Why do females like yaoi/non-canon gay shipping?

Jul 21, 2017 7:21 AM

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Its like saying why males like lesbians/yuri.....

Jul 21, 2017 7:47 AM

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As a female... I can say... I don't fucking understand why and it's so goddamn annoying because I just want to enjoy the fucking show and don't wanna hear about the 100 page fan fiction you wrote about 2 guys who in reality would never be together! -deep heavy breathing-

Jul 21, 2017 7:58 AM

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Usually i just think to myself: "A would be cute together with B."
And then i start shipping them.
Mostly it's for fun.

And for canon ships, i just enjoy stories about gay relationships.

Jul 21, 2017 9:21 AM

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The scent of taboo.
Men opening their legs to other men and discovering how it feel to be treated as a woman.
As a woman myself it was irresistible. The shame, the surrender, all the same but still it was one of these men Disney had taught me a woman only starts to live and fight when she meets him.
I still remember about that dojin anthology based on my favorite show that I found totally by chance in my favorite anime-specialized shop. The tenants were all men, and when I think about it, it was hilarious. Did they even know what they were selling? They had found it in a cheap second-hand shop in Japan(probably a Book-Off, the pages were all worn out and yellowish) and were selling the whole collection at three times each volume's original price. I bought every volume, little by little, every month. One of the characters in my favorite show, a cute boy with a pink armor(Shun from Saint Seiya), always crying and whining about everything, was paired with another male character, his own brother in fact. It was all tame and cute though. I had always been thinking that this one had to be gay, and in this book, Hell how right I had been!! Paired with everyone you could imagine (or not), in fact! Femboy pairing wasn't my cup of tea so I focused on the other pairings the book had to offer (remember, it was an anthology), and BINGO, here came my favorite character, bad tempered and paired with a very manly VILLAIN!! HOW HOT!!!
This is when the fujoshi in me, was born. I'm now 42, and I love everything about what I have become. Yaoi is the salt and pepper of my life.
And Hentai for women is the best!

Jul 21, 2017 9:24 AM

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As a non-gay female who likes Yuri, I think I can give a theory for why lesbian women like yaoi (as for why straight women like yaoi, I believe that's already been answered).

One of the reasons I like Yuri is because typically, it avoids tropes that are common in other sub-genres of romance. So what I'm suggesting is that the lesbian fujoshis read/watch yaoi because the sub-genre has/avoids things they like/do not like.

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Jul 21, 2017 9:25 AM

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I guess for the same reasons why we males like yuri

Jul 21, 2017 9:38 AM

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Orion_Gospel said:
I guess for the same reasons why we males like yuri

Excuse me, can I ask you something? I've seen that reason many times in this thread, and as a fujoshi (with specific fetishes I'll admit) I don't understand. To me, it seems like you are saying 'because it's a taboo and therefore arousing', but is is it what you mean? Bluntly speaking, submissive x submissive (if you take in count the position women are given traditionally) < (traditionally) dominant x (traditionally) dominant. How could yuri be as arousing and taboo-breaking as yaoi? When (sorry) penetration can't use the real thing? (I'm not an english native speaker, I don't know how to express it better)

AetherzelJul 21, 2017 9:42 AM

Jul 21, 2017 10:13 AM

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Aetherzel said:

Orion_Gospel said:
I guess for the same reasons why we males like yuri

Excuse me, can I ask you something? I've seen that reason many times in this thread, and as a fujoshi (with specific fetishes I'll admit) I don't understand. To me, it seems like you are saying 'because it's a taboo and therefore arousing', but is is it what you mean? Bluntly speaking, submissive x submissive (if you take in count the position women are given traditionally) < (traditionally) dominant x (traditionally) dominant. How could yuri be as arousing and taboo-breaking as yaoi? When (sorry) penetration can't use the real thing? (I'm not an english native speaker, I don't know how to express it better)

For me, nothing is taboo. I just enjoy watching yuri (or pardon my language, lesvian porn in general), just as a female enjoys yaoi. Is it the same thing?
Probably not, as you said. But males and females, at least most of the times, have some differences, and they view different things in different ways. I don't see yuri as you said. I - most of the times- view it, exactly the way i view straight stuff (male x female)

And penetration isn't necessary the only thing that can 'turn you on" (again, sorry for my language)
I hope i made sense. And btw, i also have some fetishes as well

Jul 21, 2017 12:26 PM

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When it comes to regular anime and not smutty yaoi, sometimes in life girls think it's better than watching a straight romance, like a replacement.

Jul 21, 2017 12:34 PM

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Because that's how the world works.

Female = manservice
Male = loliservice

removing all the fucking shit and opinion aside.

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Jul 21, 2017 1:01 PM

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I don't ship a lot of yowiee couples, despite the fact that I'm an avid consumer of sports anime. If I'm gonna read BL, I'd rather read BL. And by "BL", I mean good BL series and not garbage like junjou.

Jul 21, 2017 2:10 PM

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Because it's fun I guess.

Though, personally I enjoy all kind of shipping. But I can see why people gravitate toward gay pairing in sport anime.

Jul 21, 2017 7:53 PM

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Pyxus said:
I guess its the same reason as to why men like Yuri and hentai.

I understand why you mentioned yuri but why hentai?

Jul 21, 2017 8:29 PM

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One dick is awesome, then isn't two dicks make it even more awesome.

Okay, joke aside, it is for a very short and simple reason, It is fun. :)
I usually do not seriously ship them, it is more of a comedy shipping. It is quite funny when such a teasing scene appear, which is why I love a female characters that ship all her male friends together ( in comic sense).

Jul 21, 2017 11:42 PM

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thecescshow said:
Why do males like yuri? Same reason.

This... Yes is true
but almost all yuri fandom I follow dominated by female now

Jul 22, 2017 12:31 AM

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Cause two dicks are better than one 😩👌

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Jul 22, 2017 12:46 AM

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Orion_Gospel said:

Aetherzel said:

Excuse me, can I ask you something? I've seen that reason many times in this thread, and as a fujoshi (with specific fetishes I'll admit) I don't understand. To me, it seems like you are saying 'because it's a taboo and therefore arousing', but is is it what you mean? Bluntly speaking, submissive x submissive (if you take in count the position women are given traditionally) < (traditionally) dominant x (traditionally) dominant. How could yuri be as arousing and taboo-breaking as yaoi? When (sorry) penetration can't use the real thing? (I'm not an english native speaker, I don't know how to express it better)

For me, nothing is taboo. I just enjoy watching yuri (or pardon my language, lesvian porn in general), just as a female enjoys yaoi. Is it the same thing?
Probably not, as you said. But males and females, at least most of the times, have some differences, and they view different things in different ways. I don't see yuri as you said. I - most of the times- view it, exactly the way i view straight stuff (male x female)

And penetration isn't necessary the only thing that can 'turn you on" (again, sorry for my language)
I hope i made sense. And btw, i also have some fetishes as well

Thank you so much for the answer. It's very interesting to see things from the point of view of a person of the other gender.One of my male friends who has nothing against yaoi told me one day that he found it hilarious, especially the way it's represented by female artists. He even drew some (of the R-18 category) for me. But I wish I could ask a real fudanshi. I'm sure there are who aren't gay too.

I understand the fetish point too. For me, there are some details that make one BL story 100x hotter than another.

Jul 22, 2017 3:26 AM

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Jack said:

Pyxus said:
I guess its the same reason as to why men like Yuri and hentai.

I understand why you mentioned yuri but why hentai?

Probably because males are more open to the fact that they watch hentai, and women rarely say they watch hentai I think. Just popped up in my mind

Jul 22, 2017 8:12 AM

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It's the same with guys who like yuri shipping. P.S. I'm probably one of the massive fujoshi out there.

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Jul 22, 2017 8:28 AM

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perhaps they find it "cute?" i dont know, just a possibilty

Jul 22, 2017 8:32 AM

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Hmm.....idk...but I think because its cute? and hot at the same times(?)
I rarely shipping male char in non bl/sho-ai anime, but if i do, usually it's because i find their chemistry are good, or find their banter cute etc. I prefer shipping the char from sho-ai anime tho...

Jul 22, 2017 9:23 AM

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Jul 23, 2017 7:41 AM

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Don't just assume that every female likes those kind of ships.
To answer your question - whether male or female, it's because they like to sin.

Tokyoghoul1105 said:
As a female... I can say... I don't fucking understand why and it's so goddamn annoying because I just want to enjoy the fucking show and don't wanna hear about the 100 page fan fiction you wrote about 2 guys who in reality would never be together! -deep heavy breathing-

Ikr, but take it easy there. Don't sweat too much.

Jul 23, 2017 8:43 AM

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I am a Fujoshi and I think men on men stuff is HOT!!

Jul 23, 2017 6:06 PM

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yuliyana29 said:
Don't just assume that every female likes those kind of ships.
To answer your question - whether male or female, it's because they like to sin.

Tokyoghoul1105 said:
As a female... I can say... I don't fucking understand why and it's so goddamn annoying because I just want to enjoy the fucking show and don't wanna hear about the 100 page fan fiction you wrote about 2 guys who in reality would never be together! -deep heavy breathing-

Ikr, but take it easy there. Don't sweat too much.

Its been bothering me since the beginning of my existence

Jul 23, 2017 6:29 PM

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Guys or girls together, I think women like gay more than men.

The anime community in a nutshell.

Jul 23, 2017 6:38 PM

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[quote=Aetherzel message=51617750]

Orion_Gospel said:

Aetherzel said:

Excuse me, can I ask you something? I've seen that reason many times in this thread, and as a fujoshi (with specific fetishes I'll admit) I don't understand. To me, it seems like you are saying 'because it's a taboo and therefore arousing', but is is it what you mean?
Bluntly speaking, submissive x submissive (if you take in count the position women are given traditionally) < (traditionally) dominant x (traditionally) dominant. How could yuri be as arousing and taboo-breaking as yaoi? When (sorry) penetration can't use the real thing? (I'm not an english native speaker, I don't know how to express it better)

For me, nothing is taboo.

Aetherzel said:
The scent of taboo.
Men opening their legs to other men and discovering how it feel to be treated as a woman.
As a woman myself it was irresistible. The shame, the surrender, all the same but still it was one of these men Disney had taught me a woman only starts to live and fight when she meets him.

It's also not anywhere near a taboo to me.

Haha, the description is rather... like a little bit disturbing? XD
Anyway, the idea of two guys having sex is rather repulsive to me (sorry, lack of a fitting word right now, I hope nobody takes it the wrong way), unless I really like the characters and if it's not too detailed written or drawn. Then... it's okay, there are good scenes because of the chemistry sometimes, but I'm really not into it. However, I can't say that straight sex would be sexier...
So naaah, no taboo there for me.

I don't understand what you wanted to say with the sentence I highlighted in your second quote. ^^"

amakki said:
This second type tends to also like yuri/het ships and most of them don't even consider themselves as fujoshi/fudanshi. Which isn't exactly wrong, in my opinion.

Is there a term, which describes guys or (straight) women, who are into Yuri? Just being curious.

It makes sense, if you think about the meaning of the term. I'm not so keen on to describe myself as "rotten girl", when there is nothing taboo-breaking in my eyes or I don't feel guilty or dirty about that thing.
Okay, the term is more like an self-ironic joke, but however... XD

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Jul 24, 2017 1:05 AM

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As a girl myself I'd like to ask the same question.

As for actual canon ships, I guess it's not much different than normal or yuri.

It's those non-canon ships from non-BL anime that bother me more since according to fujoshits those are perfectly "canon" ships intended by the author.

Fujoshiting 101 (based on actual replies I've got from fujoshits):

We are here to fight for the gay rights of straight characters!
Every character is gay until proven straight
Every character is gay even after proven straight
If the character claims to be straight then he's just lying to himself because he's Japanese
If the character has never confessed their love then it's true love because Japanese people don't say "I love you" to their spouses it's understood
Why can't you see that he just accepted her as his girlfriend because he's Japanese but doesn't actually love her, he's in love with that other boy!
The series perfectly portrays the LGBT community by having a "canon" and abusive straight male x another male relationship
If a non-BL anime doesn't have enough fujo-pandering scenes then it's because the Japanese are homophobic and can't show gay stuff on TV Someone please explain the existence of shounen-ai/yaoi anime to me!
My ship is always "canon" even if the author says that the MC won't end up with another guy and ever other ship is only meant for fan-service.
To find out the author's "true" intentions you need to "read-between-the-lines".
They even got married and had gay sex behind the scenes it's just the the author doesn't want to tell us
*MC develops some romantic feelings towards a female character* That bitch! *Boy kidnaps straight MC ties him up and kisses him* How romantic! You see, he didn't even resist, it's true love!

^There's no way I can even begin to understand such people.

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Jul 24, 2017 1:17 AM

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I'm not that much into Yaoi and Shounen-Ai Shippings. I like the genre but I don't ship any characters in non-Shounen-Ai/Yaoi Animes. I don't even know why I like this genre. The most Animes and Mangas I've watched or read with this genre were really good sometimes.

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Jul 24, 2017 1:39 AM

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One of the reasons for me is I find the romance more mature.

I like reading romance, no I love it, hits me with the warm and fuzzies and before I found yaoi I found myself starting to drown in cotton candy fluff of school romances. especially once I left high school. I guess because I've been out of school now for a few years that the sweet fuzzy feelings I got from shoujos started to fade but I still wanted to keep reading romances so started looking at other genres to see if there was a more young adult/mature romance out there. I was lucky because the first yaoi I read where really good ones, the classics (skip beat!!, junjo romantica, sekaiichi hatsukoi, view finder (which was my first major smut yaoi) etc) and to my surprise I found yaoi filled what I was after in the romance genre, to me yaoi is based on more mature relationships, had some great humor and had more adult drama & I got hooked. I still read shoujos because they are sweet & lovely and I do have some favorites but now I also read yaoi for the doki-doki feels.

As for non-cannon shipping... gods knows, honestly I don't even know myself. A small part is I love the fandom, some fandoms are hilarious and provide me with entertainment in itself, and I did get into some ships to be a part of that fandom but for the greater portion... honestly not a clue, but I love them, I love my little gay boats... toot-toot

Now, Titania, shall we bet? If those two would get along.

Rather than that, it would be better to bet on how many are made.

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Jul 24, 2017 1:42 AM

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Going to say something else:

Got into yaoi at 12. I tried to live without it for a while. Guess what? My sex drive full on went away. Yeah I think the characters on screen for Anime will be hot for hentai or ecchi or Yuri. :/ But Without yaoi? I literally seem to stop having actual sex or I have to watch way more ecchi and hentai for same effect. But without this imput, I just don't even have desire at all... With it, I desire men and women.

I didn't even realize I needed yaoi that much... :(

The anime community in a nutshell.

Jul 24, 2017 5:47 AM

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Honestly sometimes I view non-canon yaoi ships better then actual 'canon' straight ships that could happen if you're referring to non yaoi anime.

Like in Naruto think I actually thought Naruto x Sasuke was better ship than Naruto x Sakura or Naruto x Hinata. When its comes to the Akatsuki I tend to ship them with their partners.

Jul 24, 2017 6:38 AM

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Maou_heika said:
As a girl myself I'd like to ask the same question.

As for actual canon ships, I guess it's not much different than normal or yuri.

It's those non-canon ships from non-BL anime that bother me more since according to fujoshits those are perfectly "canon" ships intended by the author.

I feel the same way, I have no problem with canon BL. But the sheer volume of the non canon straight guy shipping (fanart, fanfic, fan videos etc) makes me shake my head.

Jul 24, 2017 6:56 AM

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Normal romance anime are boring. Straight couples in anime are for the most part boring and all the same. I think this is why I have a fascination with shounen ai (and to a point shoujo ai) because they're different and cute.
As for non canon it's mostly because my friends got me into it and it's fun shipping with them.

Jul 24, 2017 7:09 AM

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TeKSMeLater said:
Same way some males like yuri shipping. Not that I don't do it myself

Agreed! I do too. I blame my fondness on Homura and Madoka's relationship.

Jul 24, 2017 7:20 AM

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Aetherzel said:
The scent of taboo.
Men opening their legs to other men and discovering how it feel to be treated as a woman.
As a woman myself it was irresistible. The shame, the surrender, all the same but still it was one of these men Disney had taught me a woman only starts to live and fight when she meets him.

amakki said:
I don't understand what you wanted to say with the sentence I highlighted in your second quote. ^^"

Ah sorry, I tried to put too much in a single sentence. I wanted to say that as someone who grew up with Disney before discovering anime, the impression I got from all these movies with Princesses and Princes, was that every Disney Princess wasn't anyone worthy of attention before she met the Prince. You see, it's like all that propaganda that says a woman only find happiness when she got married, that it's not normal to still be single after a certain (still young) age, etc... It's like women start to live only after they found their Man. And then after that, she should follow him blindly.
You see, I'm 40 now and that was what I was taught as a little girl.
So it was irresistible to see a man supposed to 'lead', get led instead. Plus by another man.
I've always found hard to stomach the fact even if she is independent and proud, it's still the female who will always have to open herself to the male, accepting the submissive position, because well, there isn't another way.

It felt like payback, especially when the male character submitting was proud and strong (I like bara with a hint of BDSM), but it was only at the beginning because like for a lot of others, next it's the idea of men choosing to risk everything to be with another man, that seduced me.
Now I love a lot of different kinds of plots and have much more fetishes, but yes, this is how it started for me.

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Jul 24, 2017 7:25 AM

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well I like yuri pairing so it's I don't see why there's any surprise some girls like yaoi pairing

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Jul 24, 2017 7:26 AM

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Eastern_Otaku_14 said:
Agreed! I do too. I blame my fondness on Homura and Madoka's relationship.

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

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Jul 24, 2017 7:42 AM

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Ha

TeKSMeLater said:

Eastern_Otaku_14 said:
Agreed! I do too. I blame my fondness on Homura and Madoka's relationship.

Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

Thanks! MadoHomu was the first ship that got me serious about yuri.

Jul 24, 2017 8:22 AM

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Because its hot, especially bishounen. Bishounen are means to be fucked.
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I'm just that pervy.

Jul 24, 2017 8:23 AM

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Its more fun to ship couples that have no chance in being canon imo.

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Maou_heika said:
As a girl myself I'd like to ask the same question.

As for actual canon ships, I guess it's not much different than normal or yuri.

It's those non-canon ships from non-BL anime that bother me more since according to fujoshits those are perfectly "canon" ships intended by the author.

Fujoshiting 101 (based on actual replies I've got from fujoshits):

We are here to fight for the gay rights of straight characters!
Every character is gay until proven straight
Every character is gay even after proven straight
If the character claims to be straight then he's just lying to himself because he's Japanese
If the character has never confessed their love then it's true love because Japanese people don't say "I love you" to their spouses it's understood
Why can't you see that he just accepted her as his girlfriend because he's Japanese but doesn't actually love her, he's in love with that other boy!
The series perfectly portrays the LGBT community by having a "canon" and abusive straight male x another male relationship
If a non-BL anime doesn't have enough fujo-pandering scenes then it's because the Japanese are homophobic and can't show gay stuff on TV Someone please explain the existence of shounen-ai/yaoi anime to me!
My ship is always "canon" even if the author says that the MC won't end up with another guy and ever other ship is only meant for fan-service.
To find out the author's "true" intentions you need to "read-between-the-lines".
They even got married and had gay sex behind the scenes it's just the the author doesn't want to tell us
*MC develops some romantic feelings towards a female character* That bitch! *Boy kidnaps straight MC ties him up and kisses him* How romantic! You see, he didn't even resist, it's true love!

^There's no way I can even begin to understand such people.

Your post has no chill. It had me laughing good.

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Aetherzel said:

Ah sorry, I tried to put too much in a single sentence. I wanted to say that as someone who grew up with Disney before discovering anime, the impression I got from all these movies with Princesses and Princes, was that every Disney Princess wasn't anyone worthy of attention before she met the Prince. You see, it's like all that propaganda that says a woman only find happiness when she got married, that it's not normal to still be single after a certain (still young) age, etc... It's like women start to live only after they found their Man. And then after that, she should follow him blindly.
You see, I'm 40 now and that was what I was taught as a little girl..

Okay, I really understand your point, yet I can't sign it. They adapted or based their movies on old (mostly European) fairy tales and the movies were drawn decades ago.
But okay, maybe I just grew up with many of their "animal-movies" aka Lion King, this fox and the bloodhound etc... or Lilo and Stitch, so I never wasted a thought on Disney princesses. I saw the movies and shrugged them off the second after tbh. Plus, they already had Poccahontas, Mulan etc.. at this time.

However, I understand what you want to say. At first I was fascinated about gay pairings in fiction, because they felt more equal (without any dominance in mind, just personalitywise equal) or I expected them to let old-fashioned roles down.
But then I was very disappointed after I discovered all the Shounen Ais and Yaois in the anime fandom. They were boring (and even worse XD) copies from a traditional straight relationship with a even worse representation that rubbed me in all the wrong ways. (I want to mention at that point that I love feminine girls in fiction and there is nothing wrong with traditional female roles, if SHE wants that) I liked them at first however, but found them boring soon. So, I let Yaoi down.
In fact, I have seen way more equal or believable straight relationships in fiction at this point than gay ones. ^^"

I gave non-straight-couples a chance again, because of "The Mortal Instruments" (an urban fantasy young adult book series ... it got cheesy, but however...) years ago, not because of anime, and one of the protagonists, Alec, was a character I could respect as a more well-rounded / a little bit more believable person and not just a part of an Uke -Seme-pair. I had enough of this nonsense. ^^"

After that I rediscovered other (almost)-Canon gay pairs, I could respect as characters and not solely stereotypes, in anime again.
Of course, I also have "crackpairs" I like (aka not strongly hinted and just in my fangirl fantasies), but I view most male friendships as friendships, because I can't see more for myself.

Aetherzel said:
So it was irresistible to see a man supposed to 'lead', get led instead. Plus by another man.
I've always found hard to stomach the fact even if she is independent and proud, it's still the female who will always have to open herself to the male, accepting the submissive position, because well, there isn't another way.

Anyway, you can't blame the physiology of humans working that way with a heterosexual couple. ^^" There is nothing submissive or dominant with heterosexual sex (or penetration per se) by default.
I know, some psychologists said 1900-1930+ that penetration per se is an aggressive act, but I know ehh... they all were middle-aged men, who lived decades ago with a different outlook on the world AND all of them had huge problems on their own. XD

It's not by default, especially if there isn't any or at least not a big difference in the dominance (that's the "normal condition" for me... or I leave a fictional work alone XD) and enough consent and trust.
It functions just that way. Nothing more, nothing less IMO.
Or maybe I just can't help it and view those solely biological things from a more neutral / mechanical and physiological point of view. ^^"

Maybe I also just grew up in a generation with a changed view (compared to former generations) on relationships, which is wasting more thoughts on what is healthy and what is okay. By healthy, I don't mean perfect of course, just... more based on meeting on eye level and based on friendship etc...
Thereby, I won't say that these thoughts are new, they are just more common nowadays, I think.

And I always hated very dominant people in general tho, who seem to think of themselves as a military sergeant. ^^" They challenge my own stubbornness and "pride" and make me want fighting them (verbally and mentally of course XD). You shouldn't exactly challenge teachers with that attitude too much as a student in high school, but well... I felt better afterwards anyway. *whistle*

Aetherzel said:
It felt like payback, especially when the male character submitting was proud and strong (I like bara with a hint of BDSM), but it was only at the beginning because like for a lot of others, next it's the idea of men choosing to risk everything to be with another man, that seduced me.
Now I love a lot of different kinds of plots and have much more fetishes, but yes, this is how it started for me.

Ahh... payback sounds so wrong to me. ^^"
I understand the bold part more.

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Jul 24, 2017 9:29 AM

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I would assume it's similar to how we guys often like lesbians and girls gettin it on with each other. There's also an extra level of taboo to two guys rather than two girls

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They say Jesus walked on water.
People are made out of 79% water.
I can walk on people.
So I am 79% Jesus.

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I once fucked an apple pie.

Jul 24, 2017 9:35 AM

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Why do men like girl on girl action? Its for that same reason.

Jul 24, 2017 9:39 AM

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It's cute/hot to them, basically.

I've learned that most fujos either love or hate to be called fujoshis.
There's no casual "ya I'm into it" it seems.

Jul 24, 2017 10:16 PM

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sk8ter_boi said:
It's cute/hot to them, basically.

I've learned that most fujos either love or hate to be called fujoshis.
There's no casual "ya I'm into it" it seems.

Casual: Slash shipper who doesn't read or watch yaoi/shonen ai.

Moderate: only interested in shonen ai. Only interested in animated works.

Actual fujoshi: Has read and watched at least one yaoi and shonen ai series. I would say reading manga is a huge part of the base. Having ships is too but, having canon stuff is more to the heart of it.

Crazy person: Ships classmates to obsessive levels and writes fanfic. (there was a girl....)

The anime community in a nutshell.

Jul 24, 2017 10:25 PM

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The same reason that males who aren't exclusively gay like yuri.

Jul 25, 2017 2:00 AM

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The same way males like yuri I guess...

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This is a really bad (obvious?) question.

Maybe because they're cartoon (anime) characters' but I've always "shipped" the couple which felt most natural based on their world building and character interactions.

I'm 100% straight male - 120% even. (Gotta you know... satiate my security)

But I've absolutely shipped male on male in the right context and world building; the two most prominent examples being Mikaela & Yu (Owari no Seraph) and Shion and Nezumi (No.6)

I've also of course not been adverse female x female pairings such as Madoka and Homura (Madoka Magica) or Kousaka Reina & Oumae Kumiko (Sound Euphonium)

Most of the time the hetero male x female pairing makes the most sense, however.

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