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Oct 7, 2012 7:30 AM

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Linkark07 said:


So, Sasasegawa Sasami, what do you think of the new seiyuu?


I still prefer Tomoe's Sasami. What I only complain about the new voiced Sasami is that her pitch is kinda lower than Tomoe's which is somewhat unfitting. Well, maybe it's unfitting for an oujou-sama type but there's still her tsundere type when or if they're going to include her story arc in the series.


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It's Key adaptation, so we all have to be patient cause they always start with generic things and wait for the last minute to pull some tear-jerking moments out of nowhere, with the plot has been built on and deepen the char's relationships.

But the first episode was not like what I expected. It's not wrong when you watched Clannad before and expect something amazing in here.

Anyway, see the elbow (I took it from another ani discussion website)


I watched this episode twice today, and every time I watched, I couldn't get rid of the chill feelings which the visuals gave me ... Hope J.C will do sth about it in BD versions ...
Oct 7, 2012 7:34 AM

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Still need to get accustomed to the new Sasami.
Oct 7, 2012 7:36 AM

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Funny start, just as expected. Loved Horie Yui as Riki.
Oct 7, 2012 7:39 AM
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A lot funnier than I expected... hmmm, this might be good.
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain"
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Oct 7, 2012 7:43 AM

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Takana_no_Hana said:

But the first episode was not like what I expected. It's not wrong when you watched Clannad before and expect something amazing in here.


Well, I'm also not really expecting something amazing when I first played the LB VN.


Takana_no_Hana said:

I watched this episode twice today, and every time I watched, I couldn't get rid of the chill feelings which the visuals gave me ... Hope J.C will do sth about it in BD versions ...


It's JC Staff after all. I'm not really expecting anything about them except on how they will adapt the VN especially the story arcs.


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I just watched and loved it,it'll probably be an awesome series.
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Oct 7, 2012 7:49 AM

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the 1st episode was great. :D it was funny and i really enjoyed watching it. cant wait for the next episode! ^^
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Funny episode..... And good animation quality..... Will continue to watch....

3/5
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Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Kayro said:
Seriously not going to read through 16 pages of butt hurt fans, but I did like this first episode.

I agree with this.
I can already guess what most of the complaints are too.

Btw, who are the honorable people that are defending this anime in these forums?


Hi. Key fag fan right here<3 + LB VN Fan. Also loling at people to expecting amazing things to happen from the first episode.

Yo Tyrel. I hope you defend Little Busters better you do with SAO. lol
weiqifan said:
>.> what attracted you guys who enjoyed this? what appealed?

I'm just being curious.

I didn't play the visual novel so I'll just give you my reason.
Basic mathematics.

I add all the scores of Keys works that I watched (The main series' , not movies and side stories), and then divide that by the total amount of series'.

10+10+10+8+8 ÷ 5 = 9.2

Statistically, I'll end up giving this a 9.
Oct 7, 2012 8:18 AM

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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Kayro said:
Seriously not going to read through 16 pages of butt hurt fans, but I did like this first episode.

I agree with this.
I can already guess what most of the complaints are too.

Btw, who are the honorable people that are defending this anime in these forums?


Hi. Key fag fan right here<3 + LB VN Fan. Also loling at people to expecting amazing things to happen from the first episode.

Yo Tyrel. I hope you defend Little Busters better you do with SAO. lol
weiqifan said:
>.> what attracted you guys who enjoyed this? what appealed?

I'm just being curious.

I didn't play the visual novel so I'll just give you my reason.
Basic mathematics.

I add all the scores of Keys works that I watched (The main series' , not movies and side stories), and then divide that by the total amount of series'.

10+10+10+8+8 ÷ 5 = 9.2

Statistically, I'll end up giving this a 9.


Can't really defend either, as I would need to grab proof right out of the source from Little Busters if they lack explanations and shit. I'ma be fanboying Little Busters! hard though just cause its from Key. I give up defending most of SAO as it's just going down the drain, only few parts you can actually defend and even then you need the LN ;D.
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BuliTM said:
I was interested in characters from Clannad from the beginning. It actually felt like high school with bunch of fun teenagers (except from occasional exaggerated physical comedy). Little Busters felt like a random compilation of slapstick comedy that was supposed to double for character representation.

Beginnings are of no meaning in my opinion. I didn't start to love all of my favourite characters from anime, manga and games since the very first episode, chapter or day in VN. It takes time, it always takes, it's unavoidable. Par exemple, Roy Mustang needed 20 chapters to get to me. I'd started to be a fan of Gintoki after Yoshiwara arc (~140 episode), I became addicted to Nnoitra after he released, I started to love C.C. around the 10th episode. The same goes for the stories.

Some of the people are just prejudiced and refuse to give credit to a new anime which have just started. Because they didn't like previous Key works, because the characters aren't appealing, because they didn't like some of the gags or for whatever other reason. But this episode was just an introduction. Paraphrasing Hollow Ichigo, you can't become a fan of a character knowing only his/her name. You have to take your time and gave a chance. You cannot see through a book after finishing the first chapter.
I just rememebered how stories written by Agatha Christie look like. They can be convoluted for most of time but when you finish reading you can't help but love it.
Though I don't see anything wrong with our five Little Busters in the first episode. They are supposed to be creative and cheerful, despite being just some students.

While it's true that there had been some hype before the show got aired, it couldn't be helped. We, fans of the game, are excited that our LB! got an anime and enjoy it more. Just like every fan of a certain manga, Code;Breaker par exemple, is happy about the adaptation too. But we and they didn't become fans after the first day of gathering members for baseball team.

Linkark07 said:
So, Sasasegawa Sasami, what do you think of the new seiyuu?
I loved her characteristic voice from the game and can't just jump into the new. But probably after a few episodes I'll get accustomed and give Sora more credit. She wasn't chosen for Sasami's voice for nothing.
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My favorite new series of the season. Definitely looking forward to it.
Oct 7, 2012 8:26 AM

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Was a little...Boring
Oct 7, 2012 8:28 AM

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Don't be so hard on 'em. This was clearly a good first episode with funny moments. Waiting for more.
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Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Kayro said:
Seriously not going to read through 16 pages of butt hurt fans, but I did like this first episode.

I agree with this.
I can already guess what most of the complaints are too.

Btw, who are the honorable people that are defending this anime in these forums?


Hi. Key fag fan right here<3 + LB VN Fan. Also loling at people to expecting amazing things to happen from the first episode.

Yo Tyrel. I hope you defend Little Busters better you do with SAO. lol
weiqifan said:
>.> what attracted you guys who enjoyed this? what appealed?

I'm just being curious.

I didn't play the visual novel so I'll just give you my reason.
Basic mathematics.

I add all the scores of Keys works that I watched (The main series' , not movies and side stories), and then divide that by the total amount of series'.

10+10+10+8+8 ÷ 5 = 9.2

Statistically, I'll end up giving this a 9.


Can't really defend either, as I would need to grab proof right out of the source from Little Busters if they lack explanations and shit. I'ma be fanboying Little Busters! hard though just cause its from Key. I give up defending most of SAO as it's just going down the drain, only few parts you can actually defend and even then you need the LN ;D.

So, if JC Staff doesn't mess up, you'll be able to defend it correctly?
And if you want to defend something when a event will happen in the future, just put it under spoiler tags.

I'm also going to be fanboying hard. Key hasn't disappointed me yet. So, I'll probably end up crying like I did with all the other works as well.
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Kayro said:
Seriously not going to read through 16 pages of butt hurt fans, but I did like this first episode.

I agree with this.
I can already guess what most of the complaints are too.

Btw, who are the honorable people that are defending this anime in these forums?


Hi. Key fag fan right here<3 + LB VN Fan. Also loling at people to expecting amazing things to happen from the first episode.

Yo Tyrel. I hope you defend Little Busters better you do with SAO. lol
weiqifan said:
>.> what attracted you guys who enjoyed this? what appealed?

I'm just being curious.

I didn't play the visual novel so I'll just give you my reason.
Basic mathematics.

I add all the scores of Keys works that I watched (The main series' , not movies and side stories), and then divide that by the total amount of series'.

10+10+10+8+8 ÷ 5 = 9.2

Statistically, I'll end up giving this a 9.


Can't really defend either, as I would need to grab proof right out of the source from Little Busters if they lack explanations and shit. I'ma be fanboying Little Busters! hard though just cause its from Key. I give up defending most of SAO as it's just going down the drain, only few parts you can actually defend and even then you need the LN ;D.


So, if JC Staff doesn't mess up, you'll be able to defend it correctly?
And if you want to defend something when a event will happen in the future, just put it under spoiler tags.

I'm also going to be fanboying hard. Key hasn't disappointed me yet. So, I'll probably end up crying like I did with all the other works as well.


Yeah, IF. Key hasn't disappointed me either, but different studios can put a nice dent in your hopes.
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Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Kayro said:
Seriously not going to read through 16 pages of butt hurt fans, but I did like this first episode.

I agree with this.
I can already guess what most of the complaints are too.

Btw, who are the honorable people that are defending this anime in these forums?


Hi. Key fag fan right here<3 + LB VN Fan. Also loling at people to expecting amazing things to happen from the first episode.

Yo Tyrel. I hope you defend Little Busters better you do with SAO. lol
weiqifan said:
>.> what attracted you guys who enjoyed this? what appealed?

I'm just being curious.

I didn't play the visual novel so I'll just give you my reason.
Basic mathematics.

I add all the scores of Keys works that I watched (The main series' , not movies and side stories), and then divide that by the total amount of series'.

10+10+10+8+8 ÷ 5 = 9.2

Statistically, I'll end up giving this a 9.


Can't really defend either, as I would need to grab proof right out of the source from Little Busters if they lack explanations and shit. I'ma be fanboying Little Busters! hard though just cause its from Key. I give up defending most of SAO as it's just going down the drain, only few parts you can actually defend and even then you need the LN ;D.


So, if JC Staff doesn't mess up, you'll be able to defend it correctly?
And if you want to defend something when a event will happen in the future, just put it under spoiler tags.

I'm also going to be fanboying hard. Key hasn't disappointed me yet. So, I'll probably end up crying like I did with all the other works as well.


Yeah, IF. Key hasn't disappointed me either, but different studios can put a nice dent in your hopes.

Don't bold the "if". Believe in JC Staff. Think positive thoughts. Key is also working closely with them on this project.

I don't want this to become Tsukihime. "There is no Little Busters anime" or like the first Kanon.
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To be honest, I completely enjoyed the first episode. I have my reservations about how well this will correlate to how I felt while playing the VN but I'm much feeling about it better now that I watched this episode.

... though I really missed the "I mean, you were eaten by the eel pie instead." exchange. xD

Is there a confirmation link that this will be 2-cour or more? I read in the other article that they say the series is "longer" but I thought that only referred to 2-cour as opposed to 1 cour.
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Tyrel said:
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Kayro said:
Seriously not going to read through 16 pages of butt hurt fans, but I did like this first episode.

I agree with this.
I can already guess what most of the complaints are too.

Btw, who are the honorable people that are defending this anime in these forums?


Hi. Key fag fan right here<3 + LB VN Fan. Also loling at people to expecting amazing things to happen from the first episode.

Yo Tyrel. I hope you defend Little Busters better you do with SAO. lol
weiqifan said:
>.> what attracted you guys who enjoyed this? what appealed?

I'm just being curious.

I didn't play the visual novel so I'll just give you my reason.
Basic mathematics.

I add all the scores of Keys works that I watched (The main series' , not movies and side stories), and then divide that by the total amount of series'.

10+10+10+8+8 ÷ 5 = 9.2

Statistically, I'll end up giving this a 9.


Can't really defend either, as I would need to grab proof right out of the source from Little Busters if they lack explanations and shit. I'ma be fanboying Little Busters! hard though just cause its from Key. I give up defending most of SAO as it's just going down the drain, only few parts you can actually defend and even then you need the LN ;D.


So, if JC Staff doesn't mess up, you'll be able to defend it correctly?
And if you want to defend something when a event will happen in the future, just put it under spoiler tags.

I'm also going to be fanboying hard. Key hasn't disappointed me yet. So, I'll probably end up crying like I did with all the other works as well.


Yeah, IF. Key hasn't disappointed me either, but different studios can put a nice dent in your hopes.

Don't bold the "if". Believe in JC Staff. Think positive thoughts. Key is also working closely with them on this project.

I don't want this to become Tsukihime. "There is no Little Busters anime" or like the first Kanon.


Yeah I know they are :P, as long as the story gets portrayed I'll be a happy camper. I never saw Tsukihime, so Inb4 that was total garbage ;D.
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I have a feeling this'll be taking a spot in my favorite anime list.

Not even going to go through the entire discussion page to hear people bitch about it not being a carbon-copy of the VN.
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ihateeveryone said:
I have a feeling this'll be taking a spot in my favorite anime list.

Not even going to go through the entire discussion page to hear people bitch about it not being a carbon-copy of the VN.


It's not really about being a carbon copy, more about people complaining about the quality of the anime. Which is still meh, even though I did for a bit.
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:

Don't bold the "if". Believe in JC Staff. Think positive thoughts. Key is also working closely with them on this project.

I don't want this to become Tsukihime. "There is no Little Busters anime" or like the first Kanon.


If they(J.C) dare to screw this one, then I'm gonna put them on top of my black list: the most horrible animation studio. Well the art/animation were already failed, please anything but not with the plot/story.

Production I.G was at a 2nd place after they failed on G.C, but Kuroko was so epic after that I had to erase their name out of the list, and the next coming anime are pyscho pass + robotics;note.
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ihateeveryone said:
I have a feeling this'll be taking a spot in my favorite anime list.

Not even going to go through the entire discussion page to hear people bitch about it not being a carbon-copy of the VN.

Most of the bitching I've read has been about how it's not Clannad v2 / not living up to that (when hey FIRST EPISODE... CHARACTER BUILDING YES) or about the animation quality.

I would say it's doing a fair/pretty good job at following the VN's events myself, but stuff has been cut by nature of adaptation.
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Seems like a very interesting series and I like it so far.

Also liked the OP.
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Kage said:
ihateeveryone said:
I have a feeling this'll be taking a spot in my favorite anime list.

Not even going to go through the entire discussion page to hear people bitch about it not being a carbon-copy of the VN.

Most of the bitching I've read has been about how it's not Clannad v2 / not living up to that (when hey FIRST EPISODE... CHARACTER BUILDING YES) or about the animation quality.

I would say it's doing a fair/pretty good job at following the VN's events myself, but stuff has been cut by nature of adaptation.


Lmao were people actually bitching about it not being a Clannad v2?
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Saw episode 1 again just to try and get my hopes up... Still think pacing was a bit fast. BUT, ok JC staff, you better not be putting 5 main character routes + rin2+refrain in 26 episodes. Cuz that is way too rushed. THEY better announce second season later...OR ELSE.
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Tyrel said:


Lmao were people actually bitching about it not being a Clannad v2?

Yah I've seen some people around the net bitch about it not being awesome expecting it to be like Clannad v2 and such.
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Takana_no_Hana said:


If they(J.C) dare to screw this one, then I'm gonna put them on top of my black list: the most horrible animation studio. Well the art/animation were already failed, please anything but not with the plot/story.


That concludes you care the animation the most than the rest(plot, etc). So I doubt how you will like this.

Like I said, it's JC Staff after all. If you're really expecting a good animation, then you shouldn't expect from JC Staff in the first place.


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I seriously don't understand this forum.

The first episode was good, all characters were presented at a harmonial pace, there were no problems with development, funny moments also included, the animation is not the best for today's standards but it's far from being "meh" or "normal", the tone of the soundtrack is quite enjoyable and for something J.C Staff is doing I must say it's surprisingly well done.

I never read the VN but it seems to be pretty faithful to it for some news I've seen. Yet people complaining, go figure.
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Niyawa said:


I never read the VN but it seems to be pretty faithful to it for some news I've seen. Yet people complaining, go figure.


That's the main problem. People go tend to over-look some flaws so that they can bash a series as much as they want. Especially those series that are given the hype.


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I was incredibly overjoyed to listen to the soundtrack and the voicing. I imagined that I could just minimize or close my laptop lid and pretty much relive playing the VN at some points.

Maybe I was going into this with really low expectations at the adaptation because, again, JC Staff, but I was pleasantly surprised when I watched it. I had a grin on my face because of it. I was still a little disappointed at some things being kept out but that's typical "I wish they had kept this in the adaption" stuff.
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I seriously don't understand this forum.

The first episode was good, all characters were presented at a harmonial pace, there were no problems with development, funny moments also included, the animation is not the best for today's standards but it's far from being "meh" or "normal", the tone of the soundtrack is quite enjoyable and for something J.C Staff is doing I must say it's surprisingly well done.

I never read the VN but it seems to be pretty faithful to it for some news I've seen. Yet people complaining, go figure.


MAL. Don't expect anything less :D. It seemed a bit fast paced though for going right into Komari there, but as key said they will need to shorten some stuff to fit everything in. Also If I remember correctly, getting to her on that spot took me a good few hrs.
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I was incredibly overjoyed to listen to the soundtrack and the voicing. I imagined that I could just minimize or close my laptop lid and pretty much relive playing the VN at some points.

Maybe I was going into this with really low expectations at the adaptation because, again, JC Staff, but I was pleasantly surprised when I watched it. I had a grin on my face because of it. I was still a little disappointed at some things being kept out but that's typical "I wish they had kept this in the adaption" stuff.
Tyrel said:
Niyawa said:
I seriously don't understand this forum.

The first episode was good, all characters were presented at a harmonial pace, there were no problems with development, funny moments also included, the animation is not the best for today's standards but it's far from being "meh" or "normal", the tone of the soundtrack is quite enjoyable and for something J.C Staff is doing I must say it's surprisingly well done.

I never read the VN but it seems to be pretty faithful to it for some news I've seen. Yet people complaining, go figure.


MAL. Don't expect anything less :D. It seemed a bit fast paced though for going right into Komari there, but as key said they will need to shorten some stuff to fit everything in. Also If I remember correctly, getting to her on that spot took me a good few hrs.

Kage said:
I was incredibly overjoyed to listen to the soundtrack and the voicing. I imagined that I could just minimize or close my laptop lid and pretty much relive playing the VN at some points.

Maybe I was going into this with really low expectations at the adaptation because, again, JC Staff, but I was pleasantly surprised when I watched it. I had a grin on my face because of it. I was still a little disappointed at some things being kept out but that's typical "I wish they had kept this in the adaption" stuff.


Omfg, yes. When I heard the sound affects of battle, and the whole title names that were being giving with the sound. I was like <3333. I felt like I was playing the VN.
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Niyawa said:
I seriously don't understand this forum.

The first episode was good, all characters were presented at a harmonial pace, there were no problems with development, funny moments also included, the animation is not the best for today's standards but it's far from being "meh" or "normal", the tone of the soundtrack is quite enjoyable and for something J.C Staff is doing I must say it's surprisingly well done.

I never read the VN but it seems to be pretty faithful to it for some news I've seen. Yet people complaining, go figure.

I love KyoAni as much as the next guy, but I don't go complaining about every little detail in JC Staff does "wrong".

If you were to go through this thread, there'll probably be complaints about those still shots in the flashback. I actually enjoyed that scene a lot. It was very fitting.
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
Niyawa said:
I seriously don't understand this forum.

The first episode was good, all characters were presented at a harmonial pace, there were no problems with development, funny moments also included, the animation is not the best for today's standards but it's far from being "meh" or "normal", the tone of the soundtrack is quite enjoyable and for something J.C Staff is doing I must say it's surprisingly well done.

I never read the VN but it seems to be pretty faithful to it for some news I've seen. Yet people complaining, go figure.

I love KyoAni as much as the next guy, but I don't go complaining about every little detail in JC Staff does "wrong".

If you were to go through this thread, there'll probably be complaints about those still shots in the flashback. I actually enjoyed that scene a lot. It was very fitting.


BINGO~. There were lots of people complaining about the still shots in past pages ;D.
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Takana_no_Hana said:


If they(J.C) dare to screw this one, then I'm gonna put them on top of my black list: the most horrible animation studio. Well the art/animation were already failed, please anything but not with the plot/story.


That concludes you care the animation the most than the rest(plot, etc). So I doubt how you will like this.

Like I said, it's JC Staff after all. If you're really expecting a good animation, then you shouldn't expect from JC Staff in the first place.


I've posted this before, so I'm gonna post this once again.

Takana_no_Hana said:
Tbh, as a fan of Key, and Key's anime adaptation which mostly came from Kyo Ani, you guys know that art/animation hold a large percentage of success in Key's adaptation. Whoever doesn't care about the artworks is lying.

Just look at this scene gave me a chill


Honestly? low budget that much? And those slide-show scenes at the beginning. J.C Staff should have dropped a portion of their projects this season if they want to animate LB!
Look at Kyo, just only a few anime each year(this year Hyouka and Chuuni --> see the differences? ), meanwhile, J.C does a few anime each season (bakuman, LB, sakuranosou pet kanojo, last season? I didn't even remember cause I don't want to). That's just too much if they want to make something good.

I know J.C staffs tried their best to adapt LB!, but the animation is nowhere, yes, nowhere near Kyo Ani. As a fan of Key's adaptation, I expect more, and I require more. If they want to make a cheap animated adaptation, they better not to do it in the first place. Not because it's J.C Staff that we have to keep our expectation low. It's fking nonsense.I blame J.C for the cheap budget!

Beside, the first episode was enjoyable cause I managed to withstand the artworks. I felt a little rushed, but it can't be helped due to the time constrained. Okay, I'm gonna stick around for several episode. Hope they won't screw anything, beside the artworks which have already been screwed.


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maxie said:

2: As others have said, animation. Expecting KyoAni level is stupid, but I wish it had been Index/Railgun level at least, as that is an example of good J.C Staff animation IMO.


Not sure, but if you saw what other studio have done with their anime, you would know that J.C animation is the most terrible of all.

P.A with AB! is nearly on pair with Kyo Ani.
Shaft? Denpa Onna, Nisemono beat the crap out of J.C
White Fox? Steins;Gate
Production I.G? Kuroko no basket, Guilty Crown. They are one of the best animation studio beside Kyo Ani
Ufotable? Kara no Kyoukai, Fate/Zero
A-1 Pictures has to keep their budget down a little for SAO, but if you take a good look at all the episodes, they were done well, especially important fighting scenes when a lot of frames were used within a single sec.

Urgh ... Oh well, maybe J.C could animate LB better if they hadn't taken bakuman ss3, and sakuranosou pet kanojo at the same time this season.


All of Key's products were adapted with great animation, and the animation was a part to contribute to their success. You just simply don't need to worry about the quality of its plots, nor the structure. Cause Key exceeds in them.

Clannad, Key, Air, and AB!(although not entire Key studio took care of this one, only Jun and Na-ga joined forces with P.A).

And you think I only care about the animation?

BuliTM said:


I little misunderstanding here - I did watch Clannad anime but never played the VN. I do not remember if I watched/played anything else from Key, though I played few VNs overall (though few years ago).

Takana_no_Hana said:
I don't know but comedies in LB! didn't make me laugh like I did when I watched Clannad. The characters were somewhat forced to create comedies, instead of letting it flown naturally like Clannad.

I still remember the first scene when Sunohara ran into the door way and begged Tomoya for help, then Tomoya was like:" Eh! I don't care", and he even made fun of him when shouted out loud to alert the senpais. That was priceless.


THIS.
I was interested in characters from Clannad from the beginning. It actually felt like high school with bunch of fun teenagers (except from occasional exaggerated physical comedy). Little Busters felt like a random compilation of slapstick comedy that was supposed to double for character representation.


First episode was nothing but a mediocre one, and you can see that I'm not the only who one who wasn't impressed by LB!. Sorry but my expectation for LB! is very high, and I have the right to hope for it.
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Really liked it.The animation was just fine, even good I'd say.Having some stills doesn't make it automatically all ''horrible''(and the stills actually worked really well with the flasback).
Only scene I think they kinda screwed up was when Kyousuke was reading.The visual novel portrayed the 'holy' atmosphere in his classroom way better and his smile wasn't 'lolrapeface' like in the anime, which made it really charming.

The rest was nice though.I enjoyed the little foreshadowing bits they added like the beginning and Masato and Kengo's serious reactions when Kyousuke said his 'if only this could last forever' line.

It really reminds me that Refrain is actually going to get animated at some point.I'm looking forward to that much more than any of the girls's routes, that's for sure.Crossing my fingers for a second season with it, if they pulled it off well it'd be an easy 9~10.

And were people seriously expecting this to have Clannad After Story type drama right off the bat?It's a KEY show lol, humor first drama next.And the comedy in LB is damn hilarious.

Something I also didn't get was how some here actually thought it would've been better to change the OP/ED/OST.That would've been retarded, pointless, and just incur rage from VN fans such as myself.It's a good thing that they kept it.Y'know, complaints like these really prove people just like to bitch about anything and everything.

And why does everyone I find like P.A. works's work on AB so much?The animation may have been good (not that I remember it being anything all that amazing) but the actual designs for the characters looked really flat, thank god Little Busters didn't turn out looking like that.
At least here J.C. Staff is giving actual dimension to their character designs, even if it's not nearly as good as Kyoani's.
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Takana_no_Hana said:
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Takana_no_Hana said:


If they(J.C) dare to screw this one, then I'm gonna put them on top of my black list: the most horrible animation studio. Well the art/animation were already failed, please anything but not with the plot/story.


That concludes you care the animation the most than the rest(plot, etc). So I doubt how you will like this.

Like I said, it's JC Staff after all. If you're really expecting a good animation, then you shouldn't expect from JC Staff in the first place.


I've posted this before, so I'm gonna post this once again.

Takana_no_Hana said:
Tbh, as a fan of Key, and Key's anime adaptation which mostly came from Kyo Ani, you guys know that art/animation hold a large percentage of success in Key's adaptation. Whoever doesn't care about the artworks is lying.

Just look at this scene gave me a chill


Honestly? low budget that much? And those slide-show scenes at the beginning. J.C Staff should have dropped a portion of their projects this season if they want to animate LB!
Look at Kyo, just only a few anime each year(this year Hyouka and Chuuni --> see the differences? ), meanwhile, J.C does a few anime each season (bakuman, LB, sakuranosou pet kanojo, last season? I didn't even remember cause I don't want to). That's just too much if they want to make something good.

I know J.C staffs tried their best to adapt LB!, but the animation is nowhere, yes, nowhere near Kyo Ani. As a fan of Key's adaptation, I expect more, and I require more. If they want to make a cheap animated adaptation, they better not to do it in the first place. Not because it's J.C Staff that we have to keep our expectation low. It's fking nonsense.I blame J.C for the cheap budget!

Beside, the first episode was enjoyable cause I managed to withstand the artworks. I felt a little rushed, but it can't be helped due to the time constrained. Okay, I'm gonna stick around for several episode. Hope they won't screw anything, beside the artworks which have already been screwed.


Takana_no_Hana said:
maxie said:

2: As others have said, animation. Expecting KyoAni level is stupid, but I wish it had been Index/Railgun level at least, as that is an example of good J.C Staff animation IMO.


Not sure, but if you saw what other studio have done with their anime, you would know that J.C animation is the most terrible of all.

P.A with AB! is nearly on pair with Kyo Ani.
Shaft? Denpa Onna, Nisemono beat the crap out of J.C
White Fox? Steins;Gate
Production I.G? Kuroko no basket, Guilty Crown. They are one of the best animation studio beside Kyo Ani
Ufotable? Kara no Kyoukai, Fate/Zero
A-1 Pictures has to keep their budget down a little for SAO, but if you take a good look at all the episodes, they were done well, especially important fighting scenes when a lot of frames were used within a single sec.

Urgh ... Oh well, maybe J.C could animate LB better if they hadn't taken bakuman ss3, and sakuranosou pet kanojo at the same time this season.


All of Key's products were adapted with great animation, and the animation was a part to contribute to their success. You just simply don't need to worry about the quality of its plots, nor the structure. Cause Key exceeds in them.

Clannad, Key, Air, and AB!(although not entire Key studio took care of this one, only Jun and Na-ga joined forces with P.A).

And you think I only care about the animation?



Took a look at J.C Upcoming romance with 24 episodes or so, I lol'd because the animation is on par or almost better than Little Busters! Oh well storyline just needs to stay intact for me to enjoy this series<3
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Takana_no_Hana said:
Sa-chan_ said:
Takana_no_Hana said:




If they(J.C) dare to screw this one, then I'm gonna put them on top of my black list: the most horrible animation studio. Well the art/animation were already failed, please anything but not with the plot/story.


That concludes you care the animation the most than the rest(plot, etc). So I doubt how you will like this.

Like I said, it's JC Staff after all. If you're really expecting a good animation, then you shouldn't expect from JC Staff in the first place.


I've posted this before, so I'm gonna post this once again.



And you think I only care about the animation?




About that, first of all, art and animation are way different to each other.

Second, I didn't say you only care about the animation. What I said was "you care the animation the most than the rest(plot, etc)"



Takana_no_Hana said:

First episode was nothing but a mediocre one, and you can see that I'm not the only who one who wasn't impressed by LB!. Sorry but my expectation for LB! is very high, and I have the right to hope for it.


Sa-chan_ said:


As this episode was part in the VN... To be honest, as I first played the VN of LB, I also found this as boring and kinda corny at first but that negative feeling didn't last long the moment I reach one of the story arcs.

You just need to be patient.


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Because it is an adaptation from Key that I care about the animation quality.

Look at their past adaptation, do you find any anime with bad animation quality? (AB!, clannad, air, kanon)



About that, first of all, art and animation are way different to each other.


Art -> failed
Animation -> already failed if you didn't notice they used the slide show scenes in the beginning to reduce the episode budget, and character's movements weren't flawless and smooth.
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Good art, good story. Good animation. But the comedy is kinda so-so, some were corny, some were not.

Not knowing the VN, i'm just hoping to see a good story, but the bad comedy (for me) just kinda threw my enjoyment. I'm not gonna say it's bad overall, it's just the first episode, so definitely stay to see more of this.
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I see there are people who think that those that say they don't care about animation are lying. Let me tell you this: STFU!!!! Animation is probably the least important thing in any anime. Characters, story, that's what's important. I am a writer myself, and now If anyone would take my notebooks and papers I write on would say "WTF? What is this handwriting?"

It's not like I can't write nicely, I just don't care. I had a friend who actually said that and didn't even want to read the story. Then he read it and said "WoW, that's amazing, how the fuck do you come up with it?"

So it's not everything as it looks like. You don't judge book by it's covers.

The same thing goes for this. Animation my not be perfect, but the story and good character portraits are enough. Also I see many people complain about the hands? Do you know it's the hardest part to draw? It took me 3 months of practice to get decent at that, and most manga artists will tell you "Wow, hands it's still hard" even artists like Kubo or Kishimoto. So many poses hands can take. And most of the pictures people showed about hands are frames that don't last that long and you hardly even pay attention to that unless you really only look at animation and pay no attention to other aspects.
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Book is different from Visual novel. You're a writer yourself? So I am an artist, and I can draw really well.



Hands aren't hard, the hardest parts in anime character are the faces(hair style, especially the eyes) and body. What makes Key different if it isn't for their eyes design that stand out than the rest?

Their story is superior, clannad is my top fav ani and until now I can't even find any rom-dra which is near the level of clannad. Cause it exceeded in both visuals and story/plot.
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Takana_no_Hana said:
Because it is an adaptation from Key that I care about the animation quality.

Look at their past adaptation, do you find any anime with bad animation quality? (AB!, clannad, air, kanon)





I don't see the point on how Key is related to the animation quality. INB4KYOANIAGAIN.

Key/Visual Arts are only responsible for the story/plot, art/design, characters, and etc. Not the animation.


Takana_no_Hana said:

About that, first of all, art and animation are way different to each other.


Art -> failed
Animation -> already failed if you didn't notice they used the slide show scenes in the beginning to reduce the episode budget, and character's movements weren't flawless and smooth.


I'm just saying art and animation are not the same in case you didn't know. But since you said both of them failed, I could care less. In fact, I would agree that some visuals are bad and it's inevitable for JC Staff but it doesn't really bother me. About the flashback, it doesn't really bother me also as why should I bother about it?


What I only care about is an adaptation which is faithful to the VN and a decent animation which is bearable to watch. As long as they can keep those, I have no complaints about JC Staff.


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People are looking for errors/bad screenshots in this adaptation.

If someone were to thoroughly go through Air, Kanon, Clannad and Angel Beats, there'll probably be a few blunders too.

JC staff will correct all mistakes for the Blu Rays/Dvds.
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Takana_no_Hana said:
Book is different from Visual novel. You're a writer yourself? So I am an artist, and I can draw really well.



Hands aren't hard, the hardest parts in anime character are the faces(hair style, especially the eyes) and body. What makes Key different if it isn't for their eyes design that stand out than the rest?

Their story is superior, clannad is my top fav ani and until now I can't even find any rom-dra which is near the level of clannad. Cause it exceeded in both visuals and story/plot.


I am writer and manga artist, I mean I only started drawing because I want to illustrate my own work. I already won many prizes and my stories are in many newspapers :D

Anyway. You may say hands are not that hard, but honestly eyes were something easiest for me. Face too. Hair is a little hard, bot not that much. Hands and feet, those are what many people have problem with. I think you can even google it. I draw even realism.

Here you can check some of my older work (drawings), most are done by Crilley's tutorials (I watch video and then replicate what I saw, I don't like doing it line by line, that is not the way to learn) also some recent texts and songs (in English and my native language)

http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said:
People are looking for errors/bad screenshots in this adaptation.

If someone were to thoroughly go through Air, Kanon, Clannad and Angel Beats, there'll probably be a few blunders too.

JC staff will correct all mistakes for the Blu Rays/Dvds.


If they go throughly Air, Kanon, Clannad, AB!, it only makes things worst for J.C honestly.

Did you see Ufotable or Shaft handles with their products? TVs version is good enough, and it will be improved in BD/Dvd, not to correct mistakes, but to improve on the quality.

@Sa-chan: it does not bother you, doesn't mean that it will not bother me. Cause we have different opinions.
@akutasame94: Sorry but I'm not interested in your works, I've been drawing since I was a little kid.
Okay I did take a look at it, and I find this is your best drawing:
http://dulex94.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d4j3e65
the eyes are too simple tbh.
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I think the first episode was okay. The animation wasn't the best, but I think I can live with that. I think it was good choice to stick with the OST from the game, witch gave me familiar feeling from the game. Though the anime seems rather rushed, I don't have any complaints here. I just hope they'll do the second season for the 'refrain' route. Though it's too early to say...
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Takana_no_Hana said:
Book is different from Visual novel. You're a writer yourself? So I am an artist, and I can draw really well.



Hands aren't hard, the hardest parts in anime character are the faces(hair style, especially the eyes) and body. What makes Key different if it isn't for their eyes design that stand out than the rest?

Their story is superior, clannad is my top fav ani and until now I can't even find any rom-dra which is near the level of clannad. Cause it exceeded in both visuals and story/plot.


You can draw really well, huh? If you are going to state that so matter-of-factly, then you should at least show us a picture that confirms your statement. Especially if you are going to so arrogantly say that you are not interested in someone else's works and go on to brag about how you've been drawing since you were a little kid.

Also, story > animation. I would much rather watch an anime with a wonderful story and bad animation, than watch an anime with amazing animation and a terrible story. Higurashi had bad animation, but I loved it 1000000x more than Guilty Crown and it's shitty story and characters.

But hey, everyone is different. If the animation bothers you THAT MUCH, then you could, you know, not watch it. I don't know why people were expecting this to come out looking better than Hyouka or something.
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