Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru. VOLUME 10 Discussion

testamentKAISER said:


Is this about Yukino informing 8man what course she will get but will not tell her own sister?

Nayre said:


yep around that part:


my head is spinning for trying to understand those line and the conclusion that come up my mind was that Yukino lied to hachiman about her career path. Haruno took science but yukino said she will take liberal arts. Its precisely from the last line "Nothing Change" that struck me to arrive to that conclusion. I maybe wrong that's why i need some guidance here to let my mind stay sane (a bit exaggerated there) and to have peace with my thoughts.

testamentKAISER said:


Remember, the time when Hayama invited 8man in a double date with Orimoto? After that, the confrontation, plus Haruno revealing herself to the group (although Hikki knew she was there already)
Haruno said to Yukino, something like pushing all the responsibilities to anyone available/capable, and this also what triggers Yukinon to run for sc prez to prove something to Haruno.
Basically her major flaw is no matter how independent Yukino looks like it seems that she always cling/depends on other people. (In her childhood, Haruno and maybe Hayama(?), and atm Hikki and Yui)
That's why i think Hikki said that it is really not trusting someone. From what i can tell from that conversation.
(Although for me, depending on someone is a sign of trusting that individual even if it's a little.)

Nayre said:


Lost there for second (sorry). So what your trying to say. Though Yukino has finally remove from the grasp of his older sister, haruno, by not following her in the science department, Yukino still can't manage to decide for her own. In that sense, when Hachiman told her that he is planning on taking liberal arts. That serves as trigger for her to move to liberal arts as well. But what im confuse is about the TRUST that yukinon have on hachiman by telling her career path. Why did he doubt about that?

testamentKAISER said:


The same doubt 8man has on everything. An example of this is Yui giving him hints of liking him but brushes it off as Yui just being a nice person.

TsukiCrasher said:
I was confused with what Haruno said. Was Yukino really relies on others too much? Take cultural festival arc for example; Yukino didn't rely on others until Hayama and Meguri tell her to rely on other people. Then, when Hachiman and Yui visit her (at her apartment), Yui asks Yukino to rely on her and Hachiman.

And from all conversations between Hachiman and Hiratsuka-sensei about Yukino, I don't think Yukino is the person Haruno thought she was. Was Haruno really understand Yukino? To me, it seems that Hachiman, Yui and Hiratsuka-sensei understand Yukino better than Haruno.

Silver4000 said:
The volume was rather short, very short compared with the previous ones....
And the way it ended, ugh... it's one of the rare endings that makes me say "what happened? What did he answered?".

Hayama didn't quite got the development that I wanted, but he'll probably will drop that fake smile when the trouble of the Yukinoshita family is over.
And about those memorandums, if they all belong to the same person I would say that it's one of the Yukinoshita sisters. Most likely Yukino, It coulnd't be Hayama since no one pities him, they all look up to him, and it could never be Hikki since he never was disgusted with the way he was (only with some actions he took), so most likely it would be Yukino, but since Haruno spoke of that genuine thing (were did she heard that from btw? Iroha?) it could also be her, since after all, we don't know that much about her.