Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: I have to say I fully support Yuki x Akise cause Yuno was a total BITCH in this episode that needs to be put down like a wild animal that eat everyone up. More like, Akise is the same as Yuno. Only the anime changed things around a bit that made Akise seem even more sympathetic. In the manga he reveals his future diary BEFORE she attacks him. Total BS that they changed this VERY important part in the anime. I hope they fix it for the Blue Ray Edition.
It' odd though, they made Yukki less sympathetic. he shot Hinata even though she wasn't in front of 8th. In the manga she was blocking 8ths body with her own. Exactly hence why I mention it was not good they changed that part totally not just a little.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: I RAGED so bad! I think it over 1 billion if it had to be said. I needed to take a break with a cigarette and relax. I drenched myself in tears and I screamed out WHY DID YOU DO THIS YUKI! THEY ARE YOUR FRIENDS! THEY WERE ALWAYS GOOD TO YOU! WHY! Isn't that obvious? because Akise HAD tricked Yukki's friends into betraying Yukki... that and they DID betray Yukki even if their intentions might have been good. Yukki really do needs to kill 8th no matter what. Even if he can't bring anyone back if he doesn't kill 8th then the WHOLE world will be destroyed and EVERYONE will die. So that is why Yukki had to kill them.
Funny though. While him killing Hinata was less excusable, him killing Mao was actually given more of a reason. In the manga she just stands there and says things he doesn't want to hear so he kills her. In the Anime at least she pick up a rock. I mean she wasn't much of a threat but at least more so than she was in the manga. I agree with this however I think he should have though things better and explain things more. He got himself influenced like he was totally not himself and under paranoia effects of mass panic or as Mao said fear itself of the truth. My point is that they did not betray Yuki ever and that his reasoning totally betrayed his friends hence killing them in the end.Yavie said: Anyway --
Akise really was a bad person making wild guesses. He had absolutely NOTHING to support his premise that Yuno wanted to kill Yukki, hell not even when he realized the thing about the diaries does he have a reason to think this. He had every premise to support his claims that Yuno has killed him eventually in the past to achieve what she did in this world since she is not of it as Akise figures out. So he had every cause to suspect at least what Yuno had to do to become what she is. He was about to tell to Yuki but alas that looks like it won't happen since he dies.He would but I think it would be differently formulated as in being used most likely or at the very least it would come into mind to him that it was that kind of form. There is love and there is obsession.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: The pinning down of Yuno was perfect and it sure gave Akise a superiority sense. Really? It just made him look like a bit of a rapist in my opinion. I don't see how a scene like is supposed to make him look cool. He is a boy pinning down a 14 year old girl, never mind that he probably has inhuman strength given to him by Deus because of him being an observer. Perhaps but to me it gave him a sense of being better that Yuno who was giving out the clear superiority. He was certainly not giving way as being a rapist in this case nor Akise even gave out any signs of being so nor impression of it at all.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said:FUCK YOU YUNO! GO DIE! Furthermore despite the Diary destroyed here, she fucking smiled cause she knows better having all these extra diaries and concealing them. I don't know where the hate is coming from. she pawned Akise even though he was using the most HAXX cheating diary ever+his superior strength. She was smarter and better than him. He was being a jealous yandere himself having NOT proof at all that what he thought was real. He just believed she was going to kill Yukki because he was jealous. So he was going to kill her out of jealousy... had even tricked Yukki's friends into helping him keep 8th safe. So when Yuno comes (even though his own diary says nothing about her coming after Yukki) he says he will kill Yuno. What a nice guy. No, that guy deserved to die because he was putting Yukki in danger because of his own twisted love. At least Yuno's love was putting Yukki in safety.
As for the smile... wouldn't you smile if a guy like that tried to kill you and you outsmarted him and his HAXX cheat code diary? Perhaps but Yuno at that moment was just being a plain BITCH cause she knew of her superiority and that smile proved like a big snort towards all this. The hatred is for having just tricked Yuki into killing his friends. It comes also as what they coin being a SMART-ASS and Yuno was exactly that. Akise wanted to kill Yuno because he knows 8th does not deserve to die nor Yuki being tricked by her, who most likely already is just using Yuki as a shell. From how Hinata explains things, that is what Yuki is. A shell. No soul.Because she knows and no she would be the new from the old Universe and this one she should be nothing but as a side. Sadly that is the Bitch part of it, clearly being superior to others while snorting them with that superiority as they are blind to the true force of that superiority.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: Fucking kid punk kills Hinata True, she had become a good person... but this is still the same Hinata that had planned to let her fathers dogs rip apart Akise, Yukki, Yuno and Kousaka. Don't forget that Yuno could have killed Hinata back then and really should if it hadn't been for Yukki. I agree but no Hinata did change after the dog incident and was being truthful till the end. Hence why I value her a lot.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: Kousaka was a man Yeah, Kousaka grew from a boy into man and finally had a real shinning moment. After all Kousaka is the same guy that grabbed Yukki and was about to sacrifice him in episode too in order to not get killed by 9th and her bombs. So I guess this is a case of a character finally redeeming themselves? Indeed he did redeem himself but ever since he saved Yuki, in fact he redeemed himself when he took leadership in saving them from the dogs.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: stabbing yourself with a smile and the blood splatter? Oh WTF mindfuck of Yuno alright. This part was really poorly done in the anime. In the manga they showed Yuno calling Yukki and she was lying in a pool of her own blood. We only got to know what had happened after we saw Akise have a flashback. This allowed readers to think for at least a little while that it really had happened the way she said it had.
Another bad part is that she said that Akise was killing her -- which was also bad. In the manga she said Akise was coming to kill him. What she said in the manga actually served a purpose while what she said in the manga might have actually made Yukki leave his pursuit of 8th to come and try save her. It could have been but I think the way they made was to show how much of a BITCH she really is. It totally showed her bitchy attitude in terms of deceiving Yuki and faking everything. As much as the manga. In the manga it gave out a different feeling but that is because of the setup. Had they not changed anything, it might have been kept as it was in the manga.Yavie said: hmm... why had Akise undone the belt of Yuno's pants as well as the button? she was stabbed in the side of her stomach after all... Ah Akise you perverted hentai! (joke) I don't think he would do it, maybe he though there was some weapon around? I doubt he would do it though. ROFL.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: They removed the picnic part Sad... It was such a cute scene that helped establish the mentality both Yuno and Yukki had at the time. When Akise betrayed them it had more of an impact since Yukki and Yuno not much earlier had been sitting on a hill finally having a calm loving moment. Yes, it did help in character forging so to speak.
Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: In conclusion, I am pretty much happy with Akise in general as is. Of course... but that is because this episode lessened the scenes where he looked more of a villain. (which he somewhat did in the manga) In the manga it wasn't THAT obvious that he was right. (even though he was just lucky in his yandere guess) I got the feeling in the manga Akise was more mysterious yes but not threatening. Not at all in fact. I always had a feeling he was trying to help Yuki in a mysterious way.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: It was a most RAGING episode to me. That being said in general Mirai Nikki continues to impress with its setups and animations of many scenes previously not having impacts such as now when things are animated. I don't agree with you. This episode WAS better than say ep 21, and certainly ep 20... But to me the manga version was MUCH better. Only Kousaka's scene was better done in the anime. OK, I agree some setups turned out better with more details such as in this episode but you do know certain manga parts were totally advanced by the anime mainly due to the animation of certain of its parts that made those parts look better than the manga itself could pull out. Some decors are far better too with the colors in the anime. So I can't exactly argue as each has its own strong points but this episode in terms of SFX and impact WAS BETTER THAN THE MANGA TBH.Yavie said: To Akise fans however I think the anime version would have more of an impact because like mentioned -- the anime changes things around to make Akise seem more sympathetic than he really is. Indeed and in that you are right.Yavie said: To me however I dislike the anime version because of precisely this. It is to angled/geared towards making Akise look like something he never was. It sacrifices the feel of the whole series in order to let one character shine more. However I don't see as bad because of the different feel it gave out, Akise was much better and likable. In the manga he was a little stoic so to speak. In the anime he looked more lively TBH.Yavie said:Yumekichi11 said: I envy all who don't give a fuck of those 4 people cause it could have been the easiest episode for you to go through. Nah, I liked Akise in a way... but he was never that good of a character. In the first place he always seemed out of place because he just showed up randomly and interfered. He was kind of like a yaoi fan service? boy love hooyay!
Maybe if he had actually interacted more with everyone else he would have been better? Maybe if they had made him interact more with Yuno? Nah, I think it would have been better if they did make more interactions of him with other characters but most of all with Yuki. BL? Sure why not, at least some gays are far far better in relations than some couples TBH.Yavie said: Hinata? Well she had big breasts... that was her only redeeming feature I think... Naturally since she had a crush on Yukki she practically would JUMP on the idea that Yuno was bad. So I don't have any sympathy for her. Her "sacrifice" in this episode was actually selfish. She just wanted Yukki for herself and as usual she used Mao's love for her to have he come along. Her character was funny too you know. Not just the body. She also had some form of courage. Hinata at first was like that with the crush but she changed later on. Of course she always though she was better than Yuno. I for one agree cause she had a better personality and on top of that treated Yuki in a less stressful way for him. Thus he felt more comfortable around her. I don't agree she wanted Yuki for herself. She wanted to make him realize that it's not him but Yuno using him and that the truth is layed out.Yavie said: Mao? She was a crazy lesbian yandere but I feel sorry for her more-so than the other four "friends". IN a way she was just a more stable Yuno. IN regards towards Hinata, yes. Mao in general had a funny personality.Yavie said: Kousaka? umm... well he was a joke character. Kind of felt he was put in there as canon fodder and because he had accidentally been given to much screen time for him to die off screen. ROFL! NO! I think he really was the kick in the ass for Yuki. He bullied him before, he changed and in thee end he was more on Yuki's side and wanted to help him. He was going to not get in his way but that punch was really a wake up call!Yavie said: Anyway you really shouldn't rage in your op posts. I think you can rage in your following posts but to rage in the op post kind of is like forcing your will on other readers. NO! Because being honest never forces anything on anyone. I was just being true to how I felt in this episode and discussions having a honest feelings are sometimes so much better IMO.
Well glad to have replies to you, not often there is fun like with you. Do know they are just IMOs. |