Tu Bian Yingxiong X Episode 8 Discussion

In my opinion, I can't say that it's a really strong start. The story base that they took for Lucky Cyan background character did not really impress me that much in this episode, not like any other main characters we got to see through out the show so far. But I have to say it still has so much potential in the upcoming episodes. Of all the episodes of the show, this is the first episode that can make me less hype for the series.

@Unconnected_ I actually thought the mystery surrounding the plane crash and the conspiracy theory about was better than the story set up for Lucky Cyan. By the end I didn't care for Cyan.
It started good but was just rushed to tease a fight scene at the end. Hopefully the next two episodes will make this arc better than the generic hero story for e-soul (my opinion)

Ok RIP that random kid at the end. He's probably dead. Now of course the orphanage guy isn't the best. Literally starting a cult or something using this girl.

Cyan she has the power of luck but idk if she herself has the best fortune since she can't even get what she really wants which is literally just being an ordinary kid. We also see from her throwing the ball how even if she has the best fortune the way it's used depends. She'll hit her mark but hitting that mark might cause something else. Her luck isn't perfect. If it was she wouldn't have been in that plane accident anyways. Also Luo seems great. Sadly though the chance of his death is like 120% with this series and based on the pvs and stuff. Also seeing even Luo has 10 or something Trust value it really makes it apparent why people didn't trust Yang Cheng. Even a orphan kid that is known for causing disaster has some trust value. Though is it that people believe he causes disaster that he has trust value and thus actually causes disasters? I guess you don't always have to believe someone has something positive. I can believe you stink a lot and if enough people believe that you'll actually stink and more as that trust value goes up?

Then interestingly we also got a Young Queen. She's that reporters daughter?

Also we saw that hero couple now. We also get more pics of other heroes in the plane crash. E-soul and that valkyrie. I wonder if these are all previous X's as some theories think? Seems likely right now that from the op E-soul to X those heroes are all X's?
I wonder though what's really up with that plane crash? was it caused by heroes? or just because of their negligence? What's going on with that? Then the accepting fear thing from some guy. Also yeah plane crashes I wonder if it's referring to any event from real life?

A mostly 2D-animated episode, interesting...

@DonghuaFan i dont know the director. First, i dont wanna watched it,But i pushed myself to watch this bad cgi (my old opinion) cause i know some link click staffs there.

@DonghuaFan To be Hero and To be Heroine were great too. The comedy bits werent good but the emotional story telling was next level in them too!!

@Unconnected_ I actually thought the mystery surrounding the plane crash and the conspiracy theory about was better than the story set up for Lucky Cyan. By the end I didn't care for Cyan.
It started good but was just rushed to tease a fight scene at the end. Hopefully the next two episodes will make this arc better than the generic hero story for e-soul (my opinion)

@EarlThe2nd Well if you actually hang out in the Link Click fandom forums on discord, reddit and twitter, Li Haoling's name pops up enough folks are translating his interviews to get the latest information. If you frequent those spaces and still don't know who he is...

So I am assuming you are a casual fan who isn't hunting down the latest info on the show. But hey you even watched TBHX because of Link Click

As for bad CGI....I think anime fans using that term is weird considering all modern anime is technically computer graphics imagery since all modern anime is made digitally. Just call it 3D animation. And Japan's usage of 3D in their 2D anime is much much worse than To Be Hero X.

Ngl the 2D animation feels a little stiff. Probably why they usually stick to 3D.

Indeed. I watched season 1 & 2 cause it got japan dub. toshiyuki toyonaga, it has been long time i see him as mc. And wil watched ther rest, S3 if it get jap dub.

Well i mean if you watched proper 3D, God eater in 2015 has good CGI. Yeah i know what you mean. Still its bad 3D. Fortunely they changed it for this ep and onward i presume. Except x arc.

Oh definitely don't need 2 episodes for her backstory lol .
I thought they tried setting up the plane crash theory, a little bit of Queen, and Cyan's backstory from being found to finally breaking free at the same time. By the time the episode ended, something felt missing like it ended just when I was about to get into her as a new character ( of course the next two episodes should do that).
She absolutely has a good backstory but in the end it didn't leave the impact I was hoping for.

this show is so much more than i expected it to be, so good. the 2D looked great, clean visuals as per usual. and lil cyan reminded me a bit of index from toaru.

first debut of chinese hatsune miku...

Now this is the Start of Lucky Cyan’s Arc.

Ngl she might be my fav out of all the heroes because I’m a big Rock music Enthusiast and Yeah while people didn’t really like her stunt she pulled at the church I would’ve been Jamming out if I was in there. Ya can’t deny that’s a good song she whipped up.

The first part with Liu Zhen quitting his Job at the newspaper due to them not reporting important stuff they should be reporting I can kinda see relating to what’s happening IRL with the Mainstream media being silent on most things that don’t fit their narrative if ya watch the news.

The Dean of the orphanage is an Evil PoS, All I gotta say about him. I didn’t think he had powers. I also think they are similar to Xavier from the X-Men series.

According to Haolin(Creator/Director) he said 2 things about this arc/future arcs:

1: he said There’s gonna(Temporarily) be going 2D animation from now on. Now Ion’ know if it’s gonna work but considering how they’re doing Rn animating it…I’ll let em Cook.

2: He also said Cyan’s arc will have a bittersweet ending. So I’m willing to bet something’s gonna happen that’ll be sad.

It's odd that Cyan has a five-digit trust value. That's quite a lot; I assume this has something to do with the Spotlight organization and Liu the reporter. What does the reporter have to do with the orphanage dean anyways? There's some conspiracy here that I don't fully know.

Queen also made an appearance! She wants to end the trust system somehow, implying that it can be ended. She's also the daughter of the reporter, so maybe that's why she doesn't like the trust system. I wonder what she thinks about fear.

Speaking of fear, is it like a conspiracy theory? What happened to the plane, if heroes would usually stop planes from crashing? And, now that I think about it, why does everyone have a trust value display on their wrist? Why the heck does the orphanage dean have trust or fear powers? So many questions...

Finally, does anyone else get kind of weirded out by the 2D animation? It looks sort of off for me for some reason, even though it looked perfect in the OP. Some movements look kind of janky. I'm sure I'll get used to it though.

Your comparing God Eater, a show with 2D character animation that uses 3D backdrops with To Be Hero X's Ep 1-7 which actually has 3D character animation as well as 3D backdrops. It is like comparing apples to oranges.

Also I'm not a fan of God Eater's lighting and coloring technique to make the 2D character animation look 3D. I'm an animator so I tend to be more nit picky about these things but Japanese animation does an excellent job of hiding their limited animation (through detailed background paintings, intricate fight animation and good shot composition). But if people actually look closely, a lot of Japanese production studios save time and money by using limited animation and they don't emphasize character acting and posing (granted it is a different style of animation than say Pixar or Disney)

However, my gripe with a show like God Eater is indeed the lack of acting and their dialogue scenes are just moving mouth flaps with an occasional head movement or eye blink to hide the fact that the shot has limited animation. It isn't as obvious in a traditional 2D show but it becomes painfully obvious because the show tries to make their characters to look 3D. As a result, they end up looking like dead puppets staring into space and sometimes can have the uncanny valley effect.

In contrast, when you actually animate things in 3D, you can have Maya interpolate key frames for you. So, there is more animation and a lot less standing there frozen while the characters mouth moves. Ep 1 of To Be Hero X has Lin Ling in different poses, he actually cowers in fear when he sees Nice kill himself and the iris in his eyes actually move. TBHX has good character animation for the main characters and important side characters. Their crowd animations could be better and can appear floaty at times (but to actually properly animate crowds at the level of the main characters would blow up the budget for the show).

I appreciate the experimental approach to God Eater's animation style and Ufotable should be applauded for it. And I do think that the show has fluid animation (when there is actual animation). But if we are going to be critical of flaws of 3D animation, we should be critical of 2D animation as well.

Anyways, you obviously watch a bit too much anime and therefore you are more forgiving about the animation flaws in 2D anime and are more critical of 3D animation since you are not use to it. There is really no point in us having this discussion beyond this point. So, I"ll leave it at that and will stop responding moving forward.

probably the worst ep of the anime for now, idk why but i just didn't like it at all

@Harkness21615 The animation was 3D during Yang Cheng's parents' deaths in Episode 5, and it was 3 years before Cyan's admission to the orphanage.