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Mar 18, 2021 2:00 AM

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SheevPalpatine said:



I know both are not the same thing but I think I misunderstood about how the worldline works. Seems like its settled that only 1 worldline exists. Always thought it was hypothetical since theres no way for any of the characters can prove that. Thanks btw.
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leev said:
SheevPalpatine said:



I know both are not the same thing but I think I misunderstood about how the worldline works. Seems like its settled that only 1 worldline exists. Always thought it was hypothetical since theres no way for any of the characters can prove that. Thanks btw.


It is literally stated by the authors in the Tips Section of 0. So it is not a hypothesis by the characters in universe.
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Mar 18, 2021 2:45 AM

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SheevPalpatine said:
leev said:

I know both are not the same thing but I think I misunderstood about how the worldline works. Seems like its settled that only 1 worldline exists. Always thought it was hypothetical since theres no way for any of the characters can prove that. Thanks btw.


It is literally stated by the authors in the Tips Section of 0. So it is not a hypothesis by the characters in universe.
Nope I haven't played 0 VN.
Apr 9, 2021 10:43 PM

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That was a mindfuck

Poor Suzuha
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How come Okarin hasn't tried to stop her from departing to 1975. The _most_ sensible thing to do.

For instance, he could've asked Suzuha to go travel back just a few days, and then meet them. Or rewrite the time so that she never tries leaving.

T_T
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cdkrot said:
How come Okarin hasn't tried to stop her from departing to 1975. The _most_ sensible thing to do.

For instance, he could've asked Suzuha to go travel back just a few days, and then meet them. Or rewrite the time so that she never tries leaving.

T_T


I don't really get your point... her mission is to travel to 1975.
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SciADV_Maniac said:
cdkrot said:
How come Okarin hasn't tried to stop her from departing to 1975. The _most_ sensible thing to do.

For instance, he could've asked Suzuha to go travel back just a few days, and then meet them. Or rewrite the time so that she never tries leaving.

T_T


I don't really get your point... her mission is to travel to 1975.


This episode reveals that this mission was foolish and leads to tragic/almost tragic consequence :((.

But if she stayed with them they could've replanned for something better. (Or at least reattempted with fixed time travel machine)
May 12, 2021 2:54 PM

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cdkrot said:
SciADV_Maniac said:


I don't really get your point... her mission is to travel to 1975.


This episode reveals that this mission was foolish and leads to tragic/almost tragic consequence :((.

But if she stayed with them they could've replanned for something better. (Or at least reattempted with fixed time travel machine)


Yeah, and meanwhile, the Rounders will raid the lab, kill Mayuri, and take Okabe, Kurisu and Daru away to France. Didn't you pay attention to what's happening?

Also, spoilers from later episodes:

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May 13, 2021 12:20 PM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
cdkrot said:


This episode reveals that this mission was foolish and leads to tragic/almost tragic consequence :((.

But if she stayed with them they could've replanned for something better. (Or at least reattempted with fixed time travel machine)


Yeah, and meanwhile, the Rounders will raid the lab, kill Mayuri, and take Okabe, Kurisu and Daru away to France. Didn't you pay attention to what's happening?

Also, spoilers from later episodes:












Well, you make a really good point. But I guess it was possible to change something from the plan? E.g. send with Suzuha a book on what it is in the future or adjusting the destination time point to be closer to the present.

P.s. not reading the spoiler, since I'm still watching (argggh, it was really hard since MAL's reply form is in plain text)
May 13, 2021 12:26 PM

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@cdkrot You can just ping me like that if you don't want to see spoilers in the qoutes :)



E.g. send with Suzuha a book on what it is in the future or adjusting the destination time point to be closer to the present



I don't really understand what do you mean here.
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May 13, 2021 12:31 PM
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SciADV_Maniac said:
@cdkrot You can just ping me like that if you don't want to see spoilers in the qoutes :)



E.g. send with Suzuha a book on what it is in the future or adjusting the destination time point to be closer to the present



I don't really understand what do you mean here.


Thanks :). It's really more of a website issue, but thanks!

I mean, the largest problem with her time travel was because she forgets everything. It was shown how Okarin and Kurisu try to squeeze the bike into the capsule, so I guess it should be possible to record a currently known information and mission objective into a book or cell phone and send it with her.

The second proposal was to send her back a year or a few (this should be easier than rewrite the story so she doesn't travel at all), and this still gives some room of opportunities.
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cdkrot said:
SciADV_Maniac said:
@cdkrot You can just ping me like that if you don't want to see spoilers in the qoutes :)



I don't really understand what do you mean here.


Thanks :). It's really more of a website issue, but thanks!

I mean, the largest problem with her time travel was because she forgets everything. It was shown how Okarin and Kurisu try to squeeze the bike into the capsule, so I guess it should be possible to record a currently known information and mission objective into a book or cell phone and send it with her.

The second proposal was to send her back a year or a few (this should be easier than rewrite the story so she doesn't travel at all), and this still gives some room of opportunities.


For the 1st suggestion: they didn't know that the time machine will malfunction and cause Suzuha amnesia. Also, even if she takes a book/paper with her with the mission details, it doesn't mean she will follow it. She would probably also forget that she has something like that with her.

For the 2nd option: she would still suffer amnesia from the malfunctioning time machine.

I can't really see any other possible option what Okabe did: make Suzuha to travel before the storm damages the time machine.

And if you already saw Episode 17, you know that

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SciADV_Maniac said:
cdkrot said:


Thanks :). It's really more of a website issue, but thanks!

I mean, the largest problem with her time travel was because she forgets everything. It was shown how Okarin and Kurisu try to squeeze the bike into the capsule, so I guess it should be possible to record a currently known information and mission objective into a book or cell phone and send it with her.

The second proposal was to send her back a year or a few (this should be easier than rewrite the story so she doesn't travel at all), and this still gives some room of opportunities.


For the 1st suggestion: they didn't know that the time machine will malfunction and cause Suzuha amnesia. Also, even if she takes a book/paper with her with the mission details, it doesn't mean she will follow it. She would probably also forget that she has something like that with her.

For the 2nd option: she would still suffer amnesia from the malfunctioning time machine.

I can't really see any other possible option what Okabe did: make Suzuha to travel before the storm damages the time machine.

And if you already saw Episode 17, you know that



I mean they didn't in the original line, but this is solvable with backleaping or D-mail from Okarin to himself a few hours before The Departure. Also, I'm not sure, but describing previous history might help with an amnesia
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1. I'm quite satisfied with Daru turning out to be her father. Very interesting.

Daru asked who the mother was. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess it is Moeka. Notice how Daru and Amane have the same hair color -- and how Moeka also bears somewhat of a resemblance to Amane. It's fathomable. Plus, in Episode 12 there was that shot of Amane aiming a gun at Moeka after beating up the thugs, and vice versa -- which would be an ironic synergy.

2. MAYURI. The character I disliked so much just did something extremely likable for the first time. How were the lab members not astonished. That was the most intelligent thing she did in the entire series. Connecting all of the clues together.
I kind of suspected it was Daru with the "Barrell" Titor and how Daru was the one caught with the ring dealer. Plus, the second they said "Taru" (an observation Mayuri initially made). But for Mayuri to make the connection with the Future Gadget format (hence the discussion between Okarin and Kurisu about Future Gadget 2; justifying the relevance of that scene) and noting that Okarin and Barrell co-founding the resistance.

Anway, Mayuri is a very unlikeable character to me. I'm probably an outlier and people will hate me for it, but everything she's ever done has gotten on my nerves. But the scene of her explaining why Daru is the father was impressive. The character of Mayuri analyzed all of the evidence -- which was, in tandem, was presented to the audience throuhgout the past couple episodes. We had ample time to draw the conclusion ourselves and yet many people probably never made the connection.

So, points to Mayuri. You've somewhat redeemed yourself. It turns out you ACTUALLY have some intelligence and problem-solving skills in you.

3. I also like how they kind of incorporated Mr. Braun's character into the plot.

And what eventually happened to Amane is kind of tragic. Failing, losing her mind, and killing herself. Geez. "Her life was a waste." That was pretty dark.


Regarding the end, I have to say I'm a bit lost as to how Mayuri might've been saved.
Jul 1, 2021 12:19 PM

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Daru is the goddamn fater lol, that was a suprise.
Can't believe that it was cause of Mayurii that they found out who the dad is, amazing.. is she actually ALBERT EINSTEIN?
Plan failed, rip suzuha.. I dont have any words left to say. IT HURTS!


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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Jul 3, 2021 6:30 AM

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I wonder who the wife is
I wish to see more Suzuha, the letter was painful to read
Jul 6, 2021 7:18 PM

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The emotion I felt during the second half of this EP was up there alongside the impact my 10's have given me, something tells me this will most likely join them on my list as a 10 at this rate.
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The emotion I felt during the second half of this EP was up there alongside the impact my 10's have given me, something tells me this will most likely join them on my list as a 10 at this rate.

Oh believe me, it will, this isn't the only emotional episode, there's plenty more ahead that will make a grown ass man cry.

Steins;Gate will become one of your favorites, I guarantee it.
Jul 11, 2021 12:54 AM

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I've a question:
In episode 2, we see that Okabe remembers that John Titor appeared in 2000 in the US (which nobody else does). How does he remember that, given that Suzuha hasn't time traveled to 1975 yet only to die later on in 2000?

By episode 2, she has travelled only to 2010 and left no trace of her existence in 2002 yet.

PS: If this is explained later on, please don't spoil it. You may simply tell me to wait more.
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I've a question:
In episode 2, we see that Okabe remembers that John Titor appeared in 2000 in the US (which nobody else does). How does he remember that, given that Suzuha hasn't time traveled to 1975 yet only to die later on in 2000?

By episode 2, she has travelled only to 2010 and left no trace of her existence in 2002 yet.

PS: If this is explained later on, please don't spoil it. You may simply tell me to wait more.


If you remember that there was a worldline change in Episode 1, you should know the answer to the question
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Jul 11, 2021 7:43 AM

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SciADV_Maniac said:
goodguygreg said:
I've a question:
In episode 2, we see that Okabe remembers that John Titor appeared in 2000 in the US (which nobody else does). How does he remember that, given that Suzuha hasn't time traveled to 1975 yet only to die later on in 2000?

By episode 2, she has travelled only to 2010 and left no trace of her existence in 2002 yet.

PS: If this is explained later on, please don't spoil it. You may simply tell me to wait more.


If you remember that there was a worldline change in Episode 1, you should know the answer to the question

Do you mean the one which happened due to Okabe's mail to Daru informing him of Makise's death?
Jul 11, 2021 8:55 AM

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SciADV_Maniac said:


If you remember that there was a worldline change in Episode 1, you should know the answer to the question

Do you mean the one which happened due to Okabe's mail to Daru informing him of Makise's death?


Yup

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Jul 11, 2021 12:40 PM

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Okay. So, if I'm not wrong,
SciADV_Maniac said:
goodguygreg said:

Do you mean the one which happened due to Okabe's mail to Daru informing him of Makise's death?


Yup

(char limit char limit)

Okay. That seems to make sense to me. Thanks!
Jul 14, 2021 9:36 AM
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Im convinced I wanted to hate this on my first watch. This rewatch feels like a first time with this show, I'm feeling every emotion right now at a point in the show I once thought was the weakest. Really sad I wasted my first time but I'm glad I could change my opinion on this show even if it was months too late.
Jul 23, 2021 5:50 PM
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this show really is that unpredictable with its twists.

Aug 2, 2021 6:39 AM

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This episode was really good. It was very emotional when part-time warrior said she has failed. Given how she knew stuff about lab members I thought she was Okabes daughter from start.
Aug 16, 2021 1:54 PM

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Why couldet okarin time leap and stop suzu from going o.o
Because if Okarin did stop suzu, then mayuri's death wouldn't have been able to be prevented, therefore suzus death=mayuri's survival
Aug 17, 2021 6:02 PM

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omg so mah boi daru didn dy a virgin?? im so prowd of him ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ
Oct 13, 2021 2:04 AM

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So many things happened and even tho she failed it still worked out in the end by Myuri being saved
Apr 22, 2022 12:15 AM

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ive never gotten this attached to characters this fast
May 2, 2022 5:10 AM
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Best episode so far the show really went way and beyond of the complications of time travel than any other series i know it's been complicated before this episode but seeing it first hand how it happens just makes you appreciate like damn this is amazing also there was some explanation i seen where the guy in the comment section explained why okabe used the Dmail instead of the time leap it was hella detailed and confusing couldn't fully understand it but i kinda get it lol

Also the letter was so emotional

But the most tragic of them all is suzuha not remembering he's dad and the time suzuha and the lab members spent time together fixing the time travel machine for the sake of bright future plssss okabe don't make suzuha's sacrifice be in vain
May 12, 2022 5:20 AM
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Oh my god. This episode had me absolutely balling my eyes out. Such an emotional rollercoaster

Also, Daru actually managed to get laid atleast once? Guess there's still hope for us afterall.
Oct 4, 2022 8:59 AM

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I actually enjoyed the first 12 episodes but shit got real after episode 13.
Oct 4, 2022 9:01 AM

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I wonder who the wife is
I wish to see more Suzuha, the letter was painful to read

Given the fact the man can build a time machine probably a really attractive lady that will never appear in the show.
Oct 4, 2022 1:34 PM
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This episode ****ed me up so bad dude. First the sheer emotions behind Daru and Suzuha's only meeting as daughter and father in that timeline was super bittersweet, and then came the part that messed me up the absolute most. Suzuha is one of my favorite characters in this show, and seeing her leave was super hard to watch for me. The thing that made it all the worse though was the note she left for Okabe when she died. Every time the note read "I failed," it was another gut punch of sadness for me. Such a fantastic episode, and... just wow I love this show so much. I'm playing the V/N now and I'm nearing this part of the game, and I'm dreading the note this time around so much.
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Oct 27, 2022 8:07 PM

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wow, that was a pretty emotional and great episode. I can't believe that Mayuri came to the conclusion that Itaru is Suzuha's father, which is crazy. I was very shocked and never expected that. That letter from Suzuha informing the lab members was really sad, I felt those emotions. Okabe sends another d-mail to not follow her and let her go to 1975 to change the future. It seems that Mayuri is okay and the future did change, despite the meter going from .33 to .4? Gonna keep going, this is so good.
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Suzuha, you are the best....I cannot believe you are not gonna be in the next episodes.


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May 28, 2023 9:13 PM

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Damn.. what an insane episode, best one so far.

I understand why this anime is so higly rated now, I’ve never seen something quite like this.
May 28, 2023 10:50 PM
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Damn.. what an insane episode, best one so far.

I understand why this anime is so higly rated now, I’ve never seen something quite like this.

Yeah mate, I was loving this anime since episode 12 but this was the episode that completely changed my perspective on Steins;Gate, this episode hit me in the feels pretty damn hard, this is one of those episodes where you lie down on your bed, look at the ceiling and ponder about life, I just love and respect an anime that do the emotional moments correctly and Steins;Gate passed that test with flying colors, this is one of the most emotional animes I've watched so far.

And yeah, this won't be the only emotional episode, there are plenty more ahead that will make even an adult cry. The 1st half of Steins;Gate is mostly slice of life and comedy but the 2nd half of Steins;Gate is an emotional roller coaster.
Jun 17, 2023 4:42 AM
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this episode hit hard, the show is peak anime
Oct 27, 2023 1:46 PM
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this episode was insane
Nov 2, 2023 9:00 PM

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That was another great episode, but depressing. Depressing at first because Suzuha went back in time but failed and committed suicide because of that. Depressing the second time because she succeeded, but everyone lost the memories they had with Suzuha working together on the time machine and everything.

I wonder how things will go now, and whether we will ever see Suzuha again. But even if we do, it won't be the "same" Suzuha. That is now lost forever in the strands of time.

I wonder why Suzuha didn't leave a message or anything like that, maybe because the time they spent on the time machine disappeared. What about the IBN 5100?
Nov 5, 2023 4:40 AM
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confusing episode
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@ReganDesu How is this episode even confusing? it was easy to understand, what exactly didn't you understand about the episode?
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This episode was so incredibly emotional with all the stuff around Suzu going on and all, I cried three times over it. This anime is so incredible, I really can't wait to start playing the games after it! And the plot twists and reveals and how it all fits together in the end are so so good, but now I am wondering what the very original world line must have been, because clearly we must have been starting SOMEWHERE in between worldlines as we now know, but I believe we must have been starting with Okarins awareness or with his Reading Steiner ability together now? But on the other hand he was there for world line changes before in theory so... uh.. maybe the Reading Steiner thingy has become a thing later too and was not "just there", which would also make sense? Or am I reading way too much into this and there is not as much depth? I dunno but I really cried over Suzu lol
Dec 27, 2023 9:50 PM

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This episode was incredibly grim. Suzuha committing suicide, dying of an illness, and basically everything converging into this odd timeline. It's a mindfuck.
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man i was so shock when they came to know she failed to change the past but thank god okabe big-brain got the d-mail idea. this is most sad episode of any anime i have watched till now.
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