Kizuna said: Baby_Naruto said: 8GaugeBrett said: Jesus... wtf is wrong with this guy. He/she obviously is really really obsessed with bringing down his/her hated series. He/she also probably live in his/her mother's basement. Hmm, this is one of the reason why MAL's scoring systems isn't as accurate as we would like it to be. I suppose that the anime top list contain some troll accounts updates too. :| This is just so sad :(. I wish I could like teleport to where this guy is and re-educate him. |
Maora said: Berserk at 8.99. EDIT: @ 9.98 |
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| My idea would be to program in some sort of limiter on the number of accounts that can be created by a single IP in a given hour or day. That way even if they are abusing a dynamic IP they would have to keep switching for every new account (adding a few extra steps to the process). Also force email account confirmations before you can access a new account that way they actually have to log into these accounts and go through the process of creating all of those as well. As things are right now you could very easily use a BS email address that doesn't even exist to create your new MAL account. |
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8GaugeBrett said: My idea would be to program in some sort of limiter on the number of accounts that can be created by a single IP in a given hour or day. That way even if they are abusing a dynamic IP they would have to keep switching for every new account (adding a few extra steps to the process). Also force email account confirmations before you can access a new account that way they actually have to log into these accounts and go through the process of creating all of those as well. As things are right now you could very easily use a BS email address that doesn't even exist to create your new MAL account. another thing you can add for the email confirmation is one email for 1 account only. that way, when they create an account and used the same email cause fake ones became a fail, MAL automatically rejects the profile cause the email was already used for another account. EDIT: berserk at 8.95. wow, did this person reviving his/her old usernames? somehow this user reminds me of mormons. how they used to have a part where they can have 55 wives, only its profiles in MAL. |
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8GaugeBrett said: My idea would be to program in some sort of limiter on the number of accounts that can be created by a single IP in a given hour or day. That way even if they are abusing a dynamic IP they would have to keep switching for every new account (adding a few extra steps to the process). Also force email account confirmations before you can access a new account that way they actually have to log into these accounts and go through the process of creating all of those as well. As things are right now you could very easily use a BS email address that doesn't even exist to create your new MAL account. You have some wonderful ideas there, hopefully Xinil will implement some of them :D. Maora said: another thing you can add for the email confirmation is one email for 1 account only. that way, when they create an account and used the same email cause fake ones became a fail, MAL automatically rejects the profile cause the email was already used for another account. EDIT: berserk at 8.95. wow, did this person reviving his/her old usernames? somehow this user reminds me of mormons. how they used to have a part where they can have 55 wives, only its profiles in MAL. Another excellent idea Maora ^_^. |
8GaugeBrett said: It's a good idea, assuming that the user isn't behind a proxy.My idea would be to program in some sort of limiter on the number of accounts that can be created by a single IP in a given hour or day. That way even if they are abusing a dynamic IP they would have to keep switching for every new account (adding a few extra steps to the process). Also force email account confirmations before you can access a new account that way they actually have to log into these accounts and go through the process of creating all of those as well. As things are right now you could very easily use a BS email address that doesn't even exist to create your new MAL account. |
| just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe |
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Peralisc said: just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe what if you are just a user that is picky about manga and Berserk wasn't your cup of tea. eh? |
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| as i said, anyone who rates it with a 1 deserves a ban ;o wait wtf is not clear about my last statement? rate berserk with 1 = ban! |
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Peralisc said: as i said, anyone who rates it with a 1 deserves a ban ;o wait wtf is not clear about my last statement? rate berserk with 1 = ban! /rates it a 1. |
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Maora said: Peralisc said: just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe what if you are just a user that is picky about manga and Berserk wasn't your cup of tea. eh? I'm pretty sure he's just joking. But anyway, it doesn't matter to me which series he did this to (even if it was one I didn't care for) simply because this guy or girl is being a complete asshat and breaking the site rules. |
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| The real problem is how many scumbags like him are out there? Now that this was found, i really wonder if TTGL isnt overrated by clones. |
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Peralisc said: Actually, that is a good idea. How about making a script that scans the entire user database, once every day, and looks for people who rated all their anime/manga with 10's and 1's. Then the mods can look over it, to flush out any sock puppets. Of course, this would have to be all under wraps, or else people would start rating their lists with 9's and 2's. Well, it wouldn't be a secret, now that I've suggested it out in the open, but it's not like people actually pay attention to the support section, right?just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe |
llxwarbirdxll said: Some people watch this place. @_@Peralisc said: Actually, that is a good idea. How about making a script that scans the entire user database, once every day, and looks for people who rated all their anime/manga with 10's and 1's. Then the mods can look over it, to flush out any sock puppets. Of course, this would have to be all under wraps, or else people would start rating their lists with 9's and 2's. Well, it wouldn't be a secret, now that I've suggested it out in the open, but it's not like people actually pay attention to the support section, right?just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe What if someone likes to rate their anime that way though? Maybe they just give it a ten if they like it and a 1 if they don't.... as unlikely as that is, it's still a possibility. Account activity would have to be a factor in it I think. |
scorpedo said: Here's a bunch of 'em: I updated my list from the 2nd page (found another trend with gurren/kenshin/geass/death note) : Maybe (if possible) utilize the fact that they rarely re-login after creating the account. |
scorpedoNov 21, 2008 12:35 AM
| I think that person knows a lot about spamming LOL!! I mean who on earth would dedicate his entire time just to bring down 2 or more manga series, right??? I mean seriously that person should really get a life..^____^ P.S I LOVE One Piece to death!!!!! ^______________________^ |
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scorpedo said: I recall staying inactive at AnimeSuki some 6 months after I created my account there so it might not be a good idea to ban accounts based on that alone. I mean, this person is willing to make around 50 accounts in a day and it's not like all other people immediately participate (clubs, forums, making lists, etc.) on their first day.Maybe (if possible) utilize the fact that they rarely re-login after creating the account. |
Peralisc said: The real problem is how many scumbags like him are out there? Now that this was found, i really wonder if TTGL isnt overrated by clones. Based on some of the accounts that scorpedo posted, I'd say this is highly likely. |
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| All accounts mentioned have been removed...again. miopet: removing inactive accounts is not a good solution. Some times people go MIA. |
| There's already a limit of one account per e-mail address. It's just that these e-mail addresses aren't checked. If you want this to improve, give your support to this suggestion made by aero a little while ago. |
Xinil said: How about "archiving" their accounts then? If nobody logs into an account for 6-12 months their list entries' scores are removed from the score calculations and summary stats. It should reduce the impact of troll entries. miopet: removing inactive accounts is not a good solution. Some times people go MIA. Then if the owner of the account decides to sign in again after that their scores are valid again. Downsides: People with "normal" scores that go MIA will also be affected. Probably lots of other things, suggestions? |
kuroshiroi said: Xinil said: How about "archiving" their accounts then? If nobody logs into an account for 6-12 months their list entries' scores are removed from the score calculations and summary stats. It should reduce the impact of troll entries. miopet: removing inactive accounts is not a good solution. Some times people go MIA. Then if the owner of the account decides to sign in again after that their scores are valid again. Downsides: People with "normal" scores that go MIA will also be affected. Probably lots of other things, suggestions? Why not do just the scores? you know, keep the lists and stuff like that but when they don't log on for 6-12 weeks the scores are taken away not the lists. that way it has as little impact on the user as possible. what do you think? |
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Sirdam said: llxwarbirdxll said: Some people watch this place. @_@Peralisc said: Actually, that is a good idea. How about making a script that scans the entire user database, once every day, and looks for people who rated all their anime/manga with 10's and 1's. Then the mods can look over it, to flush out any sock puppets. Of course, this would have to be all under wraps, or else people would start rating their lists with 9's and 2's. Well, it wouldn't be a secret, now that I've suggested it out in the open, but it's not like people actually pay attention to the support section, right?just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe What if someone likes to rate their anime that way though? Maybe they just give it a ten if they like it and a 1 if they don't.... as unlikely as that is, it's still a possibility. Account activity would have to be a factor in it I think. that idea is BAD. don't listen to that guy. |
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_Daichi_ said: That was in fact exactly what I was talking about. The lists will still be there, scores and all and they will still be viewable and everything related to that user will be viewable, just don't use their scores in the calculations.what do you think? |
Sirdam said: That's why I said "Then the mods can look over it, to flush out any sock puppets." If the mods look at the lists and profiles of people that rate all their shows 10's and 1's, they'll be able to seperate the sock puppets from the legitimate members.llxwarbirdxll said: Some people watch this place. @_@Peralisc said: Actually, that is a good idea. How about making a script that scans the entire user database, once every day, and looks for people who rated all their anime/manga with 10's and 1's. Then the mods can look over it, to flush out any sock puppets. Of course, this would have to be all under wraps, or else people would start rating their lists with 9's and 2's. Well, it wouldn't be a secret, now that I've suggested it out in the open, but it's not like people actually pay attention to the support section, right?just make a script that automatically bans everyone who rates berserk with 1 everyone who does that deserves a ban anyway, hehehe What if someone likes to rate their anime that way though? Maybe they just give it a ten if they like it and a 1 if they don't.... as unlikely as that is, it's still a possibility. Account activity would have to be a factor in it I think. |
| I wonder how Xinil will handle this. There's going to be more and more accounts being made by this guy and give low ratings to Berserk again. |
| More accounts: http://myanimelist.net/profile/ikue_clover http://myanimelist.net/profile/phorter6 http://myanimelist.net/profile/theanimeman http://myanimelist.net/profile/theanimeguy http://myanimelist.net/profile/Animangamarine The last one rated a 6 on one of its' entries, so my idea probably won't work. |
scorpedo said: Here's a bunch of 'em: You might have missed the second batch in the spoiler before Xinil :) When I mentioned inactivity to help combat this problem, I meant it more so in the fact that the last login will probably be the date the account is created. Maybe that can be only one of the checks, with the other(s) based on scores (ie. if the score avg for all rating is very abnormally low(ie. close to 1), or if the variance between rating's is very high(only few shows with some 10's some 1's.)) |
scorpedoNov 21, 2008 9:22 PM
| He's slowed down, but hasn't stopped 3 new accounts listed on the first post. |
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llxwarbirdxll said: Makes me wonder why anyone is so hell bent on lowering these scores. And I doubt that he's slowed down. If I recall, he used other sock puppets to change the scores of anime/manga other than One Piece and Berserk, so he's probably out there making more, for those. Yeah he might be waiting for us to let our guard down. Maby we should check some of the other popular series....... |
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| Whatever the case is, he's at it again. http://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk/stats&order=1&show=0&m=&show=2678 |
llxwarbirdxll said: Whatever the case is, he's at it again. http://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk/stats&order=1&show=0&m=&show=2678 Do you know what I find odd? That no one that has Berserk on their manga lists has rated it at all, besides the guy that's trying to bring down Berserk. |
llxwarbirdxll said: There should only be 11 1/10 votes. So there 9 new accounts. (There's currently 20 votes for 1/10)Whatever the case is, he's at it again. http://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk/stats&order=1&show=0&m=&show=2678 |
ZinnKidNov 25, 2008 1:05 AM
Baby_Naruto said: llxwarbirdxll said: Whatever the case is, he's at it again. http://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk/stats&order=1&show=0&m=&show=2678 Do you know what I find odd? That no one that has Berserk on their manga lists has rated it at all, besides the guy that's trying to bring down Berserk. Score Stats10 50.8% (1381 votes) 9 25.3% (689 votes) 8 13.3% (363 votes) 7 6.0% (163 votes) 6 2.5% (67 votes) 5 0.8% (23 votes) 4 0.3% (7 votes) 3 0.1% (2 votes) 2 0.2% (5 votes) 1 0.7% (20 votes) |
llxwarbirdxll said: Baby_Naruto said: llxwarbirdxll said: Whatever the case is, he's at it again. http://myanimelist.net/manga/2/Berserk/stats&order=1&show=0&m=&show=2678 Do you know what I find odd? That no one that has Berserk on their manga lists has rated it at all, besides the guy that's trying to bring down Berserk. Score Stats10 50.8% (1381 votes) 9 25.3% (689 votes) 8 13.3% (363 votes) 7 6.0% (163 votes) 6 2.5% (67 votes) 5 0.8% (23 votes) 4 0.3% (7 votes) 3 0.1% (2 votes) 2 0.2% (5 votes) 1 0.7% (20 votes) Oops, I had the ratings list on the wrong setting xD. Ignore my earlier post lol. |
| This guy sure hates Berserk, lol. |
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aero said: This guy sure hates Berserk, lol. I think everyone who doesnt live under a rock knows that by now methinks lol xD. I wonder if he's the cause of other manga's low ratings, hmm. |
| My question is, does this guy even realize that all of his spare accounts are being deleted....and they keep doing it? Total waste of time IMHO |
| He's probably making more accounts, because they're being deleted. Also, after I made my little suggestion, he started adding in random entries with random scores in them. |
llxwarbirdxll said: He's probably making more accounts, because they're being deleted. Also, after I made my little suggestion, he started adding in random entries with random scores in them. Wait a minute, he's actually smart enough to look here? Whoa :O. |
| Here's a few more suspects: lugiak3 ikue_clover theanimeman theanimeguy Maii (maybe?) traitor Mostly 1/10 ratings, and many of the accounts hasn't been used for a while. |
Baby_Naruto said: Yeah. Just because he's a spammer, it doesn't mean he's an idiot.llxwarbirdxll said: He's probably making more accounts, because they're being deleted. Also, after I made my little suggestion, he started adding in random entries with random scores in them. Wait a minute, he's actually smart enough to look here? Whoa :O. |
llxwarbirdxll said: Baby_Naruto said: Yeah. Just because he's a spammer, it doesn't mean he's an idiot.llxwarbirdxll said: He's probably making more accounts, because they're being deleted. Also, after I made my little suggestion, he started adding in random entries with random scores in them. Wait a minute, he's actually smart enough to look here? Whoa :O. Wait a minute, not all spammers are complete idiots? |
| ^ Now that's just rude. |
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Momo-Hime said: ^ Now that's just rude. Sorry, it's just what i think about spammers that try to promote stuff and do illegal things. I have nuthin against normal friendly spammers. |
| Here's some more: edit: added some more to top list |
scorpedoDec 5, 2008 2:36 PM
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