Is Attack on Titan the best anime about freedom?

ktg said:
About freedom? One Piece, Code Geass.

TheMansWorld said:
What do you guys think? If not, what other anime do you think is better?


Edit 2 : pls don't just mention the name of anime. Also, explain why the 'X' anime is good or how it is better.If you can't ,then it will only show you are moron , don't know anything about the anime you are mentioning and you are mentioning it only for the clout.


Edit 1: C'mon guys. By freedom, i mean actual freedom, where protagonist struggle to free himself. Not a bunch of clowns roaming from one island to other, listening to the sob story of every Naruto-type-filler character. Then protagonist getting mad at the villain, beating the sh1t out him and "Hurrrrrrrray we are free....." .
This sh1t is Mickey Mouse level of freedom. I want something complex.

You guys are literally insulting the word freedom mentioning Mid Piece.

sry for my bad english 🥲

MR-GOD said:

Why the fuck are you trying to act smart and being picky when you are asking a dumbass question like “what anime that has freedom in it is the best?” Why would anybody give a shit about such a stupidly specific question? Shut up.

_spoon_ said:
It's Probably not

nishant0 said:
I'm still trying to figure out that why people think Vinland Saga as a Freedom anime.

TheMansWorld said:
You will see that in 2nd season.

Farhan_Muhib_ said:
read vinland saga

SirHerbert124 said:
This question has to be satire, right?

TheMansWorld said:
What do you guys think? If not, what other anime do you think is better?


Edit 2 : pls don't just mention the name of anime only. Also, explain why the 'X' anime is good or how it is better.If you can't ,then it will only show you are moron , don't know anything about the anime you are mentioning and you are mentioning it only for the clout.


Edit 1: C'mon guys. By freedom, i mean actual freedom, where protagonist struggle to free himself. Not a bunch of clowns roaming from one island to other, listening to the sob story of every Naruto-type-filler character. Then protagonist getting mad at the villain, beating the sh1t out him and "Hurrrrrrrray we are free....." .
This sh1t is Mickey Mouse level of freedom. I want something complex.

You guys are literally insulting the word freedom mentioning Mid Piece.

sry for my bad english 🥲

Farhan_Muhib_ said:
read vinland saga

ktg said:

The whole show is about that:
"I Don’t Wanna Conquer Anything. It's Just That The Person With The Most Freedom On The Sea is The Pirate King."
/Luffy/


He wants to free everyone from the hatred, the war. And let them be free and happy, so they can decide their own future.

The SnK is actually the worst example out of the 3, because it's more like about revenge than freedom. The series shows what's the problem when someone misinterpret freedom.

DiomarBrasindo said:
AoT was the illusion of freedom
One piece does it better

24846 said:

The way one piece does it is so in your face and not subtle at all. It’s black and white in the way it explores it and has almost no nuance to it. It’s very “shonany” and how it explores it

notsofamousxD said:
Aot is the best anime in general

DiomarBrasindo said:

The fact that it is in your face makes it the best about freedom, to give out the message.
It’s supposed to be obvious

24846 said:
btuh, have u ever heard of the show don’t tell rule. The most basic rule of storytelling. And how does obvious = good. Obviously just means it lacks subtly and treats it’s audience like their to dumb to try and figure out the messages through the characters actions, so instead it just tells us

DiomarBrasindo said:

Bruh you’re obviously taking it out of hand then, it’s showing us freedom by the actions of what’s happening in backflashes, current scenes and future goals. They’re not directly telling us “this is it”.
AoT wasn’t even subtle or nuance like you’ve kept mentioning, there’s literally an entire double page of him telling us “freedom”

Khalil04 said:

Man wtf is wrong with these teenagers in this thread 😭
Acting as if one piece doesn't present the most generic forms of freedom that has been shown in a repetitive and milked way for over two decades, or the fact that it represents it the same way as another 999 anime does lol
Vinland Saga might be arguable, since it takes itself seriously at least and presents this theme in a very mature way
Of course there's some other good examples of different kinds of freedom whose were shown in 86, Berserk, violet evergarden, the promised Neverland...
But when it comes to the best representative from of freedom, then it's definitely AOT, I don't think it's a matter of opinion here even though I'm being open minded to accept any other series that deals with this theme well
Because in AOT, this term was expressed through many characters perfectly and with many unique and different ways, like Eren, Zeke, Grisha, Kenny, Yumir, Mikasa and Armin..

DiomarBrasindo said:

Bruh you’re obviously taking it out of hand then, it’s showing us freedom by the actions of what’s happening in backflashes, current scenes and future goals. They’re not directly telling us “this is it”.
AoT wasn’t even subtle or nuance like you’ve kept mentioning, there’s literally an entire double page of him telling us “freedom”

DiomarBrasindo said:

Bruh you’re obviously taking it out of hand then, it’s showing us freedom by the actions of what’s happening in backflashes, current scenes and future goals. They’re not directly telling us “this is it”.
AoT wasn’t even subtle or nuance like you’ve kept mentioning, there’s literally an entire double page of him telling us “freedom”

Khalil04 said:


Need one piece fans to stop being superficial like their series fr
"there’s literally an entire double page of him telling us freedom", so you skipped all forms of freedom shown indirectly and masterfully in this series and used that one panel that talks about freedom directly yet not full in context lol
As he said, every show that uses the rule of "show, don't tell" already has the supremacy over other shows that slams the theme into you by words and basic actions

And in AOT freedom is explored through many characters in a different ways, Eren and his incapability of comprehending the true meaning of freedom, Yumir and her slavery for love, Zeke and his ultimate vision of life and existence, Grisha and his following the customs and traditions...
Not to mention the manifestation of this theme in the decisions of the characters which speak for themselves without even mentioning the word, like Kenny, Levi, Mikasa, Erwin, Armin, Historia..

DiomarBrasindo said:

Need you to be caught up on both before anything else
Doflamingo by himself is better than the AoT cast

Khalil04 said:

Generic one piece fan reply lol
He's good but let's get him past Connie first

Khalil04 said:

Generic one piece fan reply lol
He's good but let's get him past Connie first

TheMansWorld said:
That dude, literally copy pasting same shit lmao. "Doflamingo by his is better than the Aot cast" without explaining how.

TheMansWorld said:
@Mikasa What's your thoughts on freedom in One Piece, and How it compares to Aot?

Mikasa said:


I believe One Piece's idea of freedom to be a crutch used to prop up its overall theme, it's a flavor; shallow, lacking the bone and meat of storytelling to render it narratively nutritional.

TheMansWorld said:
True. This what i am telling in this whole thread, but one piece fans ignoring my points.....

Sujal234 said:
if you don't have money you don't buy a mobile that you wanted/needed then how does that make that you can do whatever you want?
You can't do whatever you want because you are slave of something.
You can't buy a mobile THAT YOU WANT/NEED because you are slave of the money.

That is how I thought all around AOT.
Maybe I am wrong.
Maybe you didn't thought the same way how I thought.
But I still respect your opinion man.

Anyways this whole freedom thing is bullshit
Lets just respect each others opinions and KEEP MOVING FORWARD🤣

zero_uchiha said:

naah not one piece and code geass....yes there are some arcs in op but it's not on the level of aot...I mean in aot the main aim of the MC is to get his freedom he even became a villain for that....there might have been a good argument if you would have mentioned vinland saga....but still I would have said aot is the best anime on the topic of freedom

ghier said:

Whoa, idk about that. I think Eren just had dual motives … not that one was confused for the other.

ktg said:

And if you can buy a mobile, you are not slave of money? But if you can buy a mobile, but not buy a new house, you become slave of the money again? And if you can buy a house too, but not a country, you are slave?
This argument is pretty weak. Being slave is not just a temporary 2 months thing. Kenny talked about people's whole life, not just moments.

Actually, I have problems with unconditional respects towards others' opinions. Let's my opinion is this:
SnK is about Eren, who wanna have sex with his father. But his father died, so he made a deal with Azumabito. With their technology they could clone his dead father, but for that Eren need to kill 100 million people.
This interpretation is okay? Would you say that you can accept this?

In SnK case, not looking behind the words and not seeing the true meaning is a problem, because if we use the quotes literally, then it's simply mean Reiner, Annie etc are heroes, because in Marley they call them heroes.
In the show, every time the author use a "good" thing and twist it until it becomes bad. Like we earlier talked about freedom and revenge, now we talked about slavery and dream. But you can see other examples as well like nationalism, heroism etc.



I already refuted this. If you are interested why you are wrong, read my other comments in the topic.




It is an option, but Eren was always drawn as a simple character. Even in the first season he started off as a generic shounen protagonist and later on he didn't really become a clever or deeper character.
So, he's having only an motive is much more like him.

ktg said:
In SnK case, not looking behind the words and not seeing the true meaning is a problem, because if we use the quotes literally, then it's simply mean Reiner, Annie etc are heroes, because in Marley they call them heroes.
In the show, every time the author use a "good" thing and twist it until it becomes bad. Like we earlier talked about freedom and revenge, now we talked about slavery and dream. But you can see other examples as well like nationalism, heroism etc.