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| Touma didn't do much this arc and not much Index either which was good. the best part was Accelerator breaking that bitches face. ok but not great arc. biribiri and Touma had like no interaction to. oh well next time looks more interesting. |
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Confucius said: Someone explain to me who is going to clean up that mess Accelerator made? I'm sure all those stupid self automated robots will have a hand on it... Either way, Accelerator was great, I hope to see more of him in future episodes. |
SinfulZero said: is there going to be more women abuse next arc? cuz DIS GURL GOT ER AIR KNOCKED OUTT and her nose is definitely broken. 5/5 just for the accelerator part i watched it over and over A man striking a woman is not automatically abuse. Abuse happens over an extended period of time and involves heavy amounts of mental domineering. Generally there is a relationship in place that is being manipulated to twist her into something meek and submissive. It involves social isolation and all sorts of nasty shit. As serious an issue as abuse is, that's now what we just saw. We saw combat. Plain and simple. Same as if any woman got shot in a warzone, or got struck while participating in gang based turf wars, or any number of similar situations. She knowingly made powerful enemies, and got hurt because of it. I think it was alex who said something about the problem with man on woman combat being the discrepancy in muscle mass. Combat here relies very little on muscle mass, and even if it did it's a situation where a fair fight isn't really relevant. It's not a friendly sparing tournament. She's stealing top secret military grade government property. Even with all that aside, were she a male it wouldn't have made a difference, as the discrepancy in power had the odds stacked ridiculously against move point girl. Plus she was already injured. The difference in muscle mass between genders is about the furthest thing from relevant right now. |
| Wow. That was one amazing episode. Teleporter battle, Misaka clones, Touma jumping across chunks of a building, and especially the part with Accelerator. VECTOR PAUNCH. The arc itself was fairly decent imo, but I still loved it because the Science side characters made an appearance. Even better, Kuroko wasn't being annoying, and Last Order shows up again. The part where she's talking to herself is cute~ 5/5 episode for sure. Also, I noticed something interesting. While Accelerator was beating the crap out of Awaki (lol :D), he says something along the lines of "There is now only one way to proceed from here", and says "Ippo Tsuko" (One-Way Road) somewhere in the sentence. Is that a reference to his name, or is it just me? |
| Wow, WTF, what a violent episode? Watching lolis kick their own asses like that was PURE WIN, I couldnt' avoid wanting more... but a dude, overpowered hitting a girl like that? I can't accept that. If he was weaker and she a Super Saiyan I would laugh, but like this is idk. There are a few things I don't quite understand: - Why did Accelerator kick the bad girl's ass so hard? Did he have something against her from before, or something? I don't see the connection. - Is she dead? I mean, hitting the wall of a building at that distance can't possibly leave someone alive... not to mention the subsequent fall. - Why did Biribiri shoot her Railgun at that building? In which way was it needed? |
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| I need moar last order. She's all hng and shit. Index2 is proving to be overflowing with loli violence. I can't say it wasn't somewhat uncomfortable, but I can say it was definitely awesome. |
| Having read the novel, I think the arc would've been better if was at least 3 eps. The scene about Kuroko rejecting Awaki's offer and how she states how foolish it was should've had more dialogue in it. (it was Kuroko's crowning moment of awesome in that scene too. :( ) The very reason why Awaki snapped after shooting Kuroko was because of the fact that she kept on blaming about not wanting to hurt anyone because of her abilities yet she still ended up hurting someone without the use of her power. I was quite disappointed by how rushed the arc was, though I loved how certain scenes were greatly adapted from the novel (like the way Awaki snapped, the conversation of the SISTERs and Accelerator being badass with his Falcon Vector punch) except for the part where Misaka opened the way for Touma to save Kuroko, I think it lacked some detail there. I like Awaki especially in the later volumes, but I think she really deserved that in the end of that arc. It still was a good watch so I'd give the ep a 7/10. |
Shiki63Nov 20, 2010 4:07 AM
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UnknownFact said: He kicked her ass so hard because he had been asked to take her down. He doesn't go easy with this shit, unless he's having fun, but then that's more of a sadism thing than mercy.Wow, WTF, what a violent episode? Watching lolis kick their own asses like that was PURE WIN, I couldnt' avoid wanting more... but a dude, overpowered hitting a girl like that? I can't accept that. If he was weaker and she a Super Saiyan I would laugh, but like this is idk. There are a few things I don't quite understand: - Why did Accelerator kick the bad girl's ass so hard? Did he have something against her from before, or something? I don't see the connection. - Is she dead? I mean, hitting the wall of a building at that distance can't possibly leave someone alive... not to mention the subsequent fall. - Why did Biribiri shoot her Railgun at that building? In which way was it needed? I don't know if she's dead or not. Touma mentioned her being beat up though, not dead. I imagine if he'd found a body, or he couldn't get her medical attention he would have stated that directly. Misaka had to shoot the railgun to create the opening and the bridge so touma could get up there. Not enough time to take the stairs. A little bit ridiculous? Probably. Keeping in mind the subject matter of the show we're watching, and the rule of cool, I think it's within acceptable limits. Maybe pushing them a bit. One of those things where the ridiculousness of it didn't hit me for a while until after the initial read though. |
| yeah more biriri is always nice. I like how they make a connection between the animes. |
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| Thanks Gangler. Yeah it's implied that she did not die. But if she's human, she should have. I agree with Shiki 63, the scene where "Misaka opened the way for Touma to save Kuroko" lacked detail. Yeah... it's still a bit ridiculous use of power though... but oh well. Tnx |
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| It's always been an unwritten rule in shonen anime that if you're strong enough, defenses will adjust accordingly. I like to think of it as a hitpoint system. It explains why some characters can survive things like impaling, or the loss of multiple galons of blood without medical assistance, despite in theory being biologically human. Admittedly this is the first instance of index using this principle though. The show is better when it keeps the damage real seeming, as rediculous as that may sound. Once they start shrugging off mortal wounds it ruins the suspense of all the injuries incurred during battle. Personally, I'm betting she got some alone time with the heaven canceler. Yes she should have been dead long before medical aid could be an issue, but this would still bring it within acceptable levels for me. |
| Best ep so far, imho. I think that Index II is somehow versus female characters too, lol. |
SinfulZero said: Yeah same her and I noticed that the way those things on his back that make fly were it looked like he had 4 devil wings. It can makes you think that only evil people tend to hurt women but to me he is more of the "Devil may cry" and the cry is being merciful/nice at time.I watched it over and over Gangler said: Gangler said: Accelerator earned his sadism from the clone killings no human being in his mind would be normal after killing 10 000 clones that have the same result as if you killed a human being. Sadism was a coping way for him not to go insane. I though he figured it out more than anything from chibi Misaka.He kicked her ass so hard because he had been asked to take her down. He doesn't go easy with this shit, unless he's having fun, but then that's more of a sadism thing than mercy. Gangler said: I think it was more she KO and recovered only to escape and report perhaps to what remains of the science syndicate.I don't know if she's dead or not. Touma mentioned her being beat up though, not dead. I imagine if he'd found a body, or he couldn't get her medical attention he would have stated that directly. Gangler said: It was ridiculous but she knew very well Touma could cancel it and trusted with her life Touma's ability. Misaka had to shoot the railgun to create the opening and the bridge so touma could get up there. Not enough time to take the stairs. A little bit ridiculous? Probably. Gangler said: To me it was realizing that Kuroko might have suffered far more abuse at the end of LN to be sterile and not have kids. Perhaps she knows that and goes with Yuri, knowing fully she could never have kids already, a sad possibility after she got kicked the way Musujime did to her in this episode.. One of those things where the ridiculousness of it didn't hit me for a while until after the initial read though. |
Shiki63 said: HThe very reason why Awaki snapped after shooting Kuroko was because of the fact that she on blaming about not wanting to hurt anyone because of her abilities yet she still ended up hurting someone without the use of her power. Thanks for stating that quite succinctly. I had assumed she used Move Point to teleport the gun to her (thus using her power). I had no idea she had a gun on her the whole time and thus didn't use her power. She didn't seem like the person who wouldn't want to hurt someone. I mean, she really hated the Ace of Tokiwadai, and people with those sorts of grudges usually want to hut others... so it just struck me as... odd? Out of character? Yeah there we go. It seemed really out of character for Awaki to sputter on about that having never mentioned it in any of her other crazy conversations. |
Meddigo said: I also assumed but then where does not LN even hint at her having that gun on her? I did not see a place where she could have it. I do giver her props to showing us her nice breasts (at least the shape was always visible). Shiki63 said: Thanks for stating that quite succinctly. I had assumed she used Move Point to teleport the gun to her (thus using her power). I had no idea she had a gun on her the whole time and thus didn't use her power.HThe very reason why Awaki snapped after shooting Kuroko was because of the fact that she on blaming about not wanting to hurt anyone because of her abilities yet she still ended up hurting someone without the use of her power. Meddigo said: I though her theories was great in regards to transfer the abilities or create chaos through animal abilities, now that would be whole different level of world reality should animals have the abilities of humans not wanting them.She didn't seem like the person who wouldn't want to hurt someone. |
| Sooo when did Touma get super powers and lightning fast reflexes so he could jump trough a mess of falling debris, supporting his steps upwards, which defies the law of gravity altogether since they are, well falling^^ And then easilly with one hand, stop a massive piece of concrete, weighing at least several hundred kilos (low estimate) And don't give me the "they where hovering due to Awaki's power", as far as I could tell she was merely 'shaking' the building making it collapse. And if the pieces actually where to float, well then Touma would be seriously dead as soon as he nudged that concrete^^ Here I thought this was supposed to be a "science" arc -.-' Really there's always such a massive quality drop as soon Touma enters the picture, imho Index and Touma should stick to decorating the DVDs and possibly appearing in the ED. |
| great ep best of the season so far |
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| What a load of crap this was. The arc started off great, but then the Move Point girl went nuts out of fucking nowhere and everything just... I don't even know how to describe it. It was complete shit. 3/5, because of the glorious amount of Kuroko. And I've been wondering for a while now... Was Index I just as bad as Index II? If that's the case, why the hell did I like Index I? |
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EternalDreamer said: I don't know about that one but it looked to make Touma a epic hero! Which clearly is exaggerated as much as in Railgun with that graviton arc. Got to admit that the OST there was top notch! Also was the OST amazing when Misaka clone knocked on Touma's door till Touma meets Biribiri.Sooo when did Touma get super powers and lightning fast reflexes so he could jump trough a mess of falling debris, supporting his steps upwards, which defies the law of gravity altogether since they are, well falling^^ EternalDreamer said: I think it was already affected with Misaka's or Awaki's ability is the nullification went together with concrete block.And then easily with one hand, stop a massive piece of concrete, weighing at least several hundred kilos (low estimate) |
Yumekichi11Nov 20, 2010 3:34 AM
Awesome accelerator finally shows up and he is doing some kick-ass action(although i feel sorry for that girl, getting punch in the face and ended up like that)!!! |
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| Accelerator FTW even flying xD |
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| Loved the moment with touma fighting along side misaka. EPIC I wanna see more.!!!! |
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| I loved this episode. Everything I wanted and didn't get from Railgun I got from just 2 episodes of Index II. Wonderful, now Railgun season 1 is almost void to me. Totally loled at Accelerator giving Awaki a vector punch into a building in mid air, after shattering a great chunk of the road all the windows nearby. Freaking awesome dude. Touma got some cool points for running on falling rubble to save Lesboko, I mean Kuroko, who incidentally had some good parts herself this episode. Aww hell, Accelarator, the Misaka Network, Les-..Kuroko and Touma all had good parts. Sparky just shot a railgun, nothing new here. Also, I couldn't help but imagine the scene of Awaki shooting Kuroko as some sort of response to her VA talking over the characters lines in Ookami-san. It had "Shut up, I'm trying to listen to the characters! *shoots*" written all over it imo XD. |
KantarouNov 20, 2010 5:34 AM
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| I lack better terms, so: MFW!! But... how can Accelerator talk normal speed in slo-mo surroundings? xD They can't help it, I guess. Also I thought the smile at the end was really KH style 8) J.C. Staff, keep this up! |
| Jesus Christ, I'd forgotten how awesome that guy is. |
Arcangel92 said: hate to say it but touma still more badass than accel imo alexcampos said: Umm.....NO, you're either insane or not paying attention. Uhmm yes? you know this is my opinion right?... your taking this too seriously.. Touma > Accelerator, but not by much |
| Awesome episode. But poor girl she got punched in the face by Accelerator. |
Divine_Judgement said: Yes! This is exactly another good thing about him. He just says something and proceeds to do it! More impulsive and less formal but that's what is unique in his character.Accelerator is cool because he's seemingly the only character who doesn't have to give bullshit speeches before proceeding to kick the shit out of someone. |
| Awaki - almost killed Kuroko... 5/5 Kuroko - great, no "lesbian" moments.. 5/5 Misaka - that railgun shot was rather expected... 4/5 Index - huh?! seriously, what are YOU doing in this episode?! 2/5 Touma - nah, your job wasn't really impressive... 3/5 Accelerator - FUCK YEAH!!! 6/5 overall, the episode was awesome.. this arc is so far the best in season 2... also, i kinda expected the arc to be a bit short... next arc's got Misaka Misuzu, Fukiyose Seiri (yey!), and Oriana Thompson... quite exciting... :)) |
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| Ouch. I hope Awaki gets well soon. D: |
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| Accelerator! Accelerator! *screams* Abrupt ending of the arc. |
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| Sorry but my memory is kind of hazy, How did Accelerator lose some of his powers again? |
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| Awaki 's berserk...at least her eye doesn't shoot laser. Kuroko suddenly can't teleport for no reason Misaka 's dangerous rail-gun shooting at random location ... Touma become Ninja of the week ... ninpou ashigaru ;p index 's random head biting, hope she will be useful next episode. Accelerator ...got tornado wing and How the hell he can find Awaki 0.0 (and the street is empty..weird~~) nice action and cool animation ^_^ 5/5 |
MorningGloryNov 20, 2010 9:24 AM
Ampharos said: Sorry but my memory is kind of hazy, How did Accelerator lose some of his powers again? If I remember right, he got shot point blank and the bullet went through the computational/mathematical area of his brain. As to why he got shot, well he was trying to stop the virus that had infiltrated the Misaka Network. |
| Accelerator is so badass. I'm finally starting to see his appeal lol. |
MorningGlory said: No, it's because the pain causes her to lose concentration and she looks to be really bad at it with pain. So her teleportation has total lack of concentration therefore she can't activate or execute it properly.Kuroko suddenly can't teleport for no reason. |
Meddigo said: Ampharos said: Sorry but my memory is kind of hazy, How did Accelerator lose some of his powers again? If I remember right, he got shot point blank and the bullet went through the computational/mathematical area of his brain. As to why he got shot, well he was trying to stop the virus that had infiltrated the Misaka Network. Thanks I think I vaguely remember something like that. |
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Yumekichi11 said: ty,I think i miss that part ...it seem like the same scene I watch in the last episode.Kuroko being smash,and Awaki start lecture .No, it's because the pain causes her to lose concentration and she looks to be really bad at it with pain. So her teleportation has total lack of concentration therefore she can't activate or execute it properly. |
| This last two episodes where really awesome. Let's hope that we won't go back to anything that involves Index having a big role. That punch was so nice. That killer bitch deserved it. A little sad Kuroko lost for the second time but for a person usually making lesbian airhead jokes she showed that she's in reality very mature, her preach on how hurting others has nothing to do with abilities or not, was very sensible. You can be a monster whether you have abilities or not. Gangler said: It's always been an unwritten rule in shonen anime that if you're strong enough, defenses will adjust accordingly. I like to think of it as a hitpoint system. It explains why some characters can survive things like impaling, or the loss of multiple galons of blood without medical assistance, despite in theory being biologically human. Admittedly this is the first instance of index using this principle though. The show is better when it keeps the damage real seeming, as rediculous as that may sound. Once they start shrugging off mortal wounds it ruins the suspense of all the injuries incurred during battle. Personally, I'm betting she got some alone time with the heaven canceler. Yes she should have been dead long before medical aid could be an issue, but this would still bring it within acceptable levels for me. I don't think that unwritten rule really goes for this scene though o that she should have died. If she ended in the hospital is realistic enough. So what if she hit the wall a little fast? We have heard of people in real life falling from the third even fifth floor of a building and surviving and that is worse than hitting a wall after a strong punch, so reality isn't as fragile as many people think ether. It's just that reality is so complex that you can survive some crazy shit but die by a small cut if it hits you in the wrong spot. Hell a friend of mine was hit by a car going quite fast and he didn't even broke a bone while the car looked like a mess. We where all wondering how that was possible and yet it was real. And the same person can get hurt from a lot smaller incidents. Real life is strange like that because it's full of variables. |
MonadNov 20, 2010 10:41 AM
| ^ Unfortunately the title is called Toaru Majutsu no Index II If index ain't moving the story won't move as well >.>" |
Yumekichi11 said: No, it's because the pain causes her to lose concentration and she looks to be really bad at it with pain. So her teleportation has total lack of concentration therefore she can't activate or execute it properly. I'm unclear about some of that too - wasn't the fork in the gun Kuroko's doing? Or was it the result of Awaki losing control over her power for a moment? Or I guess it's just a lot easier to teleport a fork than herself? |
Papajan said: Just a result of the out of control Awaki I assume. Kuroko was down and out.Yumekichi11 said: No, it's because the pain causes her to lose concentration and she looks to be really bad at it with pain. So her teleportation has total lack of concentration therefore she can't activate or execute it properly. I'm unclear about some of that too - wasn't the fork in the gun Kuroko's doing? Or was it the result of Awaki losing control over her power for a moment? Or I guess it's just a lot easier to teleport a fork than herself? Also, for everyone asking, Accelerator showing up was not random at all. Just like the other Misaka clone came to Touma and Mikoto for help, Last Order must have mentioned the situation to Accelerator. |
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Monad said: True. True. There are all sorts of records of people surviving ridiculous shit. She did however hit her head pretty bad when she went up against that wall. That always has repurcussions. Plus after that she did have to fall back down to the ground. I didn't get the impression this was only a second story fall. They were pretty high. Not to mention that it would probably have reopened all the wounds she recieved while fighting kuroko. She was in an enfeebled state from trying to teleport herself so many times despite her trauma, as evidenced by her midair vomit. Plus judgeing from how the road was warped with his movements and all the property damage in general the initial punch itself wasn't exactly gentle, so two heavy blows to the head in rapid succession. She was also not in a state to control her landing, so a third blow to the head is almost a certainty. This last two episodes where really awesome. Let's hope that we won't go back to anything that involves Index having a big role. That punch was so nice. That killer bitch deserved it. A little sad Kuroko lost for the second time but for a person usually making lesbian airhead jokes she showed that she's in reality very mature, her preach on how hurting others has nothing to do with abilities or not, was very sensible. You can be a monster whether you have abilities or not. Gangler said: It's always been an unwritten rule in shonen anime that if you're strong enough, defenses will adjust accordingly. I like to think of it as a hitpoint system. It explains why some characters can survive things like impaling, or the loss of multiple galons of blood without medical assistance, despite in theory being biologically human. Admittedly this is the first instance of index using this principle though. The show is better when it keeps the damage real seeming, as rediculous as that may sound. Once they start shrugging off mortal wounds it ruins the suspense of all the injuries incurred during battle. Personally, I'm betting she got some alone time with the heaven canceler. Yes she should have been dead long before medical aid could be an issue, but this would still bring it within acceptable levels for me. I don't think that unwritten rule really goes for this scene though o that she should have died. If she ended in the hospital is realistic enough. So what if she hit the wall a little fast? We have heard of people in real life falling from the third even fifth floor of a building and surviving and that is worse than hitting a wall after a strong punch, so reality isn't as fragile as many people think ether. It's just that reality is so complex that you can survive some crazy shit but die by a small cut if it hits you in the wrong spot. Hell a friend of mine was hit by a car going quite fast and he didn't even broke a bone while the car looked like a mess. We where all wondering how that was possible and yet it was real. And the same person can get hurt from a lot smaller incidents. Real life is strange like that because it's full of variables. Of course even with all this it is still technically possible in the vast scheme of things to survive. As a general rule though the people who fall from planes only to get up from their crater and walk home shouldn't really be used as the standard to human physiology. Most of us would be dead before we hit the ground. Freak accidents do occur, but probably ninety nine percent of people hit by a car at full speed don't walk away unscathed. As awesome as your friend is, I still wouldn't recommend dodging traffic on a freeway/ |
| but Awaki teleport into a random area...and the last order can predict her movement as well?.Maybe Awaki's last report leak out the information of her location ... Edit: I forgot one thing...I think Kuroko's rescue is a bit overdone imo fuck I hate MAL!!! the posting system have problem |
MorningGloryNov 20, 2010 11:54 AM
Monad said: This last two episodes where really awesome. Let's hope that we won't go back to anything that involves Index having a big role. I would love for that to happen, however that's wishful thinking, I just hope she doesn't act like a retarded kid anymore.....OH WAIT, that's also wishful thinking. Monad said: That punch was so nice. That killer bitch deserved it. A little sad Kuroko lost for the second time but for a person usually making lesbian airhead jokes she showed that she's in reality very mature, her preach on how hurting others has nothing to do with abilities or not, was very sensible. You can be a monster whether you have abilities or not. I agree that she DID lose, but only because Awaki fought dirty....SERIOUSLY a gun in an esper battle??? She turned out to be a HUGE disappointment, I would have preferred a fair teleporter battle, I think Kuroko would've won. |
Yumekichi11 said: I don't think beating them up is the way at all. Abuse of men towards women is so wrong because they will never be equal in muscle power. That's why I feel strongly once again to have let either Kuroko or Misaka get revenge for Kuroko handling Awaki. Terrible! Whoever gets a kick out of the violence and blood of this is not cool. Whoever does get happy due to revenge for Kuroko is fine with me. lol but it's not abuse if the woman in question is a bitch who's done some shitty things to others (she was going to KILL kuroko and only failed b/c of Touma and Misaka, and restart the whole clones experiment again, which btw, is why Accelerator popped in to help, as he was a part of that as well as Last Order). This is coming from a woman's perspective btw, and while I agree abuse against women should not be tolerated, in this instance it wasn't abuse at all. That bitch had it coming, she did some horrible things, and merely got what was coming to her. After all she did, she deserves no sympathy for getting punched in the face by a man just b/c she's a woman. She was a bad guy who needed to be defeated, gender has nothing to do with any of that. |
SapphireStar26Nov 20, 2010 10:12 PM
| To those complaining about the woman punching (for size) Adding to what SapphireStar said. It's like not like she or any of the other female character in the pic above were innocent girls getting abused. They were all *****es willing to kill people and had no or very little issues doing so. Sherry (golem girl) had no problems destroying AC, not caring that there were non-espers there, Agnese had no problems torturing Orsula, and Awaki was going to kill Kuroko. They all deserved what was coming. If they were all guys, nobody would care. Seriously, why such a double standard against violence towards violent women? Besides, Awaki should be glad Accel just punched her and not done anything worse, seeing as he could've easily killed her right there and then. |
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