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Feb 7, 2015 4:46 PM

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guys who read kuroko manga

pls tell me where to continue from episode 5 with manga im too excited and i wanna know what happens next aahhhhhhh >.<
Feb 7, 2015 4:51 PM

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katsuragi33 said:
guys who read kuroko manga

pls tell me where to continue from episode 5 with manga im too excited and i wanna know what happens next aahhhhhhh >.<
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Feb 7, 2015 4:59 PM

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ibearclaw said:
katsuragi33 said:
guys who read kuroko manga

pls tell me where to continue from episode 5 with manga im too excited and i wanna know what happens next aahhhhhhh >.<
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ohh okay......i just checked it.....damm those small writing..

ima ffk dis im not bothered to read on hehe

anime ftw ;o
Feb 7, 2015 5:16 PM
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People saying stupid shit like "how could he make Akashi lower"
Feb 7, 2015 5:39 PM

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The OST is on point.
Feb 7, 2015 5:44 PM

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Anyone know what's the name of the OST when Akashi use his emperor eye?
Feb 7, 2015 5:55 PM

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Akashi does remind me of Gaara, I really got that vibe for some reason.
Good and interesting episode. The flashbacks were nice, and needed. They help us understand the team a bit more and their struggles; I liked them, there were just enough to make you feel something for the team, and they weren't overdone. Good job

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katsuragi33 said:
guys who read kuroko manga

pls tell me where to continue from episode 5 with manga im too excited and i wanna know what happens next aahhhhhhh >.<


dont bother.manga was weak at the end..especially the final match imo.
Feb 7, 2015 6:00 PM

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I find it funny how they have to explain something as simple what a "triple-threat" and an "ankle breaker" is to a bunch of players at a high school level of basketball..

Also lol at that Jason Williams elbow pass reference.
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The Emperor Eye just takes the predictive powers of elite sportsmen to another level just like how Hawk Eye takes court vision to another level.

I read this book called Bounce and it describes the equivalent of Emperor Eye in detail over an entire chapter. Very good summary of the chapter is written here: http://www.blueprinttennis.com/featured/limitless/


For table tennis champion Desmond Douglas, he was able to react to cues in his opponent’s movements to anticipate where they would hit the ball next. He was therefore able to start moving in the right direction much earlier, rather than waiting to see where the ball was going before reacting. In this way, experts find shortcuts that allow them to bypass the normal restrictions imposed by basic physical abilities. [2][3][4] Wow! This is probably why the very best are seemingly able to perform super-human feats.


Excerpts from the book itself:

When Roger Federer returns a fast serve he is not demonstrating faster reactions, but quicker anticipation. He is able to make sharper and more accurate inferences about where the ball is going to go via the movement patterns of his opponent, so that he is in position almost before the ball has been hit. First class cricketers have figured out whether to play off the front or back foot 100 miliseconds before the ball has been bowled. Wayne Gretzky was said to have an incredible ability to skate “ahead of the puck”, turning up at the right spot before the puck got there.

It is regular practice that has given them this advantage, not their genes. Federer's advantage has been gathered from experience: more precisely, it has been gained from a painstaking process of encoding the meaning of subtle movement drawn from 10,000 hours of practice and competition. He is able to see patterns in his opponent's movements in the same way that chess players are able to discern the patterns in the arrangement of pieces on a chessboard: the recognition of familiar scenarios and chunking of perceptual information into meaningful wholes and patterns. An expert returner’s ability to return is not limited by his or her raw reaction time, but instead relies on his or her deep tennis knowledge, which is gained from extensive experience and allows them to read the server’s action.


This video (the segment starts from 15:10) also attempts to provide insights on how Ronaldo reads the subtle movements (EE) of his opponents when dribbling and executing the soccer equivalent of the ankle break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSL-gPMPVXI#t=1056

And the elbow pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4CkbTsQDA
Feb 7, 2015 6:07 PM

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Kerozinn said:
katsuragi33 said:
guys who read kuroko manga

pls tell me where to continue from episode 5 with manga im too excited and i wanna know what happens next aahhhhhhh >.<


dont bother.manga was weak at the end..especially the final match imo.


lol okay im too lazy to read anywayyy

anime is the best ;o
Feb 7, 2015 6:14 PM

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Torrible said:
The Emperor Eye just takes the predictive powers of elite sportsmen to another level just like how Hawk Eye takes court vision to another level.

I read this book called Bounce and it describes the equivalent of Emperor Eye in detail over an entire chapter. Very good summary of the chapter is written here: http://www.blueprinttennis.com/featured/limitless/


For table tennis champion Desmond Douglas, he was able to react to cues in his opponent’s movements to anticipate where they would hit the ball next. He was therefore able to start moving in the right direction much earlier, rather than waiting to see where the ball was going before reacting. In this way, experts find shortcuts that allow them to bypass the normal restrictions imposed by basic physical abilities. [2][3][4] Wow! This is probably why the very best are seemingly able to perform super-human feats.


Excerpts from the book itself:

When Roger Federer returns a fast serve he is not demonstrating faster reactions, but quicker anticipation. He is able to make sharper and more accurate inferences about where the ball is going to go via the movement patterns of his opponent, so that he is in position almost before the ball has been hit. First class cricketers have figured out whether to play off the front or back foot 100 miliseconds before the ball has been bowled. Wayne Gretzky was said to have an incredible ability to skate “ahead of the puck”, turning up at the right spot before the puck got there.

It is regular practice that has given them this advantage, not their genes. Federer's advantage has been gathered from experience: more precisely, it has been gained from a painstaking process of encoding the meaning of subtle movement drawn from 10,000 hours of practice and competition. He is able to see patterns in his opponent's movements in the same way that chess players are able to discern the patterns in the arrangement of pieces on a chessboard: the recognition of familiar scenarios and chunking of perceptual information into meaningful wholes and patterns. An expert returner’s ability to return is not limited by his or her raw reaction time, but instead relies on his or her deep tennis knowledge, which is gained from extensive experience and allows them to read the server’s action.


This video (the segment starts from 15:10) also attempts to provide insights on how Ronaldo reads the subtle movements (EE) of his opponents when dribbling and executing the soccer equivalent of the ankle break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSL-gPMPVXI#t=1056

And the elbow pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4CkbTsQDA



Yeah, I've noticed this for a while in my time spent playing sports so yeahh, anticipation and reading my opponents patterns is what I always try to do when I play competitively
Feb 7, 2015 6:26 PM

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Wow, Akashi did the Jason Williams' elbow pass.
http://youtu.be/Q8b0XbtpFsA?t=55s

Somehow, I don't feel as engaged in this matchup. I'm more than ready for something to surprise me.
Feb 7, 2015 6:45 PM

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Damn Akashi is a scary dude, making everyone kneel before him damn
So emperor eye a combination of floor general,lockdown defender, ankle breaker, and dimer maybe even more? *__*
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Seriously can't wait for next week.
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Seriously can't wait for next week.


lol thats what we say every week ;o
Feb 7, 2015 7:10 PM

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For me this was the best episode of the series, yep series, until now.

Though the Elbow pass is totally a foul!
If he was playing an unofficial game or street basket, but in this case is totally dribble foul. I searched the manga and something like that doesn't exist at all, so stupid idea by the staff at Production I.G(Can't they make a little research? More when they are adding stuff to the source material!).
Though, the author already added a lot of fouls that were treated like nothing happened, like Aomine multiples dribble fouls and Kuroko punching pass(that is also a dribble foul).

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I don't know how NBA rules are in the case of the Elbow pass, I would assume that is also foul too, but by FIBA rules is totally a foul. In Japan in school they play by FIBA rules so that was totally a foul.
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beauty emperor eye's
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bigivelfhq said:
For me this was the best episode of the series, yep series, until now.

Though the Elbow pass is totally a foul!
If he was playing an unofficial game or street basket, but in this case is totally dribble foul. I searched the manga and something like that doesn't exist at all, so stupid idea by the staff at Production I.G(Can't they make a little research? More when they are adding stuff to the source material!).
Though, the author already added a lot of fouls that were treated like nothing happened, like Aomine multiples dribble fouls and Kuroko punching pass(that is also a dribble foul).

Note:
I don't know how NBA rules are in the case of the Elbow pass, I would assume that is also foul too, but by FIBA rules is totally a foul. In Japan in school they play by FIBA rules so that was totally a foul.


It's not a foul in the NBA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4CkbTsQDA
And Kuroko did not punch the ball, he palmed it, just like Ginobili here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYcnMVwV3-4
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Torrible said:
bigivelfhq said:
For me this was the best episode of the series, yep series, until now.

Though the Elbow pass is totally a foul!
If he was playing an unofficial game or street basket, but in this case is totally dribble foul. I searched the manga and something like that doesn't exist at all, so stupid idea by the staff at Production I.G(Can't they make a little research? More when they are adding stuff to the source material!).
Though, the author already added a lot of fouls that were treated like nothing happened, like Aomine multiples dribble fouls and Kuroko punching pass(that is also a dribble foul).

Note:
I don't know how NBA rules are in the case of the Elbow pass, I would assume that is also foul too, but by FIBA rules is totally a foul. In Japan in school they play by FIBA rules so that was totally a foul.


It's not a foul in the NBA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4CkbTsQDA
And Kuroko did not punch the ball, he palmed it, just like Ginobili here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYcnMVwV3-4


You understand that elbow pass of Jason Williams was in the all-stars game right? An unofficial game with the only objective of seeing the best players of the country doing incredible stuff!
Though I don't know if NBA allows it or not. Do you know of any instance that such a thing was done in an official game?
I would assume that in the NBA rules is said that the ball can only be manipulated by hands, and the only other instances where you can touch with any other part of the body is when blocking the ball. In FIBA there is!
If something like that isn't in the rules than a player could dribble the ball with his elbows or worse pass the ball with his head or butt or something like that.

Also Ginobili grabbed the ball with one hand and threw it! You can see it by the backward move he does when he gets the ball. Kuroko doesn't do such a thing.
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bigivelfhq said:
Torrible said:


It's not a foul in the NBA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4CkbTsQDA
And Kuroko did not punch the ball, he palmed it, just like Ginobili here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYcnMVwV3-4


You understand that elbow pass of Jason Williams was in the all-stars game right? An unofficial game with the only objective of seeing the best players of the country doing incredible stuff!
Though I don't know if NBA allows it or not. Do you know of any instance that such a thing was done in an official game?
I would assume that in the NBA rules is said that the ball can only be manipulated by hands, and the only other instances where you can touch with any other part of the body is when blocking the ball. In FIBA there is!
If something like that isn't in the rules than a player could dribble the ball with his elbows or worse pass the ball with his head or butt or something like that.

Also Ginobili grabbed the ball with one hand and throws it! You can see it by the backward move he does when he gets the ball. Kuroko doesn't do such a thing.


Ok this is more similar to what Kuroko does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHsDc_fUO4E
And this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2-AmZTAN_w

And look at this shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCIAgDLRDgY

I don't think the rules for an all-star game will be different from an official game. Sure, the officials may occasionally close an eye when it comes to traveling (which they kind of already do in an official game), but somehow I don't think blatant fouls would be allowed. Considering how NBA fans on Youtube are obsessed with calling out traveling fouls, you'd think there would be at least a few mentions in this video if it was indeed a foul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Vq-DO86RE


While I'm at it, might as well share this crazy 3 point formless shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UMEfbxZvY

Now if Aomine would learn to make this shot consistently...
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Akashi is way too OP lmfao
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Torrible said:
bigivelfhq said:


You understand that elbow pass of Jason Williams was in the all-stars game right? An unofficial game with the only objective of seeing the best players of the country doing incredible stuff!
Though I don't know if NBA allows it or not. Do you know of any instance that such a thing was done in an official game?
I would assume that in the NBA rules is said that the ball can only be manipulated by hands, and the only other instances where you can touch with any other part of the body is when blocking the ball. In FIBA there is!
If something like that isn't in the rules than a player could dribble the ball with his elbows or worse pass the ball with his head or butt or something like that.

Also Ginobili grabbed the ball with one hand and throws it! You can see it by the backward move he does when he gets the ball. Kuroko doesn't do such a thing.


Ok this is more similar to what Kuroko does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHsDc_fUO4E
And this too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2-AmZTAN_w

And look at this shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCIAgDLRDgY

I don't think the rules for an all-star game will be different from an official game. Sure, the officials may occasionally close an eye when it comes to traveling (which they kind of already do in an official game), but somehow I don't think blatant fouls would be allowed. Considering how NBA fans on Youtube are obsessed with calling out traveling fouls, you'd think there would be at least a few mentions in this video if it was indeed a foul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-Vq-DO86RE


While I'm at it, might as well share this crazy 3 point formless shot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UMEfbxZvY

Now if Aomine would learn to make this shot consistently...


You're really clutching at straws. All of those passes aren't like the one Kuroko did, at all.
Because the release from the hand is fast, doesn't mean it is a punch. Kuroko does a punch, just not with his total fist closed, but it doesn't matters, because it is a punch nonetheless.
Also punching the ball like Kuroko doesn't has the effect shown in the show and it would be better to grab the ball and make a full throw(just like Ginobili is shown doing in that video). It would go with a lot more power than a punch.

Traveling has nothing to do with making a fantastic pass, that officially is not allowed. What about traveling makes the game more exciting to see?

I wouldn't call that 3-point formless, because he does everything like normal, but is being constrained, and so is fault, by the defender.
There are a ton of players with really bad/strange shooting forms, when you said a 3-point formless shot, I was expecting something more exquisite.
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Akashi is way too OP lmfao


yeah.........all of rakuzan,is op tbh :O

how is seirin gonna win against them and kise ;o
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Awesome episode.
Akashi unleashing his Emperor Eye on Shutoku.
He is a force to be reckoned with.
Everyone falling down to his ankle breaking.
That behind the ball to elbow pass was crazy and awesome.
Shutoku not giving up until the very end.
Time for Midorima and Takao to unleash their trump card next week.
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bigivelfhq said:

You're really clutching at straws. All of those passes aren't like the one Kuroko did, at all.
Because the release from the hand is fast, doesn't mean it is a punch. Kuroko does a punch, just not with his total fist closed, but it doesn't matters, because it is a punch nonetheless.
Also punching the ball like Kuroko doesn't has the effect shown in the show and it would be better to grab the ball and make a full throw(just like Ginobili is shown doing in that video). It would go with a lot more power than a punch.

Traveling has nothing to do with making a fantastic pass, that officially is not allowed. What about traveling makes the game more exciting to see?

I wouldn't call that 3-point formless, because he does everything like normal, but is being constrained, and so is fault, by the defender.
There are a ton of players with really bad/strange shooting forms, when you said a 3-point formless shot, I was expecting something more exquisite.


Aren't like Kuroko's pass at all? Must be strange how the Kuroko comment in this thread got 31 upvotes: http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1u2ir7/lebron_james_tap_pass_vs_nuggets/
Also, love how the guy who talked about how tapping the ball would be a foul got 2 downvotes, for being a buzzkill I suppose.

You may be right, technically, but few officials will call Kuroko's pass a foul. The only difference between the ignite pass and Lebron's tap pass against the Nuggets was that Lebron did it with his fingers The officials must have incredible vision if they were able to instantaneously spot whether the ball was in contact with the fingers when the pass was made.

That was totally a formless shot dude. Kise did it from behind the backboard in season 1.

I don't know if the elbow pass was a foul, but you are the first person I've ever seen mention it, so congrats?
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That Jason Williams reference was dope. Akashi OP af.
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lol all those long posts up there are spammmmmm

well this is spam too >.>

yayyyy knb C:
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Easy people easy !!

Akashi is a beast !! That's not playing basketball you know.

Special move by Takao & Shintaro next week >_<
Feb 7, 2015 9:35 PM

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Am I watching basketball or Code Geass?

Looking forward to Takao and Midorima's comeback next week.

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They should do opposite of this what they want to do,
and opposite of what Akashi know what they will do.

And then they could be like 'I knew you will know what I want to do that I do opposite of what I wanted to do, but I know you will knew you will knew that I made it that why I made opposite opposite of what you knew I will do' xD

Eyeshield 21 reference? I think yes ;)
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The sound made is totally different though and is easily seen if you are close, and being an official you supposedly should be looking carefully what the player with the ball is doing(at least one of them). How in other way would they be able to catch traveling fouls.
Also he did it totally in front of everybody. All the guys in the game saw the pass, it seems the officials were the only ones that missed it. Makes me ask where in the hell were they looking at?
But more important than that is that he developed a pass, a special move, that was a foul!
I don't even know what you're defending. I'm not saying the pass is impossible to do, but that it is foul. Something that it totally is!
Or are you saying because some other player did it in another game and the officials didn't caught him, then the pass is OK? Because sorry to tell you it isn't!

And are you really defending something with reddit forum and comments in a youtube video? And how people in those places react? Really? This is what? the local majority support Truth. If here there are more people with me than I'm right?

I don't know what you call a formless shot, I played ton of years basketball, and I don't consider it a formless shot, because he totally made the standard movement with his arm. If he had space he would've totally have done all the movement, are you calling all forced shots, formless? OK. In reality I don't see what is the importance of it being formless or not, as I said in my other post, I was expecting something more exquisite.
I don't remember well Kise shot, I think is something totally different, but even if it isn't different, I hope you're not using what is said in Kuroko no Basuke as a reference of correctness.

Is this section of the forum(Kuroko no basket section), and Kuroko's places in internet in general, consisted of people that know much of basket(not saying that I know, I stopped playing and watching games sometime ago so I'm totally rusty) or people that care about it? For my experience what matters is if things look cool and not if they are allowed or well done or even possible in basket.
So what is so special about I'm being the only one here saying that it is a foul?

Also the elbow pass was only a small gripe I have, the episode was still great for me, the representation of the game and the excitement was more and better than any other game in the series.
In reality for me is a bigger problem that production I.G. added something wrong increasing the repertoire of problems in the series. The author, what is name? Fujimaki, just drew a last second excellent direct pass. They should just left it like that.
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I heard Akashi is op but holy shit. I wonder what their trump will be like.
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Kagami letting me down, how you going to get bullied by someone half your size multiple times like that, at least last time he had a weapon.
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@bigivelfhq

You make a good point about the sound. The reddit part was just me countering your claim about the passes not being like Kuroko's at all. I did concede that you may be right about the Ignite pass being technically a foul. However, I think when 30 people in an NBA forum made a connection between that tap pass and Kuroko, it shows that they are indeed similar in essence. My gripe with your comments is how you choose to focus on superficial differences rather than see the obvious similarities between the shots/passes. That 3 point circus shot was one handed and more like a layup/floater than a jump shot, kind of like one version of Aomine's formless shots (the one that's more like a floater): http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/kurokonobasuke/images/b/ba/Aomine_formless_shot_3.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/201?cb=20120308195641

Look at the shot again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UMEfbxZvY If he had leaned back a little more, it'd be exactly like Aomine.

The Kise formless shot was from episode 25 of season 1: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kurokonobasuke/images/9/92/Kise_scores.png/revision/latest?cb=20131117220412

The episode was great indeed and to be fair, production I.G. had gotten stuff wrong in the past when they made changes to the manga (though they are usually minor). A recent example would be how they explained the difference between Hayakawa's and Kagami's jumps (explosive power vs vertical) when in fact explosive power and vertical elevation are directly correlated.
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LeBron's tap pass is only similar to Kuroko's because when you look at his misdirection passes the concept is that you're only in possession of the ball for a millisecond. The most direct IRL comparison would be a host of examples you can find by searching "Manu Ginobili passes". The elbow pass is totally legal in the NBA and I've never heard of it being illegal in FIBA. Kuroko's plain old ignite pass would probably get called in most cases, while the ignite pass kai wouldn't because it's a completely open hand.
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akashi too strong.. and kind of scary...

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Seriously can't wait for next week.

lol i loved this scene.
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Why are people taking this anime so seriously in terms of real life basketball? Of course it's not anywhere close to being a realistic basketball anime. The setting itself where japanese are actually good at it at an elite level is a fantasy already. It's themed on basketball but doesn't follow physics/realism of the sport. The exaggeration of moves is what makes the anime fun. Although the emperor's eye is pretty hilarious op move.
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@bigivelfhq

You make a good point about the sound. The reddit part was just me countering your claim about the passes not being like Kuroko's at all. I did concede that you may be right about the Ignite pass being technically a foul. However, I think when 30 people in an NBA forum made a connection between that tap pass and Kuroko, it shows that they are indeed similar in essence. My gripe with your comments is how you choose to focus on superficial differences rather than see the obvious similarities between the shots/passes. That 3 point circus shot was one handed and more like a layup/floater than a jump shot, kind of like one version of Aomine's formless shots (the one that's more like a floater): http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/kurokonobasuke/images/b/ba/Aomine_formless_shot_3.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width/201?cb=20120308195641

Look at the shot again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1UMEfbxZvY If he had leaned back a little more, it'd be exactly like Aomine.

The Kise formless shot was from episode 25 of season 1: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/kurokonobasuke/images/9/92/Kise_scores.png/revision/latest?cb=20131117220412

The episode was great indeed and to be fair, production I.G. had gotten stuff wrong in the past when they made changes to the manga (though they are usually minor). A recent example would be how they explained the difference between Hayakawa's and Kagami's jumps (explosive power vs vertical) when in fact explosive power and vertical elevation are directly correlated.

In reality formless shts are just forced shot attempts with little to know form and sometimes they're the best option depending on circumstances like time on the clock, being fouled and looking for the quick ansd 1 ect.. No one in the NBA considers it an actual move to master/signature move or use it consistently like aomine.
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Akashi is OP. Wonder who is better? Akashi or Aomine.

Those broken ankle.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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Zapredon said:
Akashi is OP. Wonder who is beter. Akashi or Aomine.

Those broken ankle.

emperor's eye used on aomine would be fun to watch.
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katsuragi33 said:
ohh okayy

wow rakuzan is op as ffk

how is seirin gonna win :O
With plot :/
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Izanagi777 said:
katsuragi33 said:
ohh okayy

wow rakuzan is op as ffk

how is seirin gonna win :O
With plot :/

yep plot armor. even more op than rakuzan.
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koolvid said:
Izanagi777 said:
With plot :/

yep plot armor. even more op than rakuzan.
True, that's too much IMO.. But nobody can beat plot armor either way :/
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That elbow pass of akashi is so badass! also putting them on skates!
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Next week.. Akashi will say the lines that melted my heart. Ugh. Just seeing his face in the preview...!
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Good episode. Love the way they showed Rakuzan's dominance, and the anime original bits were nice, too. Loved the BGM and the flashbacks. Though at this rate, it looks like we're i for a Season 4 lol... next episode will be awesome!

ibearclaw said:
To those calling bullshit, if you want a realistic representation of basketball go elsewhere or just watch a real game. KnB takes every fundamental skill that exists in basketball and magnifies it, if that's not something you can enjoy then why bother watching this far?


Haters gonna hate. It's their only purpose for existence.

DefMos said:
I find it funny how they have to explain something as simple what a "triple-threat" and an "ankle breaker" is to a bunch of players at a high school level of basketball..

Also lol at that Jason Williams elbow pass reference.


LMAO is that the Shaqtin' MVP I see?

Torrible said:
The Emperor Eye just takes the predictive powers of elite sportsmen to another level just like how Hawk Eye takes court vision to another level.

I read this book called Bounce and it describes the equivalent of Emperor Eye in detail over an entire chapter. Very good summary of the chapter is written here: http://www.blueprinttennis.com/featured/limitless/


For table tennis champion Desmond Douglas, he was able to react to cues in his opponent’s movements to anticipate where they would hit the ball next. He was therefore able to start moving in the right direction much earlier, rather than waiting to see where the ball was going before reacting. In this way, experts find shortcuts that allow them to bypass the normal restrictions imposed by basic physical abilities. [2][3][4] Wow! This is probably why the very best are seemingly able to perform super-human feats.


Excerpts from the book itself:

When Roger Federer returns a fast serve he is not demonstrating faster reactions, but quicker anticipation. He is able to make sharper and more accurate inferences about where the ball is going to go via the movement patterns of his opponent, so that he is in position almost before the ball has been hit. First class cricketers have figured out whether to play off the front or back foot 100 miliseconds before the ball has been bowled. Wayne Gretzky was said to have an incredible ability to skate “ahead of the puck”, turning up at the right spot before the puck got there.

It is regular practice that has given them this advantage, not their genes. Federer's advantage has been gathered from experience: more precisely, it has been gained from a painstaking process of encoding the meaning of subtle movement drawn from 10,000 hours of practice and competition. He is able to see patterns in his opponent's movements in the same way that chess players are able to discern the patterns in the arrangement of pieces on a chessboard: the recognition of familiar scenarios and chunking of perceptual information into meaningful wholes and patterns. An expert returner’s ability to return is not limited by his or her raw reaction time, but instead relies on his or her deep tennis knowledge, which is gained from extensive experience and allows them to read the server’s action.


This video (the segment starts from 15:10) also attempts to provide insights on how Ronaldo reads the subtle movements (EE) of his opponents when dribbling and executing the soccer equivalent of the ankle break: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSL-gPMPVXI#t=1056

And the elbow pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4CkbTsQDA


Thank you for your trouble. I find it annoying that people who have never touched a basketball are complaining about the realism of a basketball ANIME... and it's the 3rd Season too, gtfo ur not wanted lol...

Izanagi777 said:
koolvid said:

yep plot armor. even more op than rakuzan.
True, that's too much IMO.. But nobody can beat plot armor either way :/


Yeah... no.
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ibearclaw said:
LeBron's tap pass is only similar to Kuroko's because when you look at his misdirection passes the concept is that you're only in possession of the ball for a millisecond. The most direct IRL comparison would be a host of examples you can find by searching "Manu Ginobili passes".


Yep, those passes would be closer with Kuroko's misdirection passes, but Torrible is talking of the ignition pass though.

ibearclaw said:

The elbow pass is totally legal in the NBA and I've never heard of it being illegal in FIBA.

There is no specific rule against elbow pass, but in FIBA the rules specify that you can only handle the ball with your hands. Anything else is foul. Only other way to touch the ball with other part of the body is when blocking the ball.

Looked for NBA rules, in the official site, and nothing is specified about that. So it seems like you can dribble and pass with any part of your body above your legs(legs are specified foul if intentionally). Strange!
In NBA you're not forced to use your hands.

The only way the elbow pass in Kuroko wouldn't be foul though would be if they were professional and were in the league that play by NBA rules(strangely Japan has 2 professional leagues, one that plays by FIBA rules and other by NBA).

ibearclaw said:

Kuroko's plain old ignite pass would probably get called in most cases, while the ignite pass kai wouldn't because it's a completely open hand.


It doesn't matter. Both NBA and FIBA say that is foul if you strike the ball with your fist, doesn't matter if is open or closed.
A little punch probably isn't caught in a game, but such a flamboyant punch not being caught is a little stupid.
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An open hand isn't a fist
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Good Episode. Cant wait for next week.
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