Tu Bian Yingxiong X Episode 24 Discussion

I see everyone going crazy over the action set pieces, fair enough, but this episode didn't tell us anything about X's background and also made the plot a lot messier/worse. They literally had to split it into the ED to make time with a few bread crumbs as hints.

Action aside, this episode was a major let down for me. We get this giant exposition dump reviewing the timeline that was mostly unnecessary since we already know what happened and this entire time X is talking about how Rock is trying to revive Zero and I'm wondering during the explanation: So, why didn't you do something before now to stop Rock yourself if you already knew what he is trying to do?

It's like the director/writers were so focused on "farming aura" (getting really sick of that concept tbh) that they forgot to ask themselves that simple question. It certainly doesn't seem like he plans to join Rock in his goal, otherwise why spend literally 5 minutes recapping most of the story with dominoes falling towards the end to suggest they're building towards some major conclusion? Even if the heretofore unexplained "Spotlight Organization" is involved, you're telling me you cannot interrogate Rock for more information to stop his plans before removing him from the picture?

I also don't know why anyone thought resurrecting nice was a good idea. The public already knows he killed himself, why would they react positively to someone being brought to life if you're worried about X becoming a second Zero? Doesn't that make the idea of heroes becoming godlike even more prevalent within the public's consciousness?

Oh yeah, apparently all those people attacking X in public were somehow never video taped and posted to social media or anything to arouse suspicion for what's going on. It's like the episode was purposefully ignoring the various plot holes it was creating in favor of aura maxing.

I'm really disappointed in this episode. Going into today I thought it was a 9 and possibly a 10 despite some of my reservations, but after this I can't rate it higher than an 8. I was worried from the jump that they wouldn't sufficiently develop all the characters enough within only 24 episodes and my fears have come to pass. Dragon Boy, now X, and even Queen to an extent needed more time than was allowed in the show. Between that and the various plot issues they introduced in this episode and already happened in previous episodes this one fell short of it's full potential.

Hopefully season 2 addresses some of these issues, but the season needs to stand on it's own 2 feet against the expectations it set. You can't excuse it as something that will happen later when there's no source material holding them back from dealing with those problems right now. It's a cop out to say "wait for season 2" when sufficiently introducing us to the character's backgrounds was the entire stated goal of this season.

according to einstein the 4th dimension is time and its deterministic unlike with many worlds theory of quantum mechanics so if einstein is right then time is predetermined aka fate

but x wants to defy fate with his dimensional manipulating powers

x also always check the clock so really hinting that he can do things on the time dimension aka 4th dimension

@deg thanks for the explanation. I didn't really get what he meant when he said defying fate.

@Seansy Yes this episode was a giant exposition dump but to be fair, not everyone knew what was going on throughout the entire duration of S1. If you checked the forums, we still kept on getting posts from people who were confused as to which E-Soul survived, the events in the timeline, etc. So it was necessary to explain how the entire story fit together so that everyone watching the show were on the same page. Of course, for those who are vigilant fans who paid attention to the show, not much new was said, but we did get better clarity on the history and chronology of the show, which I appreciate.


As for Nice coming back to life...so it was strongly hinted this was going to happen because of the voting contest on bilibili. In the real world ranking, fans of the show can vote for their favorite heroes and their fate in S2. Because Nice was always top 5 in the real world votes, Nice's fandom literally willed him alive (now as a resurrected corpse). Now if he was rock bottom, he may have stayed dead. However, E-Soul was at the bottom after the Phase 1 vote right when the show started airing and therefore he was kicked out out of the tournament.

Also the hero agency controls the media. So if someone video taped it and upload it to social media, FOMO could just delete it and or censor it (much like how social media operates today).

Anyways, it is fine to be disappointed. I'm just explaining why these decisions for made for Ep 24.

one thing I can agree with, it's Zero, the eyes say it. they're the same as Zero's eyes from E-Soul's PV.

about the Queen thing, idk about that. tbh, for me at least, it does not resemble Queen but it can be her like you're theorizing. either shape shifting or possession (since we don't know Zero's powers)

I see everyone going crazy over the action set pieces, fair enough, but this episode didn't tell us anything about X's background and also made the plot a lot messier/worse. They literally had to split it into the ED to make time with a few bread crumbs as hints.

Action aside, this episode was a major let down for me. We get this giant exposition dump reviewing the timeline that was mostly unnecessary since we already know what happened and this entire time X is talking about how Rock is trying to revive Zero and I'm wondering during the explanation: So, why didn't you do something before now to stop Rock yourself if you already knew what he is trying to do?

It's like the director/writers were so focused on "farming aura" (getting really sick of that concept tbh) that they forgot to ask themselves that simple question. It certainly doesn't seem like he plans to join Rock in his goal, otherwise why spend literally 5 minutes recapping most of the story with dominoes falling towards the end to suggest they're building towards some major conclusion? Even if the heretofore unexplained "Spotlight Organization" is involved, you're telling me you cannot interrogate Rock for more information to stop his plans before removing him from the picture?

I also don't know why anyone thought resurrecting nice was a good idea. The public already knows he killed himself, why would they react positively to someone being brought to life if you're worried about X becoming a second Zero? Doesn't that make the idea of heroes becoming godlike even more prevalent within the public's consciousness?

Oh yeah, apparently all those people attacking X in public were somehow never video taped and posted to social media or anything to arouse suspicion for what's going on. It's like the episode was purposefully ignoring the various plot holes it was creating in favor of aura maxing.

I'm really disappointed in this episode. Going into today I thought it was a 9 and possibly a 10 despite some of my reservations, but after this I can't rate it higher than an 8. I was worried from the jump that they wouldn't sufficiently develop all the characters enough within only 24 episodes and my fears have come to pass. Dragon Boy, now X, and even Queen to an extent needed more time than was allowed in the show. Between that and the various plot issues they introduced in this episode and already happened in previous episodes this one fell short of it's full potential.

Hopefully season 2 addresses some of these issues, but the season needs to stand on it's own 2 feet against the expectations it set. You can't excuse it as something that will happen later when there's no source material holding them back from dealing with those problems right now. It's a cop out to say "wait for season 2" when sufficiently introducing us to the character's backgrounds was the entire stated goal of this season.

Really cool episode, but as a final episode? Idk. We got to see a cool fight sequence with X and learned about the "truth." I was really hoping to see more of what happened right after Moon's death, or even the top 10 heroes fighting each other. I thought next season was going to be more like a prequel or spin-off of the top 1 voted hero, but it seems it's going to be more a direct sequel/season 2. Was kind of hoping to see a conclusion in this episode. Oh well. Just means I get to see more of a series I like, in the future.

In the sneak peak of the next season at the end, X looks weaker? I'm guessing after he revealed his identity, his trust value goes down, because people are disappointed he's an ordinary office worker. Which makes sense, seeing how he's the protagonist of the next season, and there's no way they'd allow him to still be that OP.

X's powers are really ambiguous. Obviously there's the whole 2D/3D thing, but how does he spawn a black hole with a rainbow colored soda can? How did the heroes chase him into the 2D world? Maybe it's up to his interpretation/thoughts. Or he has so much trust that he can just do anything.

Started out great, got a bit boring/rocky near the middle, and started being really good again at the Johnny arc. Looking forward to the next season.

I see everyone going crazy over the action set pieces, fair enough, but this episode didn't tell us anything about X's background and also made the plot a lot messier/worse. They literally had to split it into the ED to make time with a few bread crumbs as hints.

Action aside, this episode was a major let down for me. We get this giant exposition dump reviewing the timeline that was mostly unnecessary since we already know what happened and this entire time X is talking about how Rock is trying to revive Zero and I'm wondering during the explanation: So, why didn't you do something before now to stop Rock yourself if you already knew what he is trying to do?

It's like the director/writers were so focused on "farming aura" (getting really sick of that concept tbh) that they forgot to ask themselves that simple question. It certainly doesn't seem like he plans to join Rock in his goal, otherwise why spend literally 5 minutes recapping most of the story with dominoes falling towards the end to suggest they're building towards some major conclusion? Even if the heretofore unexplained "Spotlight Organization" is involved, you're telling me you cannot interrogate Rock for more information to stop his plans before removing him from the picture?

I also don't know why anyone thought resurrecting nice was a good idea. The public already knows he killed himself, why would they react positively to someone being brought to life if you're worried about X becoming a second Zero? Doesn't that make the idea of heroes becoming godlike even more prevalent within the public's consciousness?

Oh yeah, apparently all those people attacking X in public were somehow never video taped and posted to social media or anything to arouse suspicion for what's going on. It's like the episode was purposefully ignoring the various plot holes it was creating in favor of aura maxing.

I'm really disappointed in this episode. Going into today I thought it was a 9 and possibly a 10 despite some of my reservations, but after this I can't rate it higher than an 8. I was worried from the jump that they wouldn't sufficiently develop all the characters enough within only 24 episodes and my fears have come to pass. Dragon Boy, now X, and even Queen to an extent needed more time than was allowed in the show. Between that and the various plot issues they introduced in this episode and already happened in previous episodes this one fell short of it's full potential.

Hopefully season 2 addresses some of these issues, but the season needs to stand on it's own 2 feet against the expectations it set. You can't excuse it as something that will happen later when there's no source material holding them back from dealing with those problems right now. It's a cop out to say "wait for season 2" when sufficiently introducing us to the character's backgrounds was the entire stated goal of this season.

I might be wrong here, but I think she is the girl from to be heroine

@Bogdan_226 btw she so waifuable ❤️ just watch to be heroine bro it short but it make you get it about more world buliding

At this point, the only believable explanation I can think of is that the current world is fake, and X came from the real one. That would explain his reality-bending powers, why the trust system doesn’t affect him, and also his unusual knowledge about everything going on. It also sheds light on how he didn’t seem particularly shocked by Smile’s death. Well, it could be anything at this point.

Maybe this is a stupid question but why did e-soul killed Moon? My theory goes around what happened with Nice in the catacumbs and he thought that Nice was still the OG Nice and not Lin Ling. But having that in consideration why did Lin Ling didn't go rampage after her death? It's the story I liked the most and the one with less answers, if E-soul killed Moon in Lin Ling's eyes he should be dead or idk like Lin did everything to save her and then when she got killed in front of her he did nothing? That's the only part of this that doesn't make any sense for me.