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| i can't be the only one super bothered by how quickly the car got fixed right after unless a crazy amount of time passed when Destiny took out the D2 which she did instantly this still can't shake off that "typical" mobile game plot despite it's higher production |
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rasterman7 said: While I don't necessarily agree on the part of the show being bad, you make some good arguments regarding the characters and the use of the music. The former lacks in personality to the point were my favorite now is probably Anna because she at least reacts to what's happening. Regarding the latter, maybe using some classical tunes to shape the fights, though I don't know how demanding would that be. The music is really the most disappointing aspect for me. It's so easy to imagine how they could have made this an exceptional anime, just by delivering on the stated premise of the show. There are so many creative directions they could have taken this idea, but didn't. The thing is, classical music is all public domain. So there is nothing stopping them from just creating their own mixes in software and really making it an integral part of the OST and the story. Instead, they've barely paid lip-service to the pieces the Musicarts are supposedly "born" from. But I understand why they didn't do that. This episode confirmed for me that the minds behind this series simply aren't interested in producing a high quality product. They are concerned with producing an ad, for which the mere appearance of quality is sufficient. Hence, why Mappa and Madhouse are involved. Even then, it's clear the minimum of effort has been expended on this production. Obviously, a lot of people were hoodwinked into thinking this was a real anime for that reason. Zanfroni said: For someone who is clearly hating this show in every front, you seem to be investing an awful lot of time in every discussion thread of it. What are you implying? That the show can't be that bad if I'm this invested in it, or something? That isn't actually how it works. If you're taking it personally that someone doesn't like something you like, congratulations, you played yourself. Regardless, I'm not actually spending much more time than it takes to watch the episode. I write up my thoughts while watching and then wrap them up in five to ten minutes after the episode is over. And as I said, this will probably be the last episode I watch seriously. Normally I don't comment on shows, period. But this one was interesting for a few reasons, such that I felt compelled to do a bit of analysis on exactly why it didn't work. |
SSL443Nov 2, 2021 6:49 PM
| Such a disappointment lol, another style over substance anime. All it's got going for it is pretty colors and pretty characters, is there anything else worthwhile? I'm struggling here... The conductor has to be one of the worst ideas I've ever seen in anime, let's face it, you're doing next to nothing in helping with these battles. Destiny is the one in control and in charge here. The music aspect of this show is non existent and isn't portrayed well at all, in either battle as creative ideas or just the soundtrack in general. I was waiting for Hell's big fight scene and what do they give me? XD XD Some stupid fucking yandere clown with shitty roller-skate powers. Just piss off already... This is reminding me of Listeners, both set in a world where music isn't played, they're both on a road trip to a certain place and they are always fighting the same monsters every episode lol. Listeners failed with it's direction and pacing and you didn't care for the characters at all, this show also seems to be heading in that direction. Trash/10. |
| I'm not a fan of Jogku/hell tbh. Quite annoying and nothing special but the train setting was refreshing and it's cute seeing Destiny discover new foods lol |
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| valkyrie those characters that are absolute badasses but gets flustered by the smallest thing. shes cute would love to see some female conductors/male musicarts, or maybe i missed a line where that cant happen because i dont think ive seen one |
| I didn't understand the Valkyrie and Walker reference. JK its Rise of the Valkyries. Also why Heavy Metal music in the desert? Seemed like a weird choice for the direction. Valkyrie has saved this anime for me...for now. It's just boring and generic now. |
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 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
Zanfroni said: SSL443 said: Actually an episode with some plot, but the quality of the writing still has mobile game spelled out all over it. For some reason Felix is a mustache-twirling caricature with an affected personality, in place of actually being an interesting character with some depth. Meanwhile, Anna and Takt are shocked that he refers to Destiny as a weapon, despite the fact that this was already implicit from prior events in the story. This creates a sense of fake tension in the scene that is manufactured and has no actual basis in the plot. From their point of view, there is no reason to view the exchange as confrontational, aside from Felix's cartoonishly sinister demeanor. But their negative reaction is necessary in order to create a plot point leading to Felix becoming a minor antagonist, so it gets shoe-horned in with minimal justification. In a nutshell, the scene on the train is yet another demonstration of bad writing. Characters lack the depth to be either interesting, or to provide other characters with the necessary motivations to advance the plot. We as the audience are "told" Felix is bad, instead of being shown him actually doing something motivated and logical to demonstrate his character. As a result, the reaction of Takt's group makes no sense in context of the evidence presented by the narrative. This is weak storytelling. The other new characters are more or less one-dimensional caricatures as well, which is not surprising. These are the types of characters that would be expected in a game of this caliber. Valkyrie is a tsundere guys, did you get it? Wow, I sure can't wait to pull for her when the game finally comes out. The main cast of course has had zero character development since the first or second episode. Takt is if anything even more of a bratty diva, but that hardly counts as "development." As for the action, no change there. No effort to do anything with the music premise, and no effort to elevate the action beyond what would be expected from a level in a cheap video game. In this episode, the bad writing even bleeds into the action, culminating with Takt's brilliant move to drop a small cliff on enemies that can, you know, fly. Leaving aside the fact that this makes no sense, this simple idea is somehow missed by everyone else in a shaky attempt to paint Takt as some kind of tactical genius. The animation has become extremely repetitive at this point. Destiny jumps up in the air, shoots her gun, and then lands. It's boring and uninspired, but I'm sure a bunch of people who have never seen anime before will continue to think this constitutes "amazing" animation. Anyway, this is probably where I drop the show. The quality has stabilized at a predictably low level, and nothing is really changing or developing on that front. With only seven episodes remaining, it seems every unlikely that anything particularly interesting or revelatory with happen, given how shockingly little world-building has taken place so far. Not surprising given that this show is pretty much just bait for the game. Final conclusion: this show is embarrassingly bad, and only has buzz around it because of studio clout and the concordantly flashy animation. For someone who is clearly hating this show in every front, you seem to be investing an awful lot of time in every discussion thread of it. That’s pretty much is M.O on this site. All he does is talk about shows he hates and treats anyone who likes them like their easily please children. He says this is where he’ll drop it but I highly doubt this is the last time he’ll be in these threads. |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: That’s pretty much is M.O on this site. All he does is talk about shows he hates and treats anyone who likes them like their easily please children. He says this is where he’ll drop it but I highly doubt this is the last time he’ll be in these threads. Dude, I've offered a serious opinion on what, two shows? The fucking shield emo show and this one. That hardly constitutes an "M.O." Also, why are you paying so much attention to me to even know what my "M.O." would be? Sheesh. |
| Well, guess I can't expect decent antagonists from this show either. Overly narcissistic Conductor + lunatic Musicart? Sounds like such an annoying duo. Also, not really a fan of Valkyrie's character but I would like to see her becoming Anna's Musicart or something. What was Anna's purpose in the story, by the way? |
| Definitely a better episode than the last one, this one's pretty good. There's definitely someone that revived the D2's or something and the prime suspect right now is Schindler. Oh no, I fell down the Walkure rabbit hole. I hope to God she joins Takt's group, since I don't think she has anywhere else to go. How tf was Anna able to fix the tires so fast though lmao. Schindler and Hell are mad sus, but ngl, Hell's slicing skates are sick. |
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The quality on this episode was questionable, I will just leave the best ScreenCap of all time, Destiny after a butchered plastic surgery The introduction of an actual human villain is somehow an interesting turn because it delivers something to watch for, but it doesn't really feel like a real conflict, more than just the antagonist being an obtuse entity that has conflicted morals with the protagonist because he is the embodiment of evil. And they just introduced more trope girls for the game, at least the crazy weirdo was sexy |
| Valkyrie reminds me many other characters ahah "Hell" is so strong, I think she will be an enemy in the future. |
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TsutanaiFuun said: How did takt get on top of the train? Magic fairy dust and some good old fashioned grit. |
| I get that Hell was intended to be a creepy character that's probably evil but she's pretty cool, reminds of Hisoka(cause she clearly loves killing just as much as he does). This was step-up from the previous episode, but there's still not enough story progression going on. |
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| More beautiful animation, even the CGI wasn't bad, sasuga Mappa-House. Valkyrie joining Takt would be pretty cool, she'd probably play the role akin to older sister of Destiny. Probably won't happen tho, after all the title is Takt op. Destiny |
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TsutanaiFuun said: How did takt get on top of the train? with one arm too... |
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| holy shit, how Anna changed the Tire in 10 seconds lmao New Musicart Valkyrie was cute, i want to know who is her Seiyuu? it hasn't been listed yet. i'm curious, because it's sounds so familiar to me. damn edgy commander Musicart was Hot AF. i like her character design. |
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| I really hope that blue musicart get a contract with takt, cause i really like her |
| Back to the present, First off that commander is not looking helpful whatsoever, But damn Takt Anna's precious car you can't just talk it out well poor Anna she'll have to deal with a dent on it Can't Anna take a break especially from those two with their shenanigans like for once I feel like she's the one who's most stressed out from all of them That conductor and Hell surely fit themselves with how strong and condescending they were, But yeah might have to be careful with those two in the future. |
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SSL443 said: rasterman7 said: While I don't necessarily agree on the part of the show being bad, you make some good arguments regarding the characters and the use of the music. The former lacks in personality to the point were my favorite now is probably Anna because she at least reacts to what's happening. Regarding the latter, maybe using some classical tunes to shape the fights, though I don't know how demanding would that be. The music is really the most disappointing aspect for me. It's so easy to imagine how they could have made this an exceptional anime, just by delivering on the stated premise of the show. There are so many creative directions they could have taken this idea, but didn't. The thing is, classical music is all public domain. So there is nothing stopping them from just creating their own mixes in software and really making it an integral part of the OST and the story. Instead, they've barely paid lip-service to the pieces the Musicarts are supposedly "born" from. But I understand why they didn't do that. This episode confirmed for me that the minds behind this series simply aren't interested in producing a high quality product. They are concerned with producing an ad, for which the mere appearance of quality is sufficient. Hence, why Mappa and Madhouse are involved. Even then, it's clear the minimum of effort has been expended on this production. Obviously, a lot of people were hoodwinked into thinking this was a real anime for that reason. Zanfroni said: For someone who is clearly hating this show in every front, you seem to be investing an awful lot of time in every discussion thread of it. What are you implying? That the show can't be that bad if I'm this invested in it, or something? That isn't actually how it works. If you're taking it personally that someone doesn't like something you like, congratulations, you played yourself. Regardless, I'm not actually spending much more time than it takes to watch the episode. I write up my thoughts while watching and then wrap them up in five to ten minutes after the episode is over. And as I said, this will probably be the last episode I watch seriously. Normally I don't comment on shows, period. But this one was interesting for a few reasons, such that I felt compelled to do a bit of analysis on exactly why it didn't work. I'm not implying anything, I was just curious as to why. But now I'll have to say: I find your first paragraph hilarious considering you were the one on most threads of people defending this show and went about to wrote an essay on why it sucks. If anything, you are the one taking differing opinions about this show personally. And no, please don't start with the "Normally I don't comment on shows, period.". Your 900+ Forum posts beg to differ. A quick cycle and you seem to comment on a lot of shows (and there's nothing wrong with that). But you do comment (in the first page, more than half of your posts come from Takt Op.Destiny and I found posts from Honzuki no Gekokujou, Tonikaku Kawaii, Zetsuen no Tempest, and this was only in the first page). So please, don't even start with this excuse. All I'm curious is: why spend so much effort into argumenting against a show you clearly dislike and, apparently, you're going to drop (which I highly doubt you will). I can totally understand citing your thoughts on the Episode Discussion but you're doing far more than this. Still seems like a complete waste of time to me and I can't see you accomplishing anything fruitful. FYI, I'm not a fan of this show either to be "defending" it, it's full of writing issues and the flow of events is chaotic, although I won't deny that I'm having disposable fun with the crisp animation and sound design. |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: Zanfroni said: For someone who is clearly hating this show in every front, you seem to be investing an awful lot of time in every discussion thread of it. That’s pretty much is M.O on this site. All he does is talk about shows he hates and treats anyone who likes them like their easily please children. He says this is where he’ll drop it but I highly doubt this is the last time he’ll be in these threads. I also doubt he is going to drop this show. But best thing to do next time is simply ignore it. If he is trying to boost his ego, better not feed him. |
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| Yeah, this is losing me. The main characters got their backstory at this point, and nothing interesting was revealed. There was no setup for any character arc or future development so it seems they will be acting the same way for the rest of the show. Also I don't care for any of the new ones. Hell has a nice design. That's about it. I especially didn't like Valkyrei, and I feel like I've seen her exact same character somewhere before. At this point, the fights have 0 stakes. We know no one's getting hurt. We've seen them happen the same way continuously, and it's random and pointless. They add nothing to the story aside from the visual spectacle. But I guess that's the entire point of this anime. Anyway, I started writing this because I was annoyed about how Cosette was casually poking a cactus. |
| Another episode of good action animation and good voice acting (crazy sounding Ueda is the best), paired with a boring and nonsensical plot and story. |
| Hell's design got me acting up ngl |
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| The true 2nd episode after a decent enough flashback arc, and we have finally met Hell with her commander, and (tsun) Valkyrie. I wonder why the big boss wants Cosette and Takt so much (I wonder), and yo did Val blushed so hard to Takt, oh hell yeah write that down (if u know what I mean). Pretty alright episode, finally get to see some good action on this show. |
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| Great fight scenes as always. The new characters are ok I guess. Lol that woman's feet turned into wheels wtf |
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Zanfroni said: [All I'm curious is: why spend so much effort into argumenting against a show you clearly dislike and, apparently, you're going to drop (which I highly doubt you will). I can totally understand citing your thoughts on the Episode Discussion but you're doing far more than this. Still seems like a complete waste of time to me and I can't see you accomplishing anything fruitful. Again, I'm not expending much effort or time. I'm just expressing my opinion. I consider that a worthy use of my time as an end unto itself. I don't really care if I influence others or anything like that. And I actually am going to drop the show. Look at how many shows I've dropped in the past, it's something I do regularly when a show doesn't appeal to me. And relative to the number of shows I've dropped or given low ratings, I've made forum posts about a very small fraction. I do generally only post about shows I think are bad, though. I find it more interesting to analyze why a show doesn't work than jack off in an echo chamber about how great something is. |
| Literally every new character they introduced today fits a cliche character trope. Everything was way too predictable. At least the fight scenes were cool looking :/ |
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| Damn Takt is gonna kill the Musicarts. He got Walkure blushing this episode. She hell cute. Best ass of the season? |
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| Hell is definitely uber strong...but how come Walkure doesn't have a conductor? i thought they always comes in pairs?!? so many questions huh... 4/5. |
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| A fine episode overall I'm feeling a bit impatient, 5 episodes in and we still don't know anything about the world building or how the conductor-musicart thing works. Hope they explain more The new characters are interesting tho |
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