A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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Yumekichi11 said: Wasabi said: Really? Did they just stick Touma into the arc for the sake of him being the main character? He did absolute shit. Fuck Touma, and Misaka, and Index, and whoever. Accelerator should be the main character. Accelerator will always >>>>>>> Touma. Why? Amazing evil laugh, amazing powers that are God like and he saved a cuter loli than index was. OK I loled. Though I still like Touma's personality. |
| I thought Accelerator was amazing... but now he's more than amazing he's AWESOME! |
| amazing ep. The teleporter fight seemed weird though. I think Kuroko in Railgun said it displaces anything in the target location? So wouldn't they try and teleport regions of air or cloth into the walls of each other's hearts? It's a shonen so they can't really do that, but I'd at least expect a teleporter fight to be more fast-paced and about getting the first hit in. Dropping objects on top of people seems like an weak move in contrast to severing pillars in Railgun. Using a gun was definitely a low point. It was a shame Awaki didn't try to fight accelerator, but I guess I can understand cause he's so badass |
| Tornado wings, fuck yeah.. Also, Misses big rack from the OP shows up next episode. |
| Accelerator: Falcon punch~ DuroDeMatar said: Accelerator FTW, and yeah, the womans are getting the worst punches lately. I don´t know if it is because I don´t remember well the season 1, but isn´t this season more bloody than the first? I have that feeling Excellent episode with the final of the arc. grklein said: If it weren´t for Touma and his Image Breaker Kuroko would be probably dead you know... he isn´t totally useless... Season 2 will be darker then season 1 as the story itself grows darker and season 3 will be darker then 2 until they reach the 'happy' end lol Removed quote chain |
desolatoNov 25, 2010 12:48 PM
alexcampos said: I thought that part was funny, plus this is a science arc which means Index isn't really needed like I said in the last discussion. When she becomes useless in a magic arc THEN you may convince me but as of now, I haven't seen that happen. OH, and seriously, I guess Index is being reduced to being a retarded child whose only appearance is to UTTERLY ANNOY THE VIEWERS of this show... As for this episode, FUCKING ACCELERATOR OWNS!!!!!! HE MADE THIS EPISODE!!! When I saw him attacking Awaki, I was thinking that he is badass incarnate. I was also thinking why we had a spin-off for Misaka instead of Accelerator? He DESERVES ONE!!!! Also Awaki shooting Kuroko was good but I don't see how Kuroko "broke" Awaki. Sounds like a bullshit scientific reason for her to go batshit insane (hmmmm, this sounds familiar. Didn't someone say this about the magic/religion stuff too?). Overall, best episode (THANK YOU ACCELERATOR, PLEASE COME BACK SOON AND OWN MORE PEOPLE!) As for the next episode and arc, all I can say is that all of your bodies will NEVER be ready. |
| The action was incredible. Over the top and brutal, but very nicely done. I actually enjoyed Awaki pulling out the gun as it was unexpected. And for that, being punched in the face like that was deserved (though probably not by Accelerator). |
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| The way she 'broke' her is because Kuroko spoke about how flawed and stupid her goal is and the real reason for people getting hurt is her and not her powers. Anyways it was already said that Awaki was messed up in the head, so that added onto it. |
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| I feel sorry for the Accelerator loosing his calculation ability. But I'm glad he is back with his power. For Awaki it's to bad she had to face his frustration and the tornado wing were AWESOME! This whole episode was done very well, just whats with Awaki snapping after shooting? |
CrusherXNov 19, 2010 8:51 PM
| Apparently everyone forgot the whole fact that Awaki was about to teleport a large chunk of the building on top of Kuroko. The only reason it didn't happen was because Touma cancelled the teleport at the end. So yes, he was pretty much the only one that could have stopped that...without injuring Kuroko in the process that is (technically Mikoto could have used her railgun, but the ensuing wreck produced by it could have injured her). Cyclose said: Kuroko was too injured to do the honors herself. Besides, Accelerator is like the secondary hero of Index, one might say. It was a nice touch that it seems that he sort of did it as a favor to Last Order. He really has a soft spot for her.I didn't give this 5/5 (although this is a pretty good arc especially the beginning of this episode). Like everyone had said, Accelerator finishing off Awaki seems like a big no-no-no. I wanted Kuroko for it (as her motivation shows in the beginning). Sigh. I was disappointed that it wasn't Kuroko who ended Awaki so this is 4/5. And next episode will be about Oriana Thomson :OOOOOOOOOOO CAN'T WAIT TOO! (Btw, this arc is the one I've been waiting for. The Kuroko vs Awaki arc, and not the Accelerator vs Awaki scene-fag. |
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| Touma running and jumping into debris looked so crazy and impossible. He freakin defied the law of physics xDD well I guess its something a level 0 can do The teleport battle was so epic yet short :( and accelerator finishing Awaki off was total pwnage(imba much xDD) Next episode: Komoe-sensei~ <3 |
DenjaXNov 19, 2010 9:36 PM
| Well in the light novel it was said that Misaka used all of those items to make magnetic stairs for Touma to run up on. |
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Sucrose said: Tornado wings, fuck yeah.. Also, Misses big rack from the OP shows up next episode. THIS. Also, Accelerator's vector pawnch |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| Omg guys, did you see Accelerator pwn? Waw. |
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DoubleDango said: That epic pwnage was the highlight of this episode!Omg guys, did you see Accelerator pwn? Waw. |
Kenju said: Well, the debris was pretty neatly positioned. We have to remember that since this is an anime they won't bother to explain every little visual detail, especially considering they were trying to pack the whole volume into two episodes. It's one of the drawbacks of anime versus Light Novels. The Novel will be very specific while the anime won't ussually remind you of every little thing as a way to save time, unless it's one of those long-running series.Well in the light novel it was said that Misaka used all of those items to make magnetic stairs for Touma to run up on. |
Leon-GunNov 19, 2010 10:23 PM
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| Someone explain to me who is going to clean up that mess Accelerator made? |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| is there going to be more women abuse next arc? cuz DIS GURL GOT ER AIR KNOCKED OUTT and her nose is definitely broken. 5/5 just for the accelerator part i watched it over and over |
| Touma didn't do much this arc and not much Index either which was good. the best part was Accelerator breaking that bitches face. ok but not great arc. biribiri and Touma had like no interaction to. oh well next time looks more interesting. |
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Confucius said: Someone explain to me who is going to clean up that mess Accelerator made? I'm sure all those stupid self automated robots will have a hand on it... Either way, Accelerator was great, I hope to see more of him in future episodes. |
SinfulZero said: is there going to be more women abuse next arc? cuz DIS GURL GOT ER AIR KNOCKED OUTT and her nose is definitely broken. 5/5 just for the accelerator part i watched it over and over A man striking a woman is not automatically abuse. Abuse happens over an extended period of time and involves heavy amounts of mental domineering. Generally there is a relationship in place that is being manipulated to twist her into something meek and submissive. It involves social isolation and all sorts of nasty shit. As serious an issue as abuse is, that's now what we just saw. We saw combat. Plain and simple. Same as if any woman got shot in a warzone, or got struck while participating in gang based turf wars, or any number of similar situations. She knowingly made powerful enemies, and got hurt because of it. I think it was alex who said something about the problem with man on woman combat being the discrepancy in muscle mass. Combat here relies very little on muscle mass, and even if it did it's a situation where a fair fight isn't really relevant. It's not a friendly sparing tournament. She's stealing top secret military grade government property. Even with all that aside, were she a male it wouldn't have made a difference, as the discrepancy in power had the odds stacked ridiculously against move point girl. Plus she was already injured. The difference in muscle mass between genders is about the furthest thing from relevant right now. |
| Wow. That was one amazing episode. Teleporter battle, Misaka clones, Touma jumping across chunks of a building, and especially the part with Accelerator. VECTOR PAUNCH. The arc itself was fairly decent imo, but I still loved it because the Science side characters made an appearance. Even better, Kuroko wasn't being annoying, and Last Order shows up again. The part where she's talking to herself is cute~ 5/5 episode for sure. Also, I noticed something interesting. While Accelerator was beating the crap out of Awaki (lol :D), he says something along the lines of "There is now only one way to proceed from here", and says "Ippo Tsuko" (One-Way Road) somewhere in the sentence. Is that a reference to his name, or is it just me? |
| Wow, WTF, what a violent episode? Watching lolis kick their own asses like that was PURE WIN, I couldnt' avoid wanting more... but a dude, overpowered hitting a girl like that? I can't accept that. If he was weaker and she a Super Saiyan I would laugh, but like this is idk. There are a few things I don't quite understand: - Why did Accelerator kick the bad girl's ass so hard? Did he have something against her from before, or something? I don't see the connection. - Is she dead? I mean, hitting the wall of a building at that distance can't possibly leave someone alive... not to mention the subsequent fall. - Why did Biribiri shoot her Railgun at that building? In which way was it needed? |
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| I need moar last order. She's all hng and shit. Index2 is proving to be overflowing with loli violence. I can't say it wasn't somewhat uncomfortable, but I can say it was definitely awesome. |
| Having read the novel, I think the arc would've been better if was at least 3 eps. The scene about Kuroko rejecting Awaki's offer and how she states how foolish it was should've had more dialogue in it. (it was Kuroko's crowning moment of awesome in that scene too. :( ) The very reason why Awaki snapped after shooting Kuroko was because of the fact that she kept on blaming about not wanting to hurt anyone because of her abilities yet she still ended up hurting someone without the use of her power. I was quite disappointed by how rushed the arc was, though I loved how certain scenes were greatly adapted from the novel (like the way Awaki snapped, the conversation of the SISTERs and Accelerator being badass with his Falcon Vector punch) except for the part where Misaka opened the way for Touma to save Kuroko, I think it lacked some detail there. I like Awaki especially in the later volumes, but I think she really deserved that in the end of that arc. It still was a good watch so I'd give the ep a 7/10. |
Shiki63Nov 20, 2010 4:07 AM
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UnknownFact said: He kicked her ass so hard because he had been asked to take her down. He doesn't go easy with this shit, unless he's having fun, but then that's more of a sadism thing than mercy.Wow, WTF, what a violent episode? Watching lolis kick their own asses like that was PURE WIN, I couldnt' avoid wanting more... but a dude, overpowered hitting a girl like that? I can't accept that. If he was weaker and she a Super Saiyan I would laugh, but like this is idk. There are a few things I don't quite understand: - Why did Accelerator kick the bad girl's ass so hard? Did he have something against her from before, or something? I don't see the connection. - Is she dead? I mean, hitting the wall of a building at that distance can't possibly leave someone alive... not to mention the subsequent fall. - Why did Biribiri shoot her Railgun at that building? In which way was it needed? I don't know if she's dead or not. Touma mentioned her being beat up though, not dead. I imagine if he'd found a body, or he couldn't get her medical attention he would have stated that directly. Misaka had to shoot the railgun to create the opening and the bridge so touma could get up there. Not enough time to take the stairs. A little bit ridiculous? Probably. Keeping in mind the subject matter of the show we're watching, and the rule of cool, I think it's within acceptable limits. Maybe pushing them a bit. One of those things where the ridiculousness of it didn't hit me for a while until after the initial read though. |
| yeah more biriri is always nice. I like how they make a connection between the animes. |
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| Thanks Gangler. Yeah it's implied that she did not die. But if she's human, she should have. I agree with Shiki 63, the scene where "Misaka opened the way for Touma to save Kuroko" lacked detail. Yeah... it's still a bit ridiculous use of power though... but oh well. Tnx |
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| It's always been an unwritten rule in shonen anime that if you're strong enough, defenses will adjust accordingly. I like to think of it as a hitpoint system. It explains why some characters can survive things like impaling, or the loss of multiple galons of blood without medical assistance, despite in theory being biologically human. Admittedly this is the first instance of index using this principle though. The show is better when it keeps the damage real seeming, as rediculous as that may sound. Once they start shrugging off mortal wounds it ruins the suspense of all the injuries incurred during battle. Personally, I'm betting she got some alone time with the heaven canceler. Yes she should have been dead long before medical aid could be an issue, but this would still bring it within acceptable levels for me. |
| Best ep so far, imho. I think that Index II is somehow versus female characters too, lol. |
SinfulZero said: Yeah same her and I noticed that the way those things on his back that make fly were it looked like he had 4 devil wings. It can makes you think that only evil people tend to hurt women but to me he is more of the "Devil may cry" and the cry is being merciful/nice at time.I watched it over and over Gangler said: Gangler said: Accelerator earned his sadism from the clone killings no human being in his mind would be normal after killing 10 000 clones that have the same result as if you killed a human being. Sadism was a coping way for him not to go insane. I though he figured it out more than anything from chibi Misaka.He kicked her ass so hard because he had been asked to take her down. He doesn't go easy with this shit, unless he's having fun, but then that's more of a sadism thing than mercy. Gangler said: I think it was more she KO and recovered only to escape and report perhaps to what remains of the science syndicate.I don't know if she's dead or not. Touma mentioned her being beat up though, not dead. I imagine if he'd found a body, or he couldn't get her medical attention he would have stated that directly. Gangler said: It was ridiculous but she knew very well Touma could cancel it and trusted with her life Touma's ability. Misaka had to shoot the railgun to create the opening and the bridge so touma could get up there. Not enough time to take the stairs. A little bit ridiculous? Probably. Gangler said: To me it was realizing that Kuroko might have suffered far more abuse at the end of LN to be sterile and not have kids. Perhaps she knows that and goes with Yuri, knowing fully she could never have kids already, a sad possibility after she got kicked the way Musujime did to her in this episode.. One of those things where the ridiculousness of it didn't hit me for a while until after the initial read though. |
Shiki63 said: HThe very reason why Awaki snapped after shooting Kuroko was because of the fact that she on blaming about not wanting to hurt anyone because of her abilities yet she still ended up hurting someone without the use of her power. Thanks for stating that quite succinctly. I had assumed she used Move Point to teleport the gun to her (thus using her power). I had no idea she had a gun on her the whole time and thus didn't use her power. She didn't seem like the person who wouldn't want to hurt someone. I mean, she really hated the Ace of Tokiwadai, and people with those sorts of grudges usually want to hut others... so it just struck me as... odd? Out of character? Yeah there we go. It seemed really out of character for Awaki to sputter on about that having never mentioned it in any of her other crazy conversations. |
Meddigo said: I also assumed but then where does not LN even hint at her having that gun on her? I did not see a place where she could have it. I do giver her props to showing us her nice breasts (at least the shape was always visible). Shiki63 said: Thanks for stating that quite succinctly. I had assumed she used Move Point to teleport the gun to her (thus using her power). I had no idea she had a gun on her the whole time and thus didn't use her power.HThe very reason why Awaki snapped after shooting Kuroko was because of the fact that she on blaming about not wanting to hurt anyone because of her abilities yet she still ended up hurting someone without the use of her power. Meddigo said: I though her theories was great in regards to transfer the abilities or create chaos through animal abilities, now that would be whole different level of world reality should animals have the abilities of humans not wanting them.She didn't seem like the person who wouldn't want to hurt someone. |
| Sooo when did Touma get super powers and lightning fast reflexes so he could jump trough a mess of falling debris, supporting his steps upwards, which defies the law of gravity altogether since they are, well falling^^ And then easilly with one hand, stop a massive piece of concrete, weighing at least several hundred kilos (low estimate) And don't give me the "they where hovering due to Awaki's power", as far as I could tell she was merely 'shaking' the building making it collapse. And if the pieces actually where to float, well then Touma would be seriously dead as soon as he nudged that concrete^^ Here I thought this was supposed to be a "science" arc -.-' Really there's always such a massive quality drop as soon Touma enters the picture, imho Index and Touma should stick to decorating the DVDs and possibly appearing in the ED. |
| great ep best of the season so far |
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| What a load of crap this was. The arc started off great, but then the Move Point girl went nuts out of fucking nowhere and everything just... I don't even know how to describe it. It was complete shit. 3/5, because of the glorious amount of Kuroko. And I've been wondering for a while now... Was Index I just as bad as Index II? If that's the case, why the hell did I like Index I? |
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EternalDreamer said: I don't know about that one but it looked to make Touma a epic hero! Which clearly is exaggerated as much as in Railgun with that graviton arc. Got to admit that the OST there was top notch! Also was the OST amazing when Misaka clone knocked on Touma's door till Touma meets Biribiri.Sooo when did Touma get super powers and lightning fast reflexes so he could jump trough a mess of falling debris, supporting his steps upwards, which defies the law of gravity altogether since they are, well falling^^ EternalDreamer said: I think it was already affected with Misaka's or Awaki's ability is the nullification went together with concrete block.And then easily with one hand, stop a massive piece of concrete, weighing at least several hundred kilos (low estimate) |
Yumekichi11Nov 20, 2010 3:34 AM
Awesome accelerator finally shows up and he is doing some kick-ass action(although i feel sorry for that girl, getting punch in the face and ended up like that)!!! |
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| Accelerator FTW even flying xD |
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| Loved the moment with touma fighting along side misaka. EPIC I wanna see more.!!!! |
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| I loved this episode. Everything I wanted and didn't get from Railgun I got from just 2 episodes of Index II. Wonderful, now Railgun season 1 is almost void to me. Totally loled at Accelerator giving Awaki a vector punch into a building in mid air, after shattering a great chunk of the road all the windows nearby. Freaking awesome dude. Touma got some cool points for running on falling rubble to save Lesboko, I mean Kuroko, who incidentally had some good parts herself this episode. Aww hell, Accelarator, the Misaka Network, Les-..Kuroko and Touma all had good parts. Sparky just shot a railgun, nothing new here. Also, I couldn't help but imagine the scene of Awaki shooting Kuroko as some sort of response to her VA talking over the characters lines in Ookami-san. It had "Shut up, I'm trying to listen to the characters! *shoots*" written all over it imo XD. |
KantarouNov 20, 2010 5:34 AM
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| I lack better terms, so: MFW!! But... how can Accelerator talk normal speed in slo-mo surroundings? xD They can't help it, I guess. Also I thought the smile at the end was really KH style 8) J.C. Staff, keep this up! |
| Jesus Christ, I'd forgotten how awesome that guy is. |
Arcangel92 said: hate to say it but touma still more badass than accel imo alexcampos said: Umm.....NO, you're either insane or not paying attention. Uhmm yes? you know this is my opinion right?... your taking this too seriously.. Touma > Accelerator, but not by much |
| Awesome episode. But poor girl she got punched in the face by Accelerator. |
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