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ProphecyPriest said: And here it comes. Anime-only saltiness, please GTFO back to your own dark and edgy show that is /Zero. By now it should be clear that this is not the show you're looking for. Zero>ufoUBW>FSN VN |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
CapsuleCore said: Large pic: Grail-kun how can I make more friends? |
ProphecyPriest said: And here it comes. Anime-only saltiness, please GTFO back to your own dark and edgy show that is /Zero. By now it should be clear that this is not the show you're looking for. But I had to tear up when they showed Emiya's past in Middle-East. Coupled with Emiya BGM, that sure is a cheap way to make some feels. My only problem is that this is another DEEN scene of Shirou deflecting TWO hugeass swords before the stab, instead of copying Archer's swordspam. Man, that real wasted potential of showing competent Shirou. And usual Shinji scene is as I imagined, maybe even more gruesome than the VN. Archer projection was really weak because he lacked mana and resolve, so it's understandable |
CookingPriest said: True enough,this episode's fight didnt give the impression of Shirou desperately fighting against himself with all he got with the little energy he has by adding those acrobatic spins,jumps and stuff(Seriously wtf?)...Thats a bummer but not something to decrease the enjoyment i got from the episode...Insertanamehere said: I'd say it's good choreography, actually, as compared to some of their sfx fests a la Saber vs Berserker and about as good as Lancer vs Archer round 1, too bad it's in an inappropriate place. choreography that is a plothole and goes against what should be going on is NOT a good choreography. Pls explain shirou's crazy parkour fighting skills? 5/5 |
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| It was an alright episode. Answer was fine, Gil scene could have been more visually engaging than talking heads. MightyM16 said: My only complaint about the episode is Shirou giving just a flesh wound to Archer and not really stabing him through the freaking chest They needed to convey visually that Archer didn't lose the fight physically - he could still move, but it was moot because he realized Shirou was right. |
| idk, Bottom line here is that if you're not liking the anime original contents, you're probably going to be disappointed to the end. The epilogue will probably be 90% cut and paste, but expect flashbacks and annoying Gilgamesh back story sequences leading up to the final showdown. I`m only hoping that the team for HF is going to be different and not include our resident favorite director of Nasu adaptations //Sarcasm |
Caliburn220 said: An average anime watcher with an average IQ should be able to understand that much tho...But adding that simple line from VN wouldnt hurt....(Saber:"Why Archer?")They needed to convey visually that Archer didn't lose the fight physically - he could still move, but it was moot because he realized Shirou was right. |
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Caliburn220 said: It was an alright episode. Answer was fine, Gil scene could have been more visually engaging than talking heads. MightyM16 said: My only complaint about the episode is Shirou giving just a flesh wound to Archer and not really stabing him through the freaking chest They needed to convey visually that Archer didn't lose the fight physically - he could still move, but it was moot because he realized Shirou was right. Good point, this makes sense |
Guilek said: CapsuleCore said: Large pic: Grail-kun how can I make more friends? |
| So apparently, parkour is now a plothole. |
| They screwed the end of the fight pretty bad. The scene felt kinda unnatural and disjointed, and even emiya song wasn't as hype as I thought it would be (not the actual song, but the use of it... cutting the beginning? You do not cut the Emiya!). + they interpreted Shirou's whole mindset and ideal kinda wrong... Oh... And I lol'd pretty hard at the very end of the fight. Looked like Archer didn't even care about the stab and everything went all casual suddenly. Yet again, just like the last week (even if it hurts my soul), I must say that DEEN did somehow better job; at least it was dramatic... (side note: I was really looking forward at Archer using other weapons in close combat, like Caladbolg and the other sword I forgot the name of, and the final showdown having both Archer and Shirou using those cool curved swords instead of Kanshou and Bakuya. Oh well. :/) I didn't mind that much at the beginning of the show, but now, when my fav scenes get adapted, it's pretty clear that Miura just isn't the best director ever.The show overall doesn't flow for some reason. Say what you want, but Zero was much better adaptation. And KnK is like whole new level (except for the 6th movie heh). |
| Zero sequel > Shirou's character and conflict of ideals confirmed. Though honestly Answer was as good as it could have been all things considered. They handled the descriptive mental aspect quite well, it just all felt so fragmented without a solid Shirou POV that so much potential impact was lost. They went for Archer impact more than anything with the Kerry glimpse, but it still had its relevance to Shirou's answer. Same with Saber's flashback. You understand what its presence does for the thematic direction, but because her exposition was so fragmented and unsubstantial it felt like more of a half hearted Zero nod than a relevance to the clash of ideals. This is the adaptation's biggest problem I feel. It's like the staff is split between maintaining the Zero feel and going all in on Shirou's character and the crux of the story's themes. I won't say that made Answer completely fall short because I think they still managed to represent the heart of it, but the ending certainly might fall short because of it. |
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LoneWizard said: Caliburn220 said: An average anime watcher with an average IQ should be able to understand that much tho...But adding that simple line from VN wouldnt hurt....(Saber:"Why Archer?")They needed to convey visually that Archer didn't lose the fight physically - he could still move, but it was moot because he realized Shirou was right.  Display of hesitation by Archer, the flashback, and his remarks about being too sentimental should make it obvious that Archer ended up deciding to lose. |
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TrueKirei said: ProphecyPriest said: And here it comes. Anime-only saltiness, please GTFO back to your own dark and edgy show that is /Zero. By now it should be clear that this is not the show you're looking for. Zero>ufoUBW>FSN VN Soon to be HF Movie>Zero>ufoUBW>FSN VN. After all Kirei is most epic in HF. |
| Big Order (TV):great anime or greatest anime? |
| May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? |
LoneWizard said: Caliburn220 said: An average anime watcher with an average IQ should be able to understand that much tho...But adding that simple line from VN wouldnt hurt....(Saber:"Why Archer?")They needed to convey visually that Archer didn't lose the fight physically - he could still move, but it was moot because he realized Shirou was right. zero need to add a line since the anime made it incredibly clear. maybe focus more on what is happening on the screen and don't just read subs. archer's expression + saber's expression are all you need. a picture is worth a thousand words |
WhipItGood said: May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? He has his uses.  |
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WhipItGood said: May i hear your reasons?May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? |
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WhipItGood said: May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? I like Shinji in that he effectively fulfills his role. If you mean like him as a person, no. But uh, your taste is your own taste, I guess? |
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KamiCity said: Vanisher said: No it doesn't matter if there's an explanation if that explanation is clearly just an excuse to get that outcome, instead of that explanation being the logical reason that leads to that outcome to happen in the first place. Everytime shirou (or rin) is in danger one is always expecting someone or something to save them or the enemy to leave, that's all there's to it. It can matter though, so I was wrong with how I said it, for example Archer not killing shirou and trying to make Shirou regret his ideal is fine because that's what he's trying to do. But they do have logical reasons and explanations. Ilya and Berserker - Ilya's personality, Archers unexpected noble phantasm, and the backstory between her kiritusugu and shirou. Caster and Kuzuki - Shirou's unexpected projection, Saber got back up + not knowing sabers noble phantasm. After we figured out Caster's noble phantasm would you say rule breaker could win against any Noble phantasm at all? Caster and Kuzuki pt - Archer letting them go/ because he was playing caster from the start. Gil after Berserker/Ilya - The heart would spoil, His interest in rin got peaked, Archer views everyone as bugs and deemed them not important. Personality plays a key factor, arrogance has lost wars throughout history. Here again, Gils personality is a fitting reason, he could care less about shirou. Archer was his target, and he wouldn't kill Saber that easily, he's taunting her and Shirou. Once again I don't like the reasons =/= plot armor Plot armor is defined, and the definition states it must be "unexplained" If you ignore that then you are trying to make up your own definition to words. Illya just saw Archer taking a life off Berserker or at the very least unleashing a lot of destruction. She did the smart thing to retreat because she doesn't know what Archer is holding back. Having Saber and an Archer that just proved himself to fight Bersker is unnecessary risk. Caster and Kuzuki was stated in the anime that Saber underestimated Kuzuki. Once she got back up and shown in a striking position, it was clear that Kuzuki and Caster had to retreat because they overplayed their hand. Kuzuki can't surprise Saber any longer. What people miss is that right after Saber went easy on him, he blew off part of her neck, then she started to become very clumsy and weak. But once she regains composure he shouldn't fight her. Your explanations aren't wrong but I think the ones above are the primary reasons. A lot of people don't understand and need things to be told verbally. For example, some didn't even know that Kuzuki was strengthened by Caster even though it was stated in episode 10 and Kuzuki always had purple magic around his limbs. |
WhipItGood said: May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? He's very honest. |
SwordHand said: WhipItGood said: May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? He's very honest. ......... when he thinks he isn't in trouble or lying isn't the best option. |
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ANGRY2011 said: No,he is a generic tsundere...He cant even concede that he likes Shirou and acts like villain around him...SwordHand said: He's very honest. ......... when he thinks he isn't in trouble or lying isn't the best option. |
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| Pretty awesome episode. Stupid anime original stuff but whatever. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
LoneWizard said: WhipItGood said: May i hear your reasons?May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? I just do. He's pleasant, in a human way, he reacts very belieavably given his backstory and develops a very expectable selfish pettiness, that to be honest, I miss seeing in anime/manga characters. Besides, fate is filled with scumbags, people like too and they do far worse stuff than Shinji. Granted, they have far worse stuff done to them than him, but the stuff that happened to him was bad as well. He had bad stuff done to him and developed badly they had worse stuff done to them and developed worse. It's a little meh to see them get a free pass simple due to being cute. Shinji just feels very human. In a scumbagy way, but human. |
WhipItGood said: May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? Who can resist to this guy?  |
| If Sakura's getting those h scenes in the movie adaptations I need at least implied sex for Rin instead of dolphins, just ain't fair to #1 girl. |
| Gilgamesh is the main reason why this episode is a 9/10 for me. He has a most noble cause too. Another plus for showing Shinji in pain. Made me laugh hysterically. The fight seen is the reason why this episode wasn't perfect. While Archer vs. Shirou conclusion was fine, I just had much higher hopes for the fight. Also the EMIYA theme was way too short. |
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ANGRY2011 said: SwordHand said: He's very honest. ......... when he thinks he isn't in trouble or lying isn't the best option. Shinji has never lied. |
LoneWizard said: CookingPriest said: True enough,this episode's fight didnt give the impression of Shirou desperately fighting against himself with all he got with the little energy he has by adding those acrobatic spins,jumps and stuff(Seriously wtf?)...Thats a bummer but not something to decrease the enjoyment i got from the episode...choreography that is a plothole and goes against what should be going on is NOT a good choreography. Pls explain shirou's crazy parkour fighting skills? 5/5 He lacked powerful technique. Sure those were acrobatics but they didn't really look deadly. Meanwhile, Archer was solid on his foot. Shirou looks the most desperate toward the end when he's slashing at Archer and the "camera" slow mos on Shirou's face during Archer monologue. Shirou is shown to be frantically pushing himself. |
WhipItGood said: [/quote]You lost me there...LoneWizard said: May i hear your reasons? I just do. He's pleasant, in a human way, he reacts very belieavably given his backstory and develops a very expectable selfish pettiness, that to be honest, I miss seeing in anime/manga characters. Besides, fate is filled with scumbags, people like [spoiler]Illya Drake1000 said: I bet you also like worms. |
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TrueKirei said: ProphecyPriest said: And here it comes. Anime-only saltiness, please GTFO back to your own dark and edgy show that is /Zero. By now it should be clear that this is not the show you're looking for. Zero>ufoUBW>FSN VN F/sn VN > ufoUBW > F/Z I honestly thought you can do better than this, you useless stepbrother. Well no matter, /Apocrypha would trump all in the end. |
Kolios said: A guy thats almost lost consciousness and desperately attacks cant do those spins,or wouldnt do,because those movements are not efficient....LoneWizard said: True enough,this episode's fight didnt give the impression of Shirou desperately fighting against himself with all he got with the little energy he has by adding those acrobatic spins,jumps and stuff(Seriously wtf?)...Thats a bummer but not something to decrease the enjoyment i got from the episode... 5/5 He lacked powerful technique. Sure those were acrobatics but they didn't really look deadly. Meanwhile, Archer was solid on his foot. Shirou looks the most desperate toward the end when he's slashing at Archer and the "camera" slow mos on Shirou's face during Archer monologue. Shirou is shown to be frantically pushing himself. |
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Drake1000 said: WhipItGood said: May I check something really quick? Am I the only one who likes Shinji? Not in an ironic way, not in a "his appearances give comedy to the show way", now in an I like to see him suffer way. Genuinely liking him? I bet you also like worms. Worms a shit, worst girl. |
ProphecyPriest said: TrueKirei said: Zero>ufoUBW>FSN VN F/sn VN > ufoUBW > F/Z I honestly thought you can do better than this, you useless stepbrother. Well no matter, /Apocrypha would trump all in the end. UBW>HF>Fate>UfoUBW>F/Z LN>F/Z ufo Tsukihime>Fate>KnK |
| ewww shinji looked disgusting at the end |
| I was getting bored of Shirou and Archer's battle. The episode really picked up when Gilgamesh showed up. I'm guessing he will have a more active role in the few episodes left. |
ProphecyPriest said: TrueKirei said: Zero>ufoUBW>FSN VN F/sn VN > ufoUBW > F/Z I honestly thought you can do better than this, you useless stepbrother. Well no matter, /Apocrypha would trump all in the end. I really want to read /Apocrypha but I keep getting turned off by the horrible choice for the black assassin servant |
SwordHand said: ANGRY2011 said: ......... when he thinks he isn't in trouble or lying isn't the best option. Shinji has never lied. Hm....... Hmmmmmm...................................................... Ah, you got me. Well. Kind of? I feel he definitely hides his true intent, though he doesn't lie. Fair enough. |
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LoneWizard said: Kolios said: A guy thats almost lost consciousness and desperately attacks cant do those spins,or wouldnt do,because those movements are not efficient....He lacked powerful technique. Sure those were acrobatics but they didn't really look deadly. Meanwhile, Archer was solid on his foot. Shirou looks the most desperate toward the end when he's slashing at Archer and the "camera" slow mos on Shirou's face during Archer monologue. Shirou is shown to be frantically pushing himself. Acrobats aren't as technical as you make them seem to be. They're absolutely dumb and opens the attacker to obvious counter blows. That's why Shirou was desperate to resort to such dumb move that lacks fighting technique. It's out of desperation. |
devinder said: I was getting bored of Shirou and Archer's battle. The episode really picked up when Gilgamesh showed up. I'm guessing he will have a more active role in the few episodes left. yea i was getting sick of the repetitious grandstanding dialogue too |
MightyM16 said: ProphecyPriest said: F/sn VN > ufoUBW > F/Z I honestly thought you can do better than this, you useless stepbrother. Well no matter, /Apocrypha would trump all in the end. I really want to read /Apocrypha but I keep getting turned off by the horrible choice for the black assassin servant You really should if they're all translated later. |
Kolios said: ProphecyPriest said: F/sn VN > ufoUBW > F/Z I honestly thought you can do better than this, you useless stepbrother. Well no matter, /Apocrypha would trump all in the end. UBW>HF>Fate>UfoUBW>F/Z LN>F/Z ufo Tsukihime>Fate>KnK Your opinions is soo wrong XD. IMO: KNK=fate=tsuki F/SN (VN)>F/Z F/Z>HF=UBW>fate KNK 5=7>3>1>4>2>>>>>>6 I have no idea on the tsuki routes. This is the correct opinion XD |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
Kolios said: wut?So shirou is in fact an acrobat?Big revealation...LoneWizard said: A guy thats almost lost consciousness and desperately attacks cant do those spins,or wouldnt do,because those movements are not efficient.... Acrobats aren't as technical as you make them seem to be. They're absolutely dumb and opens the attacker to obvious counter blows. That's why Shirou was desperate to resort to such dumb move that lacks fighting technique. It's out of desperation. |
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| The fight ended anticlimatically (should have gone more into Shirou's thoughts rather than Saber's), but at least Shinji got what he deserved, lol. Normally, I'd feel bad, but knowing what kind of bastard he is, I started laughing at that scene. |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| I can't stop laughing. |
Fenix29 said: I can't stop laughing. That face he made should've been censored, it's so unsightly. |
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