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Aug 20, 2017 8:32 AM
#601
CorruptedPurity said: I can't read it honestly. I don't like using misguided town as we all are our own guides to an extent and we are all off base considering we are the uninformed majority. So by the nature of the beast we will all be misguided townies barking up the wrong tree occasionally. The only one who I say might have malicious intent is whisper who I have encountered this with before. He says I always find him scummy but the funny thing about that is the one game I didn't scum read him was his one town game (his first game) he's been scum ever since and caught a scum read from me each time. So why is he so offended that I always read him scum when that is what he has been in those game? Look at how defensive and emotional he got over it early going so far as to cuss at me over a read on him? I know he might be new town but I am not seeing that here. @logic340 The post saying the main offender is refering to me, not you logic. Don't misinterpret. Im extending an olive branch here as I can see you're changing and being more cooperative and nicer to others and I also can see your frustration. I just don't want it to get the better of you and cloud your judgement. Of all the people there who is frustrating you, do you think any one of them are doing it purposely as scum? Or do you read them as misguided town? |
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Aug 20, 2017 8:36 AM
#602
lastwhisper31 said: What dead horse am I beating by asking you to further explain your feeling? How does my question amount to me asking you to push Labs for a lynch? As I stated on page 9 I am neutral there. I don't necessarily see the claim as fluff but it's not something I can use on it's own to gauge his alignment. I haven't looked over the posts you quoted though I noted you said you picked them selectively. Not sure what you wanted to accomplish with that post either seeing as how you didn't go into how you feel about the posts you quoted. Why do you feel like he isn't worth pushing today if you neutral scum read him? Why should we put off scum reads for later?@logic340 I remember some where you asked for my opinion on Labs. Tbh He has a lot of fluff posts including the 3 posts where he clarified he was scum, I mean beating a dead horse dont you think, but I dont feel like pushing him on just that, and because its a weekend I dont believe we will get anything more from him as of right now. But if anything I'd give him a slight neutral-scum lean. |
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Aug 20, 2017 8:42 AM
#603
roz1roz said: Lamby said no to claim though, Idk if that was a joke or not but I'm not gunna test him. I feel like for being a tpr survivor at best your abilities are pretty meh, but who knows.Meh... tbh... I wanted to try and hunt mafia, but this role kills my creativity. Hardclaim neutral. I got no killing power. I got only one active ability - using bulletproof vest on me or person from specific group. I got only one passive ability, wich tells me that I'm neutral. My wincon requiers me or person from the same specific group to be alive when game ends. |
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Aug 20, 2017 8:48 AM
#604
logic340 said: Sorry I if I was being unclear, I meant that Lamby was kinda of beating a dead horse with the scum claims, not you. Well honestly no one else is pushing Labs for it, so I don't feel like ill be able to get a train on him anyways. and to answer the second question I kinda want to see where he goes with the whole, dont claim your role post atm, maybe he wants people to vote him, thats how I feel about . I guess it just feels to ez to melastwhisper31 said: What dead horse am I beating by asking you to further explain your feeling? How does my question amount to me asking you to push Labs for a lynch? As I stated on page 9 I am neutral there. I don't necessarily see the claim as fluff but it's not something I can use on it's own to gauge his alignment. I haven't looked over the posts you quoted though I noted you said you picked them selectively. Not sure what you wanted to accomplish with that post either seeing as how you didn't go into how you feel about the posts you quoted. Why do you feel like he isn't worth pushing today if you neutral scum read him? Why should we put off scum reads for later?@logic340 I remember some where you asked for my opinion on Labs. Tbh He has a lot of fluff posts including the 3 posts where he clarified he was scum, I mean beating a dead horse dont you think, but I dont feel like pushing him on just that, and because its a weekend I dont believe we will get anything more from him as of right now. But if anything I'd give him a slight neutral-scum lean. Edit: words |
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Aug 20, 2017 8:50 AM
#605
Aug 20, 2017 8:52 AM
#606
lastwhisper31 said: you never know unless you try. Look how your one vote turned into a 3 vote train on me because Coelestin asked Claire if she wanted to vote me with her. Don't sell yourself short. If you really feel he is scum here pursue that I would like you to go over your post where you quoted his posts and give either a summary of your feeling or go Post by Post stating how you feel about each one. logic340 said: Sorry I if I was being unclear, I meant that Lamby was kinda of beating a dead horse with the scum claims, not you. Well honestly no one else is pushing Labs for it, so I don't feel like ill be able to get a train on him anyways. and to answer the second question I kinda want to see where he goes with the whole, dont claim your role post atm, maybe he wants people to vote him, thats how I feel about . I guess it just feels to ez to melastwhisper31 said: @logic340 I remember some where you asked for my opinion on Labs. Tbh He has a lot of fluff posts including the 3 posts where he clarified he was scum, I mean beating a dead horse dont you think, but I dont feel like pushing him on just that, and because its a weekend I dont believe we will get anything more from him as of right now. But if anything I'd give him a slight neutral-scum lean. Edit: words |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:06 AM
#607
Okay, catch up coming~ Goodness, so many pages in this one |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:12 AM
#608
Mishukax said: Back reading this and I noticed this, Abu was just joking with me, and Im not gunna push him for answering my question, I asked him to say something scummy. Lamby has claimed hes scum in 3 different posts so far, I have an Iso of them all on like page 10 or 11 if I recall. and I never said anything about being scum, I said I could NK, which was a lie, I cant NK. I do understand your point though, I got scum read a while back for a post like this, but I used the word scum in my post, and I also understand that it does convolutes peoples opinions of your gameplay.Gonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:42 AM
#609
logic340 said: A page ago from this one you said something similar to, Whisper/someone/someone are suspicious. We should put pressure on them and just posted it like that. The thought was what, we would just take your advice and do it, or just as a way to let your thoughts out. Suzune-chan said: Explain further. There is not enough context here for me to understand what you are getting at.Logic, I don't understand. Why tell people what is worth pressuring instead of just doing it? @logic340 aa-dono said: Logic sees something he thinks is there. Last tends to go with the flow of what he has unless he becomes upset. So at this point it is probably town logic because he is on fire with what he believes but this is where it gets hardest to sort the things that logic does that are true from the biases that are created. Arrisu said: I do want Last to be pressured. He;s one of those really fast learning player (but on the scummy side). Logic's aggression happens a lot. :/@_Claire_ - Fair enough. Besides, what do you think of Logic and Whisper's disagreement? @aa-dono - That goes for you as well. At the moment, none of them are town. I like that logic seems to pick up on things I find suspicious, but I don't think they're huge scum markers. As for Last, worth pressuring. Though chances are, you can't catch scum on him by inconsistencies in posts. Maybe off behaviour. His replies to Logic seems alright though. What do you make of them? logic340 said: This is super true. missed on scheduled day and there were almost ten pages...AbuHumaid said: that may never happen, you should at least try to catch up from now.I'll just dip out of the game until it gets less active Arrisu said: This is what it reads as. She is kind of above the maddness that is going on, on this page. This reads almost as aloof and it stands out from the other dialogue. More like she is observing something interesting rather then meeting Logic's claim. As far as I'm concerned I just see @_Claire_ toying with us and our hearts. She want us to think that she's got a trap up her sleeve. I don't like that. It's hitting players below the belt. It only gives me more indication to vote against her. Claire, moving away from yourself and CP, what are your thoughts thus far on players? |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:48 AM
#610
Suzune-chan said: IDK why everyone keeps misrepresenting what that post said and was about. I will refer you to post #423 for a response to this. logic340 said: A page ago from this one you said something similar to, Whisper/someone/someone are suspicious. We should put pressure on them and just posted it like that. The thought was what, we would just take your advice and do it, or just as a way to let your thoughts out.Suzune-chan said: Logic, I don't understand. Why tell people what is worth pressuring instead of just doing it? @logic340 |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:49 AM
#611
Phraze said: Vote: Mishukax my hat to u old chap lol actually I'm curious what role u got. to be hilarious XD interesting story btw. and CP is guaranteed to give us a headache yey~ 1. RVS pretty by the numbers NAI. Phraze said: @Mishukax Mishukax said: finished skimming the thread and it's interesting. and yeah, I'd rather switch my rvs now@Phraze do you still like your RVS vote on me or does this gamestate lead you to another line of thinking? @CorruptedPurity CorruptedPurity said: I respect that. the buzz around u was very helpfulAs usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: CP is better alive to mafia atm, since he's gonna intoxicate us late into the game. going after him on D1 is a wasteLol, Sorry its gunna take more than a big bold banner saying "CP is best town" to confirm ur alignment in a bastard game. and how are you so sure we will conform to this? @Arrisu Arrisu said: do u find CP suspicious or just strange?Of course nobody will believe you as of yet. It is a bastard game after all. Though why are you already putting so much focus onto whether we believe you or not? I dont see a train forming against you. Strange. Arrisu said: if u don't have a strong opinion why switch rvs onto Claire?Regarding her other post. I will be looking into it further but for the moment I have no strong opinion either way. @AbuHumaid AbuHumaid said: +1@lastwhisper31 you should stop throwing unnecessary shades and stick around even if it's 2much2read Phraze said: what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 Phraze said: Coelestin said: u were in that game? funny I don't remember lol. didn't notice so many ppl voted Last tho. is he obv scum or just bad town? kinda forgot how it gets when scum sacrifice their buds I would like a better read on u plsWelp yeah, my own vote reminds me way too much of the Great Terror, cause I did exactly the same there. I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish here though, so let's get onto the fun~ Vote: LastWhisper31 What do you think about Claire now, logic? @Tingle why aren't you voting yet? Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back 1. NAI post about already being at page 9. 2. I kind of like this post, doesn't feel like she's just trying to look busy but I can't really give this town points. 3. This post confuses me which is typical Phraze. I had to read it multiple times as the only OMGUS I felt coming from last was towards my slot. While I agree with the conclusions without talking part he rest of it seems to be a bit off base. Her confused and townish list need going through but at least she shared her thoughts on her own without people having to chase her down for them. 4. NAI post realizing that Coelestin is Chione 5. Seems that she believes Coelestin is playing too cleanly. An argument I have used as scum and something I have seen scum do in an effort to look townie so it's kind of NAI for now but worth noting for later. Phraze said: logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. Phraze said: @logic340 You were both mafia in that game don't play around and act like you had to read her there. I still tried to get her meta for future reference XDWhat is your read on Coelestin so far? If you have trouble reading her you should work on sorting that out. my read on her is either scum or tpr, since she's too town for comfort. besides whatever I wrote in that post What do you find suspicious specifically? Is there a post you can link to help me understand where you are coming from? think I alrdy quoted that. she had no strong opinion on anyone yet switched vote to Claire few posts earlier. I'd imagine she had a good opinion on Claire to switch rvs to a real vote [edit: besides potentially agreeing with Last to vote Claire despite having no conversation with him]Phraze said: Coelestin said: ikr~Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back ...häh? Why should I care about that? Can you point out some posts where he did that? not sure I wanna dig up the links from 10 pages, since my internet's a pain, but the posts where he switched targets, and votes, should be proof enough (too aggressive imo) Phraze said: logic340 said: we all need to figure thought processes to win the game so no worries. meta just feels very spoilery [tho it's just a meta peeve of mine]Phraze said: logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: when u come back, pls give a brief explanation of ur gameplay. I'm new to u and have a bad impression, no offense. finding fault in every little thing is suspicious behaviorBeing low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. Phraze said: @Suzune-chan didn't notice it was ur bday. happy birthday <3 @logic340 @Phraze gotta look over what you've posted recently. Out of nei into neutral. cool ty. would most likely be active over the weekend and half asleep@Phraze and @Coelestin check the spoiler below I think this it's the posts in question. there's a post where Last switched focus from CP to Claire@_Claire_ You did not outline why youre voting Last instead youre jumping on opportunity. Is that what im seeing atm? I make my own decisions. <- long time no say itI didn't outline but I can refer for u to read. or rather, just read through the whole 10 pages and try to feel the whole direction Last has been steering. there's advantages in backreading(or catching up in my case). Last is acting too carefree for town, that means he has protection of some sort, which would mean he's scum or town with some bastard powers as for reference: he hammered on CP for a long while, what he wrote when voting u(Claire) and Logic posted the one about him at #460 @Arrisu Arrisu said: ermm..ur one of my scum leans yknow. Chi should be fine since ur saying this, in my pov. next in line after Last, should he require the benefit of doubtAs of now, I feel like Chi is playing her town game. I like the way she's thinking. It feels genuine. 1. I can respect her not wanting to let meta influence her reads but she needs to get an understanding of where people are coming from which is what my post was trying to accomplish. Also she overlooks the fact that I said he could be town with little exp but not sure if that is all that alignment indicative. 2. This feels like a bit of a contradiction to the post above it. Doesn't want whisper's meta but tried to collect Coelstin meta when they were scum together? @Phraze why so against meta here when you were collecting meta for yourself previously? 3. Not sure how I feel about this one. I don't think that a great reason for a vote switch is necessary at that stage of the game. I make moves around that stage often forcing ties and moving new people into the lead slot all the time, so I can say from my own exp that it isn't scum indicative. Phraze I think is forcing this one but will keep an eye on it. 4. To lazy to substantiate her claim? Not sure that is a scum mindset as they are usually gung ho about getting people on board with their ideas if they are ballsy enough to put them out there like that. 5. I really like this one feels like she is trying to actually understand him rather than just label him one way or the other. 6. I like how she lays out her thoughts in regards to whisper here, but not sure if that is a nod for town. If whisper is struggling new town then he is giving mafia an easy target imo. As for Phraze this doesn't feel all that opportunistic to me. Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 Did I really do that much omgus towards CP and Claire? I can see that coming in an arguement if your refering to me and Logic? All I did was RVS Claire, and I told her I was gunna do it. So you already read the 9 pages, and came to the consensus that my omgus posts mean I'm scum? not the rvs. Claire had some attention somewhere in the game and u shifted focus to her from CP.Can you explain to me my what you mean by bounced accusations, Im trying to poke people, and honestly Logic suspects me every game so its nothing new, but I can say I was a little heated last night and jumped the boat on that vote. I get suspicious of ppl aggressively poking ppl and then back off saying it was a strategy. I got lynched so hard over that lmao@Phraze, so exactly why are you voting me, again? u have to explain to me how u play as town. I'm new to u so I'm basing off general reading. u created a lot of confusion with ur readings and accusations, which is beneficial to mafia and not townPhraze said: slight correction: Last only targeted Claire and not vote her somewhere midgame. thought it was both >.> Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: [spoiler="Most of Lamb's Posts"] Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Labs said: Mishukax said: CorruptedPurity said: Tfw there is a literal banner in large, bold words from the host giving me innocent child status and no one believes me... Some of us have a sad past with confirmed townies in bastard games. Some of us have bastard experience. Some of us are mafia trying do negate a townfirm in case it'd turn out useful. Chances are even some of us are the three of those. Dunno what Labs has in mind but I'm gonna listen to him. Are you still against someone claiming if he's getting lynched hard? Of-course I am.... why would someone be getting lynched in the first place, why wouldn't they just give us a decent reason not to eventually. Also it's a bastard Role-madness game, errbody guna have a role or more mixed into it, everyone's guna be just as useful in one way or another, so I wont really care unless it's some super dunk a nigg modded doctor.... and if that's the case they'd be fuhkked for claiming. I'd prefer someone who knows how to play the game for what it is instead. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: You don't know who is said role anyways..... right?Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: I can work with that then, would you NK yourself?Labs said: Nope, I only know my rolelastwhisper31 said: You don't know who is said role anyways..... right?Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Labs said: AbuHumaid said: Me 3lastwhisper31 said: Okay. I'm mafiaAbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Labs said: AbuHumaid said: Me 3lastwhisper31 said: Okay. I'm mafiaAbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Let's just take our conversation to the mafia club instead :SIts funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Labs said: Mishukax said: Well... I get your point I guess, but you might not have to.... not for longGonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. Vote: Mishu Labs said: Yeeaahhhh dis bold seems on point tbh.Tingle said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me.I am glad you asked this cause I was contemplating alot about revealing my second ability or not. My Passive is "Best Town" - It does as what Ruu posted at the start of the thread. Host did warn me that people may not believe me because it was a bastard game though. Seems like his warning is true. I have another passive which can turn into an active under a set of conditions. What it is, what it can be and what the conditions are will be secret for now. I don't see the host sticking their nose in the game like that...... I'd bet more on backwards meta fuhkking the roster, as per the repeat of not tagging said player with the whole best town insert. Edit: I cut the quote up wrong here.... wooops Labs said: _Claire_ said: PS: as the phase change is always at 6 AM my time, it is next to impossible for me to be in any phase change at all. Cheers, I'll know to snipe you then <3 of all ppl why him.... vvv Phraze said: u created a lot of confusion with ur readings and accusations, which is beneficial to mafia and not town Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 I get an idea of how u play now anddd like ur approach to ur predicament changing votes Vote: Arrisu Arrisu and Chi team sounds cool atm pls just not Dono cuz I'm bad at dealing with emotional appeal Phraze said: @aa-donomind a little chat? <3 what u think of things so far? Phraze said: logic340 said: u mean talking to me? I can't read him if I don't talk to him~@lastwhisper31 lets focus our attention elsewhere because this is getting us no where. Just leave your vote on me and talk with someone else for a while please. Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 hi~ I said somewhere earlier that Arrisu is my next suspect if ur to be given the benefit of doubt. pretty sure I mentioned her in the same post @aa-donoI totally agree about Mish. he goes off radar too easily >.> can't read him to save my life Arrisu is suspicious for 2nding doubts and not having solid opinions. doesn't look like she has contributed to the hunt so far, only comment 1. I like and agree with her reasoning on whisper I really like the first part of the post but that doesn't mean it comes from town. The last part I really like and for town as she feels like she is actually trying to understand him rather than just target him for a lynch. 2. NAI post? Corrects something she got wrong about whisper would scum do this? 3. While I like this question it's pretty NAI and she could have gone a little deeper, this is kind of a barebones question. 4. Not sure what she means here would have liked to see more of her thought process in moving this vote as she felt like she had a bit of a scum read on whisper. She had stated her opinion on Arrisu a little earlier but I feel like this this slightly contradicts what she said about Coelestin on Page 10 about voting without strong/good reasons. Seem hypocritical of her. 5. Very barebones question to dono. 6. NAI as I am not sure what she is getting at here nor do I think it really matters. 7. This read on Arrisu feels a bit weird. Arri hasn't left the deepest impression on me but I wouldn't class what she has done as not having a solid opinion or lacking contribution. I can actually think of about 5 or 6 players in this game who would have less contribution or solid opinions at this stage and Phraze happens to be one of them. Overall I think I am neutral leaning scum on Phraze right now but knowing I have a hard time reading and understanding her mindset I wouldn't be surprised if this read is off. I would be willing to vote for her though as she needs to show more. |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:51 AM
#612
vc coming soon ~ |
Aug 20, 2017 9:52 AM
#613
Think I'm gunna take do what Logic suggested and go deeper into Lamby. I'm gunna quote my prior post and actually give my opinion on each of Lamby's post, in a little bit. For now I think im done with the logic train, and ill unvote. |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:55 AM
#614
Arrisu said: I agree aa has felt rather townie these last few pages.I like aa-dono. Lots of town effort. It pleases me since I usually have a null/scum read on her. :D Which reminds me, don't I usually have a scum read on you @_Claire_? lol CorruptedPurity said: I believe the pressure stemmed from the fact that it was not an innocent child claim but a best town claim. Since we were not given a traditional role, there seemed to be no reason to believe it was necessarily the same role. _Claire_ said: AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: That's some BS. I stated my opinions, you're just ignoringaa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. +1. I am asking for his opinion 2x and he just left or something RIP. Who do you think we should look into beside CP? I dont see it sorry, probably link it for me? Well, more like why are you looking at CP? The only guy who got cleared by mod. Like if you don't trust mod, fine. Then I am NAI. An innocent child claim never warrants a scum read even in a bastard game. Your entire case on me was cause of my claim, not my behaviour, my interactions or anything about me beside my role. So it's a weak case. You could look at the too fuffy lastwhisper or the pressurizing logic or the subtle yet impactful aa-dono but you're looking at the only guy who did nothing much but fluff abit with his role. Bottom of page 7 |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:56 AM
#615
logic340 said: I'm not there yet. It was from over 24 hours ago, but you pinged me and I answered why I said that. Suzune-chan said: IDK why everyone keeps misrepresenting what that post said and was about. I will refer you to post #423 for a response to this. logic340 said: Suzune-chan said: Explain further. There is not enough context here for me to understand what you are getting at.Logic, I don't understand. Why tell people what is worth pressuring instead of just doing it? @logic340 |
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Aug 20, 2017 9:58 AM
#616
1.4 Claire: Arrisu, Abu Mishukax: Labs, aa-dono Phraze: Mishukax, Claire Arrisu: Phraze Coelestin: Suzune-chan lastwhisper: Coelestin roz1roz: logic340 Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz, lastwhisper 1. aa-dono > Arrisu > Mishukax 2. Last > Claire > Logic 3. Labs > CorruptivePurity > Mishukax 4.. Claire > CorruptivePurity > logic340 > Phraze 5. Tingle 6. logic340 > lastwhisper > Claire > lastwhisper > roz1roz 7. Suzune-chan > Coelestin 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > logic340 > Claire 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz 12. Arrisu > Colestin > Claire 13. Coelestin > Mishukax > logic340 > lastwhisper 14. Mishukax > Phraze 15. Phraze > Mishukax > lastwhisper > Arrisu Mod comments: Please be kind to one another ~ |
KaitouAug 20, 2017 2:59 PM
Aug 20, 2017 9:59 AM
#617
Ruu said: I literally just unvoted, @feelsbadman :(.1.3 Claire: Arrisu, Abu logic340: lastwhisper Mishukax: Labs Phraze: Mishukax, Claire Arrisu: aa-dono, Arrisu Coelestin: Suzune-chan lastwhisper: Coelestin roz1roz: logic340 Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz 1. aa-dono > Arrisu 2. Last > Claire > Logic 3. Labs > CorruptivePurity > Mishukax 4.. Claire > CorruptivePurity > logic340 > Phraze 5. Tingle 6. logic340 > lastwhisper > Claire > lastwhisper > roz1roz 7. Suzune-chan > Coelestin 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > logic340 > Claire 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz 12. Arrisu > Colestin > Claire 13. Coelestin > Mishukax > logic340 > lastwhisper 14. Mishukax > Phraze 15. Phraze > Mishukax > lastwhispe > Arrisur Mod comments: Please be kind to one another ~ |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:03 AM
#618
@lastwhisper31 my page didn't show your post until after I had posted the vc. Sorry, I edited the post <3 |
Aug 20, 2017 10:03 AM
#619
_Claire_ said: In my opinion you flip back and forth between being above the action and being upset about the action. It is this constant changing that makes me curious about you and draw me to you.AbuHumaid said: CorruptedPurity said: AbuHumaid said: Vote: Claire I wanted to vote her when i was arguing with her but since i wasn't caught up i didn't, but now after i reread the thread I'm scum reading her. Any particular part of her argument screamed scum to you? I did say the reason. This is a bastard game. I said, Chris did the same thing in previous game, does not mean it will happen now. He also blatantly tells us he can tell a lie. You just refuse to listen to me, thats all Abu. Also even if you think its not good reason, its you. I think it is good enough because at that time I have no leads. You never play with me is it? Defensive is my middle name. But if you want to scumread me based on that, oh well.. I guess people just believe behaviours more than action :) Its sad honestly. @CorruptedPurity I think your "I respect that" are in the wrong kind of places sometimes and it stands out to me. I noticed it at first and had assumed you drew Denja but the odd placement of them makes me think you have a post requirement and you have to say it. Bottom of page eight |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:05 AM
#620
AbuHumaid said: @roz1roz this is one of those posts that stands out to me. While it could come from either alignment it feels more like town abu to me. He isn't this brash as scum as he wants to lay a little bit lower. One day this type of read my come to bite me but I don't feel today is that day. _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:13 AM
#621
logic340 said: So you are using this posting style to see who is actually curious about things vs what? if someone just wants to push someone else. For there to even be a reason to push someone else they would be able to come up with something to tell you. I feel like most people put thought into the reasons they push people or push back.Coelestin said: while I know that some do want to understand others don't even attempt to try and understand which I've gotten on whisper about in another game already. So it sucks that I'm seeing the same exact thing here. Part of the reason I made this whole post saying that now I need to go back and clear things up because people won't ask me what I actually mean. Which is part of the reason that I post the way I do to see who's willing to get an understanding and who just wants to attack things.logic340 said: So I've read everything and I'm a little miffed at how my posts are being misconstrued, misunderstood, misrepresented, and considered useless. I'll go over specific posts and give clarification here shortly but I have live mafia, another mafia game, work, and general real life to tend to as well. Abu for town - even if I want people to look into him and pressure him for his scum claim. Talking about the three who scum claimed, I see a lot of you misrepping me or commenting on that post without understanding where logic is coming from. This is the one that stands out the most as at least 4 people have touched on it. Your posts aren't useless. Misguided maybe, but not useless. Some of us just want to understand what drives you to do what you're doing, that's all. @Logic340 Yes people this is a bastard game but that doesn't mean that everything is a lie or that we just assume the opposite. this is true though, it is more like we have to play regularly and then consider this before closing our actions. |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:23 AM
#622
Ugh, I honestly just started an hour ago on my post because I forgot, I'm not even halfway.. And my mom decided to finally have some family time, so she's dragging me to the movies.. I don't know if I'll be home on time for phase change.. =.= Here's hoping that I'll be back on time to finish this and to place my vote. |
Aug 20, 2017 10:23 AM
#623
@roz1roz do you have some thoughts on the game you could share? If this is all you are going to give leading into the phase change I would rather lynch you a claimed TPR than possibly CFDing on town. |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:23 AM
#624
Tingle said: Could you at least post what you do have ready?Ugh, I honestly just started an hour ago on my post because I forgot, I'm not even halfway.. And my mom decided to finally have some family time, so she's dragging me to the movies.. I don't know if I'll be home on time for phase change.. =.= Here's hoping that I'll be back on time to finish this and to place my vote. |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:28 AM
#625
Catch up is just too boring...so boring...okay, i'm going to finish... logic340 said: Sure clearly I am voting them because I think they are scum. However, that is not currently true.I no longer think that, but I did not like their entrance much. Actually I have never seen so man people agreeable in a series of pages before and that stood out to me. Like I can see the town block forming. I will update you on my read and probably change vote if I ever get to the end of this catch up.@Suzune-chan I hope you're enjoying your birthday weekend. Can you explain your vote in Coelestin please? |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:31 AM
#626
lastwhisper31 said: This is a false meta read. You have never once played the same way you played in Pscho-pass ever. That Whisper never came back one, I have played many games with you sense then and I have never seen that level of whisper. Usually it is a laid back whisper that you can push around a little because their emotions can tell more then their posts when it comes to reading them.Phraze said: Honestly idk, Ive been scum read in pretty much all my games regardless of how I played, and I believe that I play differently every time. At this point if you think I'm hindering town, thats understandable, I'm pretty bad at day 1 not gunna lie. Day 3 is usually when I pop off. Since I cant link the discord mafia, and honestly reading it would be stupid, and I dont believe it counts very much, so Ill just link the psycho pass game if you want to read it. You can at least check out my day 1. Psycho Pass MS Game@lastwhisper31 Did I really do that much omgus towards CP and Claire? I can see that coming in an arguement if your refering to me and Logic? All I did was RVS Claire, and I told her I was gunna do it. So you already read the 9 pages, and came to the consensus that my omgus posts mean I'm scum? Can you explain to me my what you mean by bounced accusations, Im trying to poke people, and honestly Logic suspects me every game so its nothing new, but I can say I was a little heated last night and jumped the boat on that vote. @Phraze, so exactly why are you voting me, again? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 20, 2017 10:34 AM
#627
Coelestin said: Yeah, Suzu will not be voting you probably when she gets to the end of the longest catch up in the world...aa-dono said: Coelestin said: Still staying on Phraze. It's not much, honestly, but I don't think people should forget this. Do you know why Suzu voted for you? Yeah, I don't think Mishu should be forgotten, but until recently, I had my vote on Arri (RVS) too. I don't see how it's much of a difference from Tingle not placing a vote so how come Tingle no-vote gets a neutral but Mishu's no-change is scummy? They are both pretty updated with the game. I guess you have a point there. There's one difference between the two I think... It just feels like Mishu is all talk without doing much. He just poked people slightly and let's them go. That's the impression I got so far, combined with the vote stuck on Phraze. Tingle actually makes cases on people, even if she's not voting (and she did say that she's more careful with her votes which is why she's not voting?). It's not like I won't judge her on her votes once she actually starts to place them, but what should I say about a stance like that? EDIT: and I have no clue why Suzu is voting for me... |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:40 AM
#628
aa-dono said: I wish I could tell you it was an amazing vote based on a lot of insight, but it was not really. Something rang me about their opening post and I was going to be gone and I thought, I'll put my vote here and come back and check it later and see how it is doing. Perhaps they would have started conversation with me or whatnot and they just didn't say anything so, alas, it was just a lost vote. @Suzune-chan You were somewhat caught up when you placed the vote on Coelestin. But Coel didn't post anything besides fluff in 1st page. So why was your vote there? Alright, I am kind of over the Whisper vs Logic game now. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 20, 2017 10:52 AM
#629
Suzune's reads, kind of.... 1. aa-dono - Slight Town ||There seems to be good town motivation and working here. Considers multiple viewpoints. 2. Last Slight Scum || Cannot seem to move on. Limited focal point. 3. Labs Neutral ||My initial game readings were positive, but they have kind of stopped posting. 4.. Claire I mean I would guess third. ||The way they are playing has caused me to pause and wonder. I just get mixed vibes from this slot. 5. Tingle Null/slight town || Their catch up posts had a lot of good points in them. 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. 8. CP slight town ||Despite initial problem with opening innocent child, that will realistically work itself out and while it took them a really long time to get over it, I think that they are probably still town. 9. AbuHumaid slight town ||Abu has been better lately and he seems to be very strong this game. 10. Maitai neutral ||I got nothing really here. 11. roz1roz neutral || I'm really interested to see if something happens because of what labs said. 12. Arrisu ||Not sure, i tend to swing back and forth with my read on them 13. Coelestin Slight town || While my initial vote was something to scoff at, I kind of feel like this one is probably town 14. Mishukax Null/?Slight scum || Just sensing something off about their posts. 15. Phraze Null/?Slight Scum, || Almost want to vote here but there is really nothing to throw darts at. Vote: Claire |
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Aug 20, 2017 10:54 AM
#630
Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... This could mean something, or nothing at all. But its not wrong to think this may be a hint as his role. I'm not trying to role fish here, its just something I thought. NAI Post Labs said: Mishukax said: CorruptedPurity said: Tfw there is a literal banner in large, bold words from the host giving me innocent child status and no one believes me... Some of us have a sad past with confirmed townies in bastard games. Some of us have bastard experience. Some of us are mafia trying do negate a townfirm in case it'd turn out useful. Chances are even some of us are the three of those. Dunno what Labs has in mind but I'm gonna listen to him. Are you still against someone claiming if he's getting lynched hard? Of-course I am.... why would someone be getting lynched in the first place, why wouldn't they just give us a decent reason not to eventually. Also it's a bastard Role-madness game, errbody guna have a role or more mixed into it, everyone's guna be just as useful in one way or another, so I wont really care unless it's some super dunk a nigg modded doctor.... and if that's the case they'd be fuhkked for claiming. I'd prefer someone who knows how to play the game for what it is instead. I like this post per say, I like the tone, but I dont believe every role can be useful unless used in the correct way. Also I cant tell if he is ok or not with lynching a town if he believes they are useful or not. All and All close to a town post for me. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Labs said: CorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. You don't know who is said role anyways..... right? Would anyone tho? Even mafia wouldnt know how said role, unless someone was a day cop. Don't understand his question here, I was just making a joke because I was the bomb role in one of the live mafia games before. NAI post imo Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. You don't know who is said role anyways..... right? Nope, I only know my role I can work with that then, would you NK yourself? Can't tell or not if he is making a joke or truly believes I have a NK role. Just to clarify I really don't. Hard to tell his alignment from this post. If he was mafia he'd want me dead, and if he was town, he'd also want me dead. So another NAI post Labs said: AbuHumaid said: lastwhisper31 said: AbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Me 3 I never asked him to say anything scummy unlike Abu. Possibly trying to hide his alignment under a shroud of jokes starting with this one. Possibly Scum Labs said: AbuHumaid said: lastwhisper31 said: AbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Me 3 2 times already, beating a dead horse I see. Scum senses tingling Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Its funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Let's just take our conversation to the mafia club instead :S And another one, but this time leads everyone to believe that I'm also mafia. Majika, I don't know what to think. But If I dont look at meta, then its a scum post. Labs said: Mishukax said: Gonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. Well... I get your point I guess, but you might not have to.... not for long Vote: Mishu Seems to think he caught something here, Why exactly did you vote mishu here. @labs. Do you think hes scum for jumping on the fact that he brought up u bringing up so many scum posts. Neutral Post, could be said by either alignment Labs said: Tingle said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me.I am glad you asked this cause I was contemplating alot about revealing my second ability or not. My Passive is "Best Town" - It does as what Ruu posted at the start of the thread. Host did warn me that people may not believe me because it was a bastard game though. Seems like his warning is true. I have another passive which can turn into an active under a set of conditions. What it is, what it can be and what the conditions are will be secret for now. Yeeaahhhh dis bold seems on point tbh. I don't see the host sticking their nose in the game like that...... I'd bet more on backwards meta fuhkking the roster, as per the repeat of not tagging said player with the whole best town insert. Edit: I cut the quote up wrong here.... wooops[/quote] Labs said: _Claire_ said: PS: as the phase change is always at 6 AM my time, it is next to impossible for me to be in any phase change at all. Cheers, I'll know to snipe you then <3 Ok with vote sniping, either a joke or another scum tell The important non fluff ones atleast I think, some have fluff, but fluff can speak words. P.S: This is not a repost, I added my opinions in bolded words under each of Lamby's posts In conclusion, If I dont read into meta game, then theres no reason to not vote him. and Honestly Ill just take my chances with this train, like Logic suggested. Trains dont start without a push. So, Vote: Labs Edit:Fixed the spoiler tag |
_WispAug 20, 2017 11:07 AM
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Aug 20, 2017 11:04 AM
#631
@logic340, with not even halfway I meant I just finished dono and that's the first person on my list.. It's also only my personal notes right now, can't get much out of it.. But sure... To describe my work process, I go over every page for each player separately and look at their posts.. Aa-dono. Pretty much all fluff, something that I can remember her doing when I played with her before a long time ago, it’s as ya’ll call it NAI to me, with 2-3 broad questions to people until page 5 when she posted the post in which she stated which posts she liked. aa-dono said: There’s nothing notably wrong with this post. Starting from this point she started questioning a bit more and gave out some +1s. She’s been portraying at least some town effort and I respect that. Because of her questionings we got some useful info as town. So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. 2. logic - Similar to above, though I only agree with some of the points on Last. I fluff a lot as a player so i don't really see Last's fluff as AI. Esp not this early. 3. Arrisu - I like her view on Claire's vote. Most likely town effort. aa-dono said: She’s explaining someone’s elses reasoning behind doing something. If she flips scum I know who to further investigate. CorruptedPurity said: aa-dono said: So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. 2. logic - Similar to above, though I only agree with some of the points on Last. I fluff a lot as a player so i don't really see Last's fluff as AI. Esp not this early. 3. Arrisu - I like her view on Claire's vote. Most likely town effort. 1. I agree but we must also consider her purpose. Did she do this to move out of RVS or does she really think that I, best town mind you, am scum? 2. I find alot of his arguments kind of weak though. Like you said with last, fluff aint alignment indicative. His push on Claire was better to read but it seems to forced. Is claire really scum or just misguided town? To just lump her in the scumread is too rash I think. But if it's anything, I do like him as townread. 3. I am not as sure about this. Before this, Ari is more questions less answers. Pinging people as asking them for their opinions without giving her own. It's like lazy scum trying to be active. His Claire push made sense though, that much I'll give. 1. I think she's using the announcement as a way to move forward with her reads. I don't really think she believes strongly that you're scum. Her posts sounds wary and it's really mostly others who said she's tunneling or focusing on you. From how I see it, she's been pushing Abu and logic as well. (maybe me too, not sure) So her vote and pushes are on town side of things. 2. How is it forced? 3. Hnn, I ask a lot of questions too. Maybe it's just that no one ask Arri much? aa-dono said: She kinda does it again here.. But she does finally give her explaination here..Coelestin said: Idk, I can think of reasons why it's a reasonable lead. Not that I want to share it, since it's her defense.aa-dono said: So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. Is it really good to grasp at ANY lead you can? It's not exactly even a legit one. But yeah, that vote is not scummy to me. aa-dono said: Coelestin said: Idk, I can think of reasons why it's a reasonable lead. Not that I want to share it, since it's her defense.aa-dono said: So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. Is it really good to grasp at ANY lead you can? It's not exactly even a legit one. But yeah, that vote is not scummy to me. aa-dono said: In the next post she describes her thoughts so far on page 11. She doesn’t get into too much detail, so her reads don’t really convince me. Coelestin said: Hn true.aa-dono said: Coelestin said: Idk, I can think of reasons why it's a reasonable lead. Not that I want to share it, since it's her defense.aa-dono said: So far, there are three votes that I like. 1. Claire - She grasp at whatever lead she can now, and already started to move out of RVS with her vote. Is it really good to grasp at ANY lead you can? It's not exactly even a legit one. But yeah, that vote is not scummy to me. Well, I actually am interested in your view on it, since she's already said enough about her own defense imo. Kind of sounds paradox that you like with Arrisu's reasons for the vote but also support Claire's vote. Here it is then: It was early phase, and not everyone posted yet. Iirc, she mentioned wanting to vote for RVS but has found a better lead. Playing in previous game, where Denja (haha) was the mafia innocent-child, it actually made sense that she finds pressuring CP over the role as a good lead. And Claire is a meta player. She made the post/vote somewhere in page 2-3. So yee, it was very early. Whether it's a good lead or not is subjective. I think it's NAI. She thinks it's worth pursuing. If she's scum, she could have just gone with RVS. In that early pages, what else would be considered a good lead? Everyone else went for RVS and tried to interact through that, she made an entrance with that. That's the gist of it. She's kinda neutral to me atm, so it feels weird defending her vote. aa-dono said: Decided to push a vote unto Mishu later this page. Which I respect, can’t let anyone pass under the radar. Still not really sure about her questions to people. They seem kinda broad, don’t know how to explain it. But it feels like questions that are easy to ask.. It makes her look like she’s trying to look like she’s helping. Might just be my gut playing games with me.Who knows. I like logic for town tbh. But not into yours and Coel's vote. I rather push Mishu since that's a sneaky perfect clean slot that fooled me before (and I'm certain he forgot about it). I kinda like that Chi knows the struggle of finding a way to pressure that slot. I'm liking Lamb for putting his vote on Mishu, but he didn't respond when I asked. I didn't get notifications from anyone I pinged too. So I'm not sure if they replied to me :/ I saw Last's list of Lamb's posts but that doesn't really tell me anything about why he suspected Lamb. What about Arri is scummy to you? |
Aug 20, 2017 11:19 AM
#632
logic340 said: Sorry if it was a misunderstanding but you said you wanted to see the progression of her vote, then you said you like her explanation for it. So imo, it makes no sense that you like an explanation for something you don't see (the progression or event).aa-dono said: ....another misunderstanding. I said nothing about liking her vote. Please let me know where you got that from?logic340 said: aa-dono said: check two posts up. I'll also refer you to post #423 my page 9 and 10 has a lot of answers to these questions I've been repeatedly asked.Ruu said: @logic340 what made Last scummier than Claire?1.3 Claire: Arrisu, Abu logic340: lastwhisper, Claire Mishukax: Labs Phraze: Mishukax Arrisu: aa-dono Coelestin: Suzune-chan lastwhisper: logic340, Phraze, Coelestin Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz Edit: The center tag. Btw, did you miss Coel's question: your current read on Claire or did I miss your answer to it? I tried to find it but I couldn't. logic340 said: ... and Coelestin I also have a positive opinion of but need to look at the progression in her vote on me and switch to whisper, I like her explanation for it but I need to see if that gels with what actually happened. I said that I have a positive feeling on her, meaning overall. One thing I need to look closer at is the progression in terms of her vote on me and move off me to whisper. I like the reason she gave for doing it but I need to verify that her actions match her words. I am caught up does that mean I remember every little detail of every interaction? Should I not go back and check shit to verify my feelings are legitimate? I don't understand how you people want me to play? Play how you want logic. It's just that you'll be read for that. If you can remember every little detail, then wow, I'd really admire your memory. But you took the time to reply to that post. It's not about you're saying you forgot or anything like that. But for you to remember that you like her vote progression, shouldn't you at least get the gist of what is it that you like about it? You provide none of it there. But alright. I'll wait this: I need to verify that her actions match her words. Again, you skipped the Claire question... |
Aug 20, 2017 11:23 AM
#633
Suzune-chan said: By meta behaviour, you have a point. Chances are, it's town!logic. Though with so many people telling logic how he acts as town, I rather be skeptical on meta. What do you mean by "to sort the things that logic does that are true from the biases that are created"?aa-dono said: Logic sees something he thinks is there. Last tends to go with the flow of what he has unless he becomes upset. So at this point it is probably town logic because he is on fire with what he believes but this is where it gets hardest to sort the things that logic does that are true from the biases that are created. Arrisu said: @_Claire_ - Fair enough. Besides, what do you think of Logic and Whisper's disagreement? @aa-dono - That goes for you as well. At the moment, none of them are town. I like that logic seems to pick up on things I find suspicious, but I don't think they're huge scum markers. As for Last, worth pressuring. Though chances are, you can't catch scum on him by inconsistencies in posts. Maybe off behaviour. His replies to Logic seems alright though. What do you make of them? |
Aug 20, 2017 11:23 AM
#634
Ruu said: I voted Mishu.1.3 Claire: Arrisu, Abu Mishukax: Labs Phraze: Mishukax, Claire Arrisu: aa-dono, Arrisu Coelestin: Suzune-chan lastwhisper: Coelestin roz1roz: logic340 Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz, lastwhisper 1. aa-dono > Arrisu 2. Last > Claire > Logic 3. Labs > CorruptivePurity > Mishukax 4.. Claire > CorruptivePurity > logic340 > Phraze 5. Tingle 6. logic340 > lastwhisper > Claire > lastwhisper > roz1roz 7. Suzune-chan > Coelestin 8. CorruptivePurity 9. AbuHumaid > logic340 > Claire 10. Maitai 11. roz1roz 12. Arrisu > Colestin > Claire 13. Coelestin > Mishukax > logic340 > lastwhisper 14. Mishukax > Phraze 15. Phraze > Mishukax > lastwhispe > Arrisur Mod comments: Please be kind to one another ~ |
Aug 20, 2017 11:31 AM
#635
Suzune-chan said: Suzune's reads, kind of.... 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. |
Aug 20, 2017 11:36 AM
#636
aa-dono said: Well logic tends to for biases that he is correct about something and as him and i share different perspectives all the time, I find it becomes frustrating to talk with him even if you have a good case on someone he likes for town it becomes such a hassle. Which is my only concern going forward is that logic is active and it ebcomes hard to talk around him. Suzune-chan said: By meta behaviour, you have a point. Chances are, it's town!logic. Though with so many people telling logic how he acts as town, I rather be skeptical on meta. What do you mean by "to sort the things that logic does that are true from the biases that are created"?aa-dono said: Arrisu said: I do want Last to be pressured. He;s one of those really fast learning player (but on the scummy side). Logic's aggression happens a lot. :/@_Claire_ - Fair enough. Besides, what do you think of Logic and Whisper's disagreement? @aa-dono - That goes for you as well. At the moment, none of them are town. I like that logic seems to pick up on things I find suspicious, but I don't think they're huge scum markers. As for Last, worth pressuring. Though chances are, you can't catch scum on him by inconsistencies in posts. Maybe off behaviour. His replies to Logic seems alright though. What do you make of them? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 20, 2017 11:37 AM
#637
MaiTai said: If he is unable to move on from what him and whisper are discussing, I will be forced to look at this read again, but that is where i stand at this moment. My reads are in no way locked rather that is where they are right now.Suzune-chan said: Suzune's reads, kind of.... 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Aug 20, 2017 11:37 AM
#638
Not really sure why you brought up NAI posts in your reads :/ lastwhisper31 said: Anyway here. I don't think any scum would do this tbh. It's just silly. It's hardly a slip since it shows clearly that they know they are posting in a non-mafia chat. So anyway I look at it, it's a joke :/Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Its funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Let's just take our conversation to the mafia club instead :S And another one, but this time leads everyone to believe that I'm also mafia. Majika, I don't know what to think. But If I dont look at meta, then its a scum post. So why do you think he's leading people to believe you're scum? Did you get nervous? |
Aug 20, 2017 11:47 AM
#639
MaiTai said: Suzune-chan said: Suzune's reads, kind of.... 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. Im not gunna pick on it currently anymore, I'll leave it for another day... |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 20, 2017 11:53 AM
#640
aa-dono said: I find "slip" to be the wrong word, it was either a joke or totally intentional, maybe to throw more oil on the already burning fire as they say. and I can tell you I'm in no way nervous, I can say that my anger did get the best of me in the previous couple days, but nervousness is something I'm not feeling right now. so out of all the posts I talked about, you quoted only one, and it was the one that I was part of, do you think I'm scum and lamby is my partner, and this is all some mind game? Also this is an ez stance to defend, because mafia would know if me and him were town, so it'd be easy to push on us. I mean ya theres always the slight possibility that me and him are both town, but we are not mafia together.Not really sure why you brought up NAI posts in your reads :/ lastwhisper31 said: Anyway here. I don't think any scum would do this tbh. It's just silly. It's hardly a slip since it shows clearly that they know they are posting in a non-mafia chat. So anyway I look at it, it's a joke :/Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Its funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Let's just take our conversation to the mafia club instead :S And another one, but this time leads everyone to believe that I'm also mafia. Majika, I don't know what to think. But If I dont look at meta, then its a scum post. So why do you think he's leading people to believe you're scum? Did you get nervous? |
blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Aug 20, 2017 11:53 AM
#641
aa-dono said: order of operations and series of events are very important. I feel like people look at one post and that's it when there is a whole chain of events going on with which the postss in quotation are related to. So I saw the vote on me I was surprised by it I stated this already. I wanted to see where things went then she quickly move to whisper. Which leads to me saying that I need to look at her progression there. Later on she explain to someone why she move from me to whisper. I like her explanation but I need to go back and look at her progression during the time that that move happened and see if those things gel. So basically what I'm getting at here is I'm trying to see if her explanation actually matches with her actions because I like the explanation but I'm not sure if the actions match up with it. I hope I've explained this in a way that you can understand now.logic340 said: Sorry if it was a misunderstanding but you said you wanted to see the progression of her vote, then you said you like her explanation for it. So imo, it makes no sense that you like an explanation for something you don't see (the progression or event).aa-dono said: logic340 said: Ok.aa-dono said: check two posts up. I'll also refer you to post #423 my page 9 and 10 has a lot of answers to these questions I've been repeatedly asked.Ruu said: @logic340 what made Last scummier than Claire?1.3 Claire: Arrisu, Abu logic340: lastwhisper, Claire Mishukax: Labs Phraze: Mishukax Arrisu: aa-dono Coelestin: Suzune-chan lastwhisper: logic340, Phraze, Coelestin Not voting: Tingle, CorruptivePurity, Maitai, roz1roz Edit: The center tag. Btw, did you miss Coel's question: your current read on Claire or did I miss your answer to it? I tried to find it but I couldn't. logic340 said: Weren't you caught up? How can you like her vote not knowing if it gels~?... and Coelestin I also have a positive opinion of but need to look at the progression in her vote on me and switch to whisper, I like her explanation for it but I need to see if that gels with what actually happened. I said that I have a positive feeling on her, meaning overall. One thing I need to look closer at is the progression in terms of her vote on me and move off me to whisper. I like the reason she gave for doing it but I need to verify that her actions match her words. I am caught up does that mean I remember every little detail of every interaction? Should I not go back and check shit to verify my feelings are legitimate? I don't understand how you people want me to play? Play how you want logic. It's just that you'll be read for that. If you can remember every little detail, then wow, I'd really admire your memory. But you took the time to reply to that post. It's not about you're saying you forgot or anything like that. But for you to remember that you like her vote progression, shouldn't you at least get the gist of what is it that you like about it? You provide none of it there. But alright. I'll wait this: I need to verify that her actions match her words. Again, you skipped the Claire question... You're still misunderstanding me!!! I never said anything about liking her vote progression I said I need to check on it and see if I like it or not. Because from my point of view I thought she was Town reading me next thing I know there was a vote from Coelestin on me. I never said I like to the vote or the progression I'm not sure where you got that from. What I did say is I liked her post explaining it but I need to verify if that is what her behavior actually shows. Honestly don't have a current read on Claire and I'm not going to force one for you right now. When I'm ready I will give it. Seeing as how you and Whisper have been scum buddies multiple times would you mind giving a read on him? |
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Aug 20, 2017 11:55 AM
#642
MaiTai said: this is the second time that I've seen you basically say that I'm scum with very little reasoning or anything of your own thought to support it. Why don't you go ahead and do that for us and also place a vote since you have a scum read.Suzune-chan said: Suzune's reads, kind of.... 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. |
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Aug 20, 2017 12:33 PM
#643
just gonna start here and not care about the last 2 pages gg @logic340 @Phraze why so against meta here when you were collecting meta for yourself previously? collecting and using meta are 2 dif thingsOverall I think I am neutral leaning scum on Phraze right now but knowing I have a hard time reading and understanding her mindset I wouldn't be surprised if this read is off. I would be willing to vote for her though as she needs to show more. srsly? I doubt u would want to waste time pressuring me after what happened with Last. shouldn't u have said save it for another day or smthing? voting me to show more is not the same as wanting to lynch me, meaning it'll be another longggg debate, and so near phase change no less. [edit: near for me since I'm around only around this time] I see some scummy intent there. seconding this:MaiTai said: Suzune-chan said: Suzune's reads, kind of.... 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. |
Aug 20, 2017 12:39 PM
#644
Phraze said: why does everybody want to question my conviction like if you want my vote you can go right there and I can push your Lynch. I think you guys are blowing this whole emotional thing out of proportion and the word victim is being used improperly. I've never played the victim role/card here I'll get into that shortly though.just gonna start here and not care about the last 2 pages gg @logic340 @Phraze why so against meta here when you were collecting meta for yourself previously? collecting and using meta are 2 dif thingsOverall I think I am neutral leaning scum on Phraze right now but knowing I have a hard time reading and understanding her mindset I wouldn't be surprised if this read is off. I would be willing to vote for her though as she needs to show more. srsly? I doubt u would want to waste time pressuring me after what happened with Last. shouldn't u have said save it for another day or smthing? voting me to show more is not the same as wanting to lynch me, meaning it'll be another longggg debate, and so near phase change no less. [edit: near for me since I'm around only around this time] I see some scummy intent there. seconding this:MaiTai said: Suzune-chan said: Suzune's reads, kind of.... 6. logic340 Probably Town ||His victimized concept is his towniness showing. I don't have meta to go off of, but I am not thoroughly convinced about logic, and I still get a slight scum vibe, especially with the victimizing. That's just me. What is the scum intent that you say you see? Please elaborate for us. Also your suspicions seem a little OMGUS timing wise. Common theme in games I've been in lately. |
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Aug 20, 2017 12:49 PM
#645
If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper |
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Aug 20, 2017 12:53 PM
#646
so erm... I feel like Mishukax and Labs dropped off the radar. where the fudge is Mish when his vote is on me too. what's the point of voting me when his only question is if I will change my rvs vote? I'll definitely switch back to that if he's rly that off radar Labs give me headaches |
Aug 20, 2017 1:05 PM
#647
Phraze said: Labs is never here on weekends so that is nothing new. I am surprised we got as much as we did Friday before he left. We have that much to go over which is more than we have from you/roz/MaiTai have done to this point.so erm... I feel like Mishukax and Labs dropped off the radar. where the fudge is Mish when his vote is on me too. what's the point of voting me when his only question is if I will change my rvs vote? I'll definitely switch back to that if he's rly that off radar Labs give me headaches Mishukax I will need to look into more. I remember one post standing out as townie to me (I believe I quoted it). Other than that he doesn't leave much of an impression and I am not seeing the usual big early play from him which is NAI anyway. |
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Aug 20, 2017 1:12 PM
#648
Okay I found time for phase change and I am willing to work alongside my biggest town reads to get a lynch through (within reasons of my own reads of course.) @Coelestin - Here is my reads list for D1. This goes for anybody else interested. Town - Logic: Logic is being a genuine town by trying to get everyone to work together. He pressures, feels frustration when things aren't going as planned (which is typical for town) and provides wonderful insight. I like what he offers at the table. - Coelestin: I feel confident enough in my read on Chi to be able to tell when she is town. Also, her reads list made sense to me and I agree with much of her perspective. - CorruptedPurity: Despite the rough beginning, he is actively questioning other players. I leave him in town as of D1 but I'd like to personally reevaluate my read on his the next day phase. Slight Town - aa-dono: Correct me if I am wrong but she stayed in RVS for quite a while before moving on with her vote. Which hasn't been switched yet (@Ruu @Kaitou). Otherwise, I feel a Dono town vibe from. I am mostly meta reading her at this point in time. - Mishukax: I haven't played with this player much but again, I like his perceptive on the game thus far. - Tingle: Tingle isn't a player that typically posts often but what she has posted is genuine town effort. I'd like to see more of her thoughts. Neutral - LastWhisper31: I'll be honest, I didn't focus much on him since one of my town reads was pushing him so much. Therefore I did not deeply analyse his posts. Needs to be reevaluated. - Labs: Can't read Lamby. I need time. He's like an abstract painting. - Suzune: It was her birthday and so she couldn't be too active. I like what she posted thus far but it isn't enough to give me any type of read on her. - AbuHumaid: Him stating he is scum is null. I don't know his meta and I feel as though he lacks any real pressuring. Scummy Scums - Phraze: Comes in half way through D1 and gives a half-ass reason for a vote. At this point, he/she should have had more insight from everything that happened. Not to mention he doesn't bother pressuring fellow players and simply comments. Lazy scum is lazy. - Claire: Less scummy than before but I'm not willing to let her go for her early phase behaviour. I want to reevaluate her next phase, since I tend to have scum reads on town Claire. - roz1roz: Claims TPR and doesn't help town at all. - MaiTai: Similar behaviour to Phraze. Doesn't seem interested in scumhunting. Barely bothers to pressure. Now with this information, I am willing to lynch any player within my scum reads alongside town. Neutrals can be convinced but may require some hard convincing to do so. So Town, who will we be lynching today? |
Aug 20, 2017 1:13 PM
#649
@logic340 What is the scum intent that you say you see? Please elaborate for us. Also your suspicions seem a little OMGUS timing wise. Common theme in games I've been in lately. I alrdy explained it. for u to suggest looking into me more is the same as looking for another Last to debate with. look for someone substantial to interrogate pls, not someone who's 'hard to read'. for u to suggest that is scummy in itself, moreso when u admitted that u can't understand me easily. why not go for the better targets in ur PoE, that u can easily understand?Willing to lynch: ok. what are the reasons for each? is Last ur 1st choice or 2nd? are u still sure about Last after the debate, or just going with the next easiest target in ur lynch pool? actually, where do I rank in this lol. shouldn't u be going after ur first choice target? lack of conviction, which u also claim to have, is kinda vague with all this infoRoz/Phraze/whisper |
Aug 20, 2017 1:15 PM
#650
logic340 said: If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper Yee boi~ Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. |
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