Any long-time anime fans (since the 80's and before the internet) on MAL? What is it like to be a anime veteran today?
| before the 80s, nope, but I was there before the internet (or at least before I had Internet at home since my family refused for a long time). Used to watch it on tv (first local channels and then cable). never watched VCR with retro fansubs, but had the chance to watch some pokemon and DBZ movies dubbed in my native language. just that. and played some games and had some toys, but it was more of a kid thing than an "otaku" thing. I was a fan, but not that harcore. Will bookmark this thread since some of your links provided look interesting. thanks. |
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mdo7 said: You do realize you're using a sample group Exactly like you, right? Everybody here speaks from their perspective. I think this was the whole point of the topic - sharing personal experiences. mdo7 said: I'm not sure if you ever bothered to travel to the US, I mean do you harbor any negative views of American Not sure what this is supposed to mean, there are good and bad people everywhere. Also Bulgaria is supposed to be ally with USA via NATO. I mean, we have issues with political and corporate pressure from there, but regular american citizens don't have much to do with that. Fandoms (and I was talking about them) from everywhere behave like gangs or religious cults. Always ready for a turf war, like they own the thing they adore so much. The manga/anime community is kind of tame tho, don't let me start on football (soccer) fans. mdo7 said: I ask because if your English is that good, that means you would've studied abroad. 1. My english is horrible, I just use random expressions I know for here and there. When I write is like making a collage in art class - sticking together various mismatched pieces. 2. I have never been abroad. 3. I have study french, but it's quite rusty and I guess even worst than my enlish. Some russian too, it was mandatory in school when I was little. mdo7 said: Retro-anime fans exist, and they can be young. Never doubted that, I simply dislike when they (as a group) diss automatically on all new shows. |
alshuSep 20, 2023 2:07 AM
| So I got a computer and an internet connection in 2006. However I had seen over 10 anime before then. I had VHS tapes of anime that came out before the 2000s, like the 70s, 80s and 90s. I'm not prejudiced towards old, or new anime. For example, I wanted to watch Trigun Stampede, but to get a better appreciation, I decided to watch the 2000s version first. Also back in the day, I watched Fruits Basket and liked it. So when a new version came out I didn't hesitate to watch all three seasons of it. Anime changes to suit it's audience. I as a member of the audience adapt and continue to find great anime. |
| If a 90s fan counts as a veteran then before the internet it was just TV watching dubbed anime on the only anime channel available in my region (wasn't a true anime channel but it was close enough as most of their shows were anime and the only one that cared anyways) picked for us (which varied from 60s to 90s anime) rather than picking what I want to watch like today, also not knowing what anime was back then and the dub changes (heavy changes sometimes) gave me a better and more likeable ideal view on anime despite being fake than the real view I came to learn later on through the internet and for that I prefer that period so much more than the current one and back then I could talk and watch anime with real people and friends and enjoy my time with them not like now all by myself and I get to talk about it only on the internet which was suffocating sometimes in the past but I got used to it. What's it like today after almost 30 years? Hmm... I think I get a feeling of superiority when new fans talk anime lol |
alshu said: Exactly like you, right? Except I can back it up with articles from mainstream media: BBC News-Retro gaming: Why players are returning to the classics Retro-Games And Consoles Are The Latest Craze In The Gamer World Businesses Offer A Link To The Past For Lovers Of Old Video Games Retro-gamers exist, even young retro gamers do exist. So you can't ruled out that young retro-anime fans do exist. alshu said: Also Bulgaria is supposed to be ally with USA via NATO. I mean, we have issues with political and corporate pressure from there, but regular american citizens don't have much to do with that. You can still be British, or Australian and can still hate on America (yes, they exist) for whatever reason. Just because Bulgaria is a NATO country like the USA doesn't mean there are people in Bulgaria that have negative views of America, or have hate on America for whatever reason. USA can be allies with any country, but that doesn't the citizen of allied country have can have negative views or have hatred of USA/America. alshu said: Fandoms (and I was talking about them) from everywhere behave like gangs or religious cults. Always ready for a turf war, like they own the thing they adore so much. The manga/anime community is kind of tame tho, don't let me start on football (soccer) fans. Actually, anime and manga fandom can be pretty toxic, if you don't believe me, then go read this: Which Anime Fandom is most toxic? Does AoT have the most toxic fandom? Anime has the most toxic fandom Why fandoms are toxic? The thing about fandom is that toxic fanbase will come with the territory of being part of the fandom, I learned that the hard way when I got involved with anime/manga, but other fandom I'm part of (ie: K-pop/K-drama, video game, etc...). If you're going to be part of the fandom, toxic fans will come with the territory. alshu said: 1. My english is horrible, I just use random expressions I know for here and there. When I write is like making a collage in art class - sticking together various mismatched pieces. 2. I have never been abroad. Well your English is pretty good for someone living in Bulgaria, I just assumed you studied English because you probably work or studied abroad. I mean that's the reason why foreign national (like you) would studied English in a almost fluent manner. alshu said: I simply dislike when they (as a group) diss automatically on all new shows. Well, I don't like young anime fans blasting old school retro anime, so that makes the 2 of us. But seeing young retro anime fans presence online brings me hope that there are more of them out there. But we're getting off topic. TheBerserker said: If a 90s fan counts as a veteran then before the internet Uh, for you? Sure, I wanted to find and see if there are older anime fans that have been in the fandom/community since the 80's (which they do exist judging from evidence). |
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@billybub Your total department, 32 years, is too short, isn't it?
| @OdinPayne I have no idea what you're attempting to say. Just going to assume you mean the amount of entries on my list, maybe? If that's the case, keeping tracknof what ive watched has always been an afterthought |
mdo7 said: Except I can back it up with articles from mainstream media: The BBC one...those guys couldn't make a difference between Gundam and Voltron on the Olympic Games ceremony. They simply don't care about nerd culture. The NPR one...Well, you, guys, like to generalise based on where the money go, instead on why. And this is the reason behind absolute nerd icons like Boba Fett, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ahsoka failing to bing back the fans. You can identify a process, but not the actual mechanics behind it. Well this is my theory, I can't back it up, but something in that vain is happening right now with Star Wars, Marvel and DC. mdo7 said: Retro-gamers exist I know that (I even know one IRL), but I have a different idea how and why those guys operate...and I mentioned that several time already. mdo7 said: So you can't ruled out that young retro-anime fans do exist. I did that? Not really. Go and see my "Not necessary a generational thing". mdo7 said: and can still hate on America I mentioned it just to clear where my country stands. Also internet has ruined the word "hate". Nowadays it simply means "dislike". mdo7 said: people in Bulgaria that have negative views of America You bet, but official policy is the closest thing to a proper generalisation. mdo7 said: Actually, anime and manga fandom can be pretty toxic Small potatoes to burning a train full with fans of a rival sort team...but my point was that even the non-toxic fans are hard to communicate with. |
| Born 1992, but watched anime since birth. Sadly, I didn't know the difference between it and USA cartoons until I started seeing uncut dubs. |
| Born 1980 in the UK. There were a few anime on tv thanks to the likes of DIC Entertainment and BRB Internacional. Though at the time I didn't realise then what anime was. Watched shows like Ulysses 31, Belle and Sebastian, Dogtanian, Kimba the White Lion, Willy Fog, "Battle of the Planets" ect. Then later anime started becoming more openly mainstream but still thin on the ground with Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, DBZ, Pokemon, Digimon. But there was more mature stuff if you knew who to ask to get a hold of the Manga Video VHS tapes. I found the likes of Genocyber, Akira, Ninja Scroll, Appleseed, Dominion Tank Police ect.. This brings back such nostalgia! Oh and Adult Swim where the good stuff could be found like Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop and Afro Samurai. So yeah early days it was limited to tv and bootlegging. Today is VERY different. Anime is just so easily accessible and readily accepted instead of a niche thing or a "children's" thing. So many options. So many places to watch. (Though I kind of miss the time of Kissanime. One of the only piracy sites I've used because there was probably greater opportunity to catch all sorts of anime then without subscribing to 5 different sites. Not to mention far fewer virus'es running about) Though I will say despite living in the lap of luxury when it comes to anime choices now. There are many people who don't seem to appreciate the variety we have now. Over indulged maybe. |
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Born 1980 in the UK.
There were a few anime on tv thanks to the likes of DIC Entertainment and BRB Internacional. Though at the time I didn't realise then what anime was. Watched shows like Ulysses 31, Belle and Sebastian, Dogtanian, Kimba the White Lion, Willy Fog, "Battle of the Planets" ect. Then later anime started becoming more openly mainstream but still thin on the ground with Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, DBZ, Pokemon, Digimon.
But there was more mature stuff if you knew who to ask to get a hold of the Manga Video VHS tapes. I found the likes of Genocyber, Akira, Ninja Scroll, Appleseed, Dominion Tank Police ect..
This brings back such nostalgia!
Oh and Adult Swim where the good stuff could be found like Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop and Afro Samurai.
So yeah early days it was limited to tv and bootlegging. Today is VERY different. Anime is just so easily accessible and readily accepted instead of a niche thing or a "children's" thing.
So many options. So many places to watch. (Though I kind of miss the time of Kissanime. One of the only piracy sites I've used because there was probably greater opportunity to catch all sorts of anime then without subscribing to 5 different sites. Not to mention far fewer virus'es running about)
Though I will say despite living in the lap of luxury when it comes to anime choices now. There are many people who don't seem to appreciate the variety we have now. Over indulged maybe.
There were a few anime on tv thanks to the likes of DIC Entertainment and BRB Internacional. Though at the time I didn't realise then what anime was. Watched shows like Ulysses 31, Belle and Sebastian, Dogtanian, Kimba the White Lion, Willy Fog, "Battle of the Planets" ect. Then later anime started becoming more openly mainstream but still thin on the ground with Sailor Moon, Cardcaptor Sakura, DBZ, Pokemon, Digimon.
But there was more mature stuff if you knew who to ask to get a hold of the Manga Video VHS tapes. I found the likes of Genocyber, Akira, Ninja Scroll, Appleseed, Dominion Tank Police ect..
This brings back such nostalgia!
Oh and Adult Swim where the good stuff could be found like Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop and Afro Samurai.
So yeah early days it was limited to tv and bootlegging. Today is VERY different. Anime is just so easily accessible and readily accepted instead of a niche thing or a "children's" thing.
So many options. So many places to watch. (Though I kind of miss the time of Kissanime. One of the only piracy sites I've used because there was probably greater opportunity to catch all sorts of anime then without subscribing to 5 different sites. Not to mention far fewer virus'es running about)
Though I will say despite living in the lap of luxury when it comes to anime choices now. There are many people who don't seem to appreciate the variety we have now. Over indulged maybe.
| I like to bump this topic... UberBat said: So yeah early days it was limited to tv and bootlegging. Today is VERY different. Anime is just so easily accessible and readily accepted instead of a niche thing or a "children's" thing. Yeah, that's a big difference between today and back in early-late 2000's. Even in early 2010's, anime was still far away from becoming "accepted" and mainstream. |
| Started watching anime in the mid-90s. It started by watching a late night "cartoon" on the Sci-fi channel that turned out to be way more violent and mature than I was expected. Intrigued I watched a few of these summer specials which included the likes of Wicked City and Violence Jack. I soon clocked this was anime. Not long after, when I went to America I managed to convince my parents to get Ninja Scroll. Totally inappropriate for my age but I suppose they just thought it was some Disney cartoon and didn't realise the violence and sexual scenes this movie had. As you can see my experiences to anime before the internet was limited to TV and if lucky some video tapes you could find in HMV or the like if you were lucky. The internet really opened things up but even researching or getting hold of anime during the era of dial-up or slow internet connection was a nightmare. I remember downloading Evangelion on something not much faster than dial-up. What a nightmare that was! I can look back with nostalgia but being an anime fan back then was tough. Also discussing anime was way more limited and was pretty niche. Internet forums certainly paved the way for more indepth anime discussions but unfortunately forums on the whole have gone out of vogue. I don't really do social media. |
| Born in France in 1976 here. Anime was big on French TV from the late 70s to the late 90s. Then we had to rely on VHS to get our fix before Internet was invented. It's funny to see how mainstream anime is nowadays, but then again so is pop culture in general. As an anime fan, it pains me that some great older anime are niche or underrated on MAL. On the other hand, I never would have expected stuff like Dragon Ball or Captain Tsubasa to still have sequels or remakes today. |
IKKIsamaSep 30, 2023 3:48 PM
IKKIsama said: As an anime fan, it pains me that some great older anime are niche or underrated on MAL. On the other hand, I never would have expected stuff like Dragon Ball or Captain Tsubasa to still have sequels or remakes today. Same here, I could say the same for pre-SAO isekai anime. I mean Aura Battler Dunbine, Fushigi Yugi, Orguss, and other old school isekai anime are being ignored by the current anime/manga fandom (well except the retro-anime fanbase that are watching those). |
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"Any long-time anime fans (since the 80's and before the internet)"
Born in 76 in the US and I was watching anime before it was called that, back then it was "cartoons" or "Japanese cartoons" I saw so many anime likes of Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds, and Maya the Bee and many, many more that I don't even remember half of them.
Back then I saw them either on some bootleg dubbed in Spanish VHS tape, I also got hand of some sub/dub VHS in Italian and I also watched some Mexican Sat TV station(s)/other Latin American Sat tv station(s).
I remember watching and loving Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger that way.
"What is it like to be a anime veteran today?"
I feel like I'm at best a fossil at worst a boomer😆
Born in 76 in the US and I was watching anime before it was called that, back then it was "cartoons" or "Japanese cartoons" I saw so many anime likes of Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds, and Maya the Bee and many, many more that I don't even remember half of them.
Back then I saw them either on some bootleg dubbed in Spanish VHS tape, I also got hand of some sub/dub VHS in Italian and I also watched some Mexican Sat TV station(s)/other Latin American Sat tv station(s).
I remember watching and loving Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger that way.
"What is it like to be a anime veteran today?"
I feel like I'm at best a fossil at worst a boomer😆
| @Dawizz Thank you for responding on this thread!!! Your input is noted. |
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