| I don't get the hate for dubs, especially since both Japanese ans English are recorded after the animation is finished. The only difference is when the script is written. Some dubs are bad, some subs are bad, some anime are bad, and some of everything is bad. |
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Ketsubutsu31 said: But the length of the sentences are fit for Japanese and generally the words and or pauses too as the script for the Japanese has to be made before they start animating. And that's not usually why people dislike dubs. It's the quality of the voice acting, the dialouge, how it loses the original references and or culture, etc.I don't get the hate for dubs, especially since both Japanese ans English are recorded after the animation is finished. The only difference is when the script is written. Some dubs are bad, some subs are bad, some anime are bad, and some of everything is bad. |
IntroverTurtleJul 26, 2014 4:18 PM
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IntroverTurtle said: I would say in the grand scheme of things, all dubs being aggregated, Japanese dubs are on average better, but it's still rather variable, especially nowadays since dubs no longer suck complete ass like they used to. Also Japanese voice actors are waaaaay to over-rated a lot of the time. As opposed to English VAs, who tend to under-act, I find Japanese VAs often over-act, sometimes hilariously so, but often this over-acting is defended as actually being really good for some reason.It's the quality of the voice acting, the dialouge, how it loses the original references and or culture, etc. Awkwardness in the dialogue due to timing differences in the words can only be overcome if you re-write the script to flow naturally within the time allotted for each line. Sometimes they do, sometimes they sort of do, and sometimes they just translate whatever the Japanese script is and jam it in. There's nothing to be done about the latter other than getting some people with actual writing chops on board to re-write the script in an appropriate manner. Of course being a purist I know that changing the script would offend you but I guess that just shows nothing a dub ever does would please you. And cultural content...well if you want that then yeah I guess I can't say go dub, unless the show doesn't have such content. Luckily I don't give a shit about that. |
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| It's so much easier to find subs and so easy to avoid dubs. Dubs are for people that actually like them. Don't like them? Then don't watch them. |
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| I guess its easier find subtitles animes than dubbed, so whats the matter? |
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| Honestly I don't care about dubs, I personally rarely watch anime dubbed. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be dubbed. As long as people can enjoy the show I don't really care how they watch it. |
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Red_Tuesday said: I find it really hard to avoid dubs. The only tolerable dubs I've ever come across were those of the Haruhi Suzumiya series and movie, every other dubbed anime has ranged from intolerable to infuriating. Worst example is Kokoro Connect, which has such shit English voice actors that it makes my teeth itch and fingernails shiver. Why are anime dubbed at all, if they can't do a good job? Nah you just a weeaboo mate. There arent that many bad dubs really. Ive been able to enjoy most of them so far. Granted they wherent for romcoms, its true that Ive seen the worst dubs being made for romcoms and romance anime. But for action anime dubs are pretty damn fine, hell often I like them more than subs. Japanese are good for softer voices, aka romcoms, honestly action anime are better off with english VA since they have more powerful voices. |
TheGrandSage23 said: Lol no the One Piece dub is good and the DB series having a good dub is practically almost considered a fact by everyone... And who the hell cares if the episodes aren't all dub? There's 50 episodes dubbed.. Ugh some of the replies here are really crappy like yours? sry but the dub of OP just sounds stupid. not because of the quality of the dub but because it doesn't really fit. should I have added that it was an opinion? when we are at opinions. sry that I don't care enough about dubs to know what other people think about certain dubs(like DtB dubs). and in case you didn't get what I meant with senseless. If I have to watch another 50 episodes without dubs it doesn't make a difference to me if I watch the first half with dubs or not. that's why it was senseless to me to even continue watching further than the first episode with dubs. |
| Dubs hard to avoid? It seems like dub haters are actually looking for them. Even if the title of a video clearly says ENGLISH DUB you still see people hating on the dub for no other reason than "it's english, so it sucks" |
JD2411 said: it makes more sense than japanese and at least the english speakers know how to pronounce a european namethegergz said: yea because it makes perfect sense for europeans to speak american englishDubs actually have the advantage in some settings. Buccano takes place in america, hellsing ultimate in europe, Monster also in europe. Romance dubs can turn our pretty bad though |
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JD2411 said: yes it does. if you go to germany which are you more likely to hear japanese or english? also that second point is irrelevant when talking about the shows abovemattbenz99 said: no it doesn't make any more sense. and at least the japanese speakers know how to pronounce a japanese nameit makes more sense than japanese and at least the english speakers know how to pronounce a european name |
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JD2411 said: mattbenz99 said: no it doesn't make any more sense. and at least the japanese speakers know how to pronounce a japanese nameit makes more sense than japanese and at least the english speakers know how to pronounce a european name Why are you changing the topic? Are you afraid to lose the argument? |
| I like most dubs, but the worst one I've come across is Shounen Onmyouji. Subs are also pretty good. |
Broeksnoek said: For the most part I do agree. But there are dubs that match the quality of the original. There are even dubs that exceed the quality of the original, but these are extremely rare - Baccano! and Ghost Stories are good examples of the latter. The Baccano dub isn't very good, though. Most of the characters were so cheesy or generic sounding and some were downright annoying. The only ones who sounded any good in that version were the voice actors for Isaac & Miria (they were always great, and funny!), as well as a few of the big gorilla-like thugs (which, aren't very complex roles, but they did a good job). To be honest, though... I haven't seen the Japanese version, so I can't speak to it's quality either. Now, if you want to talk about English dubs that surpass their Japanese counterparts, let's talk about some Cowboy Bebop. |
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vigorousjammer said: Broeksnoek said: For the most part I do agree. But there are dubs that match the quality of the original. There are even dubs that exceed the quality of the original, but these are extremely rare - Baccano! and Ghost Stories are good examples of the latter. The Baccano dub isn't very good, though. Most of the characters were so cheesy or generic sounding and some were downright annoying. The only ones who sounded any good in that version were the voice actors for Isaac & Miria (they were always great, and funny!), as well as a few of the big gorilla-like thugs (which, aren't very complex roles, but they did a good job). To be honest, though... I haven't seen the Japanese version, so I can't speak to it's quality either. Now, if you want to talk about English dubs that surpass their Japanese counterparts, let's talk about some Cowboy Bebop. Or full metal alchemist? What I've seen of the bebop dub is great, but since I haven't seen it yet, the only dub I've seen so far that I think 100% surpassed the original is Fma. |
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| i thought the fate/zero dub was pretty good |
| I find It incredibly hard to understand how you can "not avoid" dubs. usually, its the opposite. personally, I strongly prefer dubs (I do, however watch subs on a regular basis) and to be completely honest I get annoyed when people are always talking about how bad dubs are to subs. im not going to go into why on this thread, there are so many dub vs sub threads out there already. pretty much every anime gets a sub, but only a select group get a dub. how it is possible to "not avoid" them is beyond me. is it really so hard as to google "anime X eng sub" ?? |
| This thread is stupid. I feel like op accidently torrented a dub version of a show got angry and made this thread because of it. It is not hard to avoid dubs if you don't enjoy then and if you are to lazy to avoid them that is your fault. |
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