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JavierR said: Thanks for explaining guys, I would watch Fate stay night to see how things turn out but I don't think i would enjoy it as much since Kariya (the only guy I liked in the show) isn't there. The anime doesnt even touch Sakura's story |
JavierR said: Thanks for explaining guys, I would watch Fate stay night to see how things turn out but I don't think i would enjoy it as much since Kariya (the only guy I liked in the show) isn't there. Except F/SN anime doesn't explain shit. Leon-Gun said: ^That. In Fate canon Zouken basically gets so annoyed by how much she doesn't responds that he lets Byakuya (her adoptive father and Shinji's dad) continue the "training" rather than doing it personally. He tried several other methods to torment her but even that stopped working fast. And the less I remembe of that the less I will hate Rin for not giving a rat's ass about Sakuras situation overall. Edit: why did I write Kariya. lol Femme Fatale? Yeah that was some instant karma right there... |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
ssjokg said: Lol, Latex BDSM Sakura. At least they got Medea's tastes right.JavierR said: Thanks for explaining guys, I would watch Fate stay night to see how things turn out but I don't think i would enjoy it as much since Kariya (the only guy I liked in the show) isn't there. The anime doesnt even touch Sakura's story |
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Leon-Gun said: ssjokg said: Lol, Latex BDSM Sakura. At least they got Medea's tastes right.JavierR said: Thanks for explaining guys, I would watch Fate stay night to see how things turn out but I don't think i would enjoy it as much since Kariya (the only guy I liked in the show) isn't there. The anime doesnt even touch Sakura's story Without even knowing that FSN is a VN I knew that that arc was crap.It didnt even make sense.Sakura was gone for the entire show and suddenly random shit happen.At least they didnt spoil HF.Except |
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| 1) She was built with the capability to give birth, unlike the other Homonculi. 2)Ilya was manipulated in many ways by Acht, the leader of the Einzbern family. Part of those modifications is responsible for her not growing properly. As for the way she acts, she's actually a lot more mature that she lets on. She "acts" like a kid, but in several scenes in the Visual Novel she acts extremely mature. But since she looks young she just liked to pretend she's a little girl. 3) He didn't exactly predict Angra Mainyu would curse him and take his magical abilities. Kiritsugu's abilities, when in top shape, would have been more than enough to infiltrate the Einzbern state and taken Ilya out. After The Grail cursed him however his abilities deteriorated quickly and he was unable to even break the magical barriers around the mansion, let alone fight the monsters that protected the castle. He even died from the curse 5 years later. |
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Leon-Gun said: 1) She was built with the capability to give birth, unlike the other Homonculi. 2)Ilya was manipulated in many ways by Acht, the leader of the Einzbern family. Part of those modifications is responsible for her not growing properly. As for the way she acts, she's actually a lot more mature that she lets on. She "acts" like a kid, but in several scenes in the Visual Novel she acts extremely mature. But since she looks young she just liked to pretend she's a little girl. 3) He didn't exactly predict Angra Mainyu would curse him and take his magical abilities. Kiritsugu's abilities, when in top shape, would have been more than enough to infiltrate the Einzbern state and taken Ilya out. After The Grail cursed him however his abilities deteriorated quickly and he was unable to even break the magical barriers around the mansion, let alone fight the monsters that protected the castle. He even died from the curse 5 years later. I think it was mentioned (CM IIRC) that by the time of the 4th war, the Einzberns no longer cared about the wish. All they wanted was to win the war as a formality and prove their superiority over the other 2 great families. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: They no longer cared about the wish or the root. So long as the grail was completed and the portal opened their goal would have been finished. All they cared was that the ritual itself was proven succesfull so they could finally brag that they performed Third Magic like their ancestors.I think it was mentioned (CM IIRC) that by the time of the 4th war, the Einzberns no longer cared about the wish. All they wanted was to win the war as a formality and prove their superiority over the other 2 great families. |
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| 30+ pages, I'm late for the afterparty. But damn, the end was a morbid fest. Made me remember NGE's ending, for all its mindfuckery. Am I getting this right? Kiritsugu's wish for peace can only be achieved by killing all 6 billion people with just the 2 of his family members left? Because as the ship analogy states, he will keep killing people in each instance until the people he have killed in culmination would have beaten the number of people he could potentially save in the end. Killing his dad, then Natalia, now metaphysically Iri and Ilya, I'm surprised he actually stayed sane to raise Shirou for 5 years. What a trooper. But the late morbid grind near the end was just not my cup of tea. It's hard to get enjoyment out of it when it gets rather disturbing. That scene with Kariya and Aoi was madness. I mean, I get Kariya was already batshit insane with Zouken's bugs but that was just a tragedy. Yeah the conclusion was already implied as an inevitable tragedy, but it just isn't something I'd call enjoyable. I know for these type of shows my enjoyment shouldn't matter that much but it did just that. Well, I did enjoy much of the early intrigue in character depth and philosophy. Alexander and Gilgamesh is like very essences of epicness, and even the rather deeply flawed Arturia was somewhat fascinating. Although Fate Zero kind of painted her as some naive kid by the end of it. |
Tachii said: Arthur was naive though. He had an utter and idealistic sense of justice which is what leads to Mordred actually managing to stage a rebellion.30+ pages, I'm late for the afterparty. But damn, the end was a morbid fest. Made me remember NGE's ending, for all its mindfuckery. Am I getting this right? Kiritsugu's wish for peace can only be achieved by killing all 6 billion people with just the 2 of his family members left? Because as the ship analogy states, he will keep killing people in each instance until the people he have killed in culmination would have beaten the number of people he could potentially save in the end. Killing his dad, then Natalia, now metaphysically Iri and Ilya, I'm surprised he actually stayed sane to raise Shirou for 5 years. What a trooper. But the late morbid grind near the end was just not my cup of tea. It's hard to get enjoyment out of it when it gets rather disturbing. That scene with Kariya and Aoi was madness. I mean, I get Kariya was already batshit insane with Zouken's bugs but that was just a tragedy. Yeah the conclusion was already implied as an inevitable tragedy, but it just isn't something I'd call enjoyable. I know for these type of shows my enjoyment shouldn't matter that much but it did just that. Well, I did enjoy much of the early intrigue in character depth and philosophy. Alexander and Gilgamesh is like very essences of epicness, and even the rather deeply flawed Arturia was somewhat fascinating. Although Fate Zero kind of painted her as some naive kid by the end of it. As for Kiritsugu, the Grail twisted his wish and instead wanted to fulfill his secret wish. It went from wishing for justice and world peace to him just wanting to save his family. SOmething the anime kind of glossed over was the fact Kiritsugu was torn between his objective and just living a normal life with Irisviel and Ilyasviel. That's why in one of the episodes he breaks down and says he wants to run away with Iri and take Ilya with them. |
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| I wish I didn't already complete Fate/Stay Night so I can watch it right after this. :( |
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OriginANIME said: I wish I didn't already complete Fate/Stay Night so I can watch it right after this. :( Then go read the VN. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: OriginANIME said: I wish I didn't already complete Fate/Stay Night so I can watch it right after this. :( Then go read the VN. This. If you've only watched the FSN anime you're missing out a lot. |
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Ragna92 said: BloodRequiem said: OriginANIME said: I wish I didn't already complete Fate/Stay Night so I can watch it right after this. :( Then go read the VN. This. If you've only watched the FSN anime you're missing out a lot. I dont need to say anything more right?Read the VN with the patch that adds Realta nua's extra CG's and voices.Done. |
| Lol that useless Shiro appeared. |
| Pretty awesome ending!! Answered a lot of my lingering questions. |
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xtremexx said: I didn't cry, don't know how but i didn't cry. Well that was one huge mind f**k and it just got more and more depressing, jeez therewere so many deaths that just made me sad, aoi didn't even die but that still depressed me. Well I'm off to go watch fate stay night, hopefully I won't kill myself out of depression. You will kill yourself out of boredom.Go read the fate/stay night VN.It's many times better than any of its adaptions |
xtremexx said: ssjokg said: xtremexx said: I didn't cry, don't know how but i didn't cry. Well that was one huge mind f**k and it just got more and more depressing, jeez therewere so many deaths that just made me sad, aoi didn't even die but that still depressed me. Well I'm off to go watch fate stay night, hopefully I won't kill myself out of depression. You will kill yourself out of boredom.Go read the fate/stay night VN.It's many times better than any of its adaptions Lol is the show that bad? Maybe I can find the book on Baka tsuki it's a "game" actually.I will PM you. |
| Down to zero we go... Great ending for Fate/Zero. This is the perfect prequel, no story holes at all and it's even more tragic than the Visual Novel Fate/stay night. Urobuchi gave us a great story, well developed until the end. 10/10 without any doubts, it's already one of my favorite anime while I did not enjoy too much the adaptations of stay night and UBW. |
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| Could have been resolved much better. As well as explained more thoroughly. For example, why was anyone allowed to make a prayer/wish before there was only one master remaining? Does the grail not require that? Only that a master be present? If so what is the point of the war? How did these people even know the grail would be there?They just show up and start fighting and all of a sudden we get some boat analogy and lava starts killing everyone. I'm oversimplifying it because that's what it does to the viewer. It's so incredibly open ended, rather then wasting time on the little kid and his fake gran parents we should be getting some explanation for why things happened the way they did. I enjoyed it but for an anime that gets so much praise you'd assume it would know how to construct a narrative to inform the viewer of why and how things occur. I have this season sitting at a 9 but I feel like I might have to shift it to a 8. Episode 18 and 19(the flashback episodes) were the two best episodes by far. I shouldn't have to read up on what the hell happened, the anime should do a good job of covering all that, if it doesn't then it's not a good anime. |
steinsedge said: yes i also didn't quite understand the ending i watched all 24 episodes within 2 days and the story was great until the last episode when saber tries to destroy the grail and then i'm lost how can one person die, comeback and seem like he won when clearly he was dead... and also how can archer stay in the "real world" and saber be sent back to her dimension? this would be mean archer won but he didn't even launch an attack... Kiritsugu lost because he refused the Graal, the winner was the last team alive (in this case, Gilgamesh was still alive) |
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steinsedge said: Saber disappeared because she lost her connection to Kiritsugu when he used up his two last Command Spells, and the Excaliblast depleted all her remaining prana.great until the last episode when saber tries to destroy the grail and then i'm lost how can one person die, comeback and seem like he won when clearly he was dead... and also how can archer stay in the "real world" and saber be sent back to her dimension? Gilgamesh could stay because he received a real, physical body when he was covered with the Grail mud. Because Gilgamesh and Kirei had a Servant-Master bond, Kirei was resurrected by the Grail, as well. |
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steinsedge said: It's not like she was sent "to her dimension" either. She was sent back to her time, unique rules for her and all.ahhh yes thank you to both of you that does make more sense :) |
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NNick said: Why couldn't Saber destroy the grail with Excalibur? She did, but not its contents. Hence the matter of angra mainyu pouring out. |
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NNick said: Why couldn't Saber destroy the grail with Excalibur? Simply put, Kiritsugu aimed for the wrong thing. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
steinsedge said: i just watched the whole fate/stay night series and it made me appreciate everything even more! because of that fate zero's ending makes more sense and it makes it so much more amazing but don't get me wrong watching this prequel made stay night freakin amazing! i loved it! for me the problem every time is a get so absorbed and emotionally involved in a series it always feels like a bad hangover when i'm done I know that feel bro. Now play the VN, that's what i did to quell those feelings after F/Z and F/SN anime. Or find another awesome anime! |
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NNick said: I'd love to play Stay Night VN but i can't get it to work :/ . did you change the locale settings to japanese? |
ssjokg said: NNick said: I'd love to play Stay Night VN but i can't get it to work :/ . did you change the locale settings to japanese? Easy as pie No need to mount ISO, or hassle with local setting. Just double click on fate.exe and you're in the game. |
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sagdashin said: ssjokg said: NNick said: I'd love to play Stay Night VN but i can't get it to work :/ . did you change the locale settings to japanese? Easy as pie No need to mount ISO, or hassle with local setting. Just double click on fate.exe and you're in the game. The version I gave him is the same plus I gave him links for the extra CG from realta nua. The one you posted is the same I have and I needed to change the locale to make it work |
ssjokg said: sagdashin said: ssjokg said: NNick said: I'd love to play Stay Night VN but i can't get it to work :/ . did you change the locale settings to japanese? Easy as pie No need to mount ISO, or hassle with local setting. Just double click on fate.exe and you're in the game. The version I gave him is the same plus I gave him links for the extra CG from realta nua. The one you posted is the same I have and I needed to change the locale to make it work Ah ok. I didn't need to when I installed. It probably differs from Computer to Computer or OS, or perhaps that I've activated Microsoft IME for japanese, よろしく. Hope he made it work though! |
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NNick said: I changed local settings, and clicked on exe, nothing happened. Downloading it again. Horrible speed though, any other links? can you send me a pic with the contents of the folder? |
NNick said: Too late, I already deleted everything. Downloading again from here Good that i have 100 MB/S internet. 8 mins left. Thats the link I gave you back in May. Are you sure you changed the right settings?The game should have started when you clicked on Fate.exe |
NNick said: Maybe i did something wrong. We'll see. 2 min. If you change the locale settings the pc will ask you to restart it so if that does not happen when you press the "OK" button then you are changing something else. |
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