Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica Episode 3 Discussion

Yumekichi11 said:
Not sure about that one friend but I do know that by wishing for someone in Faust, it ended up in only trickery and elimination of that person's dear ones such as Gretchen's brother and mother.

I think that the devil does not like you wishing for others but yourself because that is a vice of being selfish. Devils love anything negative including death but Kyubey did not show that part of him yet. Being emotionless just shows us that either a)he has seen it too many times or b)he loves it so much he contains all the pleasure within him never to reveal to anyone except to his own self for his own pleasure. That's why make something like being rich as a wish and it shall be granted but make it to heal someone and it's only a temporary thing that will fade away eventually.

pcube19622 said:
It actually is more connected to Faust legend than you think, let me explain. You stated that Madoka and Sayaka are too innocent and pure, and I assume you have the conclusion of that they cannot be Faust. However in Faust, Faust and the devil are not the only characters in the story. As how I see it, Madoka plays the role of Gretchen, the most purest and innocent girl that was deceived by Faust using the Devil's power and have her life ruined as a result.

Doesn't that sound familiar? Even though we are not sure what is going to happen, but I believe alot of us have the feeling that if Madoka becomes a Mahou Shoujo, it's won't be as simple and happy like the other shows. And taking hints from the ending song, how Madoka started running into darkest and the Devil's eye after she transformed into a Mahou Shoujo. We can see the roles play out like this:

Mami assumes the role of Faust who makes the contract with Kyubey (devil) and becomes a Mahou Shoujo. Because in Faust, the contract that Faust has with the devil granted him knowledge and MAGICAL POWER. And in the series how Mami is trying to make Madoka into a Mahou Shoujo is similar to Faust seducing Gretchen, even though we see Kyubey eagerly trying to persuade Madoka of becoming a Mahou Shoujo, but Mami however never once said DON"T DO IT MADOKA', she merely told her to think about her wish carefully. And taking hints from all the signs that we have seen so far, having Madoka making a contract with Kyubey is definitely not going to be all sugar and flower. Much like Gretchen, she could even have her life ruined like how Homura stated in the first episode "If you treasure your current life, don't try to change it or else you might lose them all" or something along that line.

Conclusion Kyubey is still evil ----> /(OwO)

xelloss said:
As the saying goes "Careful what you wish for"

We do not how devilish Kyubey could possibly be with the wishes. One could wish to stay alive like Mami, and yet have that wish turn on its head later...

GarLogan78 said:


I am betting on Kyubey twisting the words of their wishes to the worst possible scenario or something.

gingabishounen said:
Only one thing to say........UNLIMITED "GUN" WORKS

Gogetters said:
This^
"I wish Mami would still be alive" Done, but now she will try to kill you.
"I wish i can protect people" Done, but they will die soon after.

Something like that, right?

Neogen said:
I just want to ask. I know everyone is creeped out that Kyubey was still smiling but..... can Kyubey stop smiling? I don't remember Kyubey every making an expression besides a small. Kyubey doesn't talk either. Couldn't it be possible that Kyubey just can't control it's mouth?

sidewaysviews said:
I don't know about the rest of ya all, but I feel like Kyubey did this, made it happen, lke told the witch where to plant itself. Either to kill Mami and get Madoka to contract, or just force the two girls to contract. I'd be less suspisous of the animal if it wasn't invisable to everyone but the magic girls.

Gangler said:
If you don't know about the rest of us you clearly haven't read the seventeen pages of "Kyuubey is evil! He Made This Happen!!!" leading up to your comment. Can't blame you lol.

It occurs to me that by your reasoning The Great Gazoo is a pretty suspicious character too. Shouldn't surprise me that when "The dark abyss" tackles a children's genre, it has sinister implications for my childhood memories...

Hoppy said:

The Great Gazoo was forgiving though, Kyubey means business, is very unforgiving, and I think he enjoys Mahou Shoujo getting killed. I wouldn't think as bad of him if he at least tried to comfort Madoka (remember she seen her friend get her head chomped off, that'll give anyone PTSD).

eizeral said:
Wow, aside from the fact that I really hate that Madoka STILL has not become a mahou shoujo, I can't believe they would end the episode that way! Talk about a MAJOR cliffhanger! I was so surprised Mami died, but I'm not going to grieve for her just yet. I'm sure Madoka will wish to bring her back safe and sound because that way her wish actually means something, you know? Anyways, I don't know how I'm going to wait a whole week for the next episode, but I guess I'm gonna have to! Sooo dying for the next episode.

xelloss said:
To that effect. I figure if she is revived, she may come back as a fallen witch and try to kill people, leading to another tragedy.

DecemberCapi said:
Random question, i should know this and its bothering me to no end, does anyone know the name of the classical piece they are listening to in the hospital at the very beginning?