Saikyou no Ousama, Nidome no Jinsei wa Nani wo Suru? Episode 2 Discussion

Apr 9, 2:02 PM

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The story's still got potential, and the idea of a king reincarnating and living life differently is interesting, but the execution's kinda shaky. Some of the animation looked rough — especially that flying scene, lol — and a few folks mentioned the studio switch from the PV to the actual show felt like a downgrade. That said, the characters are starting to grow on people, and there's curiosity about where the plot’s headed.

Basically, it’s not terrible, but it’s not great either.

Apr 9, 2:04 PM

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I feel like watching a Webtoon series being animated rather than an actual anime...

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Apr 9, 2:08 PM

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The Studio should just drop the anime their animation sucks

Apr 9, 2:12 PM

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At first I thought the animation was just mid. Not good but not bad either. Then the fight scenes happened and I actually could not believe my eyes. How they butcher such a beloved story like this? The whole show is an action fantasy! What will they do for more important fight scenes??? I could barely understand what was happening because it's just still images that they moved from left to right to create sense of speed. In the big old age of 2025? Insane.

This has to be a late April fools joke~

Apr 9, 2:26 PM

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Lal. I seriously think that this only gets all this hate because oeople seem to love the manwa and expected it to get solo leveling quality.
Sadly it has not, but all this: "i never saw something worse" is just laughable. I watch at least 5 shows every season which look worse or not better than this. I dont see any Problem with the animation at all. Its fine. Not good, not terrible.

You are just ridiculous.

Anyone who compared this with the berserk series cant be serious or is just a blind hater

Apr 9, 2:54 PM

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so bad animation 🤮

Apr 9, 2:55 PM

#57

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People are using Rudeus as a reason to not watch Mushoku Tensei (rightfully so, since he is pretty abhorrent), however the portrayal of Arthur's past (Grey) isn't much better.

In the first episode: indiscriminate slaughter of civilians or military by bombing buildings.
In the second episode: execution of a mother and child due to the father attempting to harm him and the people calling it "mercy" for the mother and child. This implies three things:

He's a bad individual and other wants him dead.
He has murdered a lot of other individuals in cold blood, innocent or not.
These twisted ideologies is normalized in his world due to the reverence of "strength".

The anime's portrayal of Arthur's past, and about how he was should've been a later clause, not this early by making Grey look like an irredeemable bastard that just kills any chance of mine connecting with Arthur (anime Arthur). They should’ve saved that reveal until later.

And god damn it, switch Arthur's inner voice, really awkward to hear a 30+ year old man's dark voice coming from a kid.

@LJkiller if memory serves these conquest/executions flashbacks are made up in the anime
sure he wasnt a saint but why are they twisting his personality?
the role of kind was

as a fan of the novel and even the manwha I can say this, if you like the slideshow just go scroll the manwha people!

the bad things in anime:
- slideshow action
- old voice
- charge up effects with weird sounds?
- they already changed alot of stuff compared to original story, sure, flow of the story is basically the same but its simplified and thats never good

the good things:
- i can now cry about how bad it its

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Apr 9, 2:56 PM

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The fight scenes were so bad that it was like a slide show. Not to mention the CGI.

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Apr 9, 2:58 PM

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Lal. I seriously think that this only gets all this hate because oeople seem to love the manwa and expected it to get solo leveling quality.
Sadly it has not, but all this: "i never saw something worse" is just laughable. I watch at least 5 shows every season which look worse or not better than this. I dont see any Problem with the animation at all. Its fine. Not good, not terrible.

You are just ridiculous.

Anyone who compared this with the berserk series cant be serious or is just a blind hater

@Wrathberry84 The problem is not the art style. Yea there are worse drawn mid tier slop every season. But the actual animation is awful because it's nearly nonexistent. Any action scene of any kind is literally just a still image being panned. Like the falling scene that lasts a minute (absurd) is basically a 2d gacha game sprite the entire time with the same level of "animation".

I don't care if it's not Solo Leveling fight scenes but like, at least pretend you're trying to do an animation and not a slide show.

Like the people A-Cat is outsourcing to can't make more than one thing actually move in any scene. If they have to animate someone's mouth moving to talk, literally everything else is a still image.

Apr 9, 3:07 PM

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This just feels like typical copy-paste isekai that I'm going to forget a few minutes after posting this. I don't understand why there was such high expectations for this one.

There's just nothing here that's worth sitting through the middling-to-poor visuals. Maybe the story goes somewhere later, but after 2 episodes it failed to make me care enough to find out.

Apr 9, 3:12 PM

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so I was right about the likely reason ep1 had little animation being because of him being an infant. There's just nothing exciting you can do with a baby animation wise. The cliff ending was kinda stupid too, I mean he flew/floated like it was nothing as an infant, there's 0 reasons he wouldn't be able to now. Just artificial suspense to make the situation seem more tense and apparently force him to meet some dark knight or monster 🤷 honestly not the most exciting story, so far it's very generic. Oh well at least there was actual animation and not just collection of stills or low frame "movements". Story wise it's off to a very unoriginal start, but I guess it could be more enjoyable if you haven't seen too many generic isekai series'.

Apr 9, 3:20 PM

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@LJkiller if memory serves these conquest/executions flashbacks are made up in the anime
sure he wasnt a saint but why are they twisting his personality?
the role of kind was

as a fan of the novel and even the manwha I can say this, if you like the slideshow just go scroll the manwha people!

the bad things in anime:
- slideshow action
- old voice
- charge up effects with weird sounds?
- they already changed alot of stuff compared to original story, sure, flow of the story is basically the same but its simplified and thats never good

the good things:
- i can now cry about how bad it its

@Jam3s00

Jam3s00 said:
i can now cry about how bad it its

real

I've followed the webtoon since around the end of season 1, I've been a big fan then read to the novel's last chapter (around 300 at the time), and to see the anime like this, man...

You also forgot to mention for the bad things in the anime: bro did a genocide (probably)

Apr 9, 3:23 PM

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In my opinion, people who still defend this anime animation should immediately go to an eye doctor!

Apr 9, 3:38 PM

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Hot-Pantaloons

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@Glorfindel_B you're clearly just *trying* to troll. We all know the animation is bad, and you're just coming off as an edgy teen looking for attention. I'm not defending this show either, just calling out an obvious troll.

Apr 9, 3:38 PM

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that was one of the worst animated fights I've ever seen

Apr 9, 3:59 PM

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Nicoman-

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Goodbye to this garbage

Apr 9, 4:03 PM

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Great ep. Been years since i read the comic. Totally forgot where this was going until the bandit attack.

And, the anime looks good. You people should get off the Internet for a while and relax. The web is blowing this way out of proportion.
Reminds me of gamers that want more fps everywhere, yet don't even notice unstable frame rates.

Real trash animation is shit like the last Rettousei season, Mao same Retry 2nd season, Failure Frame, last episodes of Psii chan.
If this is cutting corners to save money, good. Better than actually bad animation or CG crap.

Also, the opening is amazing. Reminds me a bit of Hollywood Undead. Not that you complainers know jack about good music.

Apr 9, 4:03 PM

#68

Nendl

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I don't even fw manhwa but this is genuinely making me feel sorry for y'all

Apr 9, 4:14 PM

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I guess the animation "could" be better, but for now, I don't mind the direction and so far still enjoyable, so I don't mind it at all

Want to keep watching more to find out what will happen next

Apr 9, 4:19 PM

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for the moment i don't expect much so it is ok to watch it like that

if you hated this episode/chapter, just watch/read something else...

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Apr 9, 4:26 PM

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Oof, the slideshow fight...
The story is interesting, and honestly I could keep going just because of Jasmine (that is if she appears more in the future)
But I don't really know.. well, one more episode to finish the 3 episodes test, then I'll see if I'll drop it or continue :/

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Apr 9, 4:36 PM

#72

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I'm loving this series.

RIP, MC's former life. He was actually a puppet king at that rate. He can't even make decisions on his own. It's a tragic life.

This new life of his portrays how he could've done other things instead of killing nonsensically, which is a wonderful thing.

P.S. The animation is kinda on the budget side, so I guess that's one of my main complaints, but the mysterious vibe it gives rocks!

P.S. #2 I kinda want Jasmine to be the heroine.

ASinfulPersonageApr 9, 4:40 PM

It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.

Apr 9, 4:51 PM

#73

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WTF IS THIS EPISODE LMAOOOOOOOOOO, ONE OF THE WORST SHOW OF THE YEAR SO FAR. i'm just sad...yk

Apr 9, 4:55 PM

#74

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This story just seems so familiar somehow though. Actually, I feel like I'm watching two different Anime' that I have seen before kind of blended together. One being an obvious MT Clone..

Apr 9, 5:06 PM

#75

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I just have one thing to say and that is it was a mistake for tbate to be animated by A-CAT and those other series they made had good animation icl but they weren’t the only one animating it they had other anime studios helping them so don’t say that studio A-CAT had potential in those previous anime’s. Who knows what if they weren’t doing the fight scenes what if they were just doing the background of those scenes. The anime they have produced with not js them but with other studios.

Apr 9, 5:30 PM

#76

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Surprisingly a good episode? The animation is pure dog shit, as always. I don't expect the series to have good animation at any point, but the story telling especially the OST was done super well.

What also surprised me was that there was more animation in the slice of life moments than action, the action moments were pure still frames. But every conversational / slice of life part of the episode, actually had animation in it. The CGI little Dinosaur Raptor looking things looked cool as well, the ost was amazing this episode too. Especially in that last quarter of the episode, good cliffhanger, it went by super quick. Honestly felt immersive, as long as the OST and story telling stay this way. I'm fine with the animation being sacrificed cause this was really enjoyable for me

@hypexleaks Bro the only reason the story telling is interesting is because they took it from the manhwa, I rarely say this but watching this anime is actually doing you a disservice, go read the manhwa, it's a thousand times better

Apr 9, 5:32 PM

#77

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Rom-Com_lover said:
@cadibe95 What's more worse than having CGI monsters and slideshow fights?

Watch Tower of God Season 2 and then get back to me.

@Wish7 well, i finished it all and hmmm for me it's better than this one tho. Maybe a bit biased because i really love tog, just like y'all who loves tbate...

Apr 9, 5:41 PM

#78

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this is bad there are still many images that are shifted and a few seconds of the fight should at least look like animation (not necessarily fancy anime). the fight that is seen briefly uses CG on several characters, even the characters that are still still look CG.

Apr 9, 5:42 PM

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Really excellent episode. It's sad that there is so much childish hate going on for almost irrelevant issues.

@elkensteyin >_>

Apr 9, 5:47 PM

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Episode 2 is a complete disaster. The fight against the bandits—one of the most important early moments in Arthur’s development—is butchered beyond recognition. Not a single strike is actually animated. It’s just still frames with blood splashes and speed lines slapped on top, like they’re trying to gaslight us into thinking something is happening. This isn’t an adaptation, it’s a slideshow. The pacing is rushed, the animation is nonexistent, and the fact that they only had five key animators explains everything. It’s visually and emotionally dead. The manhwa delivered this scene with weight, tension, and raw power. The anime gives us discount stock assets wobbling on screen. For them to treat such a good story with this level of disrespect is unforgivable. Even if it’s not technically a 1/10 in quality, it deserves that score for the sheer disrespect alone. I beg studio A-CAT to never animate again, or, at the very least, to not animate pre established stories so as not to butcher another one again. I am genuinely begging them to not animate again, please

Apr 9, 5:49 PM

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Lal. I seriously think that this only gets all this hate because oeople seem to love the manwa and expected it to get solo leveling quality.
Sadly it has not, but all this: "i never saw something worse" is just laughable. I watch at least 5 shows every season which look worse or not better than this. I dont see any Problem with the animation at all. Its fine. Not good, not terrible.

You are just ridiculous.

Anyone who compared this with the berserk series cant be serious or is just a blind hater

@Wrathberry84 Nah bro you're gas lighting yourself, just because shit shows exist doesn't mean this doesn't deserve the hate, it absolutely does. This show isn't animated, it's just a slideshow with moving lines on the borders, it's absolute dogshit, and taking such a popular series and treating it liek this is frankly just an insult to the fans, no wonder it's getting this much hate

Apr 9, 6:22 PM

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MirkoAnime22 said:
The second episode of TBATE was very good. This anime doesn't need outstanding animation because it lives off its story. I find all this hate simply awful. If you don't like the anime, then just don't watch it, and please let those who do enjoy it have fun watching. The music is simply majestic and the story is good. One more small thing: The comparisons to Mushoku Tensei don't make sense to me, because the world structure and the characters themselves are different. I also think the story is better (and I'm talking about the story, not the animation). I hope that in a few weeks all the hate watchers will be gone and we can have serious, meaningful discussions again.

I don’t know a whole lot about the source but to say this show lives off the story is laughable to say the least. This is a power trip fantasy anime pretty much all it can do is half way decent animation. The shiunji family children is all story and it’s a million times better in animation.

Apr 9, 6:53 PM

#83

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Surprisingly a good episode? The animation is pure dog shit, as always. I don't expect the series to have good animation at any point, but the story telling especially the OST was done super well.

What also surprised me was that there was more animation in the slice of life moments than action, the action moments were pure still frames. But every conversational / slice of life part of the episode, actually had animation in it. The CGI little Dinosaur Raptor looking things looked cool as well, the ost was amazing this episode too. Especially in that last quarter of the episode, good cliffhanger, it went by super quick. Honestly felt immersive, as long as the OST and story telling stay this way. I'm fine with the animation being sacrificed cause this was really enjoyable for me

@hypexleaks I agree, the storytelling and the music are great, they have a good director and music composer, the art style is also quite impressive, i'm really speechless about the animation, the difference in quality with other aspects is very diabolical

Apr 9, 7:11 PM

#84

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Nah you can't fool me with "Jasmine". That's Lord Arbiter, the Mighty God-Killer! She even did the signature pose!

Apr 9, 7:15 PM

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The slideshow after the powerpoint

Apr 9, 7:25 PM

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at this point we should just drop the anime and read the webtoon instead, this is just appalling

Apr 9, 7:53 PM

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This shit is so ass. I give it one more episode before I drop because my list of anime this season is so large that I needn't waste my time on slop...

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Apr 9, 8:15 PM

#88

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This episode was boring imo. Also, wtf with the animation for the fights?

Arthur is a boy without charm (like Rudeus) however, I would love to have a child with good behaviour like him.

Since I don't know anythng about the novel, I'm curious about that thing at the end of the episode.

Apr 9, 8:28 PM

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This episode was boring imo. Also, wtf with the animation for the fights?

Arthur is a boy without charm (like Rudeus) however, I would love to have a child with good behaviour like him.

Since I don't know anythng about the novel, I'm curious about that thing at the end of the episode.

@seweholmes just read the Webtoon, you don't need to read the novel. You'll get a Gist of the story. And saying "Arthur is a boy without charm (like Rudeus)" will kinda disappoint you.
Cuz, he has charm, in fact he uses it in certain situations, unlike Rudy. He has mkre advantage of that.
Just read it, and you'll feel even more pity about the show, especially how they portrayed Arthur.

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Apr 9, 8:36 PM

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It's not as bad as a lot of people make it to be. Animation is generic but not the worst. And I think the story itself can carry this to decency.

Apr 9, 8:40 PM

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Great ep. Been years since i read the comic. Totally forgot where this was going until the bandit attack.

And, the anime looks good. You people should get off the Internet for a while and relax. The web is blowing this way out of proportion.
Reminds me of gamers that want more fps everywhere, yet don't even notice unstable frame rates.

Real trash animation is shit like the last Rettousei season, Mao same Retry 2nd season, Failure Frame, last episodes of Psii chan.
If this is cutting corners to save money, good. Better than actually bad animation or CG crap.

Also, the opening is amazing. Reminds me a bit of Hollywood Undead. Not that you complainers know jack about good music.

BlueSnow93 said:
Real trash animation is shit like the last Rettousei season, Mao same Retry 2nd season, Failure Frame, last episodes of Psii chan.

Your show has to actually have animation to be considered better than anything else at animation. lol

This show's animation is barely better than the childrens books with pull tabs to make pop up things move.

Apr 9, 8:42 PM

#92

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Is the beginning just a copy of Mushoku Tensei lol

Apr 9, 8:52 PM

#93

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Hmmm they are kind of pacing this too slowly 😆 well that's just my opinion.
They might be aiming for another cour after this so they are trying to conserve content. I might end up going back to the source material.

Apr 9, 9:49 PM

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@Glorfindel_B you should come down a little bit. I defend this because I like it. Everyone has different tastes. Also, your response reinforces my comment. So thank you for embarrassing yourself. You can like things like the story or music. The animations are not the best, that's right. But I still enjoy it.

Apr 9, 9:53 PM

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this highly feels like mushoku tensei but with bad animations.
the animation gives the feel of the low rated mid animes

Apr 9, 10:13 PM

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What the hell was that monster...

Apr 9, 11:31 PM

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I've always enjoyed the story and how things goes so its fine for the anime... thats until you get into an action scene and all they did was adding some effects to the screen and drag the characters like its some png.like they didnt even bother animating the arrow arthur shot, instead they cut right into a scene where it had struck into the tree. I'm still going to watch it but it deserves a better animation, not A-Cat.

Apr 9, 11:34 PM

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Powerpoint was never credited, what a shame.

Apr 10, 12:06 AM

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TheProHarambe said:
Why is everyone in here acting like this was animated in Ms paint? Y’all overreacting

overreacting? it's supposed to be a bloody action anime not SOL or Rom, not to mention alot of things just dont make sense in the animations like the person above you posted, there is 100% a reason to be mad

Apr 10, 12:08 AM

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any real fan of the manhwa/novel wouldn't watch this shit. we need to boycott this and makethe rating as low as possible smh.

the "production committee" really don't give a singular fuck about this anime lmao. fuck turtleme too for endorsing this shit.

someone said this shit got hit by tariffs, lmao😭😭😭😭

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