splat?) lol

Anyway, I understood the whole alternate reality for Suou, but one thing is getting to me.
That was WAY too easy. I mean, Hei didn't even need to do anything. First episode, he should've just walked up to those people, said "lemme kill Yin" and got it over with in 5 minutes.

I did enjoy more darker than black of course. One good thing came from this season. Hei with no powers owning all over contractors. And Amber's voice gives it bonus points. 7 or 8/10 from me.

Almost forgot to mention that I still have no clue how contractors are even made. Born that way? Wish? Stars falling? How did this even start? Was that the whole Izanami thing.? I must've been asleep this season.*Demands bonus episode where Amber explains everything.*(My fanboy is showing XP)
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Wow, that is just they actually twist everything in the last episode and it actually make a lot of sense that the first season did.

So there wasn't Izanagi to begin with? That is just crazy. And actually the white Izanami is the clone of the black Izanami and at the same time is the real Izanagi. They made me go crazy here.

I am not really sure about the transferring yet, but I will be back for that.


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Dec 26, 2009 8:18 AM
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OK! I am dazed and confused pretty much as everyone else. A lot of questions left without answers.

Since the beginning of the second season I was hoping that they are going to fill the gaps in the storyline, explaining how we got here. Unfortunately my hopes, which kept me going through those monotonous first couple of episodes, were dashed in the end. I believe writers aspired to come up with a plot that will go deeper than the first season and touch on some existential issues, and that is something admirable about the series. Nevertheless it seems to me that they could not really execute it aptly, failing to connect the lines in the end. Anyhow, I still hope that following material will fill up the gaps.

Personally I will give the series a 7 rating, because I still think it was a poor sequel to the season 1.
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OMG this series is just like MGS series. Which is why I like it so much.
Dec 26, 2009 8:21 AM
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huznme said:

Omg I did not expect a ending like that in DtB. The ending was brilliant! I fuckin loved it... and hated it.
But I didn't understand what happend with


About Yin after season 1: as stated by the chief of the Japanese agency, Izanami awoke after season 1. They almost killed her when Yin suddenly overtook Izanami and put herself to sleep. Because they feared her powers, the Japanese tried to seal her away in/near the Gate, but Hei's team hired by the CIA (or Madame Oreille, i don't remember -.-') distrupted the transportation, awakening Izanami.

My take on the ending is that Shion died because of his contract with Izanami, which involved Izanami taking the souls/memories of Suou and July and transferring them to the "copy planet" to their "copy bodies" Shion created with his contractor powers. It is also possible that Shion died because his renumeration for creating something so big was too severe. After that Shion(Izanagi) fused with Izanami, creating the destroyer of the world, bringer of apocalypse, Yion or whatever you call it, foretold in the Mikata documents by Amber.
It is a speculation on my part, but their contract may have involved the other contractors and ghosts Yin killed off. But i don't remember anything like that being said.
For the actual copy they used the supercomputer's data shown by Madame Oreille.
Suou was just an experiment to see how compatible Shion's copys and fake memories created by the ME device were. As we are shown, the compatibility required the meteor core as a catalyst. I still don't understand how can the souls on the alternate planet in the alternate bodies (oO) stay compatible, maybe Shion used another part of the Meteor, or it has something to do with Yin's death. Because Hei killing Yin is probably what triggered the awakening of the copy world.
As Madame Oreille stated, this alternate world is the proof that humans existed, while for Shion it's just his present for Suou (who always dreamt about a peaceful life with her family). So if the original is destroyed by Yion the fake world serves as a memorial.

Hei definitely survived, because we see "alternate" Suou watching BK-201. And the "alternate" planet is on the other side of the fake sky. He almost definitely got back his powers (that's what he killed Yin with in the episode).

The Americans overtook Tokyo to strengthen their position as the world's strongest nation. But they failed to secure Yion (John Smith and his team was wipe out). As a result the Japanese agency involved in the whole Gate/contractor mess became an underground organization aka. Syndicate 2.0. Kirihara, the chief and Mao are now part of this organization.

Genma sided with the CIA some time ago. He used the ME machine on Youko to get the location of Izanami. He killed Youko, and framed it on Hei. Hazuki killed him (damn them for not showing the fight, must have been awesome).
It is unknown if Hazuki joined the Syndicate after that or not.

Well this is just my 2 cents about the story, I might be wrong. It also clicks with what most of the others wrote be4 me.

Madam Oreille's clothes/weapon and the space cars were a turn-off for me, other than that i liked it. They left out a lot of cool battles, and the remaining ones are short too. I felt that if they took their time this could easily span for at least 14 eps but even 21-23 wouldn't be impossible. As it is it's really plot-heavy but lacking in action.
Oh and the OVA will be a PREquel not a sequel!
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One way or the other, Hei is a lolicon. And I wonder why, but Bones terribly screwed up my all-time favorite anime.I'm feeling pissed off. (._.)
Dec 26, 2009 8:45 AM
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H...huh...that was uh... I gotta think about whether I like the ending or not... Maaan the ending to the first season was way more satisfying and less confusing though. :|
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Big WTF ending.



And I wonder what happened to the fight of the two pervs o.o


They show the male perv in the end dead
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The season is great and I don't get your WTFs about it. Watch the subs.

The power of the awakened Yin is to pull out memories.

Shion created a second earth, and the deal he created with Yin was that he will be sent there as well. She didn't kill anyone, she rather sent them to a new world, without gates and a happy life. That was Shion's dream. Yin destroyed the meteor core so that Suou's memories can pass to the second earth.

The death of Yin was probably the trigger needed for life on the new world to start, and that's why Hei killed her. He wanted to do it himself (for a reason that will probably be shown in the prequel OVAs), and that's why he stopped Suou.

The ending fully open to a next season, and I wouldn't give more than two years till it comes.

10/10 for a great continuation of DTB



I don't know how you figured that all out, but it seems to make sense somehow...

I liked some parts of this episode like so much, but when it came to the credits everything was just becoming confusing. I'll give this series 9/10 because it was so entertaining throughout the whole thing, but as everyone has mentioned, season 1 was much better
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this was almost as confusin as nge .. and this episode was like the end of evangelion, ya.. still, great series. Worse than S1 ,but still , it was great too see Hei again .
i was for YinxHei but at the end i liked that scene where Suou was being hugged by Hei.
oh well. confusion #_#
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Well uhm is this suppose to be a happy ending?
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Malestel said:



You sir are a genius.
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