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tezann_t said: I feel like every episode discussion thread inevitably turns into a war between those who think this series is terrible and those who try to appreciate the episode. I've tried to make some explanations in favor of the series, but at the end of the day, I think there's little point in trying to counter every opinion different from your own. Those who don't like the series have either the choice of dropping it or coming back every week to rehash the same criticisms. It's whatever. It's like an eternal cycle :). |
Vforvendetta said: tezann_t said: I feel like every episode discussion thread inevitably turns into a war between those who think this series is terrible and those who try to appreciate the episode. I've tried to make some explanations in favor of the series, but at the end of the day, I think there's little point in trying to counter every opinion different from your own. Those who don't like the series have either the choice of dropping it or coming back every week to rehash the same criticisms. It's whatever. It's like an eternal cycle :). tell me about it, your better off ignoring the opinions of the haters and trying to change them because in the end everyone has their own opinion and they will most likely argue back instead, give facts when what they say is false, regardless of their opinion, facts are facts e.g. all the girls in SAO are weak = false Asuna is strong = fact |
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| Hum... Guys I'm rather confused, we all think that asuna is in love with kirito, BUT, in the beginnig of this ep asuna said she was going to meet someone, well, I instantly thought it was kirito but it turned out it wasn't him, so she might be ''seeing'' someone, just sayin'~~ |
LeBaka said: Hum... Guys I'm rather confused, we all think that asuna is in love with kirito, BUT, in the beginnig of this ep asuna said she was going to meet someone, well, I instantly thought it was kirito but it turned out it wasn't him, so she might be ''seeing'' someone, just sayin'~~ No it was Kirito. She met with Kirito and recommended Lisbeth to him, the next day Kirito went to her to get a new sword. |
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kamikaze_1996 said: sirwence said: speaking of Asunas strength and ability in sao well its more or less just a bit below him. yeap |
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DraconisMarch said: Another stupid bitch for the haremz whom he has to save of course (because obviously every girl is helpless in this show and can't take care of themselves and needs Kirito to save them). This show's writers are obviously misogynists. LOL @ her saying she loves him. OTAKU WET DREAM SHOW YEAH BUDDY. I FORGED THIS SWORD FOR YOU WITH LOVE! The love I started feeling after knowing you for half a day! And the dialog at the end made me LOL like none other. SMH. Regicide said: LOL yep.that cg dragon was so retarded lizbeth smelted dragon shit into a sword double tsundere this show Kirito doesn't have an 'harem'. Lisbeth is a master mace, she's stronger than 80% of the players but obviously you can't compare her to Kirito which is constantly fighting solo on the front line. Asuna is one of the strongest player in SAO, there's only a very small handfull of people that are stronger than her. The episode was bad I'll agree, the chapter of the novel wasn't. More than half of the chapter was about the character's thought and description which they almost completely left out. If this feel like an emotional rush and sound stupid in the anime, Lisbeth's thought process is well constructed in the novel and make her feel much more human than here. |
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Vhaeraun said: I approve this. |
HauntingShock said: Vhaeraun said: I approve this. |
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| I felt bad for Liz, but the crying was a bit overdone. But well, can't really blame her; who wouldn't fall for Kirito? He's got all the characteristics of a typical shoujo male lead. Overly protective, kind, etc. Damn, Kirito's perfect. |
Vhaeraun said: I'm a little disappointed they didn't show the duel between Asuna and Kirito which was supposed to have taken place when they disagreed over boss tactics (which was alluded to in the beginning of ep. 5). Maybe they'll flash back to it later on for just a bit, but that point marks when Asuna began to take notice of Kirito. Kirito soundly defeated her there by faking her out. |
| Well, didn't like Lisbeth too much when i read the light novel, but have a much better impression of her after this episode. Still, Kirito and Asuna are a match made in heaven =D |
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itsvero said: I felt bad for Liz, but the crying was a bit overdone. But well, can't really blame her; who wouldn't fall for Kirito? He's got all the characteristics of a typical shoujo male lead. Overly protective, kind, etc. Damn, Kirito's perfect. Naw the crying seemed overdone because Liz gave up too easily. There may be some reasons for that but it wasn't shown to the viewers. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
itsvero said: I felt bad for Liz, but the crying was a bit overdone. But well, can't really blame her; who wouldn't fall for Kirito? He's got all the characteristics of a typical shoujo male lead. Overly protective, kind, etc. Damn, Kirito's perfect. The crying/drama? was definitely overdone. if you read this side story in the novel it's actually worse since you are reading her inner thoughts. And man she's such a drama queen. I feel like puking when reading her ss in the novel near the end, crying like a shit for a half and day feeling?? LOL, THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T SHOW HER INNER THOUGHTS IN THE ANIME, SINCE IT IS GROSS. |
DraconisMarch said: Love can be sudden and spontaneous. There are loads of movies that show that and there is a reason one night stands exist you know. LOL @ her saying she loves him. OTAKU WET DREAM SHOW YEAH BUDDY. I FORGED THIS SWORD FOR YOU WITH LOVE! The love I started feeling after knowing you for half a day! Also realistically speaking he did save her a lot so there is totally nothing wrong in the sudden falling in love with your hero thing. Hero being Kirito for Rika. |
| Man, these episodes fly by. I keep saying to myself at the end of every episode, "No, it can't be over yet!" Absolutely love this anime. Wish it was about 40 some episodes. That way it would seem a little less rushed. Though, I don't take as much notice as most because I have not read the novel. |
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sirwence said: They can turn this into a side story that is narrated and told by Lizbeth. It is perfectly possible. I've seen anime do it before just fine.rishardew said: I am as nit picky as the rest of the LN crowd and I enjoyed I admit the first 4 LN's a bit more than the rest of the serious up to date (not saying I dont enjoy it just the first 4 were the ones ive enjoyed the most so far.. anyways) But can you both please explain to me how in an adaption you properly adapt inner dialogue... I get what you mean theres a good deal of it that goes on with Lisbeth.. But you see its INNER dialogue ie SILENT - This is a Visual and Audio adaption - bringing Silent adaptions to that base medium is exceedingly hard - and it usually comes off as well to be blunt 'stupid' and then i'd be seeing you bash how bad they adapted it - can't win - and the best methods are usually action/body language with the occasional inner dialogue turned into 'unheard' outer or short* scenes where they have inner vocals. And you can't do that to much or it looks and sounds terrible. 5layer said: They didn't have to cut out the part where they accept the quest for the dragon. They didn't have to cut out most of Liz's inner dialogue that actually makes her actions seem reasonable rather than a random "I love you" out of the blue. They didn't have to cut out Liz running out of the shop with Asuna. They didn't have to cut out all the extra information about other players having tried to get the ingot and failing. They didn't have to cut out the cooking part. They didn't have to cut out the parts where Kirito was telling Liz stories about past adventures he has had. Yeah. This could have been 2 episodes if they had slowed it down and added in all of those, and then it wouldn't have been a rushed emotionless mess. Exactly my thoughts! |
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They can turn this into a side story that is narrated and told by Lizbeth. It is perfectly possible. I've seen anime do it before just fine. They are trying to make an anime from a novel, not just bring all the stuff from the novel and show it on the screen, including inner thoughts. Would u mind naming a few show plz ? Just for references. |
Takana_no_HanaAug 19, 2012 9:24 PM
Vforvendetta said: They can turn this into a side story that is narrated and told by Lizbeth. It is perfectly possible. I've seen anime do it before just fine. They are trying to make an anime from a novel, not just bring all the stuff from the novel and show it on the screen, including inner thoughts. Would u mind naming a few show plz ? Just for references. DRRR! & Jinrui which is airing this season. |
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| Needs more dual wield. Just a bit more! Too bad the part where he dual wields them to test them in front of her were cut. I'm glad the wall run was kept though. |
ImagineThat said: Vforvendetta said: They can turn this into a side story that is narrated and told by Lizbeth. It is perfectly possible. I've seen anime do it before just fine. They are trying to make an anime from a novel, not just bring all the stuff from the novel and show it on the screen, including inner thoughts. Would u mind naming a few show plz ? Just for references. DRRR! & Jinrui which is airing this season. Most of them are based story telling, the story in durara happened under multiple direction which required different perspective to approach, thus involved a point of view from each character every few episode, if they don't use that narrated method you wouldn't know which char's perspective you are watching. You cannot bring its style to apply to every show cause it is the style that makes Drrr! stand out. Jinrui is the same, comedy/parody revolves around Watashi, under Watashi narrated, she speaks up the director's voices over ridiculous things happened in society, it's pretty much like an animated talk show with Watashi as a main guest. You don't need to expose inner thoughts to see the char's emotions, take a look at Honey and clover, Clannad. DO you really need to listen to the character inner thoughts to know what they are thinking? There's no way I would want Lizbeth to narrate her own story, because the story is happening to her right now, it wasn't just a sweet memory but she is experiencing the wonderful thing in a human life. |
Takana_no_HanaAug 20, 2012 12:19 AM
Vforvendetta said: ImagineThat said: Vforvendetta said: They can turn this into a side story that is narrated and told by Lizbeth. It is perfectly possible. I've seen anime do it before just fine. They are trying to make an anime from a novel, not just bring all the stuff from the novel and show it on the screen, including inner thoughts. Would u mind naming a few show plz ? Just for references. DRRR! & Jinrui which is airing this season. Most of them are based story telling, the story in durara happened under multiple direction which required different perspective to approach, thus involved a point of view from each character every few episode, if they don't use that narrated method you wouldn't know which char's perspective you are watching. You cannot bring its style to apply to every show cause it is the style that makes Drrr! stand out. Jinrui is the same, comedy/parody revolves around Watashi, under Watashi narrated, she speaks up the director's voices over ridiculous things happened in society, it's pretty much like an animated talk show with Watashi as a main guest. You don't need to expose inner thoughts to see the char's emotions, take a look at Honey and clover, Clannad. DO you really need to listen to the character inner thoughts to know what they are thinking? Haruhi. Without Kyon's inner monologues his character would be the generic useless MC. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Maddo_scientisto said: HauntingShock said: Vhaeraun said: I approve this. |
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| Damn, I didn't even get a chance to come back and give examples. But yeah, Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is a very good example. |
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BloodRequiem said: Haruhi. Without Kyon's inner monologues his character would be the generic useless MC. The second season was pretty much a disaster. It was just bad production which cannot be saved by different telling style |
| i don't think doing inner monologues and telling the story from the head will work in this episode, they would need much more open scenes where no one is talking or doing anything to fit in the dialogue from the LN also this episode was pretty compact in itself already, there were barely any scenes where you could fit detailed inner monologues like the LN and if they tried cramming it in it would be an eyesore with non-stop talking to be honest you could already tell how they were feeling through their expressions, although it wasn't as clear as the LN, it was there, and you could understand the gist of it some people who haven't even read the LN could still see that liz was searching for something real in the fake world and kirito gave her a warmth which was real hence the reason why she fell in love with him |
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Vforvendetta said: What kind of stupid comeback is that? The first season wasn't a disaster and did the same thing. Your point is invalid. You may as well dig up some anime like Mars of Destruction and say that the way they did something didn't work and therefore cannot work in any anime. That is effectively the point you just tried to make.BloodRequiem said: The second season was pretty much a disaster. It was just bad production which cannot be saved by different telling styleHaruhi. Without Kyon's inner monologues his character would be the generic useless MC. |
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| I just want to point out the fact that if this episode was changed into inner monologues or story telling style, there's no way to guarantee it would be better than it is right now. For example, this episode doesn't have a strong impact on the viewer about the character emotions. True, I will admit that, with the amount of time given. How about Honey and Clover, Clannad? Did these two need inner thoughts or story telling styles to give the viewer a hint what's going on in the character's mind? Or their emotions? Good version: H&C, Clannad. Bad version: SAO ep7. Obviously not, it's all there, on the screen, waiting for the viewer to figure it out. Unless a minority of the audience is dense and stupid as mc in typical harem shows. Same apply for story telling or inner thoughts style. Good version: Haruhi ss1, Drrr! Bad version: Haruhi ss2 What they should do right now is to give the chapter more time, more episode, invest in minor details, not just changing the style. It was just bad production that makes the show fail to deliver what it should deliver. |
Takana_no_HanaAug 20, 2012 3:01 AM
amc9988 said: itsvero said: I felt bad for Liz, but the crying was a bit overdone. But well, can't really blame her; who wouldn't fall for Kirito? He's got all the characteristics of a typical shoujo male lead. Overly protective, kind, etc. Damn, Kirito's perfect. The crying/drama? was definitely overdone. if you read this side story in the novel it's actually worse since you are reading her inner thoughts. And man she's such a drama queen. In other words: You are either "inexperienced", or you're a woman. You are forgiven in both cases. All women go into fits of drama, even the "low-maintenance" kind like my GF. So Lisbeth's reaction is perfectly believable. It doesn't come close to the over-the-top drama some women are capable of. It's the guy's job to nod sagely and listen quietly, while trying to defuse his counterpart before she has a conniption. As guys, our's is not to reason "why". At times like these, the words "Logic" and "Reason" don't apply to the fairer sex. If we want to inject "Reasonableness" into their mindsets, we have to do it delicately with a few well-known tricks of the trade. If a guy handles it wrong, his GF/spouse is going to lash out at the person closest to her...which is probably himself. If a guy handles it right, he'll get some peace of mind, a smile, a hug, and quite often, a bonus. To quote my associates, it's like handling a bomb: Do it "like you were handling a woman" - or be far far away when it goes off (there's also one about the "Earth moving"). kamikaze_1996 said: i don't think doing inner monologues and telling the story from the head will work in this episode, they would need much more open scenes where no one is talking or doing anything to fit in the dialogue from the LN also this episode was pretty compact in itself already, there were barely any scenes where you could fit detailed inner monologues like the LN and if they tried cramming it in it would be an eyesore with non-stop talking. Agreed, this is about as good as it gets with this 25 episode format. The biggest constraint to adding more depth is simply "Time". There's not enough time to add all the atmosphere and nuances that are part and parcel of the first four novels. |
Vforvendetta said: Obviously, which is why we are talking hypothetically in the case where the inner dialogue IS handled correctly and DOES convey the thoughts of the character in a way that makes the events in the anime not appear as forced emotionless bullshit. Of course, there are ways to convey the feelings without the inner dialogue, but regardless, the anime failed to do even that because the director is an idiot. I never really said the reason this sucked was the lack of inner dialogue in the first place. It was just one way they could have went about improving this failure.I just want to point out the fact that if this episode was changed into inner monologues or story telling style, there's no way to guarantee it would be better than it is right now. I wish ufotable or kyoani adapted SAO instead, but there really is no chance that is going to happen. Jerrychiang said: Oh really? How is there no time? They CANNOT adapt the 9 novels in 24 episodes and they cannot end the story in 24 episodes regardless. Therefore, there is no excuse for why they are rushing this since they wont be finishing it whether they rush or not.kamikaze_1996 said: i don't think doing inner monologues and telling the story from the head will work in this episode, they would need much more open scenes where no one is talking or doing anything to fit in the dialogue from the LN also this episode was pretty compact in itself already, there were barely any scenes where you could fit detailed inner monologues like the LN and if they tried cramming it in it would be an eyesore with non-stop talking. Agreed, this is about as good as it gets with this 25 episode format. The biggest constraint to adding more depth is simply "Time". There's not enough time to add all the atmosphere and nuances that are part and parcel of the first four novels. |
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| the dragon ruined this wonderful episode :( |
| Lol no harsh feeling, but if you said so then I will say if they handled this episode beautifully there is no need for the inner thoughts to appear either. I think they planned to complete up to the 4th vol which would be the case. Not sure what they were thinking, but if they decided to only complete the 1st or 2nd volume, and the sales weren't good enough, SAO would be left unfinished. You already knew what I'm talking about. 1-4, 5-6, 7, 8, 9-10. And yeah, it was just the director fault. But I'm not really sure about wanting ufotable or kyo ani to adapt this one, cause ufotable with kara no kyoukai, F/Z seem to be the mature type, which contrast with SAO, a shounen light novel for teenager in general. kyo ani is my fav studio but they have barely adapted any adventure/fantasy/shounen type like SAO. They are only good in adapting KEY's vn, slice of life, drama and romance type, mostly about school life. It would be weird if they agreed to adapt this one. And they were so busy with their projects that they rejected KEY's little buster. JC.Staff adaption = 90% fail, toradora is an exception. |
Takana_no_HanaAug 20, 2012 3:51 AM
5layer said: Vforvendetta said: Obviously, which is why we are talking hypothetically in the case where the inner dialogue IS handled correctly and DOES convey the thoughts of the character in a way that makes the events in the anime not appear as forced emotionless bullshit. Of course, there are ways to convey the feelings without the inner dialogue, but regardless, the anime failed to do even that because the director is an idiot. I never really said the reason this sucked was the lack of inner dialogue in the first place. It was just one way they could have went about improving this failure.I just want to point out the fact that if this episode was changed into inner monologues or story telling style, there's no way to guarantee it would be better than it is right now. I wish ufotable or kyoani adapted SAO instead, but there really is no chance that is going to happen. Jerrychiang said: Oh really? How is there no time? They CANNOT adapt the 9 novels in 24 episodes and they cannot end the story in 24 episodes regardless. Therefore, there is no excuse for why they are rushing this since they wont be finishing it whether they rush or not.kamikaze_1996 said: i don't think doing inner monologues and telling the story from the head will work in this episode, they would need much more open scenes where no one is talking or doing anything to fit in the dialogue from the LN also this episode was pretty compact in itself already, there were barely any scenes where you could fit detailed inner monologues like the LN and if they tried cramming it in it would be an eyesore with non-stop talking. Agreed, this is about as good as it gets with this 25 episode format. The biggest constraint to adding more depth is simply "Time". There's not enough time to add all the atmosphere and nuances that are part and parcel of the first four novels. you dont understand, it can't be helped, they were given 25 episodes whether they liked it or not so they had to try and make it work they are adapting 4 volumes in total, while 4 volumes is a little too much 2 volumes and sidestories simply isn't enough content for 25 episodes, they might be able to do it if they add things such as fillers and drag it out but it seems like they chose the second option instead whether or not the boring fillerish dragged out anime would be better compared to this version is impossible to know without it existing you know the reason why they can't end at 3 volumes so i won't go into detail about that another thing is, is that adapting in chronological order 4 volumes gives climactic ends for both the cours and also gives a satisfying ending to the series even if the LN still carries on |
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kamikaze_1996 said: 5layer said: Vforvendetta said: Obviously, which is why we are talking hypothetically in the case where the inner dialogue IS handled correctly and DOES convey the thoughts of the character in a way that makes the events in the anime not appear as forced emotionless bullshit. Of course, there are ways to convey the feelings without the inner dialogue, but regardless, the anime failed to do even that because the director is an idiot. I never really said the reason this sucked was the lack of inner dialogue in the first place. It was just one way they could have went about improving this failure.I just want to point out the fact that if this episode was changed into inner monologues or story telling style, there's no way to guarantee it would be better than it is right now. I wish ufotable or kyoani adapted SAO instead, but there really is no chance that is going to happen. Jerrychiang said: Oh really? How is there no time? They CANNOT adapt the 9 novels in 24 episodes and they cannot end the story in 24 episodes regardless. Therefore, there is no excuse for why they are rushing this since they wont be finishing it whether they rush or not.kamikaze_1996 said: i don't think doing inner monologues and telling the story from the head will work in this episode, they would need much more open scenes where no one is talking or doing anything to fit in the dialogue from the LN also this episode was pretty compact in itself already, there were barely any scenes where you could fit detailed inner monologues like the LN and if they tried cramming it in it would be an eyesore with non-stop talking. Agreed, this is about as good as it gets with this 25 episode format. The biggest constraint to adding more depth is simply "Time". There's not enough time to add all the atmosphere and nuances that are part and parcel of the first four novels. you dont understand, it can't be helped, they were given 25 episodes whether they liked it or not so they had to try and make it work they are adapting 4 volumes in total, while 4 volumes is a little too much 2 volumes and sidestories simply isn't enough content for 25 episodes, they might be able to do it if they add things such as fillers and drag it out but it seems like they chose the second option instead whether or not the boring fillerish dragged out anime would be better compared to this version is impossible to know without it existing you know the reason why they can't end at 3 volumes so i won't go into detail about that another thing is, is that adapting in chronological order 4 volumes gives climactic ends for both the cours and also gives a satisfying ending to the series even if the LN still carries on And just to rehash: I believe the first two novels could have fit into a 25 episode format a'la Gungrave with excellent character development. However, it would have taken a little extra legwork. They were looking to make a sure-fire profit, rather than to take on risks necessary to make a masterpiece. Some people call this "corporatization". And from my point, it's perfectly understandable if they didn't want to risk it, and defaulted to an abbreviation of the rote material. I simply believe the risk was minimal given SAO's legacy and built-in fanbase, while the reward for making a masterpiece series (and the benefit of saving volumes 3 & 4 for yet another series and more revenue) would have easily been worth it. |
| I mean seriously: When you read the end of volume 1, could you resist picking up on volume 3 & 4? I'd bet plenty of people skipped volume 2 and went straight to volume 3. |
| ^ Glad I wasn't the only one who did that ... |
| ^ Me too Vforvendetta said: Don't remind me about Little Busters and JC Staff. It's depressing, lol. I also think that completing volumes 1-4 is still pretty unfinished considering there is so much more story to tell. And I gave ufotable and kyoani as just examples. There are other studios that are also capable, like Bones. I think people would be satisfied with the anime even if it is not finished. If it is finished and it sucks, sales will be poor. If it is unfinished and it sucks, sales will not be any different, I don't think. If it is unfinished and it is awesome, sales would be very good and they could easily pull off another season. Anyways, it's too late now.kamikaze_1996 said: I think the end of volume 1 would make for a great ending if they drag it out (and include all the vol 2 stories). Fate/Zero manages to have very little stuff happening every episode and is extremely dragged out, yet manages to be very good. SAO should have done the same. They did have the two options of whether to drag it out or to rush it, but rushing it is guaranteed to not be good while dragging it out has a chance.you dont understand, it can't be helped, they were given 25 episodes whether they liked it or not so they had to try and make it work they are adapting 4 volumes in total, while 4 volumes is a little too much 2 volumes and sidestories simply isn't enough content for 25 episodes, they might be able to do it if they add things such as fillers and drag it out but it seems like they chose the second option instead whether or not the boring fillerish dragged out anime would be better compared to this version is impossible to know without it existing you know the reason why they can't end at 3 volumes so i won't go into detail about that another thing is, is that adapting in chronological order 4 volumes gives climactic ends for both the cours and also gives a satisfying ending to the series even if the LN still carries on |
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| as cute as they are together i really have something against short pink haired girls. seriously. i naturally hated her the second she appeared. |
tezann_t said: Also, forgive me for going on about this, but I also want to point out that contrary to popular opinion, these side stories are introducing characters who will show up later (I don't think this spoils anything for anyone). At least I think the anime will be smart to have them show up at the right time. Otherwise they would have been introduced for nothing. For better or for worse, the series won't just have Asuna and Kirito. In my opinion that's a good thing, although I can certainly see why people are kind of "wtf" at how little screentime each of these characters get. Trust me when I say it's not a failure of the anime alone. The LN also kind of relegates them into non-important roles. Forgive me for bringing this up again, but I understand what you mean. Although I don't like the way the anime is putting these characters in their "future" roles, I still believe it was necessary. Pretty much every episode (aside from the first one) felt like a spam of fillers, it hit me even more for the fact that they cut out a lot of good parts from the LN (some of them are mentioned in ITT), maybe It was for the sake of the story later, or simply because it wasn't the best idea. but if I was in part of the production, I can relate why they did it. These aside, I'm still enjoying everything with a little of rage, but nothing so serious, I still like SAO, and now I'm finally getting the Main Story that I was waiting, we can just wait to see how the anime is going to put everything together. hnryirawan said: Its getting better and better. It didnt felt rushed much now. Now, who in here are still going to call it overrated? As much as I don't want to say this, it is overrated, unfortunately. Also, for people ITT saying this is a harem, please wake up, you don't need to read the LN to see where this is going. |
NiyawaAug 20, 2012 6:23 AM
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5layer said: ^ Me too Vforvendetta said: Don't remind me about Little Busters and JC Staff. It's depressing, lol. I also think that completing volumes 1-4 is still pretty unfinished considering there is so much more story to tell. And I gave ufotable and kyoani as just examples. There are other studios that are also capable, like Bones. I think people would be satisfied with the anime even if it is not finished. If it is finished and it sucks, sales will be poor. If it is unfinished and it sucks, sales will not be any different, I don't think. If it is unfinished and it is awesome, sales would be very good and they could easily pull off another season. Anyways, it's too late now.kamikaze_1996 said: I think the end of volume 1 would make for a great ending if they drag it out (and include all the vol 2 stories). Fate/Zero manages to have very little stuff happening every episode and is extremely dragged out, yet manages to be very good. SAO should have done the same. They did have the two options of whether to drag it out or to rush it, but rushing it is guaranteed to not be good while dragging it out has a chance.you dont understand, it can't be helped, they were given 25 episodes whether they liked it or not so they had to try and make it work they are adapting 4 volumes in total, while 4 volumes is a little too much 2 volumes and sidestories simply isn't enough content for 25 episodes, they might be able to do it if they add things such as fillers and drag it out but it seems like they chose the second option instead whether or not the boring fillerish dragged out anime would be better compared to this version is impossible to know without it existing you know the reason why they can't end at 3 volumes so i won't go into detail about that another thing is, is that adapting in chronological order 4 volumes gives climactic ends for both the cours and also gives a satisfying ending to the series even if the LN still carries on i know that and like i just said we have no idea of knowing if it would turn out good if they dragged it out also its like your saying this rushed version has already failed completely when it hasn't even finished, even though we LN readers are disappointed many people still find it good, the comments and the polls is proof of that also can i remind you that its only been 7 episodes and the main story starts next week like ive been saying all this time, we can only judge whether its a hit or a miss on how they deal with the main story |
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kamikaze_1996 said: like ive been saying all this time, we can only judge whether its a hit or a miss on how they deal with the main story I believe you're a bit wrong there, as much as I like SAO, this already became somewhat a miss a long time ago IMHO, is not that I don't understand your thinking, but while these 6 episodes were probably necessary, there's so much gaps open in the story, it's just hard for me see this as something beyond "enjoyable", tastes aside, the ending may or not make up, hopefully they can do something more big of this. |
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| i was talking about the anime as a whole, the prior sidestories are done so now its just the main story left you can't just judge whether its a hit or a miss just from the last 6 episodes, it can pull off a come back the best example i can give you is steins gate, although the first half was boring it hit home in the second don't judge an anime without at least watching half of it and SAO hasn't even reached the halfway point yet |
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| Decent episode, the side stories are finally done. |
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kamikaze_1996 said: i was talking about the anime as a whole, the prior sidestories are done so now its just the main story left you can't just judge whether its a hit or a miss just from the last 6 episodes, it can pull off a come back the best example i can give you is steins gate, although the first half was boring it hit home in the second don't judge an anime without at least watching half of it and SAO hasn't even reached the halfway point yet You know: I was going to try to watch Steins Gate before the summer recess was up. Is there any chance you could tell me at what point it starts to get good? Just to save me unnecessary angst? |
Jerrychiang said: kamikaze_1996 said: i was talking about the anime as a whole, the prior sidestories are done so now its just the main story left you can't just judge whether its a hit or a miss just from the last 6 episodes, it can pull off a come back the best example i can give you is steins gate, although the first half was boring it hit home in the second don't judge an anime without at least watching half of it and SAO hasn't even reached the halfway point yet You know: I was going to try to watch Steins Gate before the summer recess was up. Is there any chance you could tell me at what point it starts to get good? Just to save me unnecessary angst? it got interesting after episode 6 it got epic after episode 12 it became godly after episode 18 nuff said |
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