| With today's anime becoming more niche and homogeneous while focusing on Japanese otaku instead of the mainstream, do you think the anime industry should start catering more towards the international market? I see it like this; larger install base=more cash=more creativity and risk-taking. |
| Won't happen because Japan is too xenophobic to even acknowledge there is a world outside of Japan. |
mclovinballz said: Won't happen because Japan is too xenophobic to even acknowledge there is a world outside of Japan. This is a sad truth. |
| By focusing on Japanese Otaku it's also focusing on the weebs. It's a win win. |
| Yes but its not gonna happen. |
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| Nobody in Jap think about westerns, just in lolis. |
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dity said: catering for no reason is pointless. it's a waste of money, they should stick with what they got because they have a good thing going. I wouldn't exactly call the current state of the industry a "good thing". |
| They make the most money from otaku, so they'll stay glued to the whims of otaku. |
FGAU1912 said: kokkoderrisch said: With today's anime becoming more niche and homogeneous while focusing on Japanese otaku instead of the mainstream, do you think the anime industry should start catering more towards the international market? I see it like this; larger install base=more cash=more creativity and risk-taking. also wrong you only watch late night witch is not mainstream ast all even in Japan so watch prime time anime are you will see there is main stream anime that the west does not import Did you even read my post? |
Rinth said: They make the most money from otaku, so they'll stay glued to the whims of otaku. They make the most off of otaku because most of the shows are otaku-pandering. |
| no they shouldn't any kind of appealing to a wider audience is bad imo |
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| No. People may buy stuff outside of Japan but not to the same degree, otakus in Japan take it to another level and hated they may be, they keep the companies alive. Making a show that doesn't cater to them is like asking to get payed less. I've also heard some shows that did good in the west didn't do great in Japan. Trigun for example for a older title and probably shows like Highschool of the Dead, you know, zombies tits and ass. |
dity said: kokkoderrisch said: seems to be doing a'ight to be. some of us don't want to be watching every show tackle a social issue every episode, every show, every year *cough*cartoonnetwork*cough*I wouldn't exactly call the current state of the industry a "good thing". I'm talking about the unhealthy practices in the industry. |
FGAU1912 said: yes i did and its not japans fault that 1 there is no prime time anime in the us 2 the anime amimed at mainstrem is D O A in the us cuase of this I don't get your point. What are you babbling about? |
FGAU1912 said: its the us industry fault no Japan's fault WTF???? |
| Stop watching otaku pandering late night schlock, koko. Jeez |
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FGAU1912 said: When in doubt, blame America.kokkoderrisch said: I'm talking about the unhealthy practices in the industry. its the us industry fault no Japan's fault |
mclovinballz said: FGAU1912 said: When in doubt, blame America.its the us industry fault no Japan's fault You should blame Canada |
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dity said: kokkoderrisch said: he's saying that more popular all-ages anime that airs at prime time (say, 6am-9am and 6pm-8pm) isn't brought to the u.s.a. and if it is it is dead on arrival thanks to the fact that weaboos like us are only interested in late-night anime (anime aimed at mid-teens and young adults).I don't get your point. What are you babbling about? But that doesn't really have anything to do with my point... |
mclovinballz said: Won't happen because Japan is too xenophobic to even acknowledge there is a world outside of Japan. I'd say it's more like they really don't care about the rest of the world, but close enough I guess. It's certainly very true. In any case, until a lot more people from English speaking countries buy stuff from over there, they aren't going to consider us any time soon. We got Space Dandy, but that's already old news, and it ain't likely to happen again any time soon. |
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FGAU1912 said: kokkoderrisch said: WTF???? thay have no balls ie the get a roime time anime like One piece for example chop ot up and put it late night when its proper demo are not there to watch it or they put it on a Niche Channel wre prime time anime in Japan is fact on non niche channels ie the one of the big 6 NETWORK tv Channels that everyone get nation wide You have completely misunderstood me and I'm way too tired to start explaining it to you. |
| Anime isn't even much of a niche anymore, because of shit like SAO and AoT. If the industry actually started producing good stuff that doesn't pander to everyone's dick then they wouldn't make as much money and the community wouldn't be so atrociously big and mind-numbingly stupid. Don't prioritize quantity, but quality, it's just as simple as that. |
FGAU1912 said: So what you're saying basically is, that the US is dumb for not investing money into something that won't turn a profit?kokkoderrisch said: WTF???? thay have no balls ie the get a roime time anime like One piece for example chop ot up and put it late night when its proper demo are not there to watch it or they put it on a Niche Channel wre prime time anime in Japan is fact on non niche channels ie the one of the big 6 NETWORK tv Channels that everyone get nation wide |
Reciprocal said: Anime isn't even much of a niche anymore, because of shit like SAO and AoT. If the industry actually started producing good stuff that doesn't pander to everyone's dick then they wouldn't make as much money and the community wouldn't be so atrociously big and mind-numbingly stupid. Don't prioritize quantity, but quality, it's just as simple as that. Are You dumb? He's talking about Japanese otaku stuff. Aot, full metal alchemist, even cow boy bebob doesn't pander to Japanese otaku stuff these anime are more towards western Audience. I don't even understand why you would include those two anime as a example when they're more western like, and not Japanese culture like. No game no life would've been a better example. Hint he's talking about anime with panty shots, big breast, oni chan those type of Otaku stuff. |
keragammingSep 6, 2014 4:11 PM
FGAU1912 said: kokkoderrisch said: But that doesn't really have anything to do with my point... how can they go mainstream if they ownly lincses in away were near is proper form late night otaku pander shows Japan does have anime that is mainstream its just the west butches is when briugth over Shin chan for exmaple Japan should start creating anime with a global audience in mind, not some neckbearded otakus. That's my point. Not license primetime anime that's only popular in Japan. |
keragamming said: HehReciprocal said: Anime isn't even much of a niche anymore, because of shit like SAO and AoT. If the industry actually started producing good stuff that doesn't pander to everyone's dick then they wouldn't make as much money and the community wouldn't be so atrociously big and mind-numbingly stupid. Don't prioritize quantity, but quality, it's just as simple as that. Are You dumb? He's talking about Japanese otaku stuff. Aot, full metal alchemist, even cow boy bebob doesn't pander to Japanese otaku stuff these anime are more towards western people. I don't even understand why you would include those two anime as a example when they're more western like, and not Japanese culture like. No game no life would've been a better example. |
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FGAU1912 said: There's a difference between taking a business risk on a product that might sell well, and being dumb enough to risk it on low quality products. Most anime is the latter.mclovinballz said: So what you're saying basically is, that the US is dumb for not investing money into something that won't turn a profit? is they had balls then maybe risk somthing like say Nintendo did when they brougth the famicom to the us not know weather it would make a profit or not |
| Japan should start creating anime about how they lost in the WW2. |
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Praland said: That it's underratedJapan should start creating anime about how they lost in the WW2. |
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Praland said: Japan should start creating anime about how they lost in the WW2. Dat sick burn doe |
Praland said: Didn't they do one about the Hiroshima bombing while trying to make Japan the victim, even though they are committed a shit ton of war crimes?Japan should start creating anime about how they lost in the WW2. |
FGAU1912 said: there not anime focused on otaku alot of anime is not otaku driven that is what you dont see that Manga is an different issue altogether and the main reason that manga cannot be seen as mature in a tradioal sesne is the west [ ie the lack of Seinen or Josei tiles that get taken over i think the us industry is confused 1 one hand they put on most of there stuff on late night 2 they want manga/anime to appel to older people exaple alot of seinen in Japan it read by people over 25 - 30 range an that is not touched You're telling me that most of these AREN'T aimed at otakus? http://anichart.net/summer |
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