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foxy12 said: Lol,I got it from Fansubs TV forums ..I hate it -.- people there are so harsh and Judgmental and I prefer animesuki and this forum ^ ^ And I thought people HERE can get crazy... o_O I can't believe a whole forum full of such rubbish and hatred that you copied here. Internet can be a scary place, where all those 14 years old late puberty psychos go on a rampage about an anime plot. XD foxy12 said: .Both girls were in Terrible conditions especially the last episodes and Sekai's fake Pregnancy proves it .Some might say she's pregnant other's might disagree .But the last episode showed us that Sekai lied a bout her pregnancy . we can read this the other way a round ,Katanoha was the one who lied because she was in her own world -.- While I like that you at least TRY to understand why Sekai would feign a pregnancy instead of calling her an evil bitch I still think she really WAS pregnant! I pointed it out several times already, but I guess in all those posts it was lost... Sekai was only pregnant for a short time, meaning the baby, or better the embryo was only some millemeters small! If you don't know metric systems, that is less than half an inch! Kotonoha wouldn't have been able to find an embryo in that sea of blood she created. Hell, I doubt she even precisely knows where the uterus lies and just sliced up the whole stomach... So there is no "proof" in Kotonohas bloody stomach exploring that makes Sekai a liar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo#The_human_embryo A pretty obvious hint to Sekai being pregnant is that the anime is close to the game. And in the game there is an ending in which Sekai is pregnant and kills Makoto! The only difference is that in the game she does it after several months so her belly is already rather big and she is as pregnant as you can be. So if they took the pregnancy thing from the game, why would they make it a fake in the anime? |
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canis said: And I thought people HERE can get crazy... o_O I can't believe a whole forum full of such rubbish and hatred that you copied here. Internet can be a scary place, where all those 14 years old late puberty psychos go on a rampage about an anime plot. XD A gree ,it sucks that Sekai get so much hate .Some say she's worst than Mokoto ,other's say Mokoto shouid've lived with Katanoha and left sekai by herself .. canis said: While I like that you at least TRY to understand why Sekai would feign a pregnancy instead of calling her an evil bitch I still think she really WAS pregnant! I pointed it out several times already, but I guess in all those posts it was lost... Sekai was only pregnant for a short time, meaning the baby, or better the embryo was only some millemeters small! If you don't know metric systems, that is less than half an inch! Kotonoha wouldn't have been able to find an embryo in that sea of blood she created. Hell, I doubt she even precisely knows where the uterus lies and just sliced up the whole stomach... So there is no "proof" in Kotonohas bloody stomach exploring that makes Sekai a liar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embryo#The_human_embryo A pretty obvious hint to Sekai being pregnant is that the anime is close to the game. And in the game there is an ending in which Sekai is pregnant and kills Makoto! The only difference is that in the game she does it after several months so her belly is already rather big and she is as pregnant as you can be. So if they took the pregnancy thing from the game, why would they make it a fake in the anime? I actually thought a bout the possibility that Sekai was indeed pregnant and of cource Katanoha wouidn't have noticed with her psychotic behavior .. But I also think that this info (pregnant or not pregnant )was intentionally left ambiguous for the fans to decide .Her pregnancy was placed symbolicly in the anime but I have no idea why they didn't just give the specifics .. Thanks for the info a bout the embryo ^ ^ As for the game ,I haven't played it so I'm not so sure but I a gree with you on sekai's being pregnant at that time .. What do you think made people say she was lying ? |
foxy12 said: I actually thought a bout the possibility that Sekai was indeed pregnant and of cource Katanoha wouidn't have noticed with her psychotic behavior .. It's not just because Kotonoha is a psycho at that point, I think no normal person would have been able to find an embryo that way. Look how it bleeds when you just cut your finger and than imagine how much blood there is when you slice a stomach open with all the organs and all. It would be hard finding anything in there... foxy12 said: But I also think that this info (pregnant or not pregnant )was intentionally left ambiguous for the fans to decide . I think I can agree to that. Since I take the game into account I'm thinking she was pregnant but I see that without the game it really cannot be said if she is pregnant or not just from the anime. We have signs that Sekai rubs her stomach even when she is alone, which would indicate a pregnancy or at least Sekai believing her own lie in case she wasn't pregnant. On the other hand there is one little moment that also gave me doubt: When Sekai and Kotonoha are on the rooftop Kotonoha claims Sekai isn't pregnant and Sekai answers she IS pregnant. But when Kotonoha says "Then you could have easily proved it at the hospital" Sekai flinches. Of course it is understandable that Sekai didn't want to the hospital of Kotonohas relative, but her flinching could also be read as a proof that Sekai doesn't want to go to ANY hospital to be examined. So my view is, Sekai was pregnant, but the anime makers purposely put little seeds of doubt into the last scenes to leave the choice up the the viewer. They did that pretty successfully cause now Sekai-fans can go on a rampage that Kotonoha killed an unborn baby and Kotonoha-fans can go on a rampage about Sekai being a lying bitch... XD foxy12 said: What do you think made people say she was lying ? Sadly, I think many people missed biology class and backup their idea that Sekai wasn't pregnant with nothing more but Kotonohas comment about "There is no one inside." >_> Just how she is saying "no one " as if she expects a miniature human to crawl out shows how naive she (and the fans who believe her) is. On that other hand, what can you expect of a girl who used to be too "innocent" to hold hands or kiss her boyfriend? What does a girl like that know about sex and pregnancy? |
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canis said: It's not just because Kotonoha is a psycho at that point, I think no normal person would have been able to find an embryo that way. Look how it bleeds when you just cut your finger and than imagine how much blood there is when you slice a stomach open with all the organs and all. It would be hard finding anything in there..... I agree,there's no anyway anyone wouid've noticed with that blood bath Katanoha created but still it's impossible to find the embryo anyway even if Katanoha didn't slice up her stomach ..right ? Seriously katanoha is worst than the Higurashi girls and Keade from Shuffle O.O canis said: I think I can agree to that. Since I take the game into account I'm thinking she was pregnant but I see that without the game it really cannot be said if she is pregnant or not just from the anime. We have signs that Sekai rubs her stomach even when she is alone, which would indicate a pregnancy or at least Sekai believing her own lie in case she wasn't pregnant. On the other hand there is one little moment that also gave me doubt: When Sekai and Kotonoha are on the rooftop Kotonoha claims Sekai isn't pregnant and Sekai answers she IS pregnant. But when Kotonoha says "Then you could have easily proved it at the hospital" Sekai flinches. Of course it is understandable that Sekai didn't want to the hospital of Kotonohas relative, but her flinching could also be read as a proof that Sekai doesn't want to go to ANY hospital to be examined. So my view is, Sekai was pregnant, but the anime makers purposely put little seeds of doubt into the last scenes to leave the choice up the the viewer. They did that pretty successfully cause now Sekai-fans can go on a rampage that Kotonoha killed an unborn baby and Kotonoha-fans can go on a rampage about Sekai being a lying bitch... XD ..... True , I agree with you but if Sekai was made pregnant in the game ,then maybe she really is pregnant after all but I agree the writers wanted to create a rampage.. 1-why did Sekai refuse to see a doctor ? 2-How long has she being pregnant before getting killed by Katanoha ?both in the game and the anime ? canis said: Sadly, I think many people missed biology class and backup their idea that Sekai wasn't pregnant with nothing more but Kotonohas comment about "There is no one inside." >_> Just how she is saying "no one " as if she expects a miniature human to crawl out shows how naive she (and the fans who believe her) is. On that other hand, what can you expect of a girl who used to be too "innocent" to hold hands or kiss her boyfriend? What does a girl like that know about sex and pregnancy? Agree ,Many people got that Idea because of katanoha's comment but still how couid anyone believe a psycho person .Just because Katanoha said it ,doesn't mean that it's the truth ...your right a bout that .. It's strange that people accuse Sekai of being a lier .. And yes Katanoha was so shy and almost didn't allow any physical contact's but I understand this as the girl was abused a lot in the past because of her over-size breast .. But Man did she change through out the whole show ..loll |
| Wow, I never thought it would end like this. :') I know Makoto was being a jerk but killing him is a bit too much if you ask me. |
| What the .... - that's the only thing i could say after that episode. The end is completly insane, as the characters of this anime :) But i have to admit i liked that wicked ending. For most of the series i was thinking about Makoto that he's just an idiot. I know, guys are easy to manipulate. ;) But the fact that he slept with almost every girl is just sick. But to be honest that's why i love Slice of life genre, it's just showing all the "sweetness" of life, don't you think? More anime like this please! @EDIT: Just founded this picture: (sorry for such big example) :) |
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| I don't need many words to describe this ending and also this anime. It's totally the biggest shit i've ever seen.No need to say more. |
| Makoto your too late to say about your selfishness What a sad ending But it was a happy ending for us *What a creepy ending* |
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| My opinion about School Days. Don't get mad at me if you don't agree with my opinion. I know some will agree with me some won't but I thought that ending was horrible. Why can't it just be like other Harem animes and let Makoto marry one girl and the others will be okay with it and maybe the other girls will still be able to do it with Makoto with the wife not minding. Oh and why do people hate Makoto so much? I know he was stupid and cheated behind his girlfriend with every other girl he met at his school, but he's a 16 year old guy who just wanted to get laid a lot because it felt good. Maybe if Kotonoha was a little more open and they could experiment more maybe Makoto wouldn't have to cheat on her. Makoto was probably just tired of waiting for Kotonoha, that he wanted to go to the next level. But because he waited too long Sekai started giving advice about sex to Makoto, he's 16, practicing sex? Who would give that deal up? Makoto didn't want to get Sekai pregnant he was just too caught up in the hype of having sex he was careless. (I'm not indicating if she was pregnant or not.) Most of you probably hate Makoto for a few reasons: You hate people who cheat on their girlfriends/boyfriends This has happened to you before. Was Sekai pregnant? Some say she was, Some say she wasn't. There are many clues which indicate that Sekai was and wasn't. I wish they wouldn't put those in so the answer would be clear. Example: 1. Sekai started to throw up. Was she pregnant? OR she just cried so much that she threw up. (I have seen that happen before.) 2. She clutches her womb time to time saying "the baby is Makoto's" to herself. (this also just may be a sign of insanity) 3. Maybe she was just being a bit insane and maybe jumping to conclusions that she was pregnant. Did she take a test? Did she go to a doctor? 4. Maybe she intentionally said that she was pregnant with Makoto's baby out loud so that everybody would back off and to stop doing Makoto of fear of getting themselves pregnant. (This is probably the best clue yet that indicates Sekai wasn't actually pregnant.)(I felt sorry for Makoto at this time because his reputation PLUMMETED! the girls who used to have s3x with him stopped doing it especially the brown haired girl with the ponytail and the blondish two tailed one.) Whatever the case I wish they would have said if she was pregnant or not. The whole Kotonoha walking around talking to herself just scared me, and when she met up with Makoto I felt relieved that she wouldn't go completely insane. It makes me wonder "What would have happened if Makoto didn't appear at the Christmas Tree where Kotonoha was sitting." I think Sekai went way overboard for killing Makoto just because he missed to eat dinner with her just to save her love rival. I know it meant a lot to her but.. wow.. She could have just forgiven him, she probably thought that Makoto and Kotonoha were doing it behind her back and she just couldn't take it anymore. The rooftop seen was just crazy, When I heard Kotonoha's comment that there was no one inside her I just laughed and said "Of course not you idiot! You thought a full grown baby would just crawl out of there?" besides even if Sekai was pregnant it would have been too bloody to even notice the egg. Anyway, if only Sekai didn't introduce the two together maybe it would have been fine but that was a stupid attempt just to get closer with Makoto. But at the end of this I can only say that neither of the characters are to blame. The only things to blame are: Makoto's horniness, Sekai's stupid brain which made up such an idiot plan, and Kotonoha's Shy personality. I think Makoto really still loved Kotonoha deep down inside him even when he was f-ing Sekai. Maybe he liked Sekai a bit but he just needed her for the pleasure. Now for "You know what Really Grinds my Gear's?" with DarK_BalteR You know what really grinds my gear's? Worthless, not-needed support characters who get laid with one of the Main Characters. It just boils my blood when they Take the girl's virginity before the Main Lead does. You know what else that really grinds my gear's? The Main Lead not having a sexual relationship with the One of the Main Girl's. The guy get's to do every supporting character except the Main one. What's up with that? "Back to you Tom" (If you didn't understand what that segment was about, go watch Family Guy) Oh I forgot to mention it. Nice Boat!! Don't boo me just because I have an Opinion. Sorry If my Facts are wrong. I just finished watching the series like 2 weeks ago so I kinda forgot most of it. |
DarK_BalteRJul 12, 2009 2:43 AM
DarK_BalteR said: My opinion about School Days. Don't get mad at me if you don't agree with my opinion. I don't get mad, but I like to discuss this topic ENDLESSLY, so I hope you don't mind that I want to comment on a few things. DarK_BalteR said: Most of you probably hate Makoto for a few reasons: You hate people who cheat on their girlfriends/boyfriends This has happened to you before. I agree, I also assumed that a few posts ago, that many people are so defensive about Kotonohas and Makotos relationship, because they made bad experiences by being cheated on. DarK_BalteR said: I think Sekai went way overboard for killing Makoto just because he missed to eat dinner with her just to save her love rival. I know it meant a lot to her but.. wow.. Total disagreement here! Sekai didn't kill Makoto just "because he missed dinner with her". O_O Sekai thought she and Makoto were a couple (and it's not that crazy to think that, since Makoto had broken up with Kotonoha at that point AND danced that folk dance with Sekai, which he KNEW symbolized a romantic relationship!) and he yelled at her saying "Why did you get pregnant?! And stop playing my girlfriend!" In one phonecall he literally broke up with her (by denying they were a couple to begin with) and made clear that he won't take ANY responsibility for the baby (by blaming Sekai for getting pregnant... AFTER shooting his sperm into her!! >_>). DarK_BalteR said: She could have just forgiven him, she probably thought that Makoto and Kotonoha were doing it behind her back and she just couldn't take it anymore. She didn't just think that, they were about to do it. o_O Remember how she catched them right after the missed dinner and Makoto and Kotonoha do this biga$$ tongue kiss in front of Sekai? DarK_BalteR said: The rooftop seen was just crazy, When I heard Kotonoha's comment that there was no one inside her I just laughed and said "Of course not you idiot! You thought a full grown baby would just crawl out of there?" besides even if Sekai was pregnant it would have been too bloody to even notice the egg. Total agreement here. Other reasonable people and I are preaching this throughout this whole topic, but no one reads old posts and Kotonoha fanatics might just be too immune to reason to get that point, they still think cutting open a woman is the best way to find out if she is pregnant or not... A funny side note: I recently found out that Makoto's name is written with the Kanji 誠 which means sincerity, honesty, truth and such... Him bearing such a name... it's just too ironic! XD |
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| I may be a newbie on this site and nobody may care what my opinion is but just for the sake of the truth and interest I want get a point across... Well instead of stating what opinions we don't have in common...a quick hit list would be that: 1) At one point during this anime a huge climactic event was going to happen. 2) We all agree that somebody has to be at fault if not allot but a little. 3) You think there was something simply...well.. not all there? Now everyone is entitled to their own opinion thats why we live in ameri...well...I Live in America...thats why we have these blogs without much restrictions on the internet. {I SECRETLY WIPE THE SWEAT FROM MY FOREHEAD} First of I Like to thank the creators for stained...{OMG LOSE THE DIRTY MIND I MEANT VOMIT...STOP THINKING LIKE MAKOTO}... keyboard i have from that epic ending. ((I don't like such a tense atmosphere so i will crack a joke to lighten the mood every now and then)). While we may not be satisfied with each others opinions, simply sharing our thoughts on this blog makes the anime a powerful cultural impact. People all over the world watched this anime, some because they liked it, some to just see how it would end, and I am making an other option for those who want to contradict my statement---( insert reason...HERE---> ______________________ ) I tried to leave plenty of room...please hesitate to complain...seriously...hesitate. O.K., Enough of the weird-spur-of-the-moment-cliche'-jokes...this is school days were talking about... 0__0 While this was actually airing i was completely unaware that this anime existed so i took in all of this in on one day. I skipped sleeping so i could watch the next episode-- it wouldn't have mattered after the ending i saw... E.I. The extra cuting and slicing sounds made in the uncut version might have made Mr. Stephen King lose his lunch for the next 3 days. But this series started off with your typical harem... guy likes girl, another girl likes guy and so on. So it caught my eye Because of the ecchi comedy...NO IM NOT A PERVERT...but I'm sure that unless you played the game you were pretty shook-up if your human. Nothing really could have prepared us for the shocker... or if your one of the thousands who say they Knew it all along--"Yippee ki yay, motherf>cker"...go write this sh?t as a career... no offense. But really the producers and story writers brought us the dark side of the moon= the 4th thing we agree about. Yeah, i just got to tip my hat for the thinking outside of the box and throwing sad, depressing, and somewhat psychotic right in your face taking your head of...no pun intended. Now about who's fault it was... (this is what people who hate sekai think ) Sekai is a classic Female Stalker, female stalkers want to establish an intimate, loving relationship with the person they pursue > > > > > > Sekai intentionally stalked Makato from the beginning, > > > > > 1. She took photos and gathered data on Makato before they even meet. > > > 2. She used her best friend and Kotonoha to wedge herself into Makato’s life. > > > 3. She begins to lie to Makato to gain his trust. > > > 4. She intentionally took his first kiss, day one after introducing him to Kotonoha. > > > 5. She intentionally began gathering information on Makato’s feelings towards Kotonoha to sabotage the relationship by pretending to be a matchmaker. > > > 6. She intentionally lured Makato into ‘practicing sex’ on the roof. Again, this is not normal behavior by a long shot! > > > 7. She intentionally spread rumors about Makato and herself being a true couple to her friends. > > > 8. She went to school and yelled in class ‘I’m pregnant’; this type of emotional control is a typical feature among stalkers. This also served to kill Makato’s reputation (which he deserved) and secure Sekai’s position in Makato’s life. Whether she is pregnant or not really is not an issue. > > > 9. She intentionally breaks into Makato’s house to prepare him dinner; again, this is not normal behavior, when Makato rebuffs her she begins to snap. > > > 10. She follows Makato back to his home to confront Kotonoha, really the only women she appears to be afraid of that will take Makato’s heart. Again, this stalker behavior is not normal or justified. > > > 11. She intentionally reminds herself that Makato’s will always be with her (his child) and stabs Makato multiple times with absolutely no remorse. > > > 12. Instead of turning herself in, she calmly returns to a bedroom and waits. This type of denial is common among nut cases like her. > > > 13. The fact that Sekai brings the bloody knife to the roof almost proves that she was always aware of her actions. She hardly even sheds a tear for the man she claims to love. Shock aside, how cold does your heart have to be to take your exlovers death in stride like that? Sekai wasn’t some helpless girl who followed her heart, she had a serious mental illness, a stalker with multiple personalities. However, this is part of a greater illness in society where we hold separate and unequal values for men and women Do you agree with what they are saying ?I think it's a bit too harsh .. It's not just "harsh" it's pretty warped to put it THAT way. o_O 1. she did that for Setsuna, but while gathering infos for her friend she also started to like Makoto and since Setsuna lied by saying she isn't in love with Makoto, Sekai also can't be blamed for stealing Makoto from Setsuna 3. When does she lie? She doesn't tell him that she loves him, but that is not lying but hiding parts of the truth... 4. seemed pretty spontaneous to me, hardly planned 6. yeah sex practise is weird, but people tend to forget: Makoto COULD have refused! 7. she never said that (at least not until Makoto already left Kotonoha for her!), Setsuna and the others jumped into that conclusion themselves 8. so stalkers shout "I'm pregnant"? have to ask my friend who studied psychology to back that funny claim up... >_> 9. I doubt she "broke" into the house... either she had a key or Makoto always leaves his door unlocked o.O (ironically to that claim: in the game it is Kotonoha who later breaks into Makotos appartement on a DAILY BASIS and secretly watches him and Sekai having sex while smelling on his used underwear... XD) 10. should she have send a letter by pigeon to resolve that issue? What's wrong about going to his appartement to talk to those two? 11. no remorse? She cried and stuff... Again (cause I assume Kotonoha fans wrote that) Kotonoha is the one who shows no (appropriate) emotion to the situation by cutting off Makotos head... 12. Even murderers who DO turn themselves in usually take some hours or days to do so. It's the most normal thing to first return home and think about what you have done. Sekai was killed by Kotonoha before there was really a chance for her to start thinking about what to do next (like turning herself in). I also don't know why "denial" is brought up cause to me there is no sign of her denying anything. 13. She brought the knife because she didn't decide yet if she tries to hide the weapon or turns herself in, so it's safest for now to carry it with you, right? Also she was still in shock and since the mail came from Makotos cell phone she maybe had the scary vision of a zombie Makoto waiting for her, who would go there unarmed? The serious mental illness is easily found in Kotonoha, not in Sekai. Having your own opinion is all nice and fine, but the person who wrote this seems pretty nuts to me. Besides, laymen shouldn't talk big about mental diseases. Most people know a damn about real symptoms and spread those half-wisdom to sound important. Did you get that from some "Hail to Kotonohas innocence" forum or something? XD Canis ,I ttly a gree with everything you said a bout Sekai ^ ^.Sekai was just a girl who gave in to her inner emotions and I pity her the most out of all the girls .She was the real victim here (more than katanoha ). Lol,I got it from Fansubs TV forums ..I hate it -.- people there are so harsh and Judgmental and I prefer animesuki and this forum ^ ^ As for the mental illness,I have to agree to diagree here Canis .Both girls were in Terrible conditions especially the last episodes and Sekai's fake Pregnancy proves it .Some might say she's pregnant other's might disagree .But the last episode showed us that Sekai lied a bout her pregnancy . we can read this the other way a round ,Katanoha was the one who lied because she was in her own world -.- As for me ,I still believe that Sekai forced her mind to make herself believe that she was pregnant.She really believed that she was pregnant with his child (I mean why wouid she go get Nutrition's for Baby if it was not there and rubbing her Stomach saying 'it's mokoto's baby a lone in her room )so my guess is that due to extreme depression because of that shocking truth a bout Mokoto cheating on her and not noticing her period gave her the hints the she might be pregnant with his child which caused her to throw up and such ,It happens that girls don't get thier period's in time due to depression (change in mood ).. And that's why I believe that Sekai wasn't mentally stable at that time although less than Katanoha .Sekai acting all emo and depressed was a prove that her condition was not so well .. I'm not saying that Sekai is nuts (a crazy person wouidn't have felt guilt like you said)but she was in a terrible condition which caused her to fantasize a lot .Her guilt caused her to fall into deep depression and despair (like Mitsuki from KGNE).. As for the kiss on ep 1 -she did it to relieve herself and it was spontaneous and passionate like you said even though it was forcefull . Mokoto couid have said No to sekai ,he couid have turned her down ,he couid have broken up with Katanoha if he liked Sekai .He couid have Controled his lust .Yes ,Sekai's action's were wrong but the one thing that separates here from Mokoto is that she was MADLY IN LOVE ,Mokoto on the other hand was not in love with anyone..maybe a small crush on katanoha (he never knew what love is till katsure opened his eyes )he was not in love with Sekai at all .He thought he was in love with Sekai cuz she gave him what he wanted (Unconditional sex)... Even though I pity him to a certain degree and I know that he was a victim of lust (let's not blame him for everything )The girls were at great fault too for throwing themselves at him .At the sametime I'm terribly disgusted with him too because he was not there for Sekai when she needed him the most (weather she was lying a bout the baby or not )he shouid've being there for her and not shift back to his original girlfriend after taking all of sekai's virginity and demoralizing her .It's not fair for Sekai even if he felt guilt for leaving Katanoha .. And that's why I believe that Sekia's love was unrequited.He never loved Sekai that way ...NOW STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!RIGHT THERE IS JUST THE ONE THING I DON'T AGREE ON!!! ALL THAT ABOVE CAME FROM Foxy12 I don't want to type when someone see's the same gaps that i do. THANK U Foxy12 you saved me a lot of typing. Now the hole that i think is covered up by the fact that makoto didn't love sekeai is really right next to the REAL hole that is being covered by everything makoto did to sekai and behind her back and being taking advantage of. OK THAT WAS A LITLLE CONFUSING BUT RE READ IT AND IT MAKES SENSE. Foxy12 and Canis i have the upmost amount respect for you guys when it comes to this topic because... YOU SEE WHATS IN THE TUNNEL YOUR PASSING THROUGH (episodes 1-10) NOT JUST WHATS AT THE END (episodes 11&12). But heres where i think that you guys as well as other people hit a pedestrian walking to prove the innocence of himself...makoto...and the reason you couldn't see this pedestrian is because YOUR WINDSHIELD WAS FOGGED UP BY THE DISBELIEF THAT MAKOTO ACTUALLY CARED AT SOME POINTS IN HIS EVENTUALLY F-ed up LIFE! I'm gunna give you a sample: My Names makoto i like this chick who rides the train with me at the same time im completly oblivios to the fact that the person who is trying to help me score a date with the one i like is actaully in love with me but sacrificing for my happyness. i dont figure this out till she kisses me on the lips at the subway. i cant go to second base with the chick i like so ill ask my luve struck neighbor to help me with this situation. she gives me lessons and i like were this is going but at the same time i realize the fact that what i am doing is wrong to the one currently going out with me but the one i love is the one who loved me in the first place...PAUSE... NOW YOUR THINK JUST UNCONDITIONAL SEX IT REALLY WASN'T WHAT YOU THINK AS REAL LOVE JUST SEX..at that point i agree with you but this isnt were the love truly shows its colors...time flys by and i still cant figure out a way to break it off with the subway chick luckily i have a girl who liked me since i saved here from the wrath of bullies who---bad move---blocks here from calling me and that only stirs trouble up some more.ohh great a festival is just around the corner during the day i think ill be forced to slepp with a chick ive known since middle school..all while avoiding the subway chick and feeling up on my professed loved won...PAUSE...REWIND...NOW YOUR THINKING USUALL DICK MAKOTO BUT HERES WERE YOU SMASH INTO HIM WHEN HE IS WALKING TWORDS THE NO EXISTANT FALSE HOPE YOU GAVE HIM....and yes my metaphors are magical....Makoto never really wanted to have sex with otome??spl?? she forced herself onto him making it hard to not give in to desire THAT PROVES HE HAS A HEART THAT FEELS GUILT..next he dances with his "new girlfriend"...SIGN OF LOVE AS NOTHING ELSE IS ON HIS MIND AND THE LOOK OVER HIS SHOULDER DOESNT COUNT...all while the chick frome the subway gets used...the next couple days are filled with misunderstandings...the girl i have been sleeping with tells everyone and me that she's preagnant...SH**T...but since i like her its ok at least i think...but im a little distraught so i run away frome my fellings by sleeping with every chick possible...YES BAD UNCARING IDEA..and when i finally relise were i belong is with sekai i bump into none other than the subway chick..( and by the way she must smell like A$$ she BEEN SITTING THERE FOR LIKE 97-DAYS!!!) In the end after seeing the mess i created by being unfathful i despretly try to revive the heartbroken soul while at same time i unbeknowestly crush the hopes of an unstable pregnant teen girl who saught to spend the rest of her life with the one she loved but do to an unfortunate path i chose to go home that night the mental states of the two girls flip...and you know the rest...text message=death! Foxy12------>>> As for Katanoha- I pity her a lot too .She's had it bad in every way and I find her to be a sweet/kind person over all .Her obessive love for Mokoto bother's some people but I found it to be tragic if you ask me (she was Unconsciously in love with Mokoto )she apparently fell in love with the shy mokoto we saw in ep 1 .. While I think that both girls sufferd so much,I have to say that Sekai suffered way more than Katanoha because she was the one showing all the emotions like you said and Katanoha was unconscious to the truth the whole time .Katanoha's suffering was because of the people abusive treatment's for her .Sekai's suffered from unrequited love ,guilt and and relationship's... i also sort of agree but i think that nobody was thinking str8t and that the final gasp of breath that makoto breathed was the breath he was no longer troubled by any thing and all problems and troubles caused by him would be erased. AND THERE WAS A BABEY YOU CANT JUST MISS YOUR PERIOD FOR 8WEEKS PAST THE USUALL DATE... OHH AND YES I VOMIT FOR NOTHING..OHH STOMACH CUT= WTF WERE U GUNNA SEE ANYWAY ITS NOT EVEN 8 WEEKS OLD!!?? WEll its time to close i hoped you see my viewpionts and the views of others but in the end its your decision... P.S. if anyone else would like to say the last episode made them wanna go tell the screwed up story to the next thing with a beating heart...like icouldn't get it off my chest. Sincerly, MelonLord1 |
| Your post is hardly understandable(cause of the rough english), but somehow I managed it. I still somewhat doubt that Makoto ever loved Sekai(or anyone except his johny). He certainly felt himself more comfortable with her and they had better chemistry, but that's all that sure. If we can piick a real romantic moment from him it's when he desperately tried to visit her after the pool. Ajbout Sekai being crazy: she was almost totally sane at the time. It's not a requiment being insane to kill someone. She was temporaly in an unstable mental state, but she deffinietly wasn't insane. She wanted revenge and she planned the thing out. Compared to Kotonoha's behaviour she deffinetly was sane she just accumlated much stress and sadness and it's exploded. Her obession with the baby surely not unusual, especially if she was romantically abessed with it's father. Not to mention the fact the words of an insane person is far from credible(even if she had the means to indentify the pregnancy, but it wasn't the case) In the end I hated the two of the main characters(Makoto and Kotonoha) after the first watch because both choose to be ignorant and selfish to everything except the things next to their faces. They weren't dumb, weren't in a situation where they can't see it, weren't forced to choose that way. |
willyverebJul 12, 2009 3:12 PM
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| Well, I kinda understand Makoto, he gets the girl that he wants so hard with a little help from a good friend.. But then the same friend that helped him kisses him, and gives him training and stuff. I would be confused too. But I still don't know what to think about te pregnancy tho.. |
| Well the thing that troubled me the most about him were not his actions but his attitude towards them. He thought it's perfectly fine if he's constatly cheating his g(not to mention he didn't thought about breaking up with her)f. No sense of guilt or responsiblity. |
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| Yeah, that's true too. I would hate myself if I took actions like him. :') I understand the confusing with Sekai and Kotonaha, but his actions with the other girls were a bit too much. |
| Idont think makoto thought it was neccisarily fine but i think haveing sex...for him... was getting away from the world... the same world that sekia first showed him--out of love... im not a sekia hater--- also that was a catylist or a scapegoat for his already growing problem. listening to everyone, MelonLord1 |
| First off, this is just my opinion and I probably won't be checking this topic again. I think anyone who sympathizes with Makoto really needs to stop cheating on other people or rethink what suitable behavior is. I can understand sympathizing with anyone else, but he was just pure scum. The reasoning people have of him just being an adolescent male is silly. Sure sleeping around would've been plausible, but starting relationships just to sleep with them was bad. Even he had some knowledge of what he was doing wasn't right (in the early stages), yet he kept it up. I think Kotonoha was the person least at fault (she just got unlucky with some sleaze having his eye on her), although she should've given up once she started realizing he'd lost interest. She became too desperate and became insane part way through. Sekai definitely shouldn't have done half the stuff she did, but hey, she loved him (probably). She seemed sane enough throughout the whole show, and looks like she just lost it while/shortly before killing him, even though she did decide to do it. With the pregnancy thing, I think she was pregnant. Kotonoha wouldn't have been able to see a thing at such early stages of a pregnancy. Also I know it's possible Sekai was imagining the pregnancy. I sympathized with the Kotonoha in the early stages of the relationship. But once she started becoming insane I kinda stopped feeling sorry for her. Sekai I felt sorry for just because she fell in love with such a horrible guy. I did quite like the ending. It was nice to see some of the characters (especially Makoto) get slaughtered. |
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| It would have been so much better if somehow all the side-characters die too |
| yeah!! just kill everyone lol!!! |
| But... Setsuna... Gah. |
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Haylias said: But... Setsuna... Gah. im glad setsuna got away from that madness :/ and i think its a shame sekai had to die :/ |
deviltrigger said: Haylias said: But... Setsuna... Gah. im glad setsuna got away from that madness :/ and i think its a shame sekai had to die :/ She was a Grade-A slut. |
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Haylias said: deviltrigger said: Haylias said: But... Setsuna... Gah. im glad setsuna got away from that madness :/ and i think its a shame sekai had to die :/ She was a Grade-A slut. mmmm dunno, love makes people do crazy things |
deviltrigger said: Haylias said: deviltrigger said: Haylias said: But... Setsuna... Gah. im glad setsuna got away from that madness :/ and i think its a shame sekai had to die :/ She was a Grade-A slut. mmmm dunno, love makes people do crazy things Oh hey, I am going to set you up with my friend! Okay, I am stealing him away now with little or no effort to hide it even though I know you are emotionally unstable! She had it coming. |
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Haylias said: deviltrigger said: Haylias said: deviltrigger said: Haylias said: But... Setsuna... Gah. im glad setsuna got away from that madness :/ and i think its a shame sekai had to die :/ She was a Grade-A slut. mmmm dunno, love makes people do crazy things Oh hey, I am going to set you up with my friend! Okay, I am stealing him away now with little or no effort to hide it even though I know you are emotionally unstable! She had it coming. very true |
| Amazing. What people tried to discuss in superlonga$$ posts for the last 20 pages is summed up in one liners and yet the same. XD |
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| No need to over complicate things, now is there? Also, as it was said I think in the movie Identity: "Bitches don't get a second chance" |
| What a great, mindshaking anime. I'm giving 10 of 10, although I quite doubt I want to watch it again. Sekai DEFINITELY didn't deserve death! She really loved Makoto, always regretted betraying Katsura, than later she thought Makoto had broken up with Katsura, so that she hadn't to feel guilty anymore, but Makoto is just such a bitch and betrayed her manytimes...HE betrayed Sekai with EVERYONE!!! WITHOUT really loving someone! While Sekai betrayed Katsura because she LOVED Makoto! She was just quite silly in controlling her emotions and act accordingly. Makoto really had deserved a much more painful and slow death...something like hostel 2-style ;-) About Katsura: Poor one. I really sympathysize characters like her, who go insane because of the fu***** society. I think those other girls did quite a part to get her to what she became. Although I dislike her for killing sekai, she just a poor victim. I would quite compare her to Lucy from Elfen Lied... Burn down all fu***** bullies!!!(or mobbers, how we call it, don't know if that word exists in real english to decribe people who have their fun bullying other people) Well, most probably I just wrote down what is said already, but I'm so moved by this anime, I just have the desire to discuss^^ BTW, the boat story is really some crazy thing... |
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| mrmuk, I like you. ^.^d |
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| all i have to say is- nice boat |
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| Holy fucking Christ. I knew Katsura would flip shit. In the end, someone was going to get stabbed. |
| so I was watching this anime thinking hey this is a prety normal anime. Itou Makoto is a bastard but still its a prety normal anime. but then I saw ep 12..... okey WHAT THE HECK DID I JUST WATCH!!? |
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| A romantic comedy turned into a heavy psichological anime with quite gruesome yandere action in the end.:) |
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| this psycho anime... I really surprised with the ending...-before read the manga- |
ElPaisa24 said: IZUMI64 said: this psycho anime... I really surprised with the ending...-before read the manga- hey thanks for that, I forgot about the manga, I'm going to read it.. |
| Actually every character is somehow different in it. And yes, it has a different ending. |
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| Eh? I didn't even know there was a manga. o_O |
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canis said: Eh? I didn't even know there was a manga. o_O then start to read it ---this--- |
IZUMI64 said: canis said: Eh? I didn't even know there was a manga. o_O then start to read it ---this--- Thank you! ^.^ |
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| Ok done reading the manga. Just in case anybody else wants to read it I write my opinion in spoiler tags... |
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| In case anyone wants them: Uncut Ending Screencaps - http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/3859618c4c320d0a12acb077a3cbe018/ Funny post I wrote way back in the day on my journal - SPOILERS - http://yanderekko.blogspot.com/2008/06/school-days-uncut-screencaps.html |
| Usotsuki. |
| Also, if you didn't know. Cross Days is out now. It's another game that takes place the same time as the original School Days, but with a different main character. He has a crush on Kotonoha from seeing her study in the library a lot and learns about her boyfriend Makoto. Another girl that likes him, lies to people and says she's also with Makoto to make Kotonoha jealous (not a wise move). There have been confirmed deaths. Here are some pictures from my blog if you want to see them: http://yanderekko.blogspot.com/2009/05/cross-days-school-days-images.html And! A GIF I made back in the day, feel free to use it.  |
| Usotsuki. |
| 9/10 enjoyed it in spite of the fact that I hated all of the characters. How strange. |
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| Hmm... Why is the blood black anyway?? arghh... I wanted a red blood so I can feel Makato being pawned! 8/10!! Haha at last they are alone, Makoto and Kotonoha... |
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| Well, and Sekai and Makoto in the afterlife then...:p The reason behind the black blood and the lessened gore was a certain event with similar happenings like in the anime's end just a week before the last episode aired(actually about at the time the last episode should be aired) That was partially behind the reason of the Nice Boat meme. |
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