My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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GrandTemplar said: It was his plan.CutePriest said: He thinks nobody cares about him , hence he plays to role of bad guy to fix things(Sagami case- Here he does this for Yukino's sake and nobody sees his method except for Hayama). As no matter what he does nobody will notice him. He thinks that it doesn't affect him that's not the case.In the Tobe and Ebina case scene he sacrifices himself again for protecting superficial relationships(Everyone witnesses him methods, hence Yukino is mad and Yui is sad. Hayama a previous witness apologized) In the election case he was gonna play the bad guy again but Yukino stops him. His solution here didn't result in him being the bad guy but still the method didn't change(he was the one who made the fake accounts). I think Zaimokuza who made the fake accounts. The one who takes the blame if it leaked is 8man. |
| Wow, this was such a good episode! And man, it took me so long to realize what a jerk Hayama is. Putting on such a cool face like that. Yukino clearly has some feelings for Hachiman, which is what I think Hayama tried to point out to Hachiman at the party. Anyway, three episodes left. I hope we see something bigger than this. |
 "No matter how far you travel, you can never get away from yourself." -- Murakami Haruki |
Krizalid- said: Damn. Not a LN reader; but I think Volume 10 deserved more episodes compared to lame-as-hell Volume 9. How can you compare if you haven't read them? |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| Things seem to be settling down, this almost looked like the last episode. Makes me wonder what will happen in the two upcoming episodes. |
| so i take it hachiman is pretty much going to get laid by the end of this season? |
| Could someone explain Hayama's motivation to me? It seems lost to me. Why does he says he feel inferior to Hachiman? Is Hayama's a fake? |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
GrandTemplar said: 8man is accepted by people(Yukino , Yui , iroha , sensei and all his friends.) for who he is. People look up to and admire Hayama for being their ideal Hayama (the one who always wins, the best at everything etc.) than what Hayama want's himself to be. Hachiman changes people around him while Hayama can't as he is unable to be himself in front of others. He has to be their Hayama Hayato. Also Hachiman was able to figure out his facade. That's why Hayama feels inferior to Hachiman. peeyaj read the LN for more details.peeyaj said: Could someone explain Hayama's motivation to me? It seems lost to me. Why does he says he feel inferior to Hachiman? Is Hayama's a fake? |
| So pretty much the LN crowd is saying this is a pretty shitty adaptation. Not even even reading the LN, I can say the series felt rushed and would have gained a lot of fluidity and detailed character actions if it was 22 episodes. |
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Eylandos said: It's not a shitty adaptation. Please don't compare us to the VN purists of fate subform(well i have read the Fate VN as well and believe me the anime is not that bad it's not great like F/Z but not shitty either). Zoku is a good adaptation but for more character details and scenes which were skipped in the anime and great monologues of 8man people should read the LN. SNAFU's ultimate greatness and Watari's narration skills can be witnessed in the LN.So pretty much the LN crowd is saying this is a pretty shitty adaptation. Not even even reading the LN, I can say the series felt rushed and would have gained a lot of fluidity and detailed character actions if it was 22 episodes. |
snarlmane said: Because it's not unique! Who cares what the story has been building up to or that the entire series is pretty much about Hachiman and Yukino! Hachiman needs to end up with Saika, because that would be good writing! i dont think people could handle such good writing my body is ready for the Yui tears |
CutePriest said: I don't care if he badmouths Yukino, it's basically implied they will end up together. Imo none of the other girls were given a fair chance. It's like giving the fastest runner a lap on their opponent and there only running 2 laps. Once again It's my opinion and I could be wrong, but that ruins this series. It sucks but I would like for them to go through their last year together and then go separate ways, show Hikki with a new outlook on life having learned from his experiences with the girls.Yondy375 said: 8man badmouths about Yukino a lot a well (LN monologues). I think he knows Yui's feelings e.g. he stopped her from confessing on their so-called date. Also he sometimes find her actions annoying e.g. fixing his hair, holding his shoulder with that toy etc. He does care about her but doesn't look at her in a romantic way. Now him thinking about Yukino , she is not an open book like Yui so he always thinks about her reasons(Just before their festival date he came to know that the car that hit him was Yukino's) not to say his image of Yukino was shattered(Yukinoshita never lies or hides anything). It's not a drama like White Album 2(a very good anime though).I read the LN, I genuinely like her character, yet i'm entitled to my opinion. Her character development is the slightest between herself, Iroha, Miura, Hayama, and Hikki. Sure it's easiest to pair her with Hikigaya, because she was the "most parallel". Yet it seems dumb imo to not have a contest. It's like basically without stating it in a subtle way, he bluntly pounds you with Hikki's "positive" feelings for Yukino. In contrast his personal monologue for Yuigahama, is always her being hurt/sad and him being remorseful. Even when they didn't talk he mostly thought about Yukino's feelings only when they were together did he really thing about Yuigahama. And he automatically ruled out Iroha without truly registering that it could happen. |
| Dr. Sheldon Cooper " It is no way to make new humans. People coming out of people. Some kind of dirty magic show. |
Yondy375 said: I don't care if he badmouths Yukino, it's basically implied they will end up together. Imo none of the other girls were given a fair chance. It's like giving the fastest runner a lap on their opponent and there only running 2 laps. Once again It's my opinion and I could be wrong, but that ruins this series. It sucks but I would like for them to go through their last year together and then go separate ways, show Hikki with a new outlook on life having learned from his experiences with the girls. Did you seriously just make a race analogy for relationships? What do you think this is?  |
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| They cut 8man's thinking about yukino and hayato past together, it is an important monologue since it shows how possessive hachiman is(already showed with his little sister but was downplayed in anime). He becomes nauseated at the idea of past romantic feelings between them, Hayato obviously did not choose her (according to her own sister in S1 "It would mean Yukino will not be chosen AGAIN") he chose to avoid interfering with the bullying and possible arranged marriage between him and Yukino or Haruno, they cut the silver ring moment in which 8man notices the silver ring on her hand and possibly interprets this as the answer to his question/monologue about the arranged marriage possibility (he is the narrator so he may omit or lie). Probably it was just kids' "love" no real romantic feelings between them but it will probably still play out a lot in 8man's behaviour since he is possessive. As for haruno I don't see her as confusing as most see, she is clearly stressed by being force to be "perfect" and "fulfill her role as eldest daughter" she toys with people to relieve her stress and she is also angry with yukino whenever she relies on someone or tries to mimick her because she is fed up with being relied on and hates the current state of affairs which involve a lot of burden on her. Still, she loves her sister but is very worn out, possibly it becomes the drive for her moving in a few days and stay at yukino's apartment to temporarily flee and "analyse" what yukino means to her and her to yukino. Lastly as for yukino's remaining shadow it's obviously the remaining problem with her family(the ruthless ruler and manipulator that is her mother lol) and herself, her lack of confidence(and somewhat escaping) in being able to accept herself as showed in S1E1 and recently in S2 she accepts herself partially only, still did not find within herself what she seeks after all. As for yukino's mother she is a great manipulator, she manipulates circunstance and emotions of other people very efficiently and sacrifices them to meet her goals and sense of right, but no more info than that was given at this time. EDIT: Possibly Haruno hopes for hachiman to intervene somehow (giving suggestions perhaps?), after all she showed the dirty laundry of the family to him lol. |
"Boredom is like poison." |
Fawkey said: "Every relationship can be traced back to a race" SuzukaYondy375 said: I don't care if he badmouths Yukino, it's basically implied they will end up together. Imo none of the other girls were given a fair chance. It's like giving the fastest runner a lap on their opponent and there only running 2 laps. Once again It's my opinion and I could be wrong, but that ruins this series. It sucks but I would like for them to go through their last year together and then go separate ways, show Hikki with a new outlook on life having learned from his experiences with the girls. Did you seriously just make a race analogy for relationships? What do you think this is? |
| Dr. Sheldon Cooper " It is no way to make new humans. People coming out of people. Some kind of dirty magic show. |
Yondy375 said: Irohan and mainly Yui had a lot of chances , heck they interact with him a lot more compared to Yukino. Also Yui and iroha mad a lot of advances on him. I would say the other girls also had fare chances given to them.Also relationship is not a race it's like saying every guy has to choose the winner of his harem which is certainly not the case.CutePriest said: I don't care if he badmouths Yukino, it's basically implied they will end up together. Imo none of the other girls were given a fair chance. It's like giving the fastest runner a lap on their opponent and there only running 2 laps. Once again It's my opinion and I could be wrong, but that ruins this series. It sucks but I would like for them to go through their last year together and then go separate ways, show Hikki with a new outlook on life having learned from his experiences with the girls.8man badmouths about Yukino a lot a well (LN monologues). I think he knows Yui's feelings e.g. he stopped her from confessing on their so-called date. Also he sometimes find her actions annoying e.g. fixing his hair, holding his shoulder with that toy etc. He does care about her but doesn't look at her in a romantic way. Now him thinking about Yukino , she is not an open book like Yui so he always thinks about her reasons(Just before their festival date he came to know that the car that hit him was Yukino's) not to say his image of Yukino was shattered(Yukinoshita never lies or hides anything). It's not a drama like White Album 2(a very good anime though). |
GrandTemplar said: What does BTFO stands for ?CutePriest said: Irohan and mainly Yui had a lot of chances , heck they interact with him a lot more compared to Yukino. Also Yui and iroha mad a lot of advances on him. I would say the other girls also had fare chances given to them.Also relationship is not a race it's like saying every guy has to choose the winner of his harem which is certainly not the case. Yui and Iroha will likely get BTFO. Raise your white flag and jump to another ship. |
| No!!!! The end is coming soon, and it's really getting juicy now too. I love the want of everything not to change but as we all know change happens whether we want it or notice it. |
CutePriest said: Yondy375 said: Irohan and mainly Yui had a lot of chances , heck they interact with him a lot more compared to Yukino. Also Yui and iroha mad a lot of advances on him. I would say the other girls also had fare chances given to them.Also relationship is not a race it's like saying every guy has to choose the winner of his harem which is certainly not the case.I don't care if he badmouths Yukino, it's basically implied they will end up together. Imo none of the other girls were given a fair chance. It's like giving the fastest runner a lap on their opponent and there only running 2 laps. Once again It's my opinion and I could be wrong, but that ruins this series. It sucks but I would like for them to go through their last year together and then go separate ways, show Hikki with a new outlook on life having learned from his experiences with the girls. I'm talking about his first person monologue in the LN. The vivid imagery, and depth of feelings he displays for Yukino from the Cultural Festival onwards. Read it and see how his opinion/feelings differ from Yukino to the other girls. |
| Dr. Sheldon Cooper " It is no way to make new humans. People coming out of people. Some kind of dirty magic show. |
Yondy375 said: I know that i have read all the volumes. Just what type of contest do you want to happen here, i'm just curious.CutePriest said: Irohan and mainly Yui had a lot of chances , heck they interact with him a lot more compared to Yukino. Also Yui and iroha mad a lot of advances on him. I would say the other girls also had fare chances given to them.Also relationship is not a race it's like saying every guy has to choose the winner of his harem which is certainly not the case. I'm talking about his first person monologue in the LN. The vivid imagery, and depth of feelings he displays for Yukino from the Cultural Festival onwards. Read it and see how his opinion/feelings differ from Yukino to the other girls. |
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| The world shall know the truth soon. |
RyuMain said: coffeetenshi said: Hachiman does not see most of her "insults" as insults though, but interprets them as her inability to dress her words. Her absence leaves a lot of room for imagination for Hachiman and the audience, which in itself is not necessarily a bad thing. ahaha... ohh well i guess we'll just have to wait then. never really liked her much due to the fact that if this girl was in real life, she would get b-slapped in the face from insulting someone that much cuz i knew someone like 8man and Yuki and their friendship didn't end well though sadly.. partly my fault for meeting those two together also :P beauty and intelligence has it's limits when egos are over the roof~ If i met someone like yukinon irl i would probably be pretty pissed too.but in this anime she puts on this front to cover up her real self because of her past experiences.you cant really get that pissed after understanding that |
PrevE said: she accepted her flaws . She admits that she pretended to understand everything while that was not tue case. Asks others for help. Tries to be open with others.Accepts others.If your are sayin she is still an egocentric person after all this dvelopment then its nothing but your personal hate for her.RyuMain said: ahaha... ohh well i guess we'll just have to wait then. never really liked her much due to the fact that if this girl was in real life, she would get b-slapped in the face from insulting someone that much cuz i knew someone like 8man and Yuki and their friendship didn't end well though sadly.. partly my fault for meeting those two together also :P beauty and intelligence has it's limits when egos are over the roof~ If i met someone like yukinon irl i would probably be pretty pissed too.but in this anime she puts on this front to cover up her real self because of her past experiences.you cant really get that pissed after understanding that |
| I just re-watched the episode and noticed that there was a circular window to the door of infirmary. It really seems like Yui actually saw the whole thing. Her making a confession in last episode and in volume 11 looks quiet confirmed now. |
CutePriest said: I just re-watched the episode and noticed that there was a circular window to the door of infirmary. It really seems like Yui actually saw the whole thing. Her making a confession in last episode and in volume 11 looks quiet confirmed now. meaning its going to be impossible for an open ending and they would have to settle for an anime original ending?either that or a cliffhanger if they plan for an s3 |
PrevE said: CutePriest said: I just re-watched the episode and noticed that there was a circular window to the door of infirmary. It really seems like Yui actually saw the whole thing. Her making a confession in last episode and in volume 11 looks quiet confirmed now. meaning its going to be impossible for an open ending and they would have to settle for an anime original ending?either that or a cliffhanger if they plan for an s3 Cliffhanger ending for advertising volume 11. Although an anime original ending is also a possibility |
CutePriest said: PrevE said: meaning its going to be impossible for an open ending and they would have to settle for an anime original ending?either that or a cliffhanger if they plan for an s3 Cliffhanger ending for advertising volume 11. Although an anime original ending is also a possibility So either way an s3 is not happening huh,maybe ovas only? |
PrevE said: A movie is the best we can hope for.CutePriest said: Cliffhanger ending for advertising volume 11. Although an anime original ending is also a possibility So either way an s3 is not happening huh,maybe ovas only? |
CutePriest said: PrevE said: A movie is the best we can hope for.So either way an s3 is not happening huh,maybe ovas only? Thats pretty sad man i really really want a s3 |
| Yukinon HNNG!!! PrevE said: Thats pretty sad man i really really want a s3 +1 highpriest2500 said: As each episode passes, I'm constantly being reminded by how awesome the chemistry between our 3 main characters. Side characters have just been equally great in developing the overall atmosphere of this show. Season 3! Season 3! Season 3! |
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it was painful for me to watch this episode since it reminded me of how i messed up when i didn't take my future plans seriously which resulted in my life turning to shit, the only thing that lifted my chin up was Isshiki's attempt to seduce Hachiman well it worked anyway. by the way i never thought Hachiman was so spineless, i was like: DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!!  |
CutePriest said: PrevE said: she accepted her flaws . She admits that she pretended to understand everything while that was not tue case. Asks others for help. Tries to be open with others.Accepts others.If your are sayin she is still an egocentric person after all this dvelopment then its nothing but your personal hate for her.If i met someone like yukinon irl i would probably be pretty pissed too.but in this anime she puts on this front to cover up her real self because of her past experiences.you cant really get that pissed after understanding that She hasn't accepted anyone outside of their weird circle of her, Yui, Hikki and Iroha. She is OK with Miura/Hayato group, but is nowhere near accepting of them. Still hates her family, someone wrongs you, YOU tell them. She is allowed to leave alone in a lavish apartment because of the people she hates. There are kids who have been, molested, abused, so on and so forth and still love their parents. I don't accept people playing the victim, who DO NOTHING to change their circumstances. Can you say that Yukino's back story justifies her actions? Does growing up a certain way define how you get to act? She ALWAYS asks for help that's Haruno's problem with her. She just tried to avoid her family gathering/birthday. She got better as a girl for girlfriend material, but not yet as a person or maybe we've been reading/watching something different. |
| Dr. Sheldon Cooper " It is no way to make new humans. People coming out of people. Some kind of dirty magic show. |
shanimebib said: esket said: I'm hoping the story doesn't end with the cliche "first girl wins". You mean you want Hachiman to end up like this guy? WARNING: Click the link and you spoil yourself without having read one of the best coming of age stories. Dang the story started of a little weird and awkward but the development.... the surprises.... pure epicness! Hiki's got nothin on Kurosawa! |
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Yondy375 said: CutePriest said: she accepted her flaws . She admits that she pretended to understand everything while that was not tue case. Asks others for help. Tries to be open with others.Accepts others.If your are sayin she is still an egocentric person after all this dvelopment then its nothing but your personal hate for her. She hasn't accepted anyone outside of their weird circle of her, Yui, Hikki and Iroha. She is OK with Miura/Hayato group, but is nowhere near accepting of them. Still hates her family, someone wrongs you, YOU tell them. She is allowed to leave alone in a lavish apartment because of the people she hates. There are kids who have been, molested, abused, so on and so forth and still love their parents. I don't accept people playing the victim, who DO NOTHING to change their circumstances. Can you say that Yukino's back story justifies her actions? Does growing up a certain way define how you get to act? She ALWAYS asks for help that's Haruno's problem with her. She just tried to avoid her family gathering/birthday. She got better as a girl for girlfriend material, but not yet as a person or maybe we've been reading/watching something different. Actually yes I can say that growing up a certain does in fact change the way you act around people.Cant really explain how but for me in my case I got colder and more stoic.Source?Myself.I dont want to bitch about my life on the internet but I did went through one of these 'molested,abused'. |
Yondy375 said: When we are growing up we also depend upon others especially our friends and parents. Everyone depend upon someone in their life. Are you trying to say that the moment we are born we become independent and doesn't need anyone's help? After looking at her behavior with Haruno and her family along with some of her conversations with 8man it's clear that her family always neglected her and always thought of her as a substitute. You say it like Haruno always helped her sister when she needed it. During the cultural festival Haruno even says to her she has asked her for help for the first time. Rather it's obvious that no one gave her a helping hand in the past when she needed it. Also no matter how much she hates her family she can't go against her parents after all they raised her and provided her everything that was necessary. She can't throw all that away either, also if if she recklessly does something against her family it will affect the family image as well. She is in a tough spot. We all sometimes run away when we don't know what to do(it's bad but we all do that).None the less she is still trying to figure out some way to solve this mess. It's easy to judge others when you are an outsider and haven't experienced something like that. It seem you liked all the kids in your class. I didn't,there will always be people in your class that you don't like and can't get along with. Do you still have to accept them? It depends on each individual. If you are someone like Hayama you will accept them , if you are someone like Yukino or even Hachiman you won't. Growing up a certain way doesn't define how you act- what about the brainwashed child solders who were a victim of diamond smuggling in africa back in 90's. All the points i stated above states that she is also changing as a person. If you don't see that then it's because of your personal hate for her.CutePriest said: she accepted her flaws . She admits that she pretended to understand everything while that was not tue case. Asks others for help. Tries to be open with others.Accepts others.If your are sayin she is still an egocentric person after all this dvelopment then its nothing but your personal hate for her. She hasn't accepted anyone outside of their weird circle of her, Yui, Hikki and Iroha. She is OK with Miura/Hayato group, but is nowhere near accepting of them. Still hates her family, someone wrongs you, YOU tell them. She is allowed to leave alone in a lavish apartment because of the people she hates. There are kids who have been, molested, abused, so on and so forth and still love their parents. I don't accept people playing the victim, who DO NOTHING to change their circumstances. Can you say that Yukino's back story justifies her actions? Does growing up a certain way define how you get to act? She ALWAYS asks for help that's Haruno's problem with her. She just tried to avoid her family gathering/birthday. She got better as a girl for girlfriend material, but not yet as a person or maybe we've been reading/watching something different. |
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