Attack on Titan
Available on Manga Store
New
Will it go down as a Classic After Anime Ends?(With Additional Explanations)
Yes a Classic
78.7%
537
Nope
21.3%
145
682 votes
Apr 23, 2021 2:29 PM
#71
georgemehh1 said: imbAF said: it s not even close to be the best lmaoIf you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now Fortunately tastes are diffrent :) |
Apr 23, 2021 4:14 PM
#72
LustKamisama said: imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now “Story, character development” oh lord the fanboys preaching again comparing to the cringe eren even naruto looks like the messiah. By the standard of “oh it looks pretty” anything from ufotable knock AoT out the park. I mean, you have an Edward profile pic bruh, Nina had more development that him. + I wasn't referring to that godly guy only Assuming you never taken English class in high school or even gotten there yet to understand character development. I wouldn’t be surprised not seeing the blatant character assassination of eren, Armin, Reiner, Ymir, Historia, or maybe even hallu-chan but thing showed up for like two seconds so I wouldn’t count him Not really. Assuming that you read AOT with fansubs, you probably never read one of Isayama's interviews (in one of the volumes) where he said exactly the following : " I was surprised that people started to like eren. Eren exists for the story. He is a slave of it". On the creators own words. The characters that you mentioned were fine and dandy as long as you liked the plot, but the moment that your fan fiction did not become reality suddenly Isayama doesn't know how to write, he wanted to wrap it up and the characters were assassinated. Ofc i will not even bother to ask you as to why for example Reiner's character was assassinated. But as for Historia, probably your ship didn't become a reality. Thing is though, Historia was never that important Nah, never bother with the interview, did read both of fan sub and official cause I couldn’t believe how atrocious it was, turn out just as bad just less funny. MC went from avenging his mom to killing his mom because the author told him to now that’s peak character development. Guess it’s my fault for expecting a story with more depth coming from the author writing the first three season of AoT. Don’t really care who get down with eren but what I do care is for implementing slavery and using characters as a symbolism to fight against it only to get thrown out or turned into a love kink. Hey, not that you should care but here in the US theres quite a history with slavery so the handling of such dark subject won’t sit nicely with people here. No one cares what USA likes or not, same way no one cares what people in x y or z country like. 2nd AOT has to do with determinism, which ofc i am against and i do not believe in it. But that has to do with philosophy and not AOT. Eren NEVER killed Carla, he simply prevented Bertholt from being eaten, because otherwise the events that unfolded would not unfold. It's very simple. And ofc if Carla would have survived, events would have unfolded in a different way, which means, without the founder, the world would have wiped the people of paradis. Maybe Carla had to die, in order to achieve what was achieved right now. I am not arguing you whether you are pro or against determinism. That is totally how everyone sees it. Isayama apparently believes in it. I don't but still enjoyed the ending (apart from some things) 8/10 and AOT is a 10/10. Very simple. First, any decent human will share the same opinion on slavery, it's just in the US it's a massive stain in history, that said nearly every first-world country practices it but I wouldn't know if their history class highlighted it. It is indisputable that AoT handles the slavery subplot horribly. Secondly, he is the cause of her death, directly or indirectly it both satisfied the means of killing, whether you like it or not. Eren is an emotionally charged character, he was written this way. So him not showing grief toward killing his mom undermines the whole scene from the first arc and butcher him before he's putting on a facade. Thirdly, what happened to Reiner's PTSD? why did the pacifier Armin thanks Eren for the genocide(from the official)? Reiner being Isayama's favorite went from a broken man into sniffing letters. The best defense people gave is expecting too much from this shounen as it was never able to deliver thematic depth like HxH, FMA and should put on par with MHA, or even Naruto. So because we had a moment of comic relief with reiner = PTDS gone? Yeah ok. What would happen if Dina would have eaten bertholt? Would have armin become the colossal? Would Grisha give his founder to eren? Exactly. Carla being eaten is one of the the events that brought us to where we currently are, chapter 139. About Slavery: Every country, not first world but EVERY country has practiced it. I think Isayama handles it very well. But who knows, maybe you can write something better then him and handle the racism part of it better then him. But i highly doubt it. How is kid and teen eren putting a facade when he cannot possibly know that indirectly he was the cause of her death? tf are you talking about? It's a loop with no end, kid/teen eren cannot possibly know that, until he kisses historias hand, which happens when he is 15 years old. |
Apr 23, 2021 4:40 PM
#73
Yes, Attack On Titan is one of the best written manga of all time. When you think about the greatest manga/anime of this generation Attack On Titan will always be in that conversation and will more than likely be brought up first. Regardless of how you felt about the end (me, personally, I fucking hated it, the last 20 chapters especially ruined everything I loved about it) you can't deny how great and how much of an impact it will have on the community. Attack On Titan will essentially become immortalized just how Dragon Ball Z is because of the influence and impact it will leave behind. |
Apr 23, 2021 5:38 PM
#74
imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: LustKamisama said: imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now “Story, character development” oh lord the fanboys preaching again comparing to the cringe eren even naruto looks like the messiah. By the standard of “oh it looks pretty” anything from ufotable knock AoT out the park. I mean, you have an Edward profile pic bruh, Nina had more development that him. + I wasn't referring to that godly guy only Assuming you never taken English class in high school or even gotten there yet to understand character development. I wouldn’t be surprised not seeing the blatant character assassination of eren, Armin, Reiner, Ymir, Historia, or maybe even hallu-chan but thing showed up for like two seconds so I wouldn’t count him Not really. Assuming that you read AOT with fansubs, you probably never read one of Isayama's interviews (in one of the volumes) where he said exactly the following : " I was surprised that people started to like eren. Eren exists for the story. He is a slave of it". On the creators own words. The characters that you mentioned were fine and dandy as long as you liked the plot, but the moment that your fan fiction did not become reality suddenly Isayama doesn't know how to write, he wanted to wrap it up and the characters were assassinated. Ofc i will not even bother to ask you as to why for example Reiner's character was assassinated. But as for Historia, probably your ship didn't become a reality. Thing is though, Historia was never that important Nah, never bother with the interview, did read both of fan sub and official cause I couldn’t believe how atrocious it was, turn out just as bad just less funny. MC went from avenging his mom to killing his mom because the author told him to now that’s peak character development. Guess it’s my fault for expecting a story with more depth coming from the author writing the first three season of AoT. Don’t really care who get down with eren but what I do care is for implementing slavery and using characters as a symbolism to fight against it only to get thrown out or turned into a love kink. Hey, not that you should care but here in the US theres quite a history with slavery so the handling of such dark subject won’t sit nicely with people here. No one cares what USA likes or not, same way no one cares what people in x y or z country like. 2nd AOT has to do with determinism, which ofc i am against and i do not believe in it. But that has to do with philosophy and not AOT. Eren NEVER killed Carla, he simply prevented Bertholt from being eaten, because otherwise the events that unfolded would not unfold. It's very simple. And ofc if Carla would have survived, events would have unfolded in a different way, which means, without the founder, the world would have wiped the people of paradis. Maybe Carla had to die, in order to achieve what was achieved right now. I am not arguing you whether you are pro or against determinism. That is totally how everyone sees it. Isayama apparently believes in it. I don't but still enjoyed the ending (apart from some things) 8/10 and AOT is a 10/10. Very simple. First, any decent human will share the same opinion on slavery, it's just in the US it's a massive stain in history, that said nearly every first-world country practices it but I wouldn't know if their history class highlighted it. It is indisputable that AoT handles the slavery subplot horribly. Secondly, he is the cause of her death, directly or indirectly it both satisfied the means of killing, whether you like it or not. Eren is an emotionally charged character, he was written this way. So him not showing grief toward killing his mom undermines the whole scene from the first arc and butcher him before he's putting on a facade. Thirdly, what happened to Reiner's PTSD? why did the pacifier Armin thanks Eren for the genocide(from the official)? Reiner being Isayama's favorite went from a broken man into sniffing letters. The best defense people gave is expecting too much from this shounen as it was never able to deliver thematic depth like HxH, FMA and should put on par with MHA, or even Naruto. So because we had a moment of comic relief with reiner = PTDS gone? Yeah ok. What would happen if Dina would have eaten bertholt? Would have armin become the colossal? Would Grisha give his founder to eren? Exactly. Carla being eaten is one of the the events that brought us to where we currently are, chapter 139. About Slavery: Every country, not first world but EVERY country has practiced it. I think Isayama handles it very well. But who knows, maybe you can write something better then him and handle the racism part of it better then him. But i highly doubt it. How is kid and teen eren putting a facade when he cannot possibly know that indirectly he was the cause of her death? tf are you talking about? It's a loop with no end, kid/teen eren cannot possibly know that, until he kisses historias hand, which happens when he is 15 years old. Honestly, it’s more convincing that you haven’t gotten through a single history class in high school if you don’t see how bad the slavery subplot was handled. Unless AoT character brains are wired differently you don’t have a slave fall in love with the master who is Mentally/Physically Abusive, kinda borderline sadistic too. Reiner arc ended with comic relief that’s the problem lol. War PTSD usually stems pretty deep, you don’t go from being suicidal into happy go lucky in two weeks. Stop letting your bias blinding your judgements. These are deeper themes for viewer to convey what the author stance might be on the topic. Using one chapter to turn all of that into a love gag is telling that the author never really cared in the first place. And for eren, reread previous post slowly if you can’t understand I’m talking about 139 where he doesn’t shred a tear for his mom, who he cared so deeply about, as he mentioned on killing her but then proceed to breakdown for mikasa. Also, courtesy toward anime-only please edit the spoiler tags. |
LustKamisamaApr 23, 2021 6:42 PM
Apr 23, 2021 8:21 PM
#75
Dankshin0bi said: It’s not about you you start a story, it’s about how it ENDS. Therefore no it is not a masterpiece and it will not go down in history, might be historically fucked for dropping the ball on the last 3 chapter Well all humans being life ENDS in Death.. so you mean their life had meaning?? Even if you won't rewatch Aot.. just the fact that you enjoy the journey makes it a very good Anime. Some great ppl in history died for nothing..thier final destination was meaningless.. but i dare you to say same thing about them like you are saying about AOT. |
Apr 23, 2021 10:46 PM
#76
No matter the ending is how much disappointing aot is a classic and it has a place in history of anime, "aot is not just another great anime ending,we are watching history being made" because after a long time it tied the whole anime community together and it made many people know about anime who hadn't even heard of anime. |
Apr 24, 2021 12:44 AM
#77
You can't be objective unless you have watched every single anime and there are still many things like the story which stay subjective as your opinion of these comes from your own perception or someones elses opinion, Ytbers for example. So you can't say : "Oh Aot is the best anime" since everybody can like something else or can have a different opinion and by saying that, your invalidating peoples opinions which should never be happening. Also, this toxicity in the aot fanbase is so annoying |
Apr 24, 2021 2:04 AM
#78
It will go down as one of the worst solely cause of the ending. Remember GOT? Everyone was saying it was the best show ever until the ending happened. |
Apr 24, 2021 2:40 AM
#79
Apr 24, 2021 12:25 PM
#80
Aot is NOW a modern classic ! |
Apr 24, 2021 2:08 PM
#81
Roger1 said: It will go down as one of the worst solely cause of the ending. Remember GOT? Everyone was saying it was the best show ever until the ending happened. Yes but the show was already starting to diverge from the source material in season 4, the writing was pretty mediocre season 5 and onward it just had good direction and visuals. Also GOT is still remembered as a great show just one with an awful ending. Basically while AOT had a meh final arc and a bad ending it was still fucking amazing for the first 120ish chapters. Meanwhile Game of thrones had a much larger decrease in quality for much more of the show. Also chapter 139 is rough but it doesn't ruin Eren's character nearly as much as got season 7 and 8 ruined the characters of Daenarys, Jon Snow, Tyrion, Varys, Littlefinger, and Jaime. Pretty much every great surviving character got ruined, they didn't just have a couple cringy lines they all either threw out their character development, finished their arcs horribly or acted massively out of character. |
Apr 25, 2021 4:30 AM
#82
Absolutely, for both the importance and the masterpiece that it is |
Apr 25, 2021 4:54 AM
#83
imbAF said: georgemehh1 said: imbAF said: georgemehh1 said: imbAF said: it s not even close to be the best lmaoIf you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now But it is though, we both know it, unless you can mention something better then it Steins gate requires 11 episode to be immensely interesting, season 2 is nowhere near close to the epicness of the first. HxH is on hiatus for eternity and its super good but the thematic doesn't come close to aot. Death Note is epic when you are a newcomer in the anime and also a bit edgy, but still a masterpiece . FMAB is ok. Nothing special about it, jack of all trades master of none. And Code geass was ok, until Lelouch goes and tells her that he can control her if he wants and his geass was activated, that was a cheap way to stretch the story. And ofc Lelouch's solution looks awesome when you are a 16 years old and believe in idealism. In reality the problems among people cannot simply vanish just because one guy died. Lelouch dies and the whole world is happy and sunshine? It doesn't work like that. How it works in reality is similar to what happened in AOT. And stop using lmao in the end, it doesn't validate your opinion more. What about AOT? first season could be mysterious, interesting, well animated or whatever, but not a masterpiece in storytelling or character development. Second season was slightly better (in my opinion), more slow paced and focused on story, but still the same tier. Third season? I dont really remember many details so lets skip for now Third season part two made a nice mixure of action, storytelling, character development and worldbuilding, and a good revelation arc. Still not as thrilling as S;G (and I agree with you about S;G 0 being very far away), not as mature as Monster, not as complex as Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, or as unique as Monogatari. So nope, not the best, even compared in overall quality. Also I liked Code Geass more that's maynly my opinion |
Apr 25, 2021 5:31 AM
#84
AdamWayne04 said: Dude Literally S3 part 1 and 2 were the best and filled with so many godly moments and regarded as best by community ....your take is one of the worst take I've ever seen....comparaing other animes strongest aspects to AOT's single aspect.....dude making you compare 4-5 anime's strongest elements to AOT's each and every elements one by one is what makes AOT one of the greatest....AOT have it all...not just depends on one elementimbAF said: georgemehh1 said: imbAF said: lmao no. steins gate, hxh, monster, death note, code geass, fullmetal alchemist are some examples of better animes and mangas lmaogeorgemehh1 said: imbAF said: it s not even close to be the best lmaoIf you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now But it is though, we both know it, unless you can mention something better then it Steins gate requires 11 episode to be immensely interesting, season 2 is nowhere near close to the epicness of the first. HxH is on hiatus for eternity and its super good but the thematic doesn't come close to aot. Death Note is epic when you are a newcomer in the anime and also a bit edgy, but still a masterpiece . FMAB is ok. Nothing special about it, jack of all trades master of none. And Code geass was ok, until Lelouch goes and tells her that he can control her if he wants and his geass was activated, that was a cheap way to stretch the story. And ofc Lelouch's solution looks awesome when you are a 16 years old and believe in idealism. In reality the problems among people cannot simply vanish just because one guy died. Lelouch dies and the whole world is happy and sunshine? It doesn't work like that. How it works in reality is similar to what happened in AOT. And stop using lmao in the end, it doesn't validate your opinion more. What about AOT? first season could be mysterious, interesting, well animated or whatever, but not a masterpiece in storytelling or character development. Second season was slightly better (in my opinion), more slow paced and focused on story, but still the same tier. Third season? I dont really remember many details so lets skip for now Third season part two made a nice mixure of action, storytelling, character development and worldbuilding, and a good revelation arc. Still not as thrilling as S;G (and I agree with you about S;G 0 being very far away), not as mature as Monster, not as complex as Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, or as unique as Monogatari. So nope, not the best, even compared in overall quality. Also I liked Code Geass more that's maynly my opinion |
Apr 25, 2021 7:30 AM
#85
georgemehh1 said: imbAF said: it s not even close to be the best lmaoIf you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now Why it has done almost 99% of what all audiences like ,action,mystery and plot twists |
Apr 25, 2021 7:42 AM
#86
Mack_Yeager said: Popularity doesn t make it better lol. Its not a bad show, it is good but no where near the bestgeorgemehh1 said: imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now Why it has done almost 99% of what all audiences like ,action,mystery and plot twists |
Apr 25, 2021 9:24 AM
#87
While I disliked how the manga ended, the sheer popularity of the franchise is bound to make it a classic, at least as big as Naruto, One Piece, or DBZ are. |
Apr 25, 2021 10:14 AM
#88
AOT is the only good work in anime rn imo. Everything else either appeals to children or has cheap fanservice. |
Apr 25, 2021 1:03 PM
#89
Even with the bad ending, I can't see it not being a classic, it's done enough to earn that title. |
thats what-she |
Apr 25, 2021 1:53 PM
#90
Depends on FS. You're getting ahead of yourself, haven't even got extra pages. Sure have been a lot of western clickbaiters trying to trash it for some clicks though. Never doubt a mortgage and an opportunity. Sigh. It's good right now, but even the last five minutes of a final season can matter. But at least it's not Avatar so we got that goin'. |
Apr 25, 2021 1:59 PM
#91
I think so. It had an unusual plot that was action-packed, emotional and suspenseful. The anime focused on many themes that are important in the real world like classism, racism and militarism. The vast majority of the characters had distinct personalities and traits that setup scenes that were sometimes tense and at other times humorous. I believe that Attack on Titan is a masterpiece and should be deserves to be recognized as a classic. |
Apr 25, 2021 2:17 PM
#92
samashi20 said: LustKamisama said: Lol it too early too make any conclusions without season 4 part 2 animated. Only time will tell if enough people liked the ending to be called classic. GoT matched or even better AoT in terms of popularity but nobody calling it a classic because how the ending turn the whole series into a meme. While I agree with you that the ending will have a major role in determining whether it'll be a classic or not, I still think that the 4 first seasons are popular enough for it to still be considered a classic. Many people got into anime by watching AoT, and even the ones who are not into anime, still watch AoT. Have you forgotten about GOT? It was just as popular for its seasons, and a huge cultural craze for several years, until the final season, and virtually no one talks about it now. In a few years it will have no new watchers. Compare that with the Sopranos, which ended years and years ago, but positive remembrances of it keeps bringing new people into the fandom, and it's maintained its place as a classic trailblazing show. Also the part about 'many people got into watching anime because of AOT' is rather dubious. Anime has enjoyed international popularity for something close to 30 years and has been featured heavily on Saturday morning cartoon programming for kids for decades in Western countries. You can say that about shows like DBZ, but it really doesn't apply to AOT. AOT was immensely popular, and a staple of Otaku diets, but not a genre-popularizer (the genre was already at the height of its popularity years before AOT came along), and it had years-long hiatuses where interest for it receded. |
AllystareApr 25, 2021 2:23 PM
Apr 25, 2021 2:20 PM
#93
Only time will tell. It's too early to call. I could see either way. |
Apr 25, 2021 2:30 PM
#94
Allystare said: samashi20 said: LustKamisama said: Lol it too early too make any conclusions without season 4 part 2 animated. Only time will tell if enough people liked the ending to be called classic. GoT matched or even better AoT in terms of popularity but nobody calling it a classic because how the ending turn the whole series into a meme. While I agree with you that the ending will have a major role in determining whether it'll be a classic or not, I still think that the 4 first seasons are popular enough for it to still be considered a classic. Many people got into anime by watching AoT, and even the ones who are not into anime, still watch AoT. Have you forgotten about GOT? It was just as popular for its seasons, and a huge cultural craze for several years, until the final season, and virtually no one talks about it now. In a few years it will have no new watchers. Compare that with the Sopranos, which ended years and years ago, but positive remembrances of it keeps bringing new people into the fandom, and it's maintained its place as a classic trailblazing show. Also the part about 'many people got into watching anime because of AOT' is rather dubious. Anime has enjoyed international popularity for something close to 30 years and has been featured heavily on Saturday morning cartoon programming for kids for decades in Western countries. You can say that about shows like DBZ, but it really doesn't apply to AOT. AOT was immensely popular, and a staple of Otaku diets, but not a genre-popularizer (the genre was already at the height of its popularity years before AOT came along), and it had years-long hiatuses where interest for it receded. 1. I'm not a manga reader, these are just my speculations about the reaction of the fandom to the ending and the series as a whole. I also have not seen GOT, so I have no idea whatsoever about the plot or the ending. 2. I think you got me completely wrong with "Many people got into anime because of AOT". I'm not saying AOT brought popularity to anime in general, nor to the genre. I'm just saying people who never cared about anime before started watching AOT and got slowly into anime. So I'm not sure why you're discussing the genre or the popularity of anime as a whole. |
I sometimes forget to finish my sentences. |
Apr 25, 2021 2:32 PM
#95
I really don't understand the 'only time will tell' responses. No show that's this polarizing among its hardcore manga fanbase is going to be popular among the casual anime audience when it comes to screen unless it has a radically different ending. Your hardcore fans are your proselytizers who spread your product through word of mouth. They are the keepers of the faith when your show goes into hiatus. They are the people that go into terminal never ending debates about the show and to a significant extent, police people's views on the show. If they like your manga ending, they amplify its popularity, and if they dislike it, they attenuate its popularity. A substantial number of manga fans are now badmouthing the series to their friends and telling them not to watch it, and even the critical hype for the show has died down. I don't see how this is an open question. The ending, which I won't go into, was considered to be a letdown for most people. Unless the anime audience is from some alternate bizarro universe, their reaction is likely to be similar. |
AllystareApr 25, 2021 2:51 PM
Apr 25, 2021 2:45 PM
#96
samashi20 said: Allystare said: samashi20 said: LustKamisama said: Lol it too early too make any conclusions without season 4 part 2 animated. Only time will tell if enough people liked the ending to be called classic. GoT matched or even better AoT in terms of popularity but nobody calling it a classic because how the ending turn the whole series into a meme. While I agree with you that the ending will have a major role in determining whether it'll be a classic or not, I still think that the 4 first seasons are popular enough for it to still be considered a classic. Many people got into anime by watching AoT, and even the ones who are not into anime, still watch AoT. Have you forgotten about GOT? It was just as popular for its seasons, and a huge cultural craze for several years, until the final season, and virtually no one talks about it now. In a few years it will have no new watchers. Compare that with the Sopranos, which ended years and years ago, but positive remembrances of it keeps bringing new people into the fandom, and it's maintained its place as a classic trailblazing show. Also the part about 'many people got into watching anime because of AOT' is rather dubious. Anime has enjoyed international popularity for something close to 30 years and has been featured heavily on Saturday morning cartoon programming for kids for decades in Western countries. You can say that about shows like DBZ, but it really doesn't apply to AOT. AOT was immensely popular, and a staple of Otaku diets, but not a genre-popularizer (the genre was already at the height of its popularity years before AOT came along), and it had years-long hiatuses where interest for it receded. 1. I'm not a manga reader, these are just my speculations about the reaction of the fandom to the ending and the series as a whole. I also have not seen GOT, so I have no idea whatsoever about the plot or the ending. 2. I think you got me completely wrong with "Many people got into anime because of AOT". I'm not saying AOT brought popularity to anime in general, nor to the genre. I'm just saying people who never cared about anime before started watching AOT and got slowly into anime. So I'm not sure why you're discussing the genre or the popularity of anime as a whole. I haven't seen GOT either. I am commentating on it specifically as a cultural phenomenon, and the fact that comparisons between AOT and GOT are common in both communities, because of their similarities as pop culture phenomena. The point being that GOT was also this massively popular, critically acclaimed show, (anyone who has been alive for the past few years can testify to this), arguably far more popular than AOT that dominated the culture for several years and seasons, until the final season happened, which was widely derided as disappointing, and suddenly interest for the show cratered. Just to reiterate, GOT was possibly the most popular show for the past several years. It was considered an all-time classic just a few years ago and now almost no one talks about it. The point of the GOT comparison is that popularity and 'classic status' and goodwill is fleeting and it can be destroyed or lost very easily. Fun fact: the most popular AOT meme subreddit is r/titanfolk (230K subs), and it's an explicit reference to r/freefolk which is the most popular GOT meme subreddit (1M subs). |
AllystareApr 25, 2021 2:53 PM
Apr 25, 2021 5:55 PM
#97
Most definitely a classic, most anime doesn't come close in terms of plot development and twists. Anime also has the greatest soundtrack of all time. |
Apr 25, 2021 6:32 PM
#99
No, because of the characters and the garbage writting |
“The only thing humans are equal in is death.” ― Johan Liebert |
Apr 25, 2021 8:08 PM
#100
Well yeah, any insanely popular anime will be a classic with enough time. |
Apr 25, 2021 10:08 PM
#101
Yes it will go down as classic classic in having a disaster ending that ruins the whole series just like game of thrones. Yep people won't forget this at all |
Apr 25, 2021 10:29 PM
#102
Ignore my other post but considering the ending is deemed as bad by the majority I don't think it'll go down as a classic now. |
Scordolo's Recent Reviews To your eternity Vanitas no Karte |
Apr 26, 2021 12:13 AM
#103
imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now its the best mainstream show and I say that because its pretty hard to say its objectively the best I think aot blends seinen and shonen aspects really well comaprable to death note so I would agree with this at the same time its not a perfect adaptation nothing that goes from Manga to Anime ever is Examples Jojo Bizarre Adventure suffers from long winded battles full of commentary which is much longer compared to the manga. FMAB skips portions of the manga and has a much lighter tone compared to the manga and original adaptation same goes Hunter x Hunter I will say that the biggest strength of aot is the hill like development which can suck you in and immerse you in although even though I say that you have to get past the first season which even though its gets better is painful with its characters every character is just....idk boring and emo it fits with the world but even fans agree and don't believe me the most popular character is a girl who gets unimaginably excited about eating food and is famous for eating a potato thats how boring I think the first season characters are luckily the show goes rapid progression and moments which make you get attached to the characters even if they are literally cardboard the mere fact that established characters could die at any moment gets the attached to them although I would also say that Isayama goes overboard with killing off characters at the early moments such that I just expected the characters to die so in a way the reverse happened until an arc later |
Apr 26, 2021 12:18 AM
#104
TheGuiltMan said: naaaaah....characters doesn't have to be funny to be funny to be interesting...and no characters are not bland they have there own personality and have deep character growth...and the world setting itself make the characters act like that... they're are just surviving....and this one of few few shows that doesn't have cliche anime character reaction nonsense...imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now its the best mainstream show and I say that because its pretty hard to say its objectively the best I think aot blends seinen and shonen aspects really well comaprable to death note so I would agree with this at the same time its not a perfect adaptation nothing that goes from Manga to Anime ever is Examples Jojo Bizarre Adventure suffers from long winded battles full of commentary which is much longer compared to the manga. FMAB skips portions of the manga and has a much lighter tone compared to the manga and original adaptation same goes Hunter x Hunter I will say that the biggest strength of aot is the hill like development which can suck you in and immerse you in although even though I say that you have to get past the first season which even though its gets better is painful with its characters every character is just....idk boring and emo it fits with the world but even fans agree and don't believe me the most popular character is a girl who gets unimaginably excited about eating food and is famous for eating a potato thats how boring I think the first season characters are luckily the show goes rapid progression and moments which make you get attached to the characters even if they are literally cardboard the mere fact that established characters could die at any moment gets the attached to them although I would also say that Isayama goes overboard with killing off characters at the early moments such that I just expected the characters to die so in a way the reverse happened until an arc later |
Apr 26, 2021 12:55 AM
#105
Abd778881121 said: TheGuiltMan said: naaaaah....characters doesn't have to be funny to be funny to be interesting...and no characters are not bland they have there own personality and have deep character growth...and the world setting itself make the characters act like that... they're are just surviving....and this one of few few shows that doesn't have cliche anime character reaction nonsense...imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now its the best mainstream show and I say that because its pretty hard to say its objectively the best I think aot blends seinen and shonen aspects really well comaprable to death note so I would agree with this at the same time its not a perfect adaptation nothing that goes from Manga to Anime ever is Examples Jojo Bizarre Adventure suffers from long winded battles full of commentary which is much longer compared to the manga. FMAB skips portions of the manga and has a much lighter tone compared to the manga and original adaptation same goes Hunter x Hunter I will say that the biggest strength of aot is the hill like development which can suck you in and immerse you in although even though I say that you have to get past the first season which even though its gets better is painful with its characters every character is just....idk boring and emo it fits with the world but even fans agree and don't believe me the most popular character is a girl who gets unimaginably excited about eating food and is famous for eating a potato thats how boring I think the first season characters are luckily the show goes rapid progression and moments which make you get attached to the characters even if they are literally cardboard the mere fact that established characters could die at any moment gets the attached to them although I would also say that Isayama goes overboard with killing off characters at the early moments such that I just expected the characters to die so in a way the reverse happened until an arc later I’m pretty sure I made exactly the point you made it’s not really the characters that have good depth it’s their progression through the narrative that makes them interesting as the story progresses seeing the wear and tear of the characters makes them more interesting from a narrative standpoint they are boring af in season 1 I can not say that about other shows that have a season of anime also interesting characters don’t just mean generic or cliche Akane Tsunemori from Psycho-Pass She starts off as your stereotypical naive, rookie cop. Psycho-Pass, she quickly matures into one of the best characters I've seen. She realizes the system is unfair and tries to change it from the inside. Psycho Pass She demonstrates incredible emotional resilience, able to recover quickly from stressful situations and make level-headed decisions. It's clear she still feels emotions as strong as anyone, but she is able to control them in order to get the job done. Her relationship with Kougami is complex to say the least. There is certainly an element of her that is attracted to the sexy bad boy that Kougami is. At the same time, she is not so lovestruck as to lose focus on her own goals and ideals. She respects him, but this doesn't mean she agrees with his way of doing things. She is also quite wary of what Kougami could become in his lust for revenge. Interesting doesn’t mean generic I expected more insight from the characters in season 1 it mostly focuses on eren and saves a lot of character moments for later seasons while adding subtle foreshadowing really a lot of the development is in the last half of the series |
Apr 26, 2021 1:17 AM
#106
It will goes down to hall of shame, like School Live! and Another. |
Signature removed. Check your inbox |
Apr 26, 2021 1:22 AM
#107
TheGuiltMan said: your point just doesn't make sense.... how can there be a good narrative with bland characters....just bcs u dont like them doesn't mean it's bad character writing....Abd778881121 said: TheGuiltMan said: imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now its the best mainstream show and I say that because its pretty hard to say its objectively the best I think aot blends seinen and shonen aspects really well comaprable to death note so I would agree with this at the same time its not a perfect adaptation nothing that goes from Manga to Anime ever is Examples Jojo Bizarre Adventure suffers from long winded battles full of commentary which is much longer compared to the manga. FMAB skips portions of the manga and has a much lighter tone compared to the manga and original adaptation same goes Hunter x Hunter I will say that the biggest strength of aot is the hill like development which can suck you in and immerse you in although even though I say that you have to get past the first season which even though its gets better is painful with its characters every character is just....idk boring and emo it fits with the world but even fans agree and don't believe me the most popular character is a girl who gets unimaginably excited about eating food and is famous for eating a potato thats how boring I think the first season characters are luckily the show goes rapid progression and moments which make you get attached to the characters even if they are literally cardboard the mere fact that established characters could die at any moment gets the attached to them although I would also say that Isayama goes overboard with killing off characters at the early moments such that I just expected the characters to die so in a way the reverse happened until an arc later I’m pretty sure I made exactly the point you made it’s not really the characters that have good depth it’s their progression through the narrative that makes them interesting as the story progresses seeing the wear and tear of the characters makes them more interesting from a narrative standpoint they are boring af in season 1 I can not say that about other shows that have a season of anime also interesting characters don’t just mean generic or cliche Akane Tsunemori from Psycho-Pass She starts off as your stereotypical naive, rookie cop. Psycho-Pass, she quickly matures into one of the best characters I've seen. She realizes the system is unfair and tries to change it from the inside. Psycho Pass She demonstrates incredible emotional resilience, able to recover quickly from stressful situations and make level-headed decisions. It's clear she still feels emotions as strong as anyone, but she is able to control them in order to get the job done. Her relationship with Kougami is complex to say the least. There is certainly an element of her that is attracted to the sexy bad boy that Kougami is. At the same time, she is not so lovestruck as to lose focus on her own goals and ideals. She respects him, but this doesn't mean she agrees with his way of doing things. She is also quite wary of what Kougami could become in his lust for revenge. Interesting doesn’t mean generic I expected more insight from the characters in season 1 it mostly focuses on eren and saves a lot of character moments for later seasons while adding subtle foreshadowing really a lot of the development is in the last half of the series |
Apr 26, 2021 1:23 AM
#108
aLotQuestion_ said: hahahahhaha poor yaegerist....this is what happens when you make 1000 of theories in your head....It will goes down to hall of shame, like School Live! and Another. |
Apr 26, 2021 2:09 AM
#109
Abd778881121 said: TheGuiltMan said: your point just doesn't make sense.... how can there be a good narrative with bland characters....just bcs u dont like them doesn't mean it's bad character writing....Abd778881121 said: TheGuiltMan said: naaaaah....characters doesn't have to be funny to be funny to be interesting...and no characters are not bland they have there own personality and have deep character growth...and the world setting itself make the characters act like that... they're are just surviving....and this one of few few shows that doesn't have cliche anime character reaction nonsense...imbAF said: If you take everything into consideration such as : story, character development, Animation, VA's. OST, quality of animation etc etc, even tho you might find animes who excel in on or in the other department, AOT is overall the best anime that has come from the industry until now its the best mainstream show and I say that because its pretty hard to say its objectively the best I think aot blends seinen and shonen aspects really well comaprable to death note so I would agree with this at the same time its not a perfect adaptation nothing that goes from Manga to Anime ever is Examples Jojo Bizarre Adventure suffers from long winded battles full of commentary which is much longer compared to the manga. FMAB skips portions of the manga and has a much lighter tone compared to the manga and original adaptation same goes Hunter x Hunter I will say that the biggest strength of aot is the hill like development which can suck you in and immerse you in although even though I say that you have to get past the first season which even though its gets better is painful with its characters every character is just....idk boring and emo it fits with the world but even fans agree and don't believe me the most popular character is a girl who gets unimaginably excited about eating food and is famous for eating a potato thats how boring I think the first season characters are luckily the show goes rapid progression and moments which make you get attached to the characters even if they are literally cardboard the mere fact that established characters could die at any moment gets the attached to them although I would also say that Isayama goes overboard with killing off characters at the early moments such that I just expected the characters to die so in a way the reverse happened until an arc later I’m pretty sure I made exactly the point you made it’s not really the characters that have good depth it’s their progression through the narrative that makes them interesting as the story progresses seeing the wear and tear of the characters makes them more interesting from a narrative standpoint they are boring af in season 1 I can not say that about other shows that have a season of anime also interesting characters don’t just mean generic or cliche Akane Tsunemori from Psycho-Pass She starts off as your stereotypical naive, rookie cop. Psycho-Pass, she quickly matures into one of the best characters I've seen. She realizes the system is unfair and tries to change it from the inside. Psycho Pass She demonstrates incredible emotional resilience, able to recover quickly from stressful situations and make level-headed decisions. It's clear she still feels emotions as strong as anyone, but she is able to control them in order to get the job done. Her relationship with Kougami is complex to say the least. There is certainly an element of her that is attracted to the sexy bad boy that Kougami is. At the same time, she is not so lovestruck as to lose focus on her own goals and ideals. She respects him, but this doesn't mean she agrees with his way of doing things. She is also quite wary of what Kougami could become in his lust for revenge. Interesting doesn’t mean generic I expected more insight from the characters in season 1 it mostly focuses on eren and saves a lot of character moments for later seasons while adding subtle foreshadowing really a lot of the development is in the last half of the series I never said I never liked them Jean is probably the best written character in the series for me personally and he was just a supporting character they just lacked any depth in season 1 this isn't much a problem as the seasons do go on they just lacked any meaningful characterization in season 1 i seriously forgot connie, ymir, and historia existed (except for the one time she brings horses and its meant to be a funny scene) I find the first season pretty boring in terms of interesting characters and dynamics and this is not a narrative error but the problem lies when an anime's first season takes 4 years for a season 2 I guarantee you that most of the pull of the audience for season 1 was in the mystery rather than any attachment for characters the main hook and intention of season 1 is to get the audience hooked on the main questions and mysteries presented rather than on any characters the only reason they develop into likeable great characters is because of the choices and hellish experiences they have to overcome very much like Kei Kurono from Gantz a teenager sucked into a sci-fi death game where unless he hunts down aliens and scores enough points to leave along with other human beings sucked into the game he will be trapped in as apart of the game until he dies in the game or scores enough points to buy his freedom this type of character writing is really good and both Gantz and Aot do really good jobs at it but they make for annoying characters especially when the anime is divided up into seasons making for long wait times of a season that may or may not come my problem is not with aot as a story but rather the medium it was adapted into in summation once again most of my dislike is slogging through a show like aot were the characters become interesting as you go along with them but man does it take a long time to get through I honestly had a more enjoyable time binging the manga than watching a bunch of 20 minute episodes especially the first season which has objectively the boring characters I think Aot will go down as a classic but as for the anime I think the manga was more preferred and better format me and a better medium for the story on an objective level I felt idk meh watching Aot first season sure it got better but my point is that the first season was mostly a poster for me to get into the manga aspects I enjoyed of the anime adaptation -the way they depicted the titans was more brutal especially the character deaths I think the ones that stuck out was Nanaba and Mikes death were probably the best at really striking you with fresh fear and horror -the Titans were really well adapted overall all of them had great levels of detail that made them creepy like each one having a different face type and personality some were aggressive and some were dopey and dumb -3D maneuver gear is the new coolest thing in anime its fucking amazing the way they zip around and leave steam and smoke and the steampunk like swords and wires that hook onto buildings and trees its fucking rad as hell -although I preferred mappa's artstyle adaptation of Isayama's manga art more I think it was necessary to have the Wit look for the beginning seasons and I was glad that they made strides to make the characters more fitting of the manga style as seasons went on with seasons 3 being the closest wit ever got to the og style but for the most part they did nail the shock expressions on the faces which is an aot signature of the series that Isayama is credited for -Tetsuro Araki's god like directing -the amazing sound effects in the show like the stomps of the titans booming in the back or the ripping of the flesh or the sounds of steam exiting from the maneuver gear or the sounds of the thin and sharp ultra hard steel one edge blades which have this nice and satisfying crisp cut to them -Erens voice actor done by Kaji Yuki <3 and the amazing scream of his -the military uniform which has been since dominated the anime cosplay seen as a staple i guaranteed if you go to any anime convention like Otakon your guaranteed to find a aot cosplayer its awesome - |
Apr 26, 2021 3:06 AM
#110
Absolutely, the ending wasn’t terrible but I thought it was boring and could have gotten a better ending, but yes it is a classic |
Apr 26, 2021 3:48 AM
#111
It’s already a classic. The ending of AOT is going to mark the end of an era, just like the end of naruto marked the end of an era. |
Apr 29, 2021 8:43 PM
#112
It's been a classic for a while now. Also, for those shitting on the ending just because you couldn't understand it properly and/or think it assassinated Eren's character then I can only feel sorry for you. Y'all went on r/titanfolk and r/yeagerbomb too much. Can't believe this series had turned into a ship war lmao. The anime will be received so much better anyway. |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Episode 13 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )anime-prime - Mar 7, 2021 |
521 |
by graciana
»»
12 hours ago |
|
Poll: » Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )anime-prime - Jan 31, 2021 |
830 |
by graciana
»»
Yesterday, 11:40 PM |
|
Poll: » Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Episode 3 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )anime-prime - Dec 20, 2020 |
604 |
by graciana
»»
Oct 6, 3:39 AM |
|
» Dont make those flame wars threads distract you from thisrach1m4n - Mar 14, 2021 |
16 |
by PeterOliver1
»»
Sep 27, 5:39 PM |
|
Poll: » Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )anime-prime - Jan 17, 2021 |
1056 |
by Spootzel
»»
Sep 18, 11:10 PM |